Started by revolt, September 10, 2008, 11:04:35
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Quote from: japanesebaby on September 13, 2008, 16:50:27talking about the cure vs. U2 and remixes: at most times U2 seems to have had decent eye for choosing people to remix them. something that the cure can't seem to accomplish. for instance, on 'vertigo' they asked people like trent:http://www.discogs.com/release/394518beats some fall out kids 6-0.
Quote from: revolt on September 15, 2008, 14:05:38Well, that Trent remix seems to have been released only as a limited 12" promo - stuff only for DJs...
Quote from: japanesebaby on October 04, 2008, 17:12:03hmm i've always liked the music of u2 much more than i'd probably wanted to admit. i still do.all in all, at their best times they were a very innovative and original band - musically. they themselves has made it all too easy for people to slag them off simply because of bono's ego - you either love him or you hate him. i try to ignore him and just focus on the music because a lot of their music IS good. ok one must leave out some stuff (like 'rattle and hum' period) but for instance looking at their much better than most of the stuff in the 80s - musically speaking. so in a way, i suppose there was nothing wrong with u2, other than their egos, or should i say their "mission"... but just forget all that and you have some great music there, no question about it. 'war' and 'the unforgettable fire' are a great album. ' so is 'achtung baby'. by the way i remember reading anton corbijn saying somewhere how when he originally was asked to photograph u2 he wasn't too overwhelmed by the idea because he actually used to dislike them then quite a bit. but he admitted that there was probably no other band "that strong". i suppose he meant the look of them, the strength that translated via photography/images. i actually understand his point there very well and to a certain extent i agree with him. there's certain kind of strength in u2 that is pretty rare. and whenever they managed to make that strenght translate through their music, then they were really powerful band indeed, really hard to compete with on their own territory. there was a time when i was bothering myself with the comparisons between them and the cure. i even almost kind of felt that one couldn't really like both of them... which of course was a completely silly. the comparison is useless because they are so different in so many aspects. of course, most of what comes out of bono's mouth is crap - but that doesn't mean their music is crap.
Quote from: revolt on October 06, 2008, 16:59:19When you say "musically" you only mean the music-strictly-speaking, ignoring the lyrics? Because I think many U2 lyrics are specially good. There's a strenght and poetic feeling in them that are somewhat unusual in the rock world. Even with the more or less frequent christian allusions... the thing is, as far as albums go, U2 very rarely commit the mistake of preaching, and I think that's one of the main reasons for their wide artistic and commercial success.
Quote from: Lady on October 06, 2008, 17:08:28 I've always thought Bono was more "poet" than "singer".
Quote from: revolt on October 06, 2008, 18:11:55Quote from: Lady on October 06, 2008, 17:08:28 I've always thought Bono was more "poet" than "singer".But he is and has always been a great singer! Maybe he has been losing a bit of his voice in recent years (he hasn't been so lucky as Robert), but I still think he is one of the best...
Quote from: revolt on October 09, 2008, 16:20:06I've been thinking about this "The Cure and U2 are very different bands, they can't be compared" argument, and actually I have come to the conclusion that these bands have quite a few things IN COMMON.Both of them:- are post-punk / new wave bands;- share musical influences, Joy Division being perhaps the most relevant;- have guitarists with a personal and distinctive style;- have always favoured ensemble playing and "atmosphere" instead of individual showing-off;- started as "alternative" bands and later achieved great mainstream success;- issued live albums relatively early in their career, before the phase of huge success;- have careers that in musical terms can clearly be divided in "80's era" and "post-80's era";- have never been very good at playing versions of other band's music;- have supported social and political causes, such as Amnesty International.