Quote from: japanesebaby on January 24, 2008, 21:17:48
it might be good to remember that including lots of pics (especially large pics) in your message body can considerably slow down the uploading of that whole page. and for people viewing the site with slower connection than you this might become troublesome. so it often might be better to use attachment option for any larger images/for several images.
Yes. Including pics in the messages itself is not recommended, as it would turn our site into a kind of myspace community.
-For including relevant pictures you have the attach option
-For including non-relevant pictures, you may post a link to the picture
-For including pictures of you, or The Cure gigs you're planning to go, the
gallery is the best option.
The above recommendations are not Curefans.com official rules, but it's my opinion about how things should be. Just my opinion :roll:
I take the oppportunity to encourage the people having huge images on their signatures to remove them (this is my personal opinion). The site should be as fast and "clean" as possible. A one or 2 text-line of signature is advisable.
Oh, oops...I think we all do that at the moment.
At least in the "create a band" thread...most often. :)
Sorry David.
I feel a bit guilty now... :oops:
I just used the insert image icon & bingo it worked.
For those I slowed down the site for, I apologise... :cry:
A small one like mine is okay? :?:
Sorry I didn't know :oops:
Quote from: Steve on January 25, 2008, 19:28:58
For those I slowed down the site for, I apologise... :cry:
Do not worry, actually if the image is hosted in another server, it does not affect the site bandwith. Personally I just complain if there's an excesive use of images in posts, or if the user's signatures have a HUUUUGE image :roll:
Quote from: rubcure on January 25, 2008, 20:55:19
A small one like mine is okay? :?:
If you ask for my opinion, the "...and the way the rain comes down hard is how i feel inside..." would be nice enough in your signature :D
Okay, I am sorry about the giant signature thing...I had no idea it would make things not work right...very sorry.
I will shrink it in size, will that make it better? :?
well, i'd be all pro "text-only" signatures, like david suggested above.
and just because it makes the forum a lot cleaner and sharper looking and a lot less like a mine field of advertisement or something.
it's a lot easier to read the forum when there's no extra decorations here and there. after all, everyone has an avatar anyway so there's a possibility to choose a pic of your choice anyway. and want more pics?: posting a text link to your myspace might really be a good idea.
Quote from: Carnage Visor on January 25, 2008, 22:33:06
I will shrink it in size, will that make it better? :?
"A freshly squashed fly, You mean nothing..." text alone, and without image, would be just perfect.
Sorry to sound rude, but I'm not getting rid of my siggy pic for no one. It has special meaning to me. :-D
Quote from: iwannashagsimon on January 26, 2008, 01:17:27
Sorry to sound rude, but I'm not getting rid of my siggy pic for no one. It has special meaning to me. :-D
But your signature has the exact dimensions for an avatar. Wouldn't be better for your avatar instead? :D
Yeah, but my avi's got many Simons in it. And lots of Simons are fine by me. :smth023
Now I've changed my signature (no more images) :-D just a little move
:smth100 do you know how could I make it a little slower?
P.S. iwannashagsimon You are really in love of Simon. :D
Quote from: iwannashagsimon on January 26, 2008, 08:28:27
Yeah, but my avi's got many Simons in it. :smth023
do you mean you can't use it as an avatar because the file is too big and it's rejected? in that case i don't know what you mean because for instance my animated avatar is a larger file than your simon animation. so if my avatar doesn't have too many roberts then i don't think the problem could be that your animation has too many simons.
besides: my avatar has 33 frames and it's 204 KBs in size - works ok. your simon animation only has 24 frames and it 132 KBs in total size. :?:
the only difference is that my avatar's 100 x 76 pixels, your simon is 149 x 133. if 149 is the source of the problem, then just resize every frame in your animation something slightly smaller and try again. anyway it should work as an avatar, i see no reason why it shouldn't.
just try it!
(
2000th post :smth095)
Quote from: iwannashagsimon on January 26, 2008, 01:17:27
Sorry to sound rude, but I'm not getting rid of my siggy pic for no one. It has special meaning to me. :-D
i like the siggy pic iwannashagsimon!! :P
just wondering should I need to change my signature cos it has more than 2 lines? :?
Quote from: japanesebaby on January 26, 2008, 09:21:44
Quote from: iwannashagsimon on January 26, 2008, 08:28:27
Yeah, but my avi's got many Simons in it. :smth023
do you mean you can't use it as an avatar because the file is too big and it's rejected?
No, I mean as in my avatar has 3 Simon's in it. I call it my avi for short. :-D
Quote from: rubcure on January 26, 2008, 08:41:33
P.S. iwannashagsimon You are really in love of Simon. :D
Love? Ah.....lust more likely. ;)
@iwannashagsimon... PLEASE don't change it!! Now that I can see animations, I am entranced and love it even more.. call it lust if u may .. :oops: :smth049
Quote from: iwannashagsimon on January 26, 2008, 14:32:43
Quote from: japanesebaby on January 26, 2008, 09:21:44
Quote from: iwannashagsimon on January 26, 2008, 08:28:27
Yeah, but my avi's got many Simons in it. :smth023
do you mean you can't use it as an avatar because the file is too big and it's rejected?
No, I mean as in my avatar has 3 Simon's in it. I call it my avi for short. :-D
ok... but then i don't see what the problem with using your signature animation as your avatar might be? :?:
just try it the way david suggested...?
and seriously guys: hey i also admit i'm very attached to my avatar too, i've had it for the longest time here. i don't feel like changing it. but lately i've even considered removing the animation from it because i do know some people with slow connections find moving images really annoying because it does seriously slow down loading the pages. so i'd have no problem taking mine down if it helped someone to view the site better. so i don't think i or david or anyone wants to be a bunch of "let's forbid this or that!" sort of smartass here or anything, but we just do think our purpose is to offer interesting forum/interesting reading to all our users, that's where the priorities are. and at least i know that if i had to be on a really slow connection, i'd certainly find it really annoying if i had to wait every single page to load for a longer time JUST because of some repeated images like avatars, signatures etc.. if i had to wait because of something in the true message content, then it's different. but these things really don't add anything to the forum/message content.
so i'd just ask everyone to consider this viewpoint too, before getting overly emotional over something here.
just trying to find some solutions for everyone here...:
one solution for people very fond of posting pics: why not open up a curefans blog for it? :smth023
i think that is a a good way to enhance your profile here, to focus on your particular interests (because after all, there's nothing wrong with that for sure :)).
then post a link to your blog as your signature, add a hint there whenever you've done updates!
then nobody had to feel being limited/confined here on the forum but at the same time we could keep the forum more readable and free from lots of unnecessary and repeated images.
how about that? :D
besides, i think it would be cool if more people would start using the blog option anyway - we could really develop this and create more community-like atmosphere in the blog section too.
check it out!
http://curefans.com/index.php/topic,3304.0.html
I'm with Marika in all what she wrote.
I found an interesting opinion (http://forums.ilounge.com/archive/index.php/t-31620.html) from a non-cure related about signatures, to take in consideration. I highlight the things which I agree with ;)
"Don't you guys think the signatures are getting out of hand? Everyone and their mother, dog, and cat has one. When you scroll through a thread, sometimes the signatures take up more lines/space on the screen than the actual messages. And then there are those annoying signatures with pictures and big ugly banners. I'm on a 1280x1024 screen and they're huge. At 1440x1050 it's not so bad.
And the signatures are all lame. No offense to anyone specifically as I don't really pay much attention to them or who has them....But, who gives a rat's arse what iPod you have and what song you're playing and what your PC is and what your Mac is and what OS you're running and what CPU is and how much memory you have and how big your hard drive is and what kind of monitor you have and what your middle name is and where you were born and what you do for a living and what school you go to and what case you have your ipod in and what headphones you use and what color your case is and what other accessories you have and what games you play and how many songs you have and how many days that is and how long you can play all your great songs until you reach the end."
"Just turn them off in the prefs. Be annoyed no more."
a quote from the link you posted David. .. If it is the way, then do it.
Quote from: dsanchez on January 26, 2008, 15:47:25
"Don't you guys think the signatures are getting out of hand? Everyone and their mother, dog, and cat has one. When you scroll through a thread, sometimes the signatures take up more lines/space on the screen than the actual messages. And then there are those annoying signatures with pictures and big ugly banners. I'm on a 1280x1024 screen and they're huge. At 1440x1050 it's not so bad.
And the signatures are all lame. No offense to anyone specifically as I don't really pay much attention to them or who has them....But, who gives a rat's arse what iPod you have and what song you're playing and what your PC is and what your Mac is and what OS you're running and what CPU is and how much memory you have and how big your hard drive is and what kind of monitor you have and what your middle name is and where you were born and what you do for a living and what school you go to and what case you have your ipod in and what headphones you use and what color your case is and what other accessories you have and what games you play and how many songs you have and how many days that is and how long you can play all your great songs until you reach the end."
the rest I find a bit offensive, I'm not sure if this is your attitude ? or a quote from the same source?
"rat's arse" ??
I do not aplogise for the fact that I find this updated content of this split subject a bit worrying.
I agree with marika that maybe it would be more useful to utilise the " blog" option available, but for some, advertising oneself is just not an option.
I speak here only in my own experience, that a blog about myself is the last thing I could do, not only for the skills required, but also, a breach of confidentiality as well as privacy.
I agree on the point that the bigger the banner, or picture uploaded to the forum creates delays. Fortunately I have a broadband connection, but still find this site down often.
I cannot understand what is the intention of this topic? :smth100
Quote from: dsanchez on January 26, 2008, 15:47:25
sometimes the signatures take up more lines/space on the screen than the actual messages. And then there are those annoying signatures with pictures and big ugly banners.
David, apologies.. I finally read your post through again.. sorry... I am not really concentrating. I see the fact that you have underlined the post that you feel aligned with. I am sorry if I misinterpreted this.. ( I find it extremely hard to read long posts without the words blurring!! :smth023)
Quote from: japanesebaby on January 26, 2008, 14:56:03
i think it would be cool if more people would start using the blog option anyway - we could really develop this and create more community-like atmosphere in the blog section too.
check it out!
http://curefans.com/index.php/topic,3304.0.html
:smth023
I've been meaning to get my blog up and running. Not trying to copy you or anything, but something similar to what you and lacrima mosa are doing is what I have in mind. Posting about shows you've seen is pretty interesting and also a great way to hear about bands that maybe you never knew of. Of course now I'm not seeing much as I don't want to get burnt out before The Cure's tour :roll: Though I guess this should open up some free time to blog. Yeah, blog baby blog :-D
Quote from: japanesebaby on January 26, 2008, 14:42:21
ok... but then i don't see what the problem with using your signature animation as your avatar might be? :?:
There's no problem. I just don't want to.
In regards to the "blog" section of the Curefans forum, it is difficult to find, unless using the 'search' option.
Maybe this 'blog' function ( which really hasn't been updated by those who currently have blogs), could be easier and more visible from the heading options, E.G. where we can find the Gallery, Calendar, Map etc.. ?
just a thought.
It may just streamline acces to this option, and increase interest?
Good point Lara
I am, however, of the opinion that the signatures do get a little OTT at times.
I think that the posts should do the talking really.
:smth023 I do agree on this . some can take up more space than what the content of the post does. OTT .
so are you gonna shrink yours down to 2 lines, ? hmmm :smth020
Well thanks...I work really hard on my banners. Great to know they're "Ugly" and "crap"...
Everyone has their own way of expressing themselves. You could have gotten your point across a bit better without insulting people's taste. I liked my Kate Bush banner, thank you, and I think it expressed alot of what I am...a gentle person.
I understand that it can be a neusance to have the photos cloggign up bandwidth, but to trash talk us about it, is just unfair.
I had no idea it was angering anyone. If you guys had told me earlier, I would have taken it off and replaced it with a boring quote or something.
I never like causing controversy...
Quote from: Carnage Visor on January 26, 2008, 19:26:36
Well thanks...I work really hard on my banners. Great to know they're "Ugly" and "crap"...
Oh, come on now, david was quoting someone else's opinion on signatures from another forum, if I understood correctly. Nobody was referring specifically to your banner as "ugly" and "crap". Don't get mad. :smth062 :smth039
Yeah, CV. Please don't take it personally. You had a great banner!! Aaaah, it's not even worth getting upset over. :smth001
Don't know if it was necessary, but I modified my signature, too!
No matter if I can't use images... I just can't give up on colourful signatures!!! :-D
Quote from: scatcat on January 26, 2008, 17:55:42
so are you gonna shrink yours down to 2 lines, ? hmmm :smth020
Got it down to 4, but there's no big banner or picture or moving graphics & things. :oops: ;)
Quote from: scatcat on January 26, 2008, 16:29:00
I agree with marika that maybe it would be more useful to utilise the " blog" option available, but for some, advertising oneself is just not an option.
I speak here only in my own experience, that a blog about myself is the last thing I could do, not only for the skills required, but also, a breach of confidentiality as well as privacy.
about advertising: i personally think that signatures are a lot more advert-like than blogs - not just here but elsewhere in the web too. that's because signatures are simply repeated messages (like adverts). blogs are something that are "alive" (at least at their best! mine might be a bit dead sometimes haha ;)). and of course it's possible to put up an annoyingly advert-like blog too, but i really don't see anything advert like in the concept of having a blog. it depends on what you put there, how you run it.
but signatures really can't be very versatile, to me
they are just adverts, basically.
i am maybe not quite sure what you mean about "a breach of confidentiality" and "privacy" there: maybe i read you wrong....(?). anyway. i don't think blogs as such are something that would "encourage" anyone to post anything really personal/anything that might compromise their privacy. because it's all your own choice, what you choose to post there. :!:
having a blog doesn't mean you have to write about yourself at all. hey you can write about your neighbor if you want! ;P
for instance, i do have a blog but i have absolutely no intention/interest to write anything about myself/my life/what happend to me today etc. etc. (although that's not because i was afraid of my privacy but mostly just because i'd just find it totally boring for anyone to read...).
i only write about music/gigs i've seen/etc., nothing else. that's my choice. and i don't feel i am compromising my private information there at all.
(or maybe i misread you... please correct me if i did!)
so with blogs, you can always create it yourself and choose what to post in there, there are no limits to imagination....
and no-one's forcing anyone to write about anything in particular - hey it can be totally non-cure related too. imagination's your friend.... and we all have it! :smth023
Quote from: scatcat on January 26, 2008, 17:47:00
In regards to the "blog" section of the Curefans forum, it is difficult to find, unless using the 'search' option.
Maybe this 'blog' function ( which really hasn't been updated by those who currently have blogs), could be easier and more visible from the heading options, E.G. where we can find the Gallery, Calendar, Map etc.. ?
just a thought.
It may just streamline acces to this option, and increase interest?
about this i totally agree: the blog section is just way too hard to find at the moment. :!: so people just don't find it unless they already have it bookmarked or something. that's not good enough!
like scatcat suggested, i think we could/should have a direct link somewhere in the home site, next to gallery/calendar/map etc.
i would really encourage people to develop their blogs because i'm sure many interesting "little worlds" could be created this way... but we do need more
visibility first!! :!:
and @ CV - like said above... why do you always take things so personally here? you know, it's starting to make me really disappointed sometimes, to read it over and over again here, like nothing ever changed... i mean, whatever we try to say to you here, it doesn't seem to mean anything to you or have no effect... you just don't seem to believe us... :roll:
it does make me sad a lot of times.
because if you check the thread above you can see that NOBODY mentioned YOU and nobody here said your banners are "crap". so actually i'm afraid it was just you yourself who said that about yourself, no-one else said it...
so again (and no offense to you) but... please don't put words to other people's mouth... ok?
i get really tired sometimes, sorry but i do.
Quote from: iwannashagsimon on January 26, 2008, 17:27:57
Quote from: japanesebaby on January 26, 2008, 14:42:21
ok... but then i don't see what the problem with using your signature animation as your avatar might be? :?:
There's no problem. I just don't want to.
in all, let's not get so emotional here, people!
how about trying to think it this way:
yes, there's been a lot of creativity visible in many members banners/signatures - and we do not want to disencourage anyone's creativity here, not at all.
nobody here said it was a bad thing - just that it's maybe not ideally placed/located at the moment. we want to make this place look as good as possible and so in this respect we've come to think that we could do much better, maybe.
please try to see that:
- loading your signature with big files can considerably slow the site down = true.
- it can make things drag here = true.
- it adds visual advert-like clatter to the board and at the same time diminishes general readability because people reading the comments have to hop over repeated signatures every once in a while = true.
we would like to offer a streamlined, easy-to-read-through forum for all our readers. :!:
so why not try to think of something that benefits everyone and does NOT put down anyone's creativity, ok?
besides, since the space/volume deserved for signatures is going to be very limited anyway, wouldn't it be actually a lot better if there were more space to carry out the creativity in us? and that's where the blogs can offer everyone a nice little corner, where to experiment, post pics, thoughs, art, writings, whatever it is that we do!
blogs are easy to put up, easy to maintain once you get into it. and people already into it can always give advice to those who are just getting into it for the first time, no problem.
Quote from: Carnage Visor on January 26, 2008, 19:26:36
Well thanks...I work really hard on my banners. Great to know they're "Ugly" and "crap"...
I wasnt refering to anyone in particular, and if you notice, there's more people in this forum who use images in banners besides you. Also check my post above. I didn't write anything there, but just highlighted the things I agree with. So take it easy man, there's nothing personal with you!
Quote from: scatcat on January 26, 2008, 17:08:37
Quote from: dsanchez on January 26, 2008, 15:47:25
sometimes the signatures take up more lines/space on the screen than the actual messages. And then there are those annoying signatures with pictures and big ugly banners.
David, apologies.. I finally read your post through again.. sorry...
No problem. Personally, what bothers me more is the fact that "sometimes the signatures take up more lines/space on the screen than the actual messages", and this is a consequence of a huge banner (despite if it's well designed or not).
Quote from: japanesebaby on January 27, 2008, 00:03:31
having a blog doesn't mean you have to write about yourself at all. hey you can write about your neighbor if you want! ;P
for instance, i do have a blog but i have absolutely no intention/interest to write anything about myself/my life/what happend to me today etc. etc. (although that's not because i was afraid of my privacy but mostly just because i'd just find it totally boring for anyone to read...).
i only write about music/gigs i've seen/etc., nothing else. that's my choice. and i don't feel i am compromising my private information there at all.
(or maybe i misread you... please correct me if i did!)
so with blogs, you can always create it yourself and choose what to post in there, there are no limits to imagination....
and no-one's forcing anyone to write about anything in particular - hey it can be totally non-cure related too. imagination's your friend.... and we all have it! :smth023
thanks, I understand more now about 'blogs'.. I assumed it was more like a personal diary. But your explanation makes it clearer :smth023
Quote from: japanesebaby on January 26, 2008, 14:42:21
in all, let's not get so emotional here, people!
how about trying to think it this way:
yes, there's been a lot of creativity visible in many members banners/signatures - and we do not want to disencourage anyone's creativity here, not at all. nobody here said it was a bad thing - just that it's maybe not ideally placed/located at the moment. we want to make this place look as good as possible and so in this respect we've come to think that we could do much better, maybe.
please try to see that:
- loading your signature with big files can considerably slow the site down = true.
- it can make things drag here = true.
- it adds visual advert-like clatter to the board and at the same time diminishes general readability because people reading the comments have to hop over repeated signatures every once in a while = true.
we would like to offer a streamlined, easy-to-read-through forum for all our readers. :!:
so why not try to think of something that benefits everyone and does NOT put down anyone's creativity, ok?
besides, since the space/volume deserved for signatures is going to be very limited anyway, wouldn't it be actually a lot better if there were more space to carry out the creativity in us? and that's where the blogs can offer everyone a nice little corner, where to experiment, post pics, thoughs, art, writings, whatever it is that we do!
blogs are easy to put up, easy to maintain once you get into it. and people already into it can always give advice to those who are just getting into it for the first time, no problem.
I give up. I changed it.
Speaking of blogs. I do have one, but I dunno what to put in it! So thus it is crap. Here's the link so you can see what I mean:
http://iwannashagsimon.livejournal.com (http://iwannashagsimon.livejournal.com)
"Fat boy Smith"?? you referring to Robert I assume??!! tut tut... :smth017
I wouldn't even know how to "make" a blog, don't think I would be that interested honestly...but it's a good idea for those who enjoy doing that sort of thing! I'll just stay with what I know, I think .......I heard that!!! (*whisperings* that's not much, is it?.... ) :smth019 :smth048
:-D
My signature is OK!
I don't change, don't have images, but always signature.
Quote from: disintegration on January 27, 2008, 10:28:04
My signature is OK!
I don't change, don't have images, but always signature.
disintegration.. I'm gonna miss seeeing the flag :!:
Quote from: scatcat on January 27, 2008, 10:40:53
Quote from: disintegration on January 27, 2008, 10:28:04
My signature is OK!
I don't change, don't have images, but always signature.
disintegration.. I'm gonna miss seeeing the flag :!:
Me, too.... :cry:
Quote from: scatcat on January 27, 2008, 10:40:53
Quote from: disintegration on January 27, 2008, 10:28:04
My signature is OK!
I don't change, don't have images, but always signature.
disintegration.. I'm gonna miss seeeing the flag :!:
Eheh, scatcat if you knew disi, you'd change your mind...he's a maniac of "ternana"!!!!He always nags me with it...after years I'm "a little sick"!!!! :-D ;)
:smth081 now the cure for you... :smth023 salute to you in his signature :-D
Quote from: melly on January 27, 2008, 07:23:08
"Fat boy Smith"?? you referring to Robert I assume??!! tut tut... :smth017
Of course! :-D
@iwannshagsimon.. really glad u kept my fav simon signature, albeit, now ur new avatar!! :lol:
Quote from: disintegration on January 27, 2008, 11:17:32
disintegration.. I'm gonna miss seeeing the flag :!:
This might sound contradictory but personally disintegration's flag didn't bother me at all. It was small and with no animation. My complain was specially addressed for those huge banners and/or animated signatures...
Quote from: scatcat on January 27, 2008, 13:22:55
@iwannshagsimon.. really glad u kept my fav simon signature, albeit, now ur new avatar!! :lol:
Glad you like it! That anime and quote just go perfect together. And it's not very often that happens!
I removed mine.
And feel free to delete my two art threads, if this is causing a problem.
Quote from: Cure Freak on January 31, 2008, 02:27:30
And feel free to delete my two art threads, if this is causing a problem.
noooOO .. i don't think tis is causing any probs.. :smth023
Your art is cool :rocker
Quote from: Cure Freak on January 31, 2008, 02:27:30
And feel free to delete my two art threads, if this is causing a problem.
no, i don't think anyone here wanted to delete anything like that.
if i was suggesting anything in one of my posts above, i simply meant that from now on it would be more practical if people used the attachment option when including any larger pics/files to their posts.
:D
-- just in relation to the 'blog' section.. is it going to be a part of the index feature, so we can access it and maybe start to set things up?
(forgive me if i post in the wrong section!)
I am quite interested in this.. since learning more.. :smth023
Quote from: scatcat on February 05, 2008, 16:53:13
Quote from: Cure Freak on January 31, 2008, 02:27:30
And feel free to delete my two art threads, if this is causing a problem.
noooOO .. i don't think tis is causing any probs.. :smth023
Your art is cool :rocker
Just wanted to make sure and thank you. ;)
japanesebaby ~ I understand. I will use atttachments when I post anymore art.
Well, everything's good now...took away my siggy, changed my avatar...and I'm still fine!
I guess I was overreacting a bit. :lol: