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The Cure => Music and Lyrics => Topic started by: Whiskers on November 19, 2008, 10:32:20

Title: What all do you own by The Cure?
Post by: Whiskers on November 19, 2008, 10:32:20
Albums:
Seventeen Seconds: Deluxe Edition
Pornography: Deluxe Edition
Concert: The Cure Live
The Head On The Door: Deluxe Edition
Kiss Me Kiss Me Kiss Me: Deluxe Edition
Disintegration
Wish
Show
Paris
Wild Mood Swings
Bloodflowers
The Cure: Greatest Hits
Join The Dots
The Cure
4:13 Dream

Singles/EPS:
Fascination Street
Lullaby
Pictures Of You
Never Enough
Close To Me (Remix)
High
Sideshow
The 13th
Mint Car (both versions)
Strange Attraction
Wrong Number
Cut Here
The End Of The World
alt.end
Taking Off
The Only One
Freakshow
Sleep When I'm Dead
The Perfect Boy
Hypnagogic States

DVD/VHS:
The Cure: Greatest Hits
Trilogy
Festival 2005
Title: Re: What all do you own by The Cure?
Post by: tigermilk on November 19, 2008, 13:29:12
Albums:

Three Imaginary Boys
Boys Don't Cry (Aus version of TIB w/ Boys Don't Cry & Jumping Someone Else's Train included)
Seventeen Seconds
Faith
Pornography
Japanese Whispers
The Top
The Head On The Door
Kiss Me Kiss Me Kiss Me
Disintegration
Wish
Wild Mood Swings
Bloodflowers
The Cure
4:13 Dream

Three Imaginary Boys: Deluxe Edition
Seventeen Seconds: Deluxe Edition
Pornography: Deluxe Edition
The Top: Deluxe Edition
The Head On The Door: Deluxe Edition
Kiss Me Kiss Me Kiss Me: Deluxe Edition

Show
Concert
Paris
Standing On A Beach
Galore
Greatest Hits
Join The Dots

Singles/EPS:
Fascination Street
Pictures Of You
High
Entreat
Mint Car
Close To Me
The End Of The World
The Only One
Freakshow
Sleep When I'm Dead
The Perfect Boy
Hypnagogic States

DVD/VHS:
Greatest Hits
Trilogy
Festival 2005

VINYL:
Seventeen Seconds
Faith
Japanese Whispers
The Head On The Door
The Walk
Title: Re: What all do you own by The Cure?
Post by: pyota on November 20, 2008, 14:39:31
doesn't anybody here have any collectors items or classic bootlegs?

i've got mixed up 5CD box, lovebox, lost wishes, lovesong decade of the cure promo video. bootlegs: m, live on prospect hill, the walk, 17 boys have faith in pornography, what happened behind the door?, europe 1991, sweet talking guy, acoustic daze, the walk ...
Title: Re: What all do you own by The Cure?
Post by: tigermilk on November 20, 2008, 16:28:38
Quote from: pyota on November 20, 2008, 14:39:31
doesn't anybody here have any collectors items or classic bootlegs?

i've got mixed up 5CD box, lovebox, lost wishes, lovesong decade of the cure promo video. bootlegs: m, live on prospect hill, the walk, 17 boys have faith in pornography, what happened behind the door?, europe 1991, sweet talking guy, acoustic daze, the walk ...

Yeah, I've got heaps of bootlegs. But I was only listing my official material.  :smth023
Title: Re: What all do you own by The Cure?
Post by: fiction on November 30, 2008, 23:44:26
I´ve got them all in all different formats (the official releases that is). Of course I have a lot of Bootlegs aswell but mostly recordings with good soundquality. All in all I have 278 different songs with the Cure and then I´m not counting all the different "Forever" and "Why Can´t I be You" more than once. I do count different named soundchecks as for example "Mission Impossible" and "I Hate Rock n Roll" as songs though. My rarest song would be "Boys Don´t Cry" with reverb and a slight echo on the song. It´s named as "Take Two" on the chestnut demo and is also availible as "Take Two" on the bootleg "Let´s Go".
Title: Re: What all do you own by The Cure?
Post by: japanesebaby on December 01, 2008, 23:08:10
hi there and welcome to curefans  :)
Quote from: fiction on November 30, 2008, 23:44:26
My rarest song would be "Boys Don´t Cry" with reverb and a slight echo on the song. It´s named as "Take Two" on the chestnut demo and is also availible as "Take Two" on the bootleg "Let´s Go".

isn't that on the TIB deluxe bonus disc (among other chestnut studio demos)?

Title: Re: What all do you own by The Cure?
Post by: lostflower4 on December 02, 2008, 07:43:31
Quote from: japanesebaby on December 01, 2008, 23:08:10
hi there and welcome to curefans  :)
Quote from: fiction on November 30, 2008, 23:44:26
My rarest song would be "Boys Don´t Cry" with reverb and a slight echo on the song. It´s named as "Take Two" on the chestnut demo and is also availible as "Take Two" on the bootleg "Let´s Go".

isn't that on the TIB deluxe bonus disc (among other chestnut studio demos)?

This was also on the official Concert/Curiosity cassette, and from there it was bootlegged and spread all over the internet during the '90s.

So perhaps not a rarity, but finding a good quality copy was a bit more challenging until recently.

I never owned this cassette, but I remember that the commonly circulating bootleg versions were of poor quality and ran way too fast, which really didn't help matters when you consider how young Robert sounded in the first place!
Title: Re: What all do you own by The Cure?
Post by: japanesebaby on December 02, 2008, 08:22:30
Quote from: lostflower4 on December 02, 2008, 07:43:31
Quote from: japanesebaby on December 01, 2008, 23:08:10
hi there and welcome to curefans  :)
Quote from: fiction on November 30, 2008, 23:44:26
My rarest song would be "Boys Don´t Cry" with reverb and a slight echo on the song. It´s named as "Take Two" on the chestnut demo and is also availible as "Take Two" on the bootleg "Let´s Go".

isn't that on the TIB deluxe bonus disc (among other chestnut studio demos)?

This was also on the official Concert/Curiosity cassette, and from there it was bootlegged and spread all over the internet during the '90s.

So perhaps not a rarity, but finding a good quality copy was a bit more challenging until recently.

I never owned this cassette, but I remember that the commonly circulating bootleg versions were of poor quality and ran way too fast, which really didn't help matters when you consider how young Robert sounded in the first place!

i never heard any those bootlegged version but i don't think concert/curiosity cassette tape was really that rare item(?). at least i think one saw used tapes sold here and there every once in a while (at least ever since the ebay was up) and one certainly didn't have to pay any crazy prices like for the 'lost wishes' tape or something like it.
so i assume finding a good quality copy wasn't that difficult, just as long as you were ready to transfer the tape yourself. 
Title: Re: What all do you own by The Cure?
Post by: fiction on December 02, 2008, 12:36:28


isn't that on the TIB deluxe bonus disc (among other chestnut studio demos)?[/quote]

This was also on the official Concert/Curiosity cassette, and from there it was bootlegged and spread all over the internet during the '90s.

So perhaps not a rarity, but finding a good quality copy was a bit more challenging until recently.

But this is not the same version as the one on the Concert/Curiosity cassette. This is another version with echo/reverb on the vocals. It goes under the name "BDC Take Two". It´s on the vinyl-bootleg "Let´s Go", which is the Curiosity plus this extra version of BDC.
Title: Re: What all do you own by The Cure?
Post by: japanesebaby on December 02, 2008, 12:40:36
Quote from: fiction on December 02, 2008, 12:36:28
But this is not the same version as the one on the Concert/Curiosity cassette. This is another version with echo/reverb on the vocals. It goes under the name "BDC Take Two". It´s on the vinyl-bootleg "Let´s Go", which is the Curiosity plus this extra version of BDC.

is it the one with this cover?:

(http://www.levykauppax.fi/cover/normal/3/34/34922.jpg)
Title: Re: What all do you own by The Cure?
Post by: fiction on December 02, 2008, 15:25:48
is it the one with this cover?

Yes it is. Last track on the B-side (not marked) says Boys Don´t Cry Take Two. That´s the one I mean. And surely that track is not on Concert/Curiosity or the remastered version of 3IB?!
Title: Re: What all do you own by The Cure?
Post by: japanesebaby on December 02, 2008, 20:33:30
Quote from: fiction on December 02, 2008, 15:25:48
Yes it is. Last track on the B-side (not marked) says Boys Don´t Cry Take Two. That´s the one I mean. And surely that track is not on Concert/Curiosity or the remastered version of 3IB?!

i see. actually i just know how the cover looks like, i really can't check the track listing/how this track sounds like as i don't have that vinyl bootleg myself.
(someone was actually trying to sell it to me with 30 euros some time ago but i refuse pay for bootlegs out of principle. unofficial recordings should be shared without profit, not purchased).

Title: Re: What all do you own by The Cure?
Post by: lostflower4 on December 02, 2008, 20:51:28
Quote from: fiction on December 02, 2008, 15:25:48Last track on the B-side (not marked) says Boys Don´t Cry Take Two. That´s the one I mean. And surely that track is not on Concert/Curiosity or the remastered version of 3IB?!

Any chance this is from the December 1978 Peel Session? That version has a distinctive reverb-heavy sound.

Great version, by the way.
Title: Re: What all do you own by The Cure?
Post by: fiction on December 02, 2008, 21:09:36

Any chance this is from the December 1978 Peel Session? That version has a distinctive reverb-heavy sound.

Great version, by the way.
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No, this version is faster, much faster and the reverb is more distinct. If you want to I can rip it into an mp3-file and post it to any of your email-addreses. If I can find them that is.

But yeah. When I first heard this version I figure it could be from this Peel-session since I find Fire in Cairo has a similar soundimage.

Title: Re: What all do you own by The Cure?
Post by: fiction on December 02, 2008, 22:04:46
Check Your inbox lostflower4!
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Title: Re: What all do you own by The Cure?
Post by: lostflower4 on December 02, 2008, 22:21:32
Quote from: fiction on December 02, 2008, 22:04:46
Check Your inbox lostflower4!
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Thank you.

But just as I was saying, this IS the same demo that can be found on the Three Imaginary Boys bonus disc and the Curiosity cassette.

Just as I remembered, this bootleg version is really sped up, and it also sounds like the source has been degraded quite a bit.

Yes, there is more reverb/ambiance, but this could have simply been added by someone else.

Whatever the case may be, it's the same performance — just with some different "processing".

A similar thing could be said about the official "Faded Smiles" demo vs. the one that got leaked on the internet many years before this. They are the same performance, but the official version has some different production values.
Title: Re: What all do you own by The Cure?
Post by: japanesebaby on December 02, 2008, 22:47:54
Quote from: lostflower4 on December 02, 2008, 22:21:32
Just as I remembered, this bootleg version is really sped up, and it also sounds like the source has been degraded quite a bit.

actually i was just going to ask whether the speed is really faster or if the pitch is also changed - which means it's was simply (intentionally or accidentally) sped up later which means it's off-speed too.

sorry to hear the version is a fake, fiction. although unfortunately i don't think it's the first time that some "slightly cooked" version has been added to some bootleg, perhaps added by some bootlegger just in order wanting to make his bootleg more attractive.
some fake live bootlegs have been put together in similar manner.



Title: Re: What all do you own by The Cure?
Post by: fiction on December 02, 2008, 23:03:32
Whatever the case may be, it's the same performance — just with some different "processing".

If this is the true it had to be done with a purpose. I don´t find either of the other tracks on the Let´s Go-boot sped up. And I´m pretty sure that the two versions of BDC on the boot are not the same. I could agree that the first version of BDC on Let´s Go is the one to be found on Curiosity. I don´t put any prestige in this matter but I still like to think that this is another version. But I will spend a couple hours nex weekend to see if I can find what You guys obviously have found. I don´t see the similarity that clear. Yet.
Title: Re: What all do you own by The Cure?
Post by: japanesebaby on December 02, 2008, 23:08:58
Quote from: fiction on December 02, 2008, 23:03:32
Whatever the case may be, it's the same performance — just with some different "processing".

If this is the true it had to be done with a purpose. I don´t find either of the other tracks on the Let´s Go-boot sped up. And I´m pretty sure that the two versions of BDC on the boot are not the same. I could agree that the first version of BDC on Let´s Go is the one to be found on Curiosity. I don´t put any prestige in this matter but I still like to think that this is another version. But I will spend a couple hours nex weekend to see if I can find what You guys obviously have found. I don´t see the similarity that clear. Yet.

one easy thing to do would be just to compare the pitches, i presume(?).
(i could always do the pitch comparison in a minute if you want, if you could send me both versions on the bootleg. either complete songs or just samples from the same passage would do.)
also, the details of the performance (mainly vocal part) often easily give up this kind of stuff.
Title: Re: What all do you own by The Cure?
Post by: fiction on December 02, 2008, 23:20:26


one easy thing to do would be just to compare the pitches, i presume(?).
(i could always do the pitch comparison in a minute if you want, if you could send me both versions on the bootleg. either complete songs or just samples from the same passage would do.)
also, the details of the performance (mainly vocal part) often easily give up this kind of stuff.

Yeah, that would be nice. I have to hit the hug right now (early start tomorrow) but as soon as I get home tomorrow I´ll rip and post the two songs as mp3-files to You. Is Your e-mail to be found on the page?
Title: Re: What all do you own by The Cure?
Post by: japanesebaby on December 02, 2008, 23:22:19
Quote from: fiction on December 02, 2008, 23:20:26
Is Your e-mail to be found on the page?

nope. but just send me a pm via forum.
Title: Re: What all do you own by The Cure?
Post by: mint car on December 03, 2008, 21:08:51
albums:
Galore
Join The Dots compilation
Three Imaginary Boys (Deluxe Edition)
Seventeen Seconds
Faith
Pornography
The Head On The Door
Kiss Me Kiss Me Kiss Me
Disintegration
Wish
Wild Mood Swings
Bloodflowers
The Cure
4:13 Dream

DVDs, VHS:
In Orange
Picture Show
Show
Trilogy
Festival 2005

book The Cure - Visual Documentary (in slovak language) 4Tour book, a few buttons and many bootlegs and videos...
Title: Re: What all do you own by The Cure?
Post by: Carnage Visor on December 04, 2008, 08:55:28
I'm an IPOD generation Cure fan, so I don't have that many physical albums. I do have a few CD albums, "The Head On The Door", "The Top", "Kiss Me Kiss Me Kiss Me", and "Greatest Hits".

I also have the Cure's two live concert DVDs and Staring At The Sea on VHS (which I watched the hell out of).
Title: Re: What all do you own by The Cure?
Post by: fiction on December 05, 2008, 22:38:52
Okay, maybe I didn´t have ´em all but I spread out my collection yesterday and just floated on the different covers... Beautiful.

And here they are...

Vinyl albums

Three Imaginary Boys
Boys Don´t Cry
Seventeen Seconds
Faith (Fiction + gatefold cover, Swedish pressing, Norwegian printing)
Happily Ever After
Pornography
The Walk (Mini album, German pressing)
Japanese Whispers
The Top
Concert
The Head on the Door
Standing on A Beach
The Peel Sessions (Strange Fruit)
Kiss Me Kiss Me Kiss Me
Disintegration
Entreat
Mixed Up
Wish
Wild Mood Swings
Galore
Bloodflowers

CD-albums

Three Imaginary Boys
Three Imaginary Boys Deluxe (both textbooks)
Seventeen Seconds (two different pressings)
Seventeen Seconds Deluxe
Faith (two different pressings)
Faith Deluxe
Pornography (two different pressings)
Pornography Deluxe
Japanese Whispers
The Top
The Top Deluxe
Concert
The Head on the Door
The Head on the Door Deluxe
Staring at the Sea
Kiss Me Kiss Me Kiss Me
Kiss Me Kiss Me Kiss Me Deluxe
Disintegration
Entreat
Mixed Up
Wish
Show (2 – CD)
Paris
Wild Mood Swings
Five Swing Live
Galore
Bloodflowers
Greatest Hits
Join the Dots (two different formats)
The Cure
Sessions at AOL
4:13 Dream

Vinyl 7"

Killing an Arab (Small Wonder)
Killing an Arab (Fiction)
Boys Don´t Cry
Jumping Someone Else´s Train
I´m A Cult Hero
A Forest
Primary
Charlotte Sometimes
The Hanging Garden (Fics 15 and Ficg 15)
Let´s Go to Bed
The Walk (Fics 18 and Ficsp 18)
The Love Cats (Fics 19 and Ficsp 19)
The Caterpillar Fics 20 and Ficsp 20)
In Between Days
Close to Me (Fics 23 and Ficsg 23)
Boys Don´t Cry
Let´s Go to Bed (new voice, Electra)
Why Can´t I Be You? (Fics 25 and Ficsg 25)
Catch (Fics 26 and Ficsp 26)
Just Like Heaven (Fics 27 and Ficsp 27)
Hot Hot Hot!!! (Electra)
Lullaby (Fics 29 and Ficsg 29 and Electra)
Lovesong (Fics 30 and Ficsg 30)
Pictures of You
Never Enough
Close to Me
High
Friday I´m in Love
A Letter to Elise

Vinyl 10"

The Hanging Garden (German)
Half an Octopus

Vinyl 12"

A Forest
Primary
Charlotte Sometimes (Fiction and Metronome)
Let´s Go to Bed (Fiction, Metronome and Sire)
The Walk (Fiction and Metronome)
The Love Cats
The Caterpillar (Fiction and Polydor)
In Between Days
Close to Me
Boys Don´t Cry
Why Can´t I Be You?
Catch (Ficsx 26 and Ficse 26)
Just Like Heaven (Ficsx 28 and Electra)
Hot Hot Hot!!!
Lullaby (Ficsx 29 and Ficvx 29 and Electra)
Fascination Street (Electra)
Lovesong
Pictures of You (Ficxa 34 and Ficda 34)
Never Enough
Close to Me
High (Black and Clear vinyl, both Ficsx 39)
Friday I´m in Love
A Letter to Elise

CD singles

Lovesong (4 tracks)
Pictures of You (5 tracks)
Never Enough
Friday I´m in Love
Gone! (4 tracks)
Mint Car (2 tracks)
Mint Car (4 tracks)
The 13th (1 track promo)
The 13th (4 tracks)
The 13th (3 tracks)
Strange Attraction (5 tracks)
Wrong Number (4 tracks)
Wrong Number (3 tracks)
Wrong Number (2 tracks)
Cut Here
The End of the World (2 tracks)
The End of the World (3 tracks)
Taking Off
The Only One
Freakshow
Sleep When I´m Dead
The Perfect Boy
Hypnagogic States

Cassettes

Seventeen Seconds
Concert/Curiosity
Standing on A Beach
Lost Wishes

Concerts

30 different radio transmissions from 1979 – 2001

Bootlegs

A scarce few but they are all of good sound quality.

Post Cards

A couple hundreds

Stickers

A few nice ones

Books

"The Cure" by Jo-Ann Greene
"Ten Imaginary Years" by Sutherland, Smith

Comics

"Rock n Roll Comics" # 30, july 1991

Badges

A bunch of sweeties

Road Signs

A beautiful one that says Facsination st in New York style
























Title: Re: What all do you own by The Cure?
Post by: othervoices on December 05, 2008, 23:50:06
I think my most prized possesion (and most costly!!) is the 12" promo of grinding halt/meathook - traded a 7" clear disc of Queen's invisable man (- that I found in a papershop for 25 gb pence!)

What are the chances of meathook making the old school encore!!! (nil).  :lol:

I'd thoroughly recommend "the cure on record" as a bible for collecting early releases, has excellent detail.
Title: Re: What all do you own by The Cure?
Post by: japanesebaby on December 06, 2008, 00:00:32
i was just reminded by some older threads a bit similar/related to this one here:

Does anyone have Cure albums from the 80's? (http://curefans.com/index.php/topic,4056.0.html)

   
what's your beloved Cure disc in your collection?  (http://curefans.com/index.php/topic,479.0.html)


Quote from: othervoices on December 05, 2008, 23:50:06
I'd thoroughly recommend "the cure on record" as a bible for collecting early releases, has excellent detail.

a good book - although never got updated past 1994, sadly.

by the way a thread for that book (and other discography books) here:
http://curefans.com/index.php/topic,3846.0.html
Title: Re: What all do you own by The Cure?
Post by: fiction on December 06, 2008, 00:12:34
I think my most prized possesion (and most costly!!) is the 12" promo of grinding halt/meathook - traded a 7" clear disc of Queen's invisable man (- that I found in a papershop for 25 gb pence!)

That´s a nice price! Last time I saw it was 1993 and then the price was around £50. sadly to say I didn´t buy it.

Title: Re: What all do you own by The Cure?
Post by: japanesebaby on December 06, 2008, 00:15:45
Quote from: fiction on December 06, 2008, 00:12:34
Last time I saw it was 1993 and then the price was around £50. sadly to say I didn´t buy it.

if i remember right, i think i saw one copy up here, not long ago:
http://curefans.com/index.php/topic,5774.0.html

not sure if it was sold(?). perhaps you can ask the seller.

i've seen it up on ebay every now and then, not often but a few times now and then, if you just keep watching the site for a while.
i don't collect official releases anymore so i've never bid on those though. 
Title: Re: What all do you own by The Cure?
Post by: fiction on December 06, 2008, 00:22:17
[if i remember right, i think i saw one copy up here, not long ago:
http://curefans.com/index.php/topic,5774.0.html

not sure if it was sold(?). perhaps you can ask the seller.

Thanx. Didn´t find it there though. I´m a bit doubtful buying over the Net anyway and when I said "last saw it", I ment that I really saw it. At a record sale here in Uppsala.
Title: Re: What all do you own by The Cure?
Post by: fiction on December 06, 2008, 10:37:10


I'd thoroughly recommend "the cure on record" as a bible for collecting early releases, has excellent detail.

I Don´t know that book but there are from time to time good sections in Record Collector. When it comes to early stuff, the issues # 167, 168 and 169 from 1993 is as good as gold.