Brexit

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piggymirror

Quote from: Ulrich on January 15, 2020, 14:40:34Not so much lately. More like since 2001, when (almost) everyone had access to the internet (and many trolls did flood the internet forums with their infinite "wisdom")...  :unamused:

Hmmm... I'd say it's worse now. Only that on forums most of those people have already been banned.

But now a great number of those people have moved away from forums to Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, WhatsApp, etc.

Ulrich

Quote from: piggymirror on January 15, 2020, 17:40:43But now a great number of those people have moved away from forums to Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, WhatsApp, etc.

I can't comment about twitter, insta, whatsapp because I don't use them. I'm on Facebook, but in my "circles" there it's not gotten worse. (There's always been a few trolls. Sometimes more, sometimes less. Trouble in internet forums is: some of them return in a new disguise...)
And the way the rain comes down hard
that's how I feel inside...

piggymirror

Quote from: Ulrich on January 15, 2020, 19:54:59Trouble in internet forums is: some of them return in a new disguise...)

Clones.

They get permabanned, but they re-register, yes.


Ulrich

Now it's official. But no need to worry about lack of news, there'll be long negotiations about the deals for the future...

Article in German Looking back on 3 years of "Brexiting":

https://www.t-online.de/nachrichten/ausland/internationale-politik/id_87257332/das-brexit-drama-in-drei-akten-luegen-stuerzten-ein-land-ins-chaos.html
QuoteDie Brexit-Befürworter feiern, denn sie haben diesen Tag lange herbeigesehnt. Die Befürworter des EU-Verbleibs landen dagegen auf dem Boden der Realität – viele hatten bis zuletzt gehofft, den Austritt trotz des Referendums noch verhindern zu können. Für die europäische Gemeinschaft ist es in jedem Fall ein trauriges Ereignis, der Brexit war immer schon eine Niederlage des Multilateralismus. Großbritannien steht vor einer ungewissen Zukunft, die genauen Ausmaße des jetzt eintretenden Prozesses können noch nicht beziffert werden. Doch eines ist klar: Letztlich gewinnen weder die Briten noch die EU. National und international geht es um Schadensbegrenzung – wie schon in den vergangenen drei Jahren.
And the way the rain comes down hard
that's how I feel inside...


SueC

Quote from: piggymirror on January 31, 2020, 22:06:42What the Brexiteers told the Brits...

What they really meant...

What Brexit will probably end up looking like...

What the EU citizens thought in the beginning...

What the EU citizens think now...

Me...


ROFL  :lol:

You're definitely winning a prize for that little precis!  :cool



PS:  I am sorry the prize is so conventional.  Maybe I'll think of a song later.  ;)

PPS:  I've thought of a song, but it's not by The Cure.  Good hair but :winking_tongue, and the song fits.  Heck, this song always fits...


PPPS:  I didn't know the last track.  Very nice.  Thanks for the intro!   :smth023
SueC is time travelling

dsanchez

2022.10.06 Riga
2022.10.08 Helsinki
2022.10.10 Stockholm
2022.10.12 Oslo
2022.10.14 Copenhagen

Ulrich

Quote from: undefinedAs Britain now coasts into Brexit, music industry names continue to voice their fears over the uncertain future that faces homegrown touring artists. Last year, the value of the UK's live music scene surged to £1.1billion, but now many say the implications of Brexit could be "devastating" to artists wishing to tour Europe.

Its thought that the extra expenses incurred and added paperwork relating to Visas, taxation and transporting equipment and merchandise will make crossing the Channel  "completely unviable" for new and mid-level artists. Tens of thousands have already signed a petition by the Musicians' Union calling for a new passport that will allow acts and crew to travel freely between EU member states, ridding them of new required permits.

The main concerns revolve around the money and manpower involved in completing the paperwork for multiple Visas to work across Europe, as well as filling carnets (an international customs and temporary export-import document) for the movement of all instruments and equipment, paying tax on the import and export of merchandise and applying for licences to do so on each tour, payment of social security in each individual EU country, and the regular checks against all documentation to ensure that it covers artists for a period of grace beyond any touring that you may be doing.
https://www.nme.com/features/how-brexit-will-screw-over-british-touring-artists-2604516
And the way the rain comes down hard
that's how I feel inside...

piggymirror

Quote from: Ulrich on February 04, 2020, 09:28:31
Quote from: undefinedAs Britain now coasts into Brexit, music industry names continue to voice their fears over the uncertain future that faces homegrown touring artists. Last year, the value of the UK's live music scene surged to £1.1billion, but now many say the implications of Brexit could be "devastating" to artists wishing to tour Europe.

Its thought that the extra expenses incurred and added paperwork relating to Visas, taxation and transporting equipment and merchandise will make crossing the Channel  "completely unviable" for new and mid-level artists. Tens of thousands have already signed a petition by the Musicians' Union calling for a new passport that will allow acts and crew to travel freely between EU member states, ridding them of new required permits.

The main concerns revolve around the money and manpower involved in completing the paperwork for multiple Visas to work across Europe, as well as filling carnets (an international customs and temporary export-import document) for the movement of all instruments and equipment, paying tax on the import and export of merchandise and applying for licences to do so on each tour, payment of social security in each individual EU country, and the regular checks against all documentation to ensure that it covers artists for a period of grace beyond any touring that you may be doing.
https://www.nme.com/features/how-brexit-will-screw-over-british-touring-artists-2604516

Haven't they said "hello I'm here" a bit late?


Ulrich

Quote from: piggymirror on February 04, 2020, 20:13:02Haven't they said "hello I'm here" a bit late?

Who's they? The NME? The musicians? If it's the latter, the answer is a resounding "NO!". Look at post #68 here in this thread.

Have you read the article I linked? The quote was only a small part of it.

QuoteIn 2018, the CEO of UK Music, Michael Dugher, wrote a letter to Theresa May warning that "the ending of free movement with no waiver for musicians will put our fast-growing live music sector, that generates around £1 billion a year for the UK economy, at serious risk". While all the headlines regarding that huge income are often centred around the phenomenal success of the likes of Ed Sheeran and Adele, Davyd warns that the chances of other acts being able to reach their level of fame and exposure will be severely hampered by Brexit.
And the way the rain comes down hard
that's how I feel inside...

piggymirror

2018 was after the referendum anyway...
There's also this December 2016 article by Bernard Sumner. AFTER the referendum.
Before the referendum I was only aware of... Bob Geldof.
And I know, Art.50, the Commons shitshow, and etc, but still, Remain weren't trying hard enough at the right time, that is before the referendum.
Now it's a bit too late.

And yes, I read it.

I looooved the "Unleashing Britain's Potential" photo.  :1f637:
I would have loved it even more if some pidgeon had been passing by and dropped him a present...

Ulrich

Quote from: piggymirror on February 05, 2020, 20:17:26And yes, I read it.

Good, then next time please write a bit more about it than just one line.

Now it's a bit too late.  :P
And the way the rain comes down hard
that's how I feel inside...

piggymirror

Quote from: Ulrich on February 05, 2020, 20:41:50Good, then next time please write a bit more about it than just one line.

Now it's a bit too late.  :P

Ok I lose.

<hides under bed, scares cat who scratches him, so runs down to the basement instead, incidentally finding a snail in it, and, for some reason, an Austrian girl>

But you can't deny that oJoB must have got his coiffeur inspiration from somewhere.  :1f631:

Come to think of it, isn't "oJoB" what's heard at the start of Pornography?
People say it's "poor George", but it gets distorted.
That must have been a pre-ammunition.

SueC

Sorry to butt in, gentlemen, but I am intrigued by the cat and the snail, and their further fates; and also whether they appeared to express any views on Brexit while in your presence, @piggymirror.  I don't think their kind have been sufficiently consulted to date on the scenario.  :angel

And speaking of strange things half heard in songs, I still want to know if anyone can help me with the apparent repeated uttering of the word "bathtub" by the background person on the remix of Out Of This World on Join The Dots.  If you can assist with that issue, as it's off-topic here, please pop it onto this thread: http://curefans.com/index.php?topic=9201.msg771763#msg771763 (gives the post it was asked in) 

...regrettably I can't do any useful contributions on serious topics today because we have a heatwave here (currently it's a toasty 39 degrees C) and my brain is boiling :1f630:  (as farm chores render me unable to huddle indoors where it's cool all day long but I am seriously considering becoming nocturnal in summertime...)
SueC is time travelling

Ulrich

Are you the Australian girl, SueC?  :?

Quote from: piggymirror on February 05, 2020, 20:17:26Remain weren't trying hard enough at the right time, that is before the referendum.

Nice words, but maybe you should've told them before the referendum... (too late, again).  :disappointed:
And the way the rain comes down hard
that's how I feel inside...