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I had a good laugh with that one. 

And by the way, I saw your video. Did you realise that Jason, as any other human, can make a mistake?

but I recommend to just watch from miinute 1:55

LOL yeah that's just embarrassingly dreadful.

thanks for the shock/laugh  :eek:

ps. it's no reason to smite me, though, imo. i don't smite anyone for saying jason is a great drummer.

the guy come to curefans.com, post his link (to a video where he talks bad about Jason -ok, his right to free speech, but why so much hate?-) then dissapear. I don't know, I don't think we should celebrate such kind of acts.

hence, I have the right to use the karma feature if I don't agree with something like this

Quote from: japanesebaby on March 18, 2009, 21:52:15

ps. it's no reason to smite me, though, imo. i don't smite anyone for saying jason is a great drummer.

the guy come to curefans.com, post his link (to a video where he talks bad about Jason -ok, his right to free speech, but why so much hate?-) then dissapear. I don't know, I don't think we should celebrate such kind of acts.

hence, I have the right to use the karma feature if I don't agree with something like this

yeah but in that case smite him, not me.

why so much hate? of course 'm not talking for the guy who started the thread, but i'm not sure you use the right word when you say "hate". i'd say it's a question about a musician's self-respect: any musician who looks at those screw ups starts feeling frustrated. i'd be afraid to play with a drummer like that. it's simply not on a professional level, the amount of problems in jason's playing.
it's not some kind of hate towards his personality (people always, always confuse these things when this topic comes up). it's a question of his professional abilities to play like a pro musician. and after all, don't you always say how the cure is the best band in the planet? so wouldn't they deserve the best drummer in the planet too? and surely jason isn't that one. or a different kind of example: don't you always say how you hate the sequencer on 'push'? so someone could ask "why so much hate?" - what would you answer?

it's not a personality thing, something against the guy called jason cooper. it's about his playing. so let's not confuse the two.
like said above by fiction, it's poor drumming. that's the subject here.

and after all, don't you always say how the cure is the best band in the planet? so wouldn't they deserve the best drummer in the planet too? and surely jason isn't that one. or a different kind of example: don't you always say how you hate the sequencer on 'push'? so someone could ask "why so much hate?" - what would you answer?

My answer is that The Cure is Robert's band, not mine. I am just a simple fan. The Cure is his creation, his music. If he wants to keep Jason and add sequencers to "Push", then is his decision. We all fans can give opinions (politely, of course) but we can't order to Robert what to do.

In the end I will always go to see The Cure, Jason, Boris, of even if they play a tape instead of drums. They're my favourite band, so I just follow them. Period.

i think the charlotte '08 footage was quite educational.  

Jason is not the best Cure drummer, we all agree on that, but that does not give us the right to make fun or ridiculaze him.

again, ridiculing would be to treat his person/personality in a foul way. every performing artists puts himself/herself into the spotlight (voluntarily! and must be ready to receive criticism towards his art. even harsh one. it's not the same as ridiculing the person behind it. and besides, nobody has told jason to get in the spotlight, to become a public figure. he's chosen that himself. so his doings may be publicly mocked, if anyone sees reason enough. it would be different if you invaded some private persons' house or home and dragged him/her into spotlight first. celebrities can't complain, they've chosen their way of life themselves. and therefore we don't need to protect or patronize them either, syaing "oh dear, think about his feelings".
and do you see anything like "look how stupid jason looks" in that video? no you don't. so every criticism in it is aimed at his art. there's the big difference.

perhaps you need to become a musician first yourself, to experience and understand it first hand.