Started by Oneiroman, May 10, 2021, 14:46:23
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Quote from: Oneiroman on May 18, 2021, 23:40:13He might be ignorant about that particular Irishman, but I wasn't, and there are many other sources online and elsewhere that discuss his political views
Quote from: Oneiroman on May 18, 2021, 23:40:13to see that Ulrich equates being a hashish smoking dandy to being a fascist.
QuoteWhen we slot figures neatly onto the plinths of our national pantheon, the heroic status we make often require some scrubbing before they are fit to be viewed by the public. Figures of national renown are scrubbed clean of their more radical thoughts- Martin Luther King Jr's avowed leftism for example- in order to turn them into saints with simple stories who we can praise without wrestling with complex ideological questions.Fascism today is an ideological bogeyman, a word that conjures images of some of the most brutal regimes to ever wield an iron fist over countries and peoples; images of purges and secret police and genocide. Yeats lived at the dawn of the 20th century when Fascism had none of the grime and bloodstains that it wears now and when it seemed to many like an ascendant utopian ideology that would defend countries from the evils of modern decay and act as a bulwark against the spectre of communist regimes.Yeat's closest intellectual peers, modernists such as Ezra Pound and TS Eliot, were no strangers to fascist sympathising and Pound especially was well known for his extolling the virtues of Mussolini's fascist regime in Italy even up to the end of the second world war when the horrors of fascism had been laid bare for the world. For a young, romantic, nationalist like Yeats, Fascism with its talk of the "national spirit" and "national myths", would of course hold a great deal of appeal.
Quote from: Oneiroman on May 19, 2021, 23:12:11@SueC Can you explain to me the import of this personal message from Ulrich?:I would ask him but I don't seem to be able to get any sense from the man. And I don't like dealing with people who justify fascists as he did in his last post.
Quote from: Oneiroman on May 19, 2021, 23:12:11I would ask him but I don't seem to be able to get any sense from the man. And I don't like dealing with people who justify fascists as he did in his last post.
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