Russia attacks Ukraine

Started by dsanchez, February 24, 2022, 10:20:02

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MeltingMan

Ursula has b*lls of st**l. Respect!

En cette nation [Russie] qui n'a pas eu de théoriciens et de démagogues,
les pires ferments de destruction ont apparu. (J. Péladan)

MeltingMan

Note the fresh graves. A picture sometimes says more than a thousand words.

En cette nation [Russie] qui n'a pas eu de théoriciens et de démagogues,
les pires ferments de destruction ont apparu. (J. Péladan)

MeltingMan

Battle scenes from Eastern Ukraine (graphic content; not for children).

En cette nation [Russie] qui n'a pas eu de théoriciens et de démagogues,
les pires ferments de destruction ont apparu. (J. Péladan)

Ulrich

Can't say the Ukrainian government is acting very wisely here...

https://www.t-online.de/nachrichten/deutschland/innenpolitik/id_92008410/ukraine-laedt-bundespraesident-steinmeier-aus-dieser-affront-wird-folgen-haben.html

QuoteDeutschland öffentlich zu brüskieren, hilft niemandem. Die Regierung mag zu zögerlich in ihrer Unterstützung sein und das kann man ihr vorwerfen. Aber an der Frage, auf wessen Seite sie in diesem Krieg steht, gibt es keine Zweifel. Die Absage wird es Bundeskanzler Olaf Scholz nicht erleichtern, sondern erschweren, mehr Hilfe zu leisten. Wenn er jetzt der Forderung des ukrainischen Botschafters nachkommt, in die Ukraine zu reisen, fällt er damit dem Bundespräsidenten in den Rücken.

Es sollte auch nicht ganz vergessen werden, dass Deutschland nach den USA vor dem Krieg der zweitgrößte Geldgeber für die Ukraine war. Wer Deutschland öffentlich brüskiert, riskiert auch, dass sich die Stimmung in der Bevölkerung wendet. 
The holy city breathed like a dying man...

MeltingMan

Quote from: Alexander Müller (FDP)Everything is secret.


PS: Let's stick to the facts: "Invited" were Mrs. Merkel and Mr. Sarkozy. EU representatives, including U. von der Leyen, appeared - by the way, not with 'empty hands', which Ukraine obviously values. The German President has no real powers. He should and can only moderate/represent. In addition, Mr. Steinmeier only recently publicly admitted his own "failure". Only he stands like no other for the policy of appeasement and maintenance of the status quo, not only towards the Russian Federation, but generally towards states where human rights are violated on a daily basis. The justification given was always that 'we also have to talk to these states'. We now see where this has led. In other words: he should actually take responsibility and give up his office, because he stands for a different time. To say 'we were wrong and just carry on' is grotesque.

En cette nation [Russie] qui n'a pas eu de théoriciens et de démagogues,
les pires ferments de destruction ont apparu. (J. Péladan)

Ulrich

Quote from: MeltingMan on April 13, 2022, 16:39:33The justification given was always that 'we also have to talk to these states'. We now see where this has led. In other words: he should actually take responsibility and give up his office, because he stands for a different time. To say 'we were wrong and just carry on' is grotesque.

Well if that's the case, our whole government should "give up office". Plus many other countries' governments too. (And btw, Ukraine and Russia are also still "talking" with each other!)

Let's just hope the relations between those countries will go back to "normal" after this unpleasant "affront"!
The holy city breathed like a dying man...

MeltingMan

QuoteThe 43rd Artillery Brigade demonstrated the work of the 2S7 "Pion" self-propelled artillery.

En cette nation [Russie] qui n'a pas eu de théoriciens et de démagogues,
les pires ferments de destruction ont apparu. (J. Péladan)

MeltingMan


To cut a long story short: I'm definitely in favor of a lend-lease program like the one that existed for the Soviet Union at the time. It was crucial to the war. The Federal Republic is already helping in a number of ways, only too little is being said about it. Added to this are the demands of the Ukrainian government in 'war rhetoric'. But we don't want to be drawn into the conflict, and I think I can speak for many Germans on that. The opponents have to work this out among themselves. They have the potential to do so. There is no doubt that Putin has repeatedly crossed the red line. In addition, fears are fueled that have a significant impact on public opinion. We need to analyze very carefully what has gone wrong since 1990. Relentless...
En cette nation [Russie] qui n'a pas eu de théoriciens et de démagogues,
les pires ferments de destruction ont apparu. (J. Péladan)

Ulrich

Quote from: MeltingMan on April 23, 2022, 10:27:25But we don't want to be drawn into the conflict, and I think I can speak for many Germans on that. The opponents have to work this out among themselves.

I do agree. It's a thin line between "helping" and "being drawn into it".
The most dominant partner within the Nato is the USA and they're across the ocean, thus our "safety" won't mean as much to them as it means to us.
The holy city breathed like a dying man...

MeltingMan

QuoteMore than half of the M777 howitzer artillery units promised to Ukraine by the Pentagon have been delivered, according to US Defence officials.

En cette nation [Russie] qui n'a pas eu de théoriciens et de démagogues,
les pires ferments de destruction ont apparu. (J. Péladan)

MeltingMan

Not the best picture quality, but I think it goes quite well with the previous post.

En cette nation [Russie] qui n'a pas eu de théoriciens et de démagogues,
les pires ferments de destruction ont apparu. (J. Péladan)

MeltingMan

QuoteZmiinyi Island, or Snake Island, is where Ukrainian soldiers reportedly told a Russian warship crew to go "f***" themselves early in the war, a story that was commemorated by a postage stamp released in April.

When the war is over, I would like to go on vacation there. 😎

En cette nation [Russie] qui n'a pas eu de théoriciens et de démagogues,
les pires ferments de destruction ont apparu. (J. Péladan)

MeltingMan

Note the blast... exploding ammo inside the tank.

En cette nation [Russie] qui n'a pas eu de théoriciens et de démagogues,
les pires ferments de destruction ont apparu. (J. Péladan)

MeltingMan

En cette nation [Russie] qui n'a pas eu de théoriciens et de démagogues,
les pires ferments de destruction ont apparu. (J. Péladan)

MeltingMan

En cette nation [Russie] qui n'a pas eu de théoriciens et de démagogues,
les pires ferments de destruction ont apparu. (J. Péladan)