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Offline Bloodflower

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Re: What do you think of Lol?
« Reply #15 on: April 16, 2007, 08:06:05 »
Robert's voice in recent years has been a source of mild depression for me, along with the backing track stuff....
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Re: What do you think of Lol?
« Reply #16 on: April 16, 2007, 14:10:06 »
Robert's voice in recent years has been a source of mild depression for me, along with the backing track stuff....

Absolutely right. His voice has become increasingly annoying, and don't get me started about those idiotic backing tracks!

I think that Lol represented the human factor of The Cure. I think he did a pretty good job as a drummer back then, although Andy and especially Boris were far better. I'd rather see Lol playing the drums instead of Jason, though.

It's obvious that RS wanted to get rid of Lol, he just didn't have the courage to tell him. But the way he treated him when he was still in the band would have driven any of us into alcoholism or worse. Did anyone notice how RS is spitting on Lol's head in the Hot Hot Hot video? I'm sure that wasn't part of the deal, and I always found it disgusting.

It seems to me that Lol's biggest problem was RS. I used to think that he was right with all his Anti-Lol-Propaganda, but now I'm not sure anymore. He is just not the lovable guy his fans think he is. He's a selfish egomaniac, and friendship is a virtue that obviously doesn't rank too high in his personal beliefs. I surely wouldn't turn my back on him ...
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Re: What do you think of Lol?
« Reply #17 on: April 16, 2007, 15:07:09 »
Lol was never much of a musician, but he gave us "Pillbox Tales" (so says Robert in the Join the Dots notes).  His drumming was a huge part of the early-Cure sound, but as I remember reading, Robert and Simon had to teach Lol his parts... so I doubt he even "wrote" the drum bits.  He was good for taking the piss though.
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Re: What do you think of Lol?
« Reply #18 on: April 16, 2007, 15:24:44 »
Oh, and let's not kid ourselves with all this Lol loving/Robert hating shit.  I think Levinhurst is a fine enough band, and can recognize the impact he had on The Cure but for anyone to think The Cure is ANYTHING but Robert's band is just plain blind.  There certainly has been contributing members (Simon definitely comes to mind), but when the day is done it's Robert's decision what the final product is.  You should be happy that a 48-year old man is still making music for you - and doing it much better than other "aging" rock groups (Rolling Stones, New Order, Morrissey, etc).  In fact, outside of Robert Smith and his band of merry men, the only other people from the post-punk period still doing anything worthwhile are Echo & the Bunnymen (who resuscitated a flailing career with the brilliant Siberia album) and Johnny Marr (who, despite working with the croak named Bernard Sumner, has managed to attach himself to Isaac Brock of Modest Mouse - one of this generations more important, impressive and talented songwriters).
The Cure will NEVER make Pornography, or Faith, or Disintegration or even Wish ever again... it just won't happpen.  No one should expect them to, either.  What they are going to do is put out a few more albums (maybe this next one will be the last, who knows) that will be better than 90% of the drivel that is being unwillingly pumped through radio speakers all day long.
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Re: What do you think of Lol?
« Reply #19 on: April 16, 2007, 15:45:22 »
The Cure is ANYTHING but Robert's band is just plain blind.

I know. I just think that The Cure was a lot better when RS had some kind of counter balance, which I think used to be Chris Parry. That might have been the last person on Earth who was able to get RS down to reality. Leaving RS completely alone to his own decisions only makes him more delusional than he already is. I mean, he's slowly becoming the Michael Jackson of goth pop!

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and doing it much better than other "aging" rock groups (Rolling Stones, New Order, Morrissey, etc).

Morrissey has aged better than RS ever will!
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Re: What do you think of Lol?
« Reply #20 on: April 16, 2007, 22:36:15 »

THE CURE WOULD NEVER BE THE BAND YOU LIKE IF ANY OF ALL THOSE PEOPLE NEVER HAD ANY SERIOUS INPUT...

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Re: What do you think of Lol?
« Reply #21 on: April 16, 2007, 22:42:12 »
personally i think it breaks down something like lyrics 95% robert 5% others, and the music about 60% robert, 40% everyone else.


didnt he meet up with lol in 2005?  i now think differently of lol thanks to janko's earlier post. now a full supporter, even if we all did laugh at him  :lol:

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Re: What do you think of Lol?
« Reply #22 on: April 16, 2007, 23:15:43 »


didnt he meet up with lol in 2005?    :lol:



I THINK THEY MET IN LOS ANGELES DURING DREAMTOURWHEN LOL VISITED THE GIG WITH HIS FAMILY OR SOMETHING...

THERE WAS A GREAT PHOTO OF THE TWO CHUBBY MIDDLE AGE GUYS SMILING...

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Re: What do you think of Lol?
« Reply #23 on: April 16, 2007, 23:36:09 »
anyone have this? :) whenever they do finally all it a day it would be awesome if they could get all the former members back together on stage to play an epic version of lullaby or something :D something with alot of layers in it anyway. that would be amazing

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Re: What do you think of Lol?
« Reply #24 on: April 17, 2007, 06:44:07 »
(there were other photos than this too, i just can't find them on my HD now)
anyway, it was in los angeles, 2000.02.19




good that they could meet and look each other in the eye again. 

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Re: What do you think of Lol?
« Reply #25 on: April 17, 2007, 14:09:09 »
The Cure is ANYTHING but Robert's band is just plain blind.

I know. I just think that The Cure was a lot better when RS had some kind of counter balance, which I think used to be Chris Parry. That might have been the last person on Earth who was able to get RS down to reality. Leaving RS completely alone to his own decisions only makes him more delusional than he already is. I mean, he's slowly becoming the Michael Jackson of goth pop!

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You should be happy that a 48-year old man is still making music for you


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and doing it much better than other "aging" rock groups (Rolling Stones, New Order, Morrissey, etc).

Morrissey has aged better than RS ever will!

First - what I meant by making music "for you" was "making music for himself that you can still listen to."
Second - Morrissey has AGED better than Robert, but his music is unlistenable drivel.
Third - It is only when Robert Smith has a vagina for a nose that I will ever call him the Michael Jackson of goth pop.

I don't know - am I the only one who doesn't have a problem with what The Cure are doing?  Sure, sometimes I'm disappointed, but who cares?  I'm not in the damn band - and if it ever got to the point where I felt they were useless (and able to be compared to Michael Jackson) I would just assume FIND ANOTHER BAND!
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Re: What do you think of Lol?
« Reply #26 on: April 17, 2007, 15:12:09 »
Second - Morrissey has AGED better than Robert, but his music is unlistenable drivel.

i totally have to agree. :smth023

Third - It is only when Robert Smith has a vagina for a nose that I will ever call him the Michael Jackson of goth pop.

:smth043

I don't know - am I the only one who doesn't have a problem with what The Cure are doing?  Sure, sometimes I'm disappointed, but who cares?  I'm not in the damn band - and if it ever got to the point where I felt they were useless (and able to be compared to Michael Jackson) I would just assume FIND ANOTHER BAND!

no i don't think you're the only one.
the cure has given us so many great moments, they have been around for long and kept going. of course, not every period was every fan's favorite but still i don't think they ever really sold out or really let their fans down big time. sometimes i'm not totally excited about everything they do either, sure. yet i find myself not too worried about how they'll turn out next or how the next album will be or this or that - yes i am happy if they  put out something i can truly enjoy but i don't lose my sleep over it, nor does it really agitate me. i don't feel "betrayed" - i guess that with all they've done they've managed to convince me, they have credibility that some silly co-performances with korn & co. cannot shake. sure those are silly things for them to do but i can take it because still they never crossed that line that makes people turn into clowns. so i don't have to like their every move but i can skip those that aren't my cup of tea without having to judge them, i don't have to be ashamed - and that's a good sign, a sign of that this artist still cares about what he's doing. their stamina and self-respect is still intact - unlike with people like michael jackson, who are nothing but pointless useless utter clowns.
so i just can't see any kind of similarity between the two. 
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Re: What do you think of Lol?
« Reply #27 on: April 17, 2007, 18:55:57 »
I think Simon has aged better than RS or Morrissey.

Eerily so.

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Re: What do you think of Lol?
« Reply #28 on: April 17, 2007, 21:46:21 »
thanks for finding that picture, anyone got the others?


if the next album is a really good one i hope they just stop and go out with a bang, just concentrating on playing shows. that wont happen though. i wish the stand alone single would come back too (and i dont mean stupid mp3s to download)

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Re: What do you think of Lol?
« Reply #29 on: April 17, 2007, 22:53:55 »
 :-D

COME ON!
THIS IS ABOUT LOL!

IF SOMEBODY SAYS THAT MORRISSEY AGED BETTER OR THAT HE HAS BETTER ALBUM OUTTHERE (WHICH IS TRUE) THAT DOESNT MEAN THAT THE CURE ARE CRAP AND THAT ROBERT LOOKS LIKE SOME OLD GRANNY...

I LIKE THEM BOTH ALMOST EQUALLY AND I HOPE THEY WILL WORK UNTIL THEY DIE!

AND THEN AGAIN MARK E. SMITH IS MORE INOVATIVE THAN MOZ OR BOB AND HE LOOKS GREAT, EVEN IF HE'S TOOTHLESS DRUNK... WHITH MARK THERE IS NO FEAR THAT HE WILL BECOME CRAP ONE DAY!

AND IT IS INTERESTIG HOW SLOWLY BUT SURELY BOTH MORRISSEY AND MARK E. SMITH BECAME BRITISH ICONS WHILE ROBERT STILL DOESNT GET THE MENTION...

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