Started by Oneiroman, May 02, 2021, 14:16:12
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Quote from: Oneiroman on May 03, 2021, 16:23:31Well, I'm just old. You would certainly have had a bargain if they played 39 songs. But I don't think I'd pay the ticket prices to see any "major" band these days, even if they played for three days solid. I mean, £1.25 in 1979 would have bought you four pints at the student bar so it was a close run thing when I bought my ticket to see The Cure for the one and only time I have done.
Quote from: Ulrich on May 03, 2021, 17:13:34Thanks for the report (if only more people would tell us about the gigs they went to in the form you talk about the ones you missed!).
Quote from: Ulrich on May 03, 2021, 17:13:34In the beginning, when I first started liking The Cure, I missed a few gigs ('85 and '87 tours), but I was way too young and under-experienced to travel to any shows back then. The one I really do regret missing is the 1989 "Prayer Tour", they played the Rock am See festival among other shows (Munich I think?). Well I got my "happy end" (or was it more like "the start"?) when I saw the band live in Stuttgart 1992. (And more times after that. As reported in various topics.)Another "missed opportunity" for me was their festival appearance at Southside in 2004 - well there was a new album, so I'd hoped for a "normal tour" instead of a festival, but it didn't happen. Last time I saw the band live (so far) in 2016 even (kinda) "made up" for me missing the 1989 shows, simply because they played a lot of "Disintegration" songs (almost the whole album)! :
Quote from: Oneiroman on May 02, 2021, 14:16:12In a previous post I mentioned the fact that I didn't attend many gigs before I was in my mid-twenties, despite being a big music nut. I bought records, listened to the radio, watched bands on TV, and bought music papers but seeing bands live was never a priority, perhaps because I didn't particularly like being around other people!
Quote from: Oneiroman on May 02, 2021, 14:16:12But having researched my favourite acts on the internet during lockdown I could weep when I realise how many opportunities I missed in the late 1970s especially. And I had quite a few chances to see The Cure.
Quote from: Oneiroman on May 02, 2021, 14:16:12This was a seminal night for The Cure. They were stunned by Wire's performance. Robert Smith told Guitar World in June 1996:"It was actually seeing Wire that gave me the idea to follow a different course, to hold out against the punk wave. At the time, it was a lot easier just to play loud and fast, and that was a good night. Everyone went home talking about you. But even then, I felt, "We're gonna go down with the ship if we do that." Seeing Wire pointed out another direction to me. I didn't even especially like Wire - still don't - but this particular performance was just earth-shattering for me. We were supporting them at this small place, like a student thing. We played pretty badly; I was drunk and it was a shambles. We did "10.15" three times and no one really noticed. Then Wire came on, and during the first song about half the audience left. It was the most intense thing I thought I'd ever see - blinding white lights shooting straight into the audience and this incredible wall of noise. But it wasn't like thrash, just ponderous noise. Then they'd stop it and do little quiet bits. I thought it was really excellent.I remember having a big row in the van with the others about it afterwards because they all thought it was shit, and I thought it was immense. That's what I wanted the Cure to do. It took about a year and a half - between going to play with the Banshees, Michael leaving the band, and Simon joining - before I got to the point where I had people around me who understood that as well. Simon got the idea of doing stuff that had lots of power but didn't have to be fast. I think that's really what the difference was. There's some medium-to slow-paced things on Three Imaginary Boys. At the time, you just didn't do that."
Quote from: Oneiroman on May 02, 2021, 14:16:123) 16 June '79. Headliners with Back To Zero and Joy Division as support. This gig was at the local Odeon, but promoted by the university Students' Union (Kent Ents). £1.25 in advance/£1.50 on the door. I did actually attend this one but I missed lots of other bands who played there during my time, such as The Ramones/Talking Heads/Boomtown Rats (less said about the last of those the better) in '77, Blondie, Magazine, XTC and Siouxsie and The Banshees in '78 and Magazine/Simple Minds in '79. I also missed The Rezillos gig...
Quote from: dsanchez on May 03, 2021, 17:28:36I missed the first ever Trilogy concert by The Cure at Vorst National, Brussels on 7th November 2002! I told myself since I already got a ticket to see them in Hamburg, Color Line Arena on 9th November that it should be enough. One of the biggest regrets in my life. In the other hand, the Hamburg show remains as one of the highlights of my life.
Quote from: Oneiroman on May 04, 2021, 17:16:39@SueC I don't know what the price of a ticket to see the Cure would cost now, but a pint would set you back more than ten times the 30p they charged in the (probably subsidised) college bar in my time.
Quote from: Oneiroman on May 04, 2021, 17:16:39And while we're on the subject of beer I found it terribly confusing in Australia where the names for the different sizes of glasses varied from state to state. A middy in Perth was a schooner in Adelaide and a pot in Melbourne. And don't even mention the Darwin stubby!
Quote from: Oneiroman on May 04, 2021, 17:16:39Some of the pubs I ventured into could be pretty intimidating but I can't remember any serious violence even when most of the clientele were totally paralytic - perhaps that's why, as they just couldn't stop falling over. During my time in the Kimberley the most notorious mob were the donkey shooters who would come into Broome to let their hair down. Feral donkeys were considered a major problem in the area and Mad Max types used to roar around on motorbikes shooting as many as they could. Broome was also full of "mung beans" - do they still call them that in Australia? - so you can imagine the two groups didn't mix too well.
Quote from: Oneiroman on May 04, 2021, 17:16:39To be honest I quite liked a confrontational gig - I can't stand the crowd-pleasing antics of some rock stars and am allergic to arm waving, fist pumping, fan worship and the rest of it.
Quote from: Oneiroman on May 04, 2021, 17:16:39One quick story. My mate Sid used to drive us to a lot of gigs, which was very handy, and I'd buy him a drink in return. On one occasion he couldn't find a place to park so he told me to go into the venue (the International) and get a round in. While I was waiting at the bar a middle aged guy came up to me and asked me what I was drinking. As I thought he was trying to pick me up I nearly told him to, er, push off but managed to restrain myself and tersely muttered "a pint of bitter". He turned to the barman and said "a free pint for this gentleman." When Sid came in I pointed to the guy and he said "oh, that's Gareth, he runs the club."
Quote from: Oneiroman on May 04, 2021, 17:16:39The Cure are one of the few bands from the era in my opinion that have remained fresh in terms of their performances. But I still wouldn't pay big money to see them - they headlined Glastonbury a couple of years ago, which is about twenty miles from where I live, but you wouldn't catch me there if they paid me £200 and not vice-versa. All that arm waving and compulsory happiness not to mention the camping and the mud. No thanks.
Quote from: Oneiroman on May 05, 2021, 20:27:58@SueC The ticket price for Glastonbury 2019 was £248.00 for the four days of the event - as well as The Cure you could have seen Stormzy, The Killers, Kylie Minogue, Miley Cyrus and many others.
Quote from: Oneiroman on May 05, 2021, 20:27:58But I had my fill of living in a tent when I was in Australia as I probably spent the best part of a year in one. It was dirt cheap in those days to stay in a caravan park/campsite and you had access to showers and laundry facilities and even catering in some of them.
Quote from: Oneiroman on May 05, 2021, 20:27:58A long, lonely walk if you couldn't get a ride, especially at night (no lighting). One evening I was walking back when a car pulled up as if to give me a lift, but a bloke stuck his head out and shouted "Why don't you piss on the road and surf on it?" before the vehicle sped off.
Quote from: Oneiroman on May 05, 2021, 20:27:58Talking of Broome I had to laugh when I read about the exploits of one tourist. "On 12 July 2010, Michael Newman, a visitor from Melbourne, climbed into Fatso's enclosure in Malcolm Douglas Crocodile Park near Broome, Western Australia. Newman, who was ejected from a nearby pub called Divers Tavern earlier that night for being overly drunk, scaled the barbed wire fence surrounding Fatso's enclosure and attempted to sit on the crocodile's back. Fatso bit Newman on his right leg, and Newman subsequently escaped the enclosure and returned to Divers Tavern. Mark Phillips, the manager of the pub, noted that Newman had pieces of tree bark hanging off him and chunks of flesh missing from his leg. Newman was given a beer and ordered an ambulance, and was taken to Broome Hospital, where he received dozens of stitches to his leg. Malcolm Douglas, then-owner of the Crocodile Park, called Newman "fortunate", stating that "Fatso was a bit more sluggish than normal, due to the cooler nights we have been experiencing in Broome. If it had been warmer and Fatso was more alert, we would have been dealing with a fatality."
Quote from: Oneiroman on May 05, 2021, 20:27:58I see a buffalo hunter offering hunting trips to wealthy tourists. Personally I'd rather shoot the tourists.
Quote from: Oneiroman on May 05, 2021, 20:27:58When I said I didn't encounter any violence on my travels I completely forgot that I was punched three or four times in the eye at a party in Fitzroy, Melbourne after I protested to some bloke that he was being unfriendly (in a somewhat blunt way) because he told me to get lost when I tried to start a conversation. I ended up in the Royal Victorian Eye & Ear for a couple of days.
Quote from: Oneiroman on May 05, 2021, 20:27:58Actually without wishing to give offence to anyone Melbourne was the one place I visited where I did feel uneasy at times. I had to meet a friend at a pub in Essendon, and arrived a long time before he did. Not an experience I'd care to repeat. A bloke dropped dead in front of me in Footscray. Someone I befriended broke his ankle trying to swing on a pub sign.
Quote from: Oneiroman on May 05, 2021, 20:27:58And worst of all my visit (during my second trip to Australia in 1985) coincided with the launch of Neighbours.
Quote from: SueC on May 05, 2021, 07:36:03We need to ask Ulrich to calculate the price of the average Cure ticket since the turn of the millennium in beer equivalent units (BEUs).