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Re: Siouxsie & the Banshees (feat. Robert Smith)
« Reply #15 on: July 02, 2016, 15:10:47 »
I'll try and find the leaflet ...

I found it online (or at least part of it).

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Re: Siouxsie & the Banshees (feat. Robert Smith)
« Reply #16 on: August 15, 2016, 21:47:45 »
Need to listen to Hyeana; I guess I was always put off by a couple of disparaging remarks made by Robert about the strings etc.

I don't own the Ten Imaginary Years book (oficial Cure bio 1976-1986), but I seem to remember Reading about him not being very satisfied with the keyboards masking his guitar parts a bit too much.

Besides, he didn't get as much credit as he'd like, and that, for a second time, because he wrote or co-wrote at least one song from Kaleidoscope ('Hybrid', and correct me if I'm wrong, but I seem to remember him claiming his involvement in 'Christine').

Here is the studio version of Hybrid (click here to listen).
John McGeoch on guitar.

And here is the studio version of Christine. John McGeoch on guitar as well.
Christine really does sound a lot like a Cure song. Or maybe some Cure songs sound Banshee-like.



I don't know wether Robert had a hand on Christine or not, but it definitely sounds Seventeen Seconds-ish.
Christine is officially a Severin song (Sioux did the B-side, the very gloomy Eve White/Eve Black).
Maybe Severin and Robert were listening to the same music at the time.
But I can clearly imagine Robert singing it.
McGeoch doesn't appear on the video because by then he wasn't a permanent member yet.

Btw, here is a 1982 version of Christine with Robert on guitar (click to listen).

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Re: Siouxsie & the Banshees (feat. Robert Smith)
« Reply #17 on: August 16, 2016, 17:51:56 »
This is not exactly related to the time of Robert's tenure as a Banshee, but here are two more curious coincidences:

Hello I Love You, by Siouxsie solo:





Witchcraft, by The Creatures (on a medley with The Vamp and Standing There):




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Cure/Banshees/Creatures/Glove/Siouxsie combined discography.
« Reply #18 on: August 18, 2016, 20:32:37 »
Here is a combined chronological discography of both bands and their parallel projects, counting all studio, remixes, and live albums, but not counting live videos (excepting Siouxsie's Dreamshow and The Cure's In Orange and Trilogy, which are counted given their exceptionality) or singles/greatest hits compilations (excepting The Cure's Japanese Whispers, which is counted as a studio album).

I've separated each band by a different color (The Cure in green, The Banshees in red, The Glove in blue, The Creatures in orange, Cult Hero in brown, Siouxsie in pink), albums go in capitals, Banshees recordings with Robert being credited as a player are marked thus (+), and Banshees recordings released under Robert's two tenures are underlined (regardless of Robert playing on the records or not).

Finally, later on I'll edit this post with the chart positions (if and when I find them).

-Hong Kong Garden (18 August 1978)
-THE SCREAM (13 November 1978)

-Killing An Arab (21 December 1978)
-The Staircase (Mystery) (23 March 1979)
-THREE IMAGINARY BOYS (8 May 1979)
-Boys Don't Cry (15 June 1979)

-Playground Twist (28 July 1979)
-JOIN HANDS (7 September 1979)
-Mittageisen (Metal Postcard)/Love In A Void (September 1979)

-Jumping Someone Else's Train (20 November 1979)
-Cult Hero (December 1979)
-Happy House (7 March 1980)
-A Forest (28 March 1980)
-SEVENTEEN SECONDS (22 April 1980)

-Christine (30 May 1980)
-KALEIDOSCOPE (1 August 1980)
-Israel (28 November 1980)

-Primary (20 march 1981)
-FAITH (14 April 1981)

-Spellbound (22 May 1981)
-JUJU (6 June 1981)
-Arabian Knights (24 July 1981)

-Wild Things EP (25 September 1981)
-Charlotte Sometimes (5 October 1981)
-PORNOGRAPHY (4 May 1982)

-Fireworks (21 May 1982)
-The Hanging Garden (12 July 1982)
-Slowdive (4 October 1982)
-A KISS IN THE DREAMHOUSE (5 November 1982)

-Let's Go To Bed (15 November 1982)
-Melt! (26 November 1982)
-Miss The Girl (15 April 1983)
-FEAST (15 May 1983)

-The Walk (27 June 1983)
-Right Now (8 July 1983)
-Like An Animal (9 August 1983)
-BLUE SUNSHINE (23 August 1983)

-Dear Prudence (23 September 1983, +)
-The Lovecats (18 October 1983)
-Punish Me With Kisses (18 November 1983)
-NOCTURNE (LIVE, 25 November 1983, +)
-JAPANESE WHISPERS (6 December 1983)
-Swimming Horses (16 March 1984, +)
-The Caterpillar (26 March 1984)
-THE TOP (30 April 1984)

-Dazzle (25 May 1984, +)
-HYAENA (8 June 1984, +)
-The Thorn EP (19 October 1984)

-CONCERT (LIVE, 22 October 1984)
-In Between Days (15 July 1985)
-THE HEAD ON THE DOOR (26 August 1985)
-Close To Me (9 September 1985)

-Cities In Dust (18 October 1985)
-Half An Octopus EP (8 December 1985)
-Candyman (28 February 1986)
-Boys Don't Cry (New Voice New Mix) (April 1986)
-TINDERBOX (21 April 1986)
-This Wheel's On Fire (5 January 1987)
-THROUGH THE LOOKING GLASS (2 March 1987)
-The Passenger (16 March 1987)

-Why Can't I Be You? (6 April 1987)
-KISS ME KISS ME KISS ME (25 May 1987)
-Catch (22 June 1987)

-Song From The Edge Of The World (13 July 1987, +)
-IN ORANGE (LIVE, October 1987)
-Just Like Heaven (5 October 1987)
-Hot Hot Hot!!! (8 February 1988)

-Peek-A-Boo (18 July 1988)
-PEEPSHOW (5 September 1988)
-The Killing Jar (19 September 1988)
-The Last Beat Of My Heart (21 November 1988)

-Lullaby (10 April 1989)
-Fascination Street (18 April 1989)
-DISINTEGRATION (2 May 1989)
-Lovesong (21 August 1989)

-Standing There (10 October 1989)
-BOOMERANG (6 November 1989)
-Fury Eyes (19 February 1990)

-Pictures Of You (19 March 1990)
-Never Enough (17 September 1990)
-Close To Me (Closer Mix) (22 October 1990)
-MIXED UP (REMIXES, 20 November 1990)
-A Forest (Tree Mix) (6 December 1990)
-ENTREAT (LIVE, 25 March 1991)

-Kiss Them For Me (13 May 1991)
-SUPERSTITION (13 May 1991)
-Shadowtime (1 July 1991)
-Fear (Of The Unknown) (22 October 1991)

-High (16 March 1992)
-WISH (21 April 1992)
-Friday I'm In Love (11 May 1992)

-Face To Face (13 July 1992)
-A Letter To Elise (5 October 1992)
-SHOW (LIVE, 19 October 1993)
-PARIS (LIVE, 26 October 1993)

-O Baby (28 December 1994)
-THE RAPTURE (17 January 1995)
-Stargazer (6 February 1995)

-The 13th (22 April 1996)
-WILD MOOD SWINGS (7 May 1996)
-Mint Car (17 June 1996)
-Strange Attraction (8 October 1996)
-Gone! (2 December 1996)

-Eraser Cut EP (3 August 1998)
-2nd Floor (5 October 1998)
-ANIMA ANIMUS (15 February 1999)
-Say (15 March 1999)
-Prettiest Thing (6 September 1999)
-HYBRIDS (REMIXES, 2 November 1999)

-Out Of This World (January 2000)
-BLOODFLOWERS (15 February 2000)
-Maybe Someday (April 2000)

-US Retrace (9 May 2000)
-TRILOGY (LIVE, 3 June 2003)
-THE SEVEN YEAR ITCH (LIVE, June 2003)
-Godzilla! (13 October 2003)
-HAI! (20 October 2003)

-THE CURE (29 June 2004)
-The End Of The World (19 July 2004)
-Alt.End (12 October 2004)
-Taking Off (18 October 2004)

-DREAMSHOW (LIVE, 13 September 2005)
-Into A Swan (3 September 2007)
-MANTARAY (10 September 2007)
-Here Comes That Day (29 October 2007)
-About To Happen (10 March 2008)

-The Only One (13 May 2008)
-Freakshow (13 June 2008)
-Sleep When I'm Dead (13 July 2008)
-The Perfect Boy (13 August 2008)
-Hypnagogic States EP (13 September 2008)
-4:13 DREAM (28 October 2008)
-BESTIVAL LIVE 2011 (LIVE, 6 December 2011)

-Love Crime (4 December 2015)

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Re: Siouxsie & the Banshees (feat. Robert Smith)
« Reply #19 on: October 24, 2017, 04:24:50 »
I had forgotten about it, but I'm re-reading Ten Imaginary Years, and in it, Robert says he was in the studio with the Banshees during the recording of "A Kiss In The Dreamhouse"... go figure, we'll probably never know, but some Dreamhouse songs have "Robert was here" written all over them (namely Cascade, Slowdive, Melt and particularly She's A Carnival).
But it's true that they have "Severin" and "McGeoch" all over them, too.

Although it's true that Cure and Banshees have very, very similar sounds at times.
It is obvious that Cocoon was an ancestor of Lovecats, that Slowdive owes more than just one bit to Primary, and that She's A Carnival is an ancestor of some of the classic Cure pop singles (but hey, Boys Don't Cry was there first).

Later on in the book, Robert says Budgie attended a Cure concert in 1986 and liked it... That's interesting.


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Re: Siouxsie & the Banshees (feat. Robert Smith)
« Reply #20 on: October 26, 2017, 11:48:59 »
I had forgotten about it, but I'm re-reading Ten Imaginary Years, and in it, Robert says he was in the studio with the Banshees during the recording of "A Kiss In The Dreamhouse"...

Yeah indeed, but I understood it as a way of "went to see the Banshees", thus it was a friend's visit to the studio to say "hi" and hang about for a while, maybe go for a drink... (i.e. no involvement in the actual recording session).
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Re: Siouxsie & the Banshees (feat. Robert Smith)
« Reply #21 on: November 19, 2017, 06:18:42 »
I had forgotten about it, but I'm re-reading Ten Imaginary Years, and in it, Robert says he was in the studio with the Banshees during the recording of "A Kiss In The Dreamhouse"...

Yeah indeed, but I understood it as a way of "went to see the Banshees", thus it was a friend's visit to the studio to say "hi" and hang about for a while, maybe go for a drink... (i.e. no involvement in the actual recording session).

Credited.

Btw, Siouxsie (at least her) went to see The Cure at RAK during the recording of Pornography.

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Re: Siouxsie & the Banshees (feat. Robert Smith)
« Reply #22 on: November 30, 2017, 10:47:23 »
Nothing really new in the text, but lots of good photos and many videos linked (some of them I'd not seen before)!!

http://www.post-punk.com/siouxsie-sioux-and-robert-smith/

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