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Title: The noisiest songs you know!
Post by: SueC on May 07, 2020, 02:42:18
Dear all  :)

Just for fun, and so I can enjoy being totally shocked, why don't you post the noisiest songs you know?  You know, really crashing, ear-bleeding stuff, that may or may not be totally tasteless.

Of course, I know no such thing myself.   :angel   I have been in ascetic hibernation all my life and am now coming out for a little stroll.  :winking_tongue

Lots of love

Sue
Title: Re: The noisiest songs you know!
Post by: SueC on May 07, 2020, 02:52:07
Brett wants to play, but doesn't have an account because it's kind of not necessary because he has a scribe. :)  Here's his offering:


OMG.   :1f631:  :1f632:

He also says he once went to a gig by an outfit called Lux Mammoth, all of whose "instruments" were power tools.  He says they didn't have much of a sense of melody either.  :-D
Title: Re: The noisiest songs you know!
Post by: word_on_a_wing on May 07, 2020, 12:32:12
A good type of noise:
If I listen loud with eyes closed = overwhelm!!

(Note - it's tame until the half way mark then the distortion, the glitching: 🥴

Title: Re: The noisiest songs you know!
Post by: SueC on May 07, 2020, 14:35:34
I actually don't mind this one, @word_on_a_wing - I find that so much more listenable than Motörhead - and so does Brett, who has that Motörhead song in his collection because it's part of a movie soundtrack.

I've looked through my own collection and just don't have anything ear-shatteringly discordant in it.  The loudest thing I have is called Dumbing Down The World, probably about the same level as your NIN track, and I love this one, but I don't think it's an ear-bleeder.


The Cure interestingly, on 4:13 Dream, have a couple of contenders that get into ear-bleeding territory for me.  That's actually the newest album in my collection, so I didn't automatically think of it.


...the guitar intro is screechingly ear-bleeding, but the song's not that loud... however, there's another track on it I've just started listening to more closely, that's sounding to me sort of like a cross between hard rock and an Irish jig...


It's kind of growing on me in a strange way.  Initially it really repelled me - I just wanted to put my hands over my ears and run away...
Title: Re: The noisiest songs you know!
Post by: piggymirror on May 09, 2020, 06:17:18
The noisiest? Dunno, this could be one.

Title: Re: The noisiest songs you know!
Post by: SueC on May 09, 2020, 10:04:40
Mmmmhhh, that's certainly getting up there for loud, @piggymirror.  Do you enjoy that track?  ...interesting album title.  :angel  And, ahem, such tasteful cover art!  ;)

Brett was saying, "This is exactly the sort of thing teenagers play to annoy their parents.  So as a parent, what you do is say, 'Hey, that sounds great, can you rip that and put it on a CD for me?'"  Bwahahahaha.  :lol:
Title: Re: The noisiest songs you know!
Post by: piggymirror on May 10, 2020, 05:40:11
Quote from: SueC on May 09, 2020, 10:04:40Mmmmhhh, that's certainly getting up there for loud, @piggymirror.  Do you enjoy that track?

"Enjoy" is maybe not the word. "Like" is perhaps a better verb here. Maybe.

It's certainly not music that I can listen to everyday.

But I can see its quality.

After all, that's Steve Albini.

In fact, that one is not my favourite on that album.

Quote from: SueC on May 09, 2020, 10:04:40...interesting album title.

Dunno. If it's literal, it sounds odd.

Quote from: SueC on May 09, 2020, 10:04:40:angelAnd, ahem, such tasteful cover art!  ;)

Uses comic. Btw you've made me think that I want to visit two museums about comics, the one at Angoulême, and the one in Brussels. I think there's another one somewhere in southern Belgium too, can't remember the city - Namur, Mons or Liège, one of the three I think.

Quote from: SueC on May 09, 2020, 10:04:40Brett was saying, "This is exactly the sort of thing teenagers play to annoy their parents.  So as a parent, what you do is say, 'Hey, that sounds great, can you rip that and put it on a CD for me?'"  Bwahahahaha.  :lol:

It contains a nice cover version of Kraftwerk's The Model - noisy, of course.

Btw, I wonder what came first, Big Black's The Model, or Dinosaur Jr's Just Like Heaven...
I like both, although perhaps I prefer Steve Albini's to J Mascis's.

God, it's been long since I don't listen to Dinosaur Jr.
Title: Re: The noisiest songs you know!
Post by: Matti on May 10, 2020, 15:40:05
Noisy... OK, let me throw in just a few more ideas:


Aphex Twin - Come to Daddy


Refused - The New Noise


Mogwai - My Father My King

@SueC: interesting that you mention The Cure here. This thread actually triggered me to have a go at the 2004 album again, there's actually a lot of noise as well.
Title: Re: The noisiest songs you know!
Post by: dsanchez on May 10, 2020, 21:02:08
If it's about noise I can't think in other but one of my favorite bands, MBV:


original version

Title: Re: The noisiest songs you know!
Post by: chemicaloverload on May 10, 2020, 21:28:09
<3 the whole noisy album- sometimes you need a bit of Slipknot in your life.
Title: Re: The noisiest songs you know!
Post by: chemicaloverload on May 10, 2020, 21:45:35
and I left the whole album on....you are wrong, fucked, and overrated, I think I'm gonna be sick and it's your fault...this is the end of everything, you are the end of everything.

Ahhhh... I miss being 14 :)

Title: Re: The noisiest songs you know!
Post by: Ulrich on May 11, 2020, 11:14:34
This does come to mind...
Title: Re: The noisiest songs you know!
Post by: SueC on May 11, 2020, 14:00:27
Thanks everyone for posting!   :cool

Oooh, my ears!  :-D

Just thinking:  Personally, I am more likely to listen to the loudest things in my own collection (which aren't terribly loud, they're just "nicely loud"  :yum:) if I am angry about something, or if I'm trying to gather the energy to do one more round of chores.  What's that like for you all - what sorts of moods or situations will make you more likely to listen to the loudest things you've got?

Unusual situations can drive one to unusual things... for instance, I'm not a fan of AC/DC, they're too screamy and grating for me, but there was one time in my life... I was travelling and had gotten sucked into doing a term at what turned out to be an evangelical school - when I asked them that at the interview they used the euphemism "non-denominational" - I don't think they'd have gotten a proper science teacher otherwise.  I was adamant they be honest with me because I didn't want to teach at a place where they think Darwin is the devil, blah blah blah, or who think creationism is "scientific" and a credible alternative for presenting in a science classroom.  Anyway, they were very flexible with the truth at the interview - and I ended up having a lot of community pushback for teaching the actual evolutionary biology curriculum we were required to teach by the state, while some of my happy-clappy colleagues threw that away and taught young-earth creationism...  :1f635:   (I hasten to add that this was never an issue at any of the Catholic schools in which I worked - they stopped being Biblical literalists quite a while ago and have other hobbies.)

About six weeks into working at that school, I started coming home with the rabid desire to dance naked to AC/DC records.  And as I said, I don't even like AC/DC!

Exceptions do happen - and I thought this particular use of an AC/DC track in the snooty enclave of figure skating was fantastic:


@Matti, does Aphex Twin not like his own grandmother?  :1f631:
Title: Re: The noisiest songs you know!
Post by: Matti on May 11, 2020, 20:14:07
Quote from: SueC on May 11, 2020, 14:00:27does Aphex Twin not like his own grandmother?
I really don't know! :)

Quote from: SueC on May 11, 2020, 14:00:27what sorts of moods or situations will make you more likely to listen to the loudest things you've got?
Well, it depends on the songs. Obviously, a lot of noisy music is associated with aggression, so I listen to noisy stuff when I'm angry or adopt this general "f**k all this" attitude (and no, fellow kids, this does not necessarily go away when you get older). And of course it's great to accompany your household duties.

But there's also a lot of noisy stuff I find really relaxing - I find MBV, Mogwai, and even a couple of Tool tracks very enjoyable just listening to with eyes closed.

Tool? Tool.

Title: Re: The noisiest songs you know!
Post by: SueC on May 12, 2020, 01:23:51
I really like the percussion on this track, @Matti, and I can hear that it's carefully constructed and that the people playing are actually rather musical (unlike some in this game).  The elements I don't are the usual elements - guitars when they start to sound like a swarm of attack bees, and that style of singing.  However, I was wondering if this happens to be a song about politicians, CEOs etc?

The cover art on this I think is magnificent.  Brett tells me that it's actually a set of peel-back transparencies (oooh, it is, he just showed me!) - he's rather partial to Tool himself and says hello. :)


Quote from: Matti on May 11, 2020, 20:14:07
Quote from: SueC on May 11, 2020, 14:00:27does Aphex Twin not like his own grandmother?
I really don't know! :)

Haha!  I was just thinking, watching that clip, "Hmmmmm, was his grandmother mean to him when he was a kid and is this his way of getting back at her?  Is that elderly woman in the clip sort of like an emotional voodoo doll?" :lol:


Quote from: Matti on May 11, 2020, 20:14:07Well, it depends on the songs. Obviously, a lot of noisy music is associated with aggression, so I listen to noisy stuff when I'm angry or adopt this general "f**k all this" attitude (and no, fellow kids, this does not necessarily go away when you get older).

And it would be a tragedy if it did, when you look at the unsavoury aspects of this world and all the things that in all honesty need to be addressed.  I think indifference and anaesthesia are dangerous.

 
By the way, I actually really enjoyed this track up to the halfway mark 10 minutes in, when the grating notes started:


Disclaimer:  I know absolutely nothing about this band.  Overnight, a what-if occurred to me.  Given the track is called My Father My King and it goes from vaguely ominous to lots of discordant notes after about the halfway point - could this be some kind of instrumental representation of the writer's evolving relationship with his father for the first 20 years of his life, with each minute representing a year?  People start seriously forming their own opinions about the wider world from about 10-12, and in some families are not exactly supported in this process, but become "the enemy" for daring to think differently to their "elders and betters"...

PS:  Love this film - people often underestimate young people...

Title: Re: The noisiest songs you know!
Post by: SueC on May 12, 2020, 02:41:46
Quote from: chemicaloverload on May 10, 2020, 21:45:35and I left the whole album on....you are wrong, fucked, and overrated, I think I'm gonna be sick and it's your fault...this is the end of everything, you are the end of everything.

Ahhhh... I miss being 14 :)


I have a theory about people:

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You see?  It's all still there, inside of you.  The infant is that tiny bubble right at the centre, then you've got age one, age two, age three etc... and age 14, age 18, age 25, you name it.  They're all still part of you, and you can access each and every one of them if you go looking.

And each year you add on another layer, until you become this wise old Ent!

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PS:  When I grow up, I'm going to be an Entomologist!   :beaming-face  :angel
Title: Re: The noisiest songs you know!
Post by: piggymirror on May 12, 2020, 06:39:03
Atari Teenage Riot certainly released some very noisy (entirely electronic) songs.
I think they split? I haven't heard from them or their leader Alec Empire for very long...

Title: Re: The noisiest songs you know!
Post by: piggymirror on May 12, 2020, 06:48:17
I think Kim Gordon once described this song as "our top, we can't go any further than that, noise-wise". Looks likely.
Although I've never watched this being played live, it is certainly one of their hardest, and anyone who has watched them play knows they are noisy indeed.

Title: Re: The noisiest songs you know!
Post by: Matti on May 14, 2020, 23:03:32
Quote from: SueC on May 12, 2020, 01:23:51Disclaimer:  I know absolutely nothing about this band.

You should work on that. Apparently Robert was heavily influenced by Mogwai when Bloodflowers was recorded.

Other than that, I'm not sure about Your interpretations. Actually, My Father My King is based on Avinu Malkeinu, a Jewish prayer (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/My_Father_My_King#Composition).

Some comments on Tool - say hello to Brett and immerse yourself in that album (and Fear Inoculum, for that matter). If the sound is not your cup of tea, there's also some string quartet tribute collections floating around.

If You're into in numbers, pay close attention to Lateralis. Fibonacci would have loved it.  ;)

And I quite liked that tree image/theory.
Title: Re: The noisiest songs you know!
Post by: SueC on May 15, 2020, 05:04:00
Quote from: Matti on May 14, 2020, 23:03:32
Quote from: SueC on May 12, 2020, 01:23:51Disclaimer:  I know absolutely nothing about this band.

You should work on that. Apparently Robert was heavily influenced by Mogwai when Bloodflowers was recorded.

I'm actually not so obsessed by music, or even music I like, that I feel the need to follow everything down its rabbit hole of influences!  :)   Life is so short, and I have so many other things to do that take precedence to this.


QuoteOther than that, I'm not sure about Your interpretations. Actually, My Father My King is based on Avinu Malkeinu, a Jewish prayer (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/My_Father_My_King#Composition).

That's interesting to know, thank you.  :cool

"Your interpretations"?  There's a big difference between an interpretation and a flagged possibility.  Everyone responds in their own way, based on their own experiences and ways of thinking and feeling, to various texts they encounter.  This is why I never think I have an ultimate interpretation - much as I enjoy speculating.  I am very aware that all my speculations are tinted by the spectacles of my own prior experiences and my own (current) entity, as are everyone's.  The beauty about discussing music with others is that you then get to glimpse it through their various tints of experiential and personal spectacles as well (see one of my favourite poems below). 

And sometimes you even get someone digging up what it meant to the writer! :)  That's always really helpful.


THE BLIND MEN AND THE ELEPHANT
John Godfrey Saxe

It was six men of Indostan
To learning much inclined,
Who went to see the Elephant
(Though all of them were blind),
That each by observation
Might satisfy his mind.

The First approached the Elephant,
And happening to fall
Against his broad and sturdy side,
At once began to bawl:
"God bless me!--but the Elephant
Is very like a wall!"

The Second, feeling of the tusk,
Cried: "Ho!--what have we here
So very round and smooth and sharp?
To me 't is mighty clear
This wonder of an Elephant
Is very like a spear!"

The Third approached the animal,
And happening to take
The squirming trunk within his hands,
Thus boldly up and spake:
"I see," quoth he, "the Elephant
Is very like a snake!"

The Fourth reached out his eager hand,
And felt about the knee.
"What most this wondrous beast is like
Is mighty plain," quoth he;
"'T is clear enough the Elephant
Is very like a tree!"

The Fifth, who chanced to touch the ear,
Said: "E'en the blindest man
Can tell what this resembles most;
Deny the fact who can,
This marvel of an Elephant
Is very like a fan!"

The Sixth no sooner had begun
About the beast to grope,
Than, seizing on the swinging tail
That fell within his scope,
"I see," quoth he, "the Elephant
Is very like a rope!"

And so these men of Indostan
Disputed loud and long,
Each in his own opinion
Exceeding stiff and strong,
Though each was partly in the right,
And all were in the wrong!

..and if these learned men had all talked to each other and created a synthesis instead of arguing like this, then they would actually have had the opportunity to come far closer to the reality than each could on their own, and learnt so much in the process... :heart-eyes


QuoteSome comments on Tool - say hello to Brett and immerse yourself in that album (and Fear Inoculum, for that matter). If the sound is not your cup of tea, there's also some string quartet tribute collections floating around.

If You're into in numbers, pay close attention to Lateralis. Fibonacci would have loved it.  ;)

Haha, that sounds intriguing.   :cool

The capital Ys, not so much I'm afraid.   :P

I might give this album a spin, but it has plenty of competition.  The fact that my husband likes it will make it more likely than if it were a noisy album he didn't though - since it then also becomes an exercise in getting to know him better, which with a spouse, is always worth doing! :)


QuoteAnd I quite liked that tree image/theory.

Nature can teach us a lot of things too.   :cool   

Loooooook.... :heart-eyes

(http://photography.coulstock.id.au/gallery/landscape/photos/img_2553.jpg)

(http://photography.coulstock.id.au/gallery/landscape/photos/img_2652.jpg)

Have a decent day!  :)


Title: Re: The noisiest songs you know!
Post by: Ulrich on May 15, 2020, 09:05:14
Quote from: SueC on May 15, 2020, 05:04:00I'm actually not so obsessed by music, or even music I like, that I feel the need to follow everything down its rabbit hole of influences!  :)   Life is so short, and I have so many other things to do that take precedence to this.

That is okay, of course. But you should still check out Mogwai, simply because they are a great band. I saw them live several times (first time at Hyde Park, on a bill with The Cure, Cranes and others)! I was far from stage, still they were very loud.
Saw them again in 2004, 2006 (I think) and 2011, each gig was special. (In 2004, from what I remember "My Father My King" was the encore and mind-blowing.)

Here's another noisy one of theirs:

(Gotta say, I prefer the "darker", quieter ones mostly - or those which start off quiet and then slowly grow into "noise".)
Title: Re: The noisiest songs you know!
Post by: SueC on May 16, 2020, 11:47:31
OK, @Matti and @Ulrich, I'll put it on my list!  :)

Maybe I can multi-task it with boring computer work.  Why don't you two throw some more of their songs you like best on the Currently Listening thread?  Noisy or not.  :angel
Title: Re: The noisiest songs you know!
Post by: SueC on May 29, 2020, 08:10:56
OK, this song really should be on the "noisy" list - and I do enjoy this one... :angel


C'mon, @Ulrich, how about you play an outrageously loud punk rock number?  :)

Like maybe the loudest thing you know from The Damned?
Title: Re: The noisiest songs you know!
Post by: Ulrich on May 29, 2020, 10:32:33
Quote from: SueC on May 29, 2020, 08:10:56Like maybe the loudest thing you know from The Damned?

Well, there's always this one (the title screams to be used in this topic):
Title: Re: The noisiest songs you know!
Post by: Ulrich on June 03, 2020, 09:42:43
The Cure at their noisiest (and shortest!); apparently they sent this version to the record company for a compilation album (before sending the "real" version later) and they had the good humour to include this too...

Title: Re: The noisiest songs you know!
Post by: piggymirror on June 03, 2020, 18:38:47
Title: Re: The noisiest songs you know!
Post by: SueC on June 05, 2020, 02:33:41
OK, only the second half of this is noisy, but it's a nice morning for it.


:heart-eyes  :cool

Quote from: Ulrich on June 03, 2020, 09:42:43The Cure at their noisiest (and shortest!); apparently they sent this version to the record company for a compilation album (before sending the "real" version later) and they had the good humour to include this too...

...and that's my favourite version of their covers of this, or anyone's covers, or the original!   :evil:  :1f632:  :-D  :angel

Nice guitar feedback there, @piggymirror!  :)
Title: Re: The noisiest songs you know!
Post by: Ulrich on August 19, 2020, 20:12:29
Certainly topical these days... "you're wearing a mask"!  :1f637:

Title: Re: The noisiest songs you know!
Post by: SueC on August 20, 2020, 01:54:29
@Ulrich, is that a picture of Iggy Pop after he played guitar on that album?  :angel  ...and did he have to bandage his elbow because he missed (perhaps not wearing his glasses), or used a large-gauge needle like you would for equine anaesthesia?  :winking_tongue  :evil:

This song would be hilarious as a cross-artist B-side for the following song, which is not noisy...


:lol:  :lol:  :lol:
Title: Re: The noisiest songs you know!
Post by: Ulrich on August 20, 2020, 09:47:25
John Farnham and now Fleetwood Mac... say no more.  :1f634:
Title: Re: The noisiest songs you know!
Post by: SueC on August 20, 2020, 15:35:58
Quote from: Ulrich on August 20, 2020, 09:47:25John Farnham and now Fleetwood Mac... say no more.  :1f634:

Dear Ulrich, I got this bucket especially for you.  :angel

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Once full, you may carry it to your cherry tree and fertilise it with the contents, which will, due to the endless amazingness of nature, return to you in the form of sweet juicy cherries next summer.   :smth023


...and here's a noisy song:  Strauss played on ship horns...  :evil:

Title: Re: The noisiest songs you know!
Post by: Ulrich on August 20, 2020, 15:59:59
Ship horns, oh my tinnitus!  :1f62e:

Quote from: SueC on August 20, 2020, 15:35:58Dear Ulrich, I got this bucket especially for you.  :angel

"Man reiche mir den Übelkübel, sonst wird mir ohne Kübel übel..."  :-D