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Re: Jason Cooper - A study of his style
« Reply #195 on: June 22, 2016, 11:11:12 »
I will just say it, Jason is a borderline mediocre drummer (I think "mediocre" is a bit of a generous term. I meant, let's just say it:  If Jason were to leave the Cure, he would never find another group of such status, just as Perry never will due to their lack og talent relative to Robert, Simon, Roger, Reeves, and many who came before...
I picked out The Hanging Garden video from last Sunday,
only to have a relevant impression and it was, as usual, a
close-up from Robert, at least 90% of the time and not very
instructive.The mood in the band is so well that I can't imagine
a circumstance which favour Jason's booting out, unless the rest
of the group refuse to play with him any longer and that is unlikely.
He is so 'mediocre' to cover a wide range of Cure songs, unlike his
predecessors.I watched him during one of the London shows 2014
and nothing was wrong, not a minute...
Wenn das Spätjahr kommt, werf ich mich in einen
Wagen, ziehe die Decke des Wagenleders hoch zu
meinem Kopf, hülle mich in einen Mantel - so daß nur
meine Augen übrig bleiben, mit denen nach Euch ich
greife.
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Re: Jason Cooper - A study of his style
« Reply #196 on: June 23, 2016, 04:23:00 »
I'm no specialist in drumming technique but that he's musically humdrum and unimaginative, compared to Boris or Andy, who delivered really interesting patterns and thought in long lines, seems unarguable. A drummer for a band like The Cure should be a musician, which he plainly isn't.

Jason isn't the only thing that went wrong with The Cure since their heyday, that's for sure. But having him must've limited Robert's palette as a songwriter: how are you supposed to come up with stuff like Snakepit or The Wailing Wall or If Only Tonight We Could Sleep with a drummer as terminally boring as him? 

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Re: Jason Cooper - A study of his style
« Reply #197 on: June 23, 2016, 19:35:22 »
A drummer for a band like The Cure should be a musician, which he plainly isn't. 
What then? :?
Looking back I think the decision to keep him in the group
was strategic right because it enabled Robert to implement
an open, rotating system for 'Cure musicians' in general and
to avoid the many line-up changes in the past for whatever
reasons.Otherwise we would have encountered never-ending
instability and a quickened decline of The Cure in the Nineties.
You can't reinvent the wheel.
Wenn das Spätjahr kommt, werf ich mich in einen
Wagen, ziehe die Decke des Wagenleders hoch zu
meinem Kopf, hülle mich in einen Mantel - so daß nur
meine Augen übrig bleiben, mit denen nach Euch ich
greife.
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Re: Jason Cooper - A study of his style
« Reply #198 on: June 24, 2016, 09:07:26 »
A drummer for a band like The Cure should be a musician, which he plainly isn't. 
What then? :?

A time-keeper.  ;)
Well, a (good) drummer once said to me: "I'm not a musician, I'm just a drummer".  :lol:

Many band members make an excuse to leave the room, if a drummer says "I've written a song".  :-D
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Re: Jason Cooper - A study of his style
« Reply #199 on: June 24, 2016, 10:02:45 »
A drummer for a band like The Cure should be a musician, which he plainly isn't. 
What then? :?

http://curefans.com/other-artists-48/

From Bach to Cypress Hill, from Debussy to Fella Kuti to Micachu and on and on ad infinitum. The Cure were a genuinely great band in their day yet today they are about as interesting and relevant as Nazareth or Uriah Heep. Tant pis, there are many others.

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A time-keeper.

Not good enough, not for a band with a back catalogue as ridiculously diverse, ambitious and imaginative.


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Re: Jason Cooper - A study of his style
« Reply #200 on: June 27, 2016, 22:42:42 »
Robert had to wait until Jason starts his click track and pre-recorded sh**... watch Robert's reaction






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Re: Jason Cooper - A study of his style
« Reply #201 on: June 28, 2016, 08:49:51 »
Robert had to wait until Jason starts ...

Did he? According to this post (and the following) it is the roadies/technicians who start them?  :?
http://curefans.com/solo-projects/jason-cooper-a-study-of-his-style/msg763535/#msg763535
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Re: Jason Cooper - A study of his style
« Reply #202 on: June 28, 2016, 13:16:39 »
watch Robert's reaction

I did. And I saw Robert in a good mood, smirking, almost laughing. What are you getting at?
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Re: Jason Cooper - A study of his style
« Reply #203 on: June 28, 2016, 14:57:03 »
I did. And I saw Robert in a good mood, smirking, almost laughing. What are you getting at?

He is (mockingly) shaking his head.

"...and the smile, and the shake of his head..."  ;)
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Re: Jason Cooper
« Reply #204 on: July 09, 2016, 00:42:31 »
I miss Boris. I've never warmed to Jason's playing.

 

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