8/24/2007 5:58:28 AM - by CURE:ROBERT
With all apologies for any inconvenience or disappointment it may cause, we have made a decision to move the September/October 2007 North American Cure shows to April/May 2008.
The schedule as it stands only gives us a couple of weeks to finish our new double album before we hit the road again, and we know this just isn’t enough time to complete the project to our total satisfaction.
Although this last month’s tour of Australasia showed that a great Cure show is not dependent on a new Cure album, it has to be remembered that we hadn’t played Australia for 7 years, New Zealand for 15 years, Japan for 23 years(!), and Singapore or Hong Kong ever before â€" so the absence of ‘new’ songs in the set was not really much of an issue.
However, we want to remodel/rework the live show for North America, change things around, incorporate new songs… and we need time and focus to do this.
So although we can agree it is a great shame to move these dates â€" believe us we have been looking forward to them more than anyone! â€" and know there will be a lot of disappointed people out there, we honestly feel that in the bigger picture we are making the right decision.
All tickets held for all 2007 North American Cure shows will be valid for the re-scheduled 2008 shows, and of course anyone who seeks a refund will be able to get one.
All validity/refund/rescheduling details will be announced as soon as we have them.
We are still going to headline the San Francisco Download Festival October 6th, and we will still be performing at the MTV Latin America Awards October 18th.
We will also play the three scheduled Sports Palace Mexico City shows October 20th/21st/22nd, as by this point we feel sure we will have finished the new album, and will be more than happy to start dropping a fresh song or three into the set each night…
Once again, our genuine apologies to anyone who is upset by this announcement - please be encouraged by our promise:
The Spring 2008 Cure shows will be even better than the Fall 2007 ones would have been!!!
See you all soon…
Love
_______________________________________________
See Official site > News (i dunno if i had to post it here? Otherwise where...?)
Robert, Simon, Jason and Porl â€" The Cure 24/8/07
24/8/07
North American Fall 2007 Cure shows re-scheduled for Spring 2008
With all apologies for any inconvenience or disappointment it may cause, we have made a decision to move the September/October 2007 North American Cure shows to April/May 2008.
The schedule as it stands only gives us a couple of weeks to finish our new double album before we hit the road again, and we know this just isn’t enough time to complete the project to our total satisfaction.
Although this last month’s tour of Australasia showed that a great Cure show is not dependent on a new Cure album, it has to be remembered that we hadn’t played Australia for 7 years, New Zealand for 15 years, Japan for 23 years(!), and Singapore or Hong Kong ever before â€" so the absence of ‘new’ songs in the set was not really much of an issue.
However, we want to remodel/rework the live show for North America, change things around, incorporate new songs… and we need time and focus to do this.
So although we can agree it is a great shame to move these dates â€" believe us we have been looking forward to them more than anyone! â€" and know there will be a lot of disappointed people out there, we honestly feel that in the bigger picture we are making the right decision.
All tickets held for all 2007 North American Cure shows will be valid for the re-scheduled 2008 shows, and of course anyone who seeks a refund will be able to get one.
All validity/refund/rescheduling details will be announced as soon as we have them.
We are still going to headline the San Francisco Download Festival October 6th, and we will still be performing at the MTV Latin America Awards October 18th.
We will also play the three scheduled Sports Palace Mexico City shows October 20th/21st/22nd, as by this point we feel sure we will have finished the new album, and will be more than happy to start dropping a fresh song or three into the set each night…
Once again, our genuine apologies to anyone who is upset by this announcement - please be encouraged by our promise:
The Spring 2008 Cure shows will be even better than the Fall 2007 ones would have been!!!
See you all soon…
Love
Robert, Simon, Jason and Porl â€" The Cure 24/8/07
"See Official site > News (i dunno if i had to post it here? Otherwise where...?)"
Vincent, me (not The Cure) :oops:
3 weeks to go and THIS??
Don't they realize how much money we've spent already on planes, hotels...can this be a joke??
:smth076 That's about all I have to say at this time.
WELL, IT DOES MAKE SENSE TO RELEASE THE ALBUM BEFORE THE TOUR...
:-D
Yeah, and they just figured this out yesterday???
I knew it was a crazy plan, but I figured Robert has his heart set on doing things in his own bizarre way.
Pure insanity. :?
I think it's a lack of respect. Too bad news.
:shock: :smth011
how come, this doesn't surprise me at all?
yup, f**k the fans who already paid for the journeys, hotels etc - with such a lame excuse, as mentioned already how come they realize this now, the situation isn't any different to the situation before the asia/austrlian concerts... laughable...
I have another theory about the cancellation (that could count in) but I'll better keep that for myself not to start another hassle here.
How he can do that !!!
I hope the new album will be ready before 2008 !!!
:smth011
I hope that the European shows will not be pushed back at the end of 2008
They should change the "Tour book" for something like this (see attach)
Quote from: Tof on August 24, 2007, 17:01:53
I hope the new album will be ready before 2008 !!!
I hope that the European shows will not be pushed back at the end of 2008
worst case scecnario would be another festival tour in europe... would fit in with the time schedule...
Get your tour t shirts quickly while they've got all the wrong dates on them.
Could be collector's items one day. ;)
Well, you have to laugh or the tears will just blind you.
I do feel sorry for everyone who has already booked flights, hotels etc. :roll:
The re-scheduled dates had better be something special & not more of the stuff we just got recently or there will be some very dispondant folks around. :roll:
Quote from: closedown on August 24, 2007, 17:13:14
Quote from: Tof on August 24, 2007, 17:01:53
I hope the new album will be ready before 2008 !!!
I hope that the European shows will not be pushed back at the end of 2008
worst case scecnario would be another festival tour in europe... would fit in with the time schedule...
No festival tour in europe please !!! we want THE CURE tour !!!
Quote from: closedown on August 24, 2007, 17:01:01
how come, this doesn't surprise me at all?
yup, f**k the fans who already paid for the journeys, hotels etc - with such a lame excuse, as mentioned already how come they realize this now, the situation isn't any different to the situation before the asia/austrlian concerts... laughable...
I have another theory about the cancellation (that could count in) but I'll better keep that for myself not to start another hassle here.
anything can happen... bad news, isn't it... mostly the gorgeous fans who really love THE CURE which let they down... sorry to say that, but it is true..
There's just one thing is in my mind and what I am afraid of that there MUIST BE something else behind the curtain, something serious thing (another member change maybe... :roll:), i really don't believe that "we-have-no-enough-time-before-to-hit-the-road-again" bullshit...
I think they just lost even more fans. Bob has gone mad.
To make matters worse, if you decide to get a refund on your tickets, TM will only refund the cost of the ticket, not the TM fees. So not only do you lose money on flights, hotels, etc, but on TM as well
Quote from: j on August 24, 2007, 18:07:49
To make matters worse, if you decide to get a refund on your tickets, TM will only refund the cost of the ticket, not the TM fees. So not only do you lose money on flights, hotels, etc, but on TM as well
The only who wins here is Ticketmaster. Looks like they never lose.
some fan, from thecure.com
"POOR TICKET SALES, there is the real reason."
can this be true?
Quote from: j on August 24, 2007, 18:07:49
To make matters worse, if you decide to get a refund on your tickets, TM will only refund the cost of the ticket, not the TM fees. So not only do you lose money on flights, hotels, etc, but on TM as well
superb... what a rule - I mean, if they hadn't set up the tour, one wouldn't have bought tickets + therefore paid the ticketmaster fee. don't know the law in the US, so can't help out on that, sorry, but one can't charge someone a fee for a concert that is cancelled. maybe a trick of TM to make even more money?
why not do a nice 'thank you list' with all the money listed + collect it and send it to The Cure's management?
This is... devastating. How can they think this is all right? How on earth are they going to make up for this? This is an irredeemable action....
I need to take a walk.
Quote from: dsanchez on August 24, 2007, 18:12:01
"POOR TICKET SALES, there is the real reason."
that was the thing I was yielding at with my upper posting... so, seems others counted 1+1=2 as well...
Why does this not surprise me at all?
Yeah, I'm a little upset.
Yes, I don't want to wait any longer ...
With the idea that the band [ie: Robert] is going to have another 6 months to work on perfecting the new "double album" ... all I'm saying is it better be the best thing they've ever done.
Now the expectation for a stellar album and an amazing tour is even higher.
Don't disappoint. Do Not.
I'm REALLY upset right now. What should we do? Will the tour routing change at all? I'm confused.
i'll be the official besserwisser-dickhead of the day and say:
who told them to book venues like madison square garden?
because if it was the ticket sales, then i'm not hugely surprised about this. they were booking such huge places before they have the album out - that was bound to be risky.
anyway, i'm sorry for all the people who already booked and maybe paid for flights and hotels etc.
i know a friend from finland who was going to go to NY and philadelphia shows... and it costs a LOT of money to plan such a trip, to get from here over there... i hope he didn't pay for everything already... :?
shame on the cure (especially shame on robert) :smth011, sorry for all US-fans!!possible reasons: ticket-sales are/were poor :( or the band isn't in the mood for another tour (maybe someone has to go?) or they are too old to go on tour ;).Should be interesting to know if this has been robert's own decision or the complete band :roll:
all the best
curiosa
PS: enjoy listening to http://www.stage.fm/seconds/
This is all a bit "x-files"
Ticket sales. Age. Rifts in the camp.....
I have been waiting for a Sisters of Mercy LP for a lot longer than 3 years, so this is a minor set back.
Yeah I'm sorry for all those people who have made plans, but what's done is done & obviously the new LP isn't.
They should never have tempted us all with this tour in the knowledge that the LP wasn't finished yet. That is true.
But ask yourselves this.
Do you want to go & see the same stuff as you saw last time, or would you rather have something more polished & inclusion of new songs?
Remember that they will experiment with the new stuff live at first & you might be at the only concert where "song x" was ever played.
That would be a real buzz for me.
Chill out & it will all be okay.
s
I'm glad I didn't buy that ticket to Philly yet!
What sucks is that I had nice seats in Boston + NY. Boston was right next to the stage, and NY was at the front of a balcony (great for taping).
I do see JB's point about places like MSG, etc. That definitely took me a second to comprehend. I mean, they haven't played there for 20 years, right? And that was a time when they had a bit more "star power".
(Then again, I wondered the same thing when Depeche Mode toured "Playing The Angel"... and they played 3 nights @ MSG).
Anyhow, this is stupid, really stupid. I mean, most of the particulars (on their part, never mind the fans) must have been taken care of by this point.. all they'd need to do was show up, play and travel to the next gig.
For the most part, who really cares about the new album - at least when it comes to touring? (I mean, we'll all buy and listen to it and love it or hate it once it comes out).
The Cure are at a point where if you're going to to go see them, you're going to go see them. If you're not... a new album isn't going to change your mind, most likely. After 1992, have any of the albums really "sold" a tour? They haven't had any big singles (and the resulting exposure) since "Friday..."
Anyhow, my point is that they could easily tour without an album (especially b/c they aren't doing this with any label support, correct? If they were, I would understand, as they'd be at the mercy of the label and their desire for "return on investment").
Oh well... the bright side is that I can put more money aside and try to hit some more shows next time around!
Quote from: closedown on August 24, 2007, 18:16:03
Quote from: j on August 24, 2007, 18:07:49
To make matters worse, if you decide to get a refund on your tickets, TM will only refund the cost of the ticket, not the TM fees. So not only do you lose money on flights, hotels, etc, but on TM as well
superb... what a rule - I mean, if they hadn't set up the tour, one wouldn't have bought tickets + therefore paid the ticketmaster fee. don't know the law in the US, so can't help out on that, sorry, but one can't charge someone a fee for a concert that is cancelled. maybe a trick of TM to make even more money?
why not do a nice 'thank you list' with all the money listed + collect it and send it to The Cure's management?
Normally I'd say "well, they did print and mail the tickets, and do have bandwidth and server and labor costs - even if their charges are INSANELY high", but they really
should refund the charges - if anything because for each refunded ticket, that is one more ticket they can sell (again) to someone else, and get overpaid for (again).
Now, I don't mind charges - I mean, they are a business, after all - but they are getting really out of hand (esp. at the volume + efficiency that they run at), as are ticket prices. But that's another thread, entirely.
I want my $700. Every penny of it.
Well, I just got an email from TM about the postponement. However, it only mentioned the option for a refund, with no mention of whether or not the old tickets will be honored at the new date.
I did send them an e-mail just now, asking them if a refund is my only recourse, or if they will be honored... and if the new seats @ the new date will be the same (if at the same venue), or at least of comparable class (I'll be pretty bullshit if I paid upwards of $75/seat, only to be shoved behind a pole, in the nosebleed section, at the new date!).
If I get any interesting / noteworthy answers, I shall post them...
I was scheduled to go to 7 shows. At this point, I think I am only going to hold on to 3 of them- all shows I can drive to. I was only going to Chicago because it was on a Saturday night. What happens if I hold onto the ticket and the rescheduled date is a Tuesday? Makes no sense, although nothing today has made much sense. 20 days before the tour...and the pricks postpone it. :smth097 Who gives a f*ck about the album? It has been delayed and delayed and delayed. What's another few months if it means keeping the people that are going to buy the damn thing happy?
Quote from: j on August 24, 2007, 20:37:45
20 days before the tour...and the pricks postpone it. :smth097 Who gives a f*ck about the album?
yes who gives a f*ck indeed. a friend of mine just lost i think some $600/700+ dollars on flight tickets alone (non-refundable, tourist class)
so any re-scheduled dates won't help.
he says he's going to kill someone. :evil:
Well, as pissed as I am, I plan to hold onto my six tickets and just work out what I can when new dates are announced. Red Rocks might be out, though :x And surely my plans of going to France in the spring are all but gone :smth099
That is my plan too. I'll keep my tickets and do what I can to get to the shows when they finally happen. To not go at all would be too sad!
And one of my planned shows is Download and I'll still be going!
I do wonder what happens, for those holding onto their tickets (I am awaiting confirmation from TM that I can definitely do this), if someone cannot make the show, come Spring-time? Can they still return them to TM for a refund? or are they stuck trying to sell tickets to an old show, at a loss, and having to convince someone on craigslist or eBay that "yes, it says September, but trust me, it's fine" (and then hope that it is, in fact, fine).
Oh well.
As for a reason, I'm leaning towards the "ticket sales" theory, myself.
but lucky you who can still keep planning to hold on to your tickets. unfortunately it's not an option for everyone.
Yeah, I can't imagine what that would be like. :smth011
I hope I never find out...
(However, the getting stuck with a pile of tickets thing... this has happened to me quite a few times... Once with 6 or 7 $80 tickets for a rescheduled Bowie show in 2003. I was out a lot of cash, and was too polite to make friends who couldn't make the make-up show pay me...)
Is your friend who bought the tickets to the US able to re-schedule the flight for next year? Sometimes you can do that (although it costs more money, of course :( ), and possibly change the destination, I think (Europe tour, maybe?). Then again, I imagine a trip over here (or anywhere) requires some planning, so it's never that easy...
I hope it all works out, somehow...
Such a bad news, I was going to travel from Mexico to the NYC concert. Lucky I stll have't booked anything!!! Now I'm not suro what to do, look for a refund or reschedule my trip for the spring.
Let's wait for the shows here in Mexico city!!!!!
Regards
AR
Quote from: rjl on August 24, 2007, 21:54:58
Is your friend who bought the tickets to the US able to re-schedule the flight for next year? Sometimes you can do that (although it costs more money, of course :( ), and possibly change the destination, I think (Europe tour, maybe?). Then again, I imagine a trip over here (or anywhere) requires some planning, so it's never that easy...
no. the cheapest tourist class flight tickets are 100% non-refundable and you cannot re-schedule anything/change the destination or the dates. once you've accepted to pay for them they are only valid for those original destination/dates. so in a situation like this, you lose all your money... and if you want to hold on to your concert tickets you're forced to buy new flight tickets. it's a LOT of money...
Quote from: japanesebaby on August 24, 2007, 22:14:04
Quote from: rjl on August 24, 2007, 21:54:58
Is your friend who bought the tickets to the US able to re-schedule the flight for next year? Sometimes you can do that (although it costs more money, of course :( ), and possibly change the destination, I think (Europe tour, maybe?). Then again, I imagine a trip over here (or anywhere) requires some planning, so it's never that easy...
no. the cheapest tourist class flight tickets are 100% non-refundable and you cannot re-schedule anything/change the destination or the dates. once you've accepted to pay for them they are only valid for those original destination/dates. so in a situation like this, you lose all your money... and if you want to hold on to your concert tickets you're forced to buy new flight tickets. it's a LOT of money...
When he's going to travel? Maybe he can make it for the Download festival or Mexico city and not lose everything? :roll:
no it's impossible to change the dates on the flight tickets. since the tickets were booked to match certain US dates in september, it's impossible to use them to go to mexico in october. because you cannot change the dates on the tickets at all, neither can you change the destinations.
i always fear this same thing when i buy flight tickets. because i always have to buy the cheapest class tickets myself too (which are 100% non-refundable). flying out of finland is expensive because only the major airlines fly here, none of these cheap small airlines companies do. so you cannot get these really cheap flights anyway, it's always going to cost hundreds of euros, even with these non-refundable tourist tickets. it's really a lot more expensive to buy so-called flexible tickets (with which you can change the dates/destnations), i've never been able to afford these flexible tickets myself. so everytime i am going to fly, i always fear something will happen and i'll lose everything. like, if you're simply late from your flight you are screwed! i'm always paranoid before a flight because of this. when i flew to london for the royal albert hall gig, my flight left at 6 am. i couldn't sleep one single minute the night before it because i was so afraid i would not wake up and miss my flight. then i couldn't even sleep on the plain and didn't want to waste my time in london by staying in the hotel and sleeping, so i actually ended up being up for some 40+ hours straight there... i was totally manic and disoriented at the end of it.
Quote from: rjl on August 24, 2007, 21:39:49
I do wonder what happens, for those holding onto their tickets (I am awaiting confirmation from TM that I can definitely do this), if someone cannot make the show, come Spring-time? Can they still return them to TM for a refund?
normally yes, cause unless a new date is set you can't be sure if you can make the show, so normally some time then is scheduled so you can send the old tickets back + get your refund if you can't make it. I had the pleasure of such a thing here in Europe where a gig was postponed + you could get your money back - then they set a new date which I couldn't make + returned my ticket then and received the money (incl. booking fee) that I paid for the gig.
obviously lots of questions with all this going along + hopefully some more real information rather than speculation will come up in the next weeks.
suggestion - what about a seperate topic with real facts (when they appear), where all this is collected (sth like: USA/Canada Tour cancelled - what to do now?)
I can understand you all, that you are sad, upset etc. that the USA Tour is pushed back to 2008.
I really hope that you can get the money back for the flight and hotel, even if it's not all of the money.
We have to accept the decision anyway,because we all can't change it. Sad but true :)
Hope they will do a real tour in 2008!!
its just shit really. no two ways around it, the band are in the wrong here
well at least an answer by bob about his decision on the official site
8/24/2007 5:58:28 PM - by CURE:ROBERT
I'VE GOT A MAC BOOK PRO TO SELL ON EBAY
AND PORL NEED TO LEARN HOW TO PLAY CURE SONGS WITH A KEYBOARD
AND JASON NEED TO LEARN HOW TO USE EYELINER
AND SIMON WANT MORE TIME TO RIDE HIS BICYCLE
SO f*ck OFF
LOVE RSX
PS: f*ck OFF IS NOW A TRADEMARK OF SMITH MUSIC LTD
First let me say sorry to all of you affected by the postponement. Hopefully there will be more information soon.
Quote from: docteur zaius on August 25, 2007, 01:40:24
well at least an answer by bob about his decision on the official site
8/24/2007 5:58:28 PM - by CURE:ROBERT
I'VE GOT A MAC BOOK PRO TO SELL ON EBAY
AND PORL NEED TO LEARN HOW TO PLAY CURE SONGS WITH A KEYBOARD
AND JASON NEED TO LEARN HOW TO USE EYELINER
AND SIMON WANT MORE TIME TO RIDE HIS BICYCLE
SO f*ck OFF
LOVE RSX
PS: f*ck OFF IS NOW A TRADEMARK OF SMITH MUSIC LTD
I read something on the official site about someone posting fake Robert comments..is this it? ...I don't think Robert himself has responded to this topic yet.
Anyway..another silly thought...regarding the news posted, doesn't he always type in capitals? but then again..it would have taken up too much space if he did....like others have said...possibly a management decision, sales, etc.
perhaps there will be some type of compensation offered next time around for all who missed out...ideas? maybe some free..ltd edition.. merchandise given away at the concert...perhaps everyone in the audience will get a free copy of the new album (ala Oprah style)... maybe some extra free gigs held in some cities... I guess that still won't be enough... a lot of people have lost a lot
If possible (i know it's difficult) try not to be too sad, I hope it will work it self out for all of you.
xxkc
Quote from: docteur zaius on August 25, 2007, 01:40:24
well at least an answer by bob about his decision on the official site
8/24/2007 5:58:28 PM - by CURE:ROBERT
I'VE GOT A MAC BOOK PRO TO SELL ON EBAY
AND PORL NEED TO LEARN HOW TO PLAY CURE SONGS WITH A KEYBOARD
AND JASON NEED TO LEARN HOW TO USE EYELINER
AND SIMON WANT MORE TIME TO RIDE HIS BICYCLE
SO f*ck OFF
LOVE RSX
PS: f*ck OFF IS NOW A TRADEMARK OF SMITH MUSIC LTD
Oh that's good.
I like him now more than ever before.
And I'm being serious.
Quote from: docteur zaius on August 25, 2007, 01:40:24
well at least an answer by bob about his decision on the official site
8/24/2007 5:58:28 PM - by CURE:ROBERT
I'VE GOT A MAC BOOK PRO TO SELL ON EBAY
AND PORL NEED TO LEARN HOW TO PLAY CURE SONGS WITH A KEYBOARD
AND JASON NEED TO LEARN HOW TO USE EYELINER
AND SIMON WANT MORE TIME TO RIDE HIS BICYCLE
SO f*ck OFF
LOVE RSX
PS: f*ck OFF IS NOW A TRADEMARK OF SMITH MUSIC LTD
Obviously a fake. I've heard that Robert is a native speaker of english.
Robert wouldnt say that, moving the dates is pushing people far enough, he isnt gonna add insult to injury, let alone take the piss out of his band mates........ im shocked theyve done this........ the new album must be worth the while if a whole our is being pushed back, thats a huge thing to do. As long as the album's good and they play the UK, i dont mind. Id be very pissed off having paid for hotels and flighs etc though.... Roberts pushing people pretty far here.
I'm still upset, but we'll see what happens when the new dates are announced, or some refund info is offered. Yeah, I'm out some money, but we'll just have to see what happens.
Robert has made quite a few posts....starting from... (sorry about the long post)
HMMMMMM
8/24/2007 7:42:01 PM - by CURE:ROBERT
I STAYED AWAY FROM THE FIRST 500...
BUT GET A FEEL THERE ARE SOME UNHAPPY ONES
(PLUS CA CHANGE?!!)
did Geffen make the push, and if so, Robert really can't say..because they are under contract.
NO
WE AS A GROUP MADE THE DECISION
THERE IS NO BACK STORY
NO ULTERIOR THING
WE WANT TO FINISH THE RECORD
ITS THAT SIMPLE
WE MADE A MISTAKE IN BOOKING THE DATES FOR SEPTEMBER I THINK
IT PUT US IN A 'FINISH IT AS SOON AS YOU CAN... WHATEVER' POSITION
AND IT MEANS TOO MUCH TO US TO DO THIS
IT HAS TO BE RIGHT
Was it poor sales?
WE HAVE ALREADY SOLD MORE THAN OUR GUARANTEES
SOLD OUT AND CLOSE TO SOLD OUT ACROSS THE BOARD
REALLY...
THERE IS NO 'IT MUST BE SALES!' BACK STORY
And what will they do between the CA festival show and the Mexico dates? Fly home for a week? Or do promo stuff?
FLY HOME AND MIX THE FINAL SONGS I HOPE!
WE REALLY DO FEEL BAD ABOUT PUTTING EVERYONE OUT LIKE THIS
BUT...
WE HAD TO DO IT
THE SHOWS IN SPRING 2008 REALLY WILL BE THE BEST CURE SHOWS
AND THIS ALBUM WILL BE THE BEST CURE ALBUM
THIS IS WHAT WE DO
SO
DONT GET TOO UPSET
I WILL DROP A NEW SONG IN HERE IN A FEW DAYS
AS A KIND OF PEACE STONE IN THE WATER?
LOVE
RSX
AND THIS...
8/24/2007 7:57:05 PM - by CURE:ROBERT
the community
8/24/2007 4:40:15 PM - by cure1000
dear the cure.
will you please, please, please get rid of this community thing when you rearrange the website for the new album. I'm so incredibly fed up with reading these moaning comments written by ignorant, self centered airheads. Do I have to read the comments you ask? No. Not really. But they are here for everyone to read. In whose favour I ask? Not in the band's anyway. It only gives them the wrong impression about Cure fans. In the fans' favour then? Hell no. I'm a fan and I think most of the crap I read here is rubbish. Why then am I writing a comment? Shooting myself in the foot you say? Well, yes I am. but I don't care.
And to the band again: Go finish that album. and take your time.
...MADE ME SMILE!
HOWEVER
I UNDERSTAND THAT THE DECISION TO MOVE THE SHOWS HAS PUT A LOT
A LOT
OF PEOPLE OUT
IT WAS NOT A DECISION TAKEN LIGHTLY
BUT IT HAS BEEN TAKEN
AND IT WAS TAKEN BY US...
AND WE ARE NOW GOING TO FINISH THE ALBUM
AND WE WILL PLAY ALL THESE SHOWS IN SPRING 2008 (AND MORE!)
AND...
AGAIN
ALL APOLOGIES
BUT WE WILL MAKE IT WORTH IT I HOPE
RSX
WE WILL PLAY ALL THE CITIES
8/24/2007 8:02:56 PM - by CURE:ROBERT
AND HOPEFULLY THE SAME VENUES IN SPRING 2008
AS WERE SCHEDULED FALL 2007
AND
WE WILL LIKELY ADD FEW IN
AS AND IF THE NEW 2008 ROUTING ALLOWS...
ANYWAY
BED
ANYONE ELSE BITTER ABOUT THE MOVE
SORRY
BUT
IT WONT CHANGE
ANYTHING...
RSX
WELL
8/24/2007 8:05:52 PM - by CURE:ROBERT
hopefully we'll be able to sell the tickets we bought this year to someone else on ebay next year... somehow the enthusiasm for the next tour is all gone...
THATS TWO DOWN...
HMMMMMMM
FUNNY TO THINK WHAT IT WOULD BE LIKE HERE IF WE CANCELLED A SHOW!
AAAAIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEE
LOVE
RSX
You seem angry
8/24/2007 8:12:54 PM - by CURE:ROBERT
You seem angry
8/24/2007 8:05:15 PM - by TilaPiaZadora
at us.
NOT AT ALL
I KNEW THE DECISION TO MOVE THE SHOWS WOULD UPSET A LOT OF PEOPLE
I HOPED THE REASONS WOULD BE UNDERSTOOD
IT JUST RILES WHEN THESE REASONS ARE SEEN AS SOME KIND OF SMOKESCREEN
OR WHEN 'FANS' FEEL THERE IS A MONEY ANGLE...
AAAAAAAGH!
THIS IS MY f*cking LIFE!
OUR LIFE...
SO
ANYWAY
AGAIN
I AM TIRED
AND
I SHOULD STOP NOW
I HOPE ALL CURE FANS WILL UNDERSTAND THAT WE NEVER DO THINGS FOR THE WRONG REASONS
EVER
AND WITH THAT
I WILL MOVE FROM THE MIDDLE STAIR
TO THE
TOP
RSX
POSTPONED
NOT
CANCELLED
THE MORE LAST SIGH
8/24/2007 8:48:41 PM - by CURE:ROBERT
THIS ONE WAS GOOD
It's normal to be upset. Especially with the money situation. But it is what it is as well. So no need to be nasty either. If you can swing it...it's just a few more months.
If not..get your money back.Problemo solved.
PITHY. COHERENT. SIMPLE.
TRUE
BUT THEN
THIS ONE
I doubt anybody was honestly expecting him to say, "You're right. Our sales were crap. We had no choice but to abandon this sinking ship"
IS SO **** IT STOPPED ME SHUTTING DOWN
OUCH!
FOR FUCKS SAKE!
ITS A POSTPONEMENT TO FINISH THE ALBUM
NOT A CANCELLATION
A POSTPONEMENT
A DELAY
A RESCHEDULING
NOTHING TO DO WITH SALES
AAAAAAAAGH
TO BE TRAPPED HERE
WITH THIS KIND OF IDIOT MIND
" ...BUT TO ABANDON THIS SINKING SHIP"
POETRY
BLEEEEARGH!
PLEASE
BED
RSX
NO ITS NO GOOD ONE LAST SCREAM
8/24/2007 8:53:57 PM - by CURE:ROBERT
i was excited and proud to be a cure fan, i really was. guess what- no one can stay excited that long. definitely not until APRIL.
THIS IS WITHOUT DOUBT THE MOST...
STAY EXCITED UNTIL NEXT APRIL?
ABSURD
RIDICULOUS
NEXT APRIL?
NEXT
APRIL?
SOMETIMES
I
WONDER
RSX
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH
8/24/2007 9:02:28 PM - by CURE:ROBERT
there is no proof of spring dates at this point, nor is there proof that tickets we already bought and paid for will be usable for equivalent seats in equivalent venues... we could well end up with nothing to show for this in the spring, too.
UNREAL
PLEASE
HOW MANY TIMES HAVE WE POSTPONED A TOUR IN 30 YEARS?
ONCE?
IF YOU DONT LIKE US ANYMORE
BECAUSE YOU HAVE BEEN SO DISMAYED BY THIS POSTPONEMENT
IF THE WORLD DIDNT TURN YOUR WAY
THIS ONE TIME
PLEASE DONT BOTHER
GET A REFUND AND GO SEE SOMEONE ELSE
PLEASE
MY LAST SIGH
RSX
Wow, I really can't believe what I've been reading. The myspace bulletin just knocked me off my feet! Bloody Hell!
I'm so very glad that it didn't happen to us in the southern hemisphere!! I really feel for all you people that are affected by this. I really would have been ripe for some mass murder if it had've been me in your shoes. I am just dumfounded that a Band that has toured extensively for years and years, could come up with this... cancellations?? My Arse - just play the friggin' gigs! They committed to a tour, and now they change their minds? I'm sorry but there is no excuse for this. It is unprofessional to say the least... and I'm not moved in the slightest by any of those comments kissingcrimson (G'Day there matey!!! :-D) posted that are 'apparently' from Mr Smith himself. Its a bad move, and it will haunt them for a hell of a long time!
I just can't believe this has occured really... truely unbelievable :smth011
It would appear that all myspace comments aren't being 'given permission' to be posted either... :?Hmm, wonders why! (last one was 10th August...)
NO COMMENT Mr RSX :smth011
Quote from: docteur zaius on August 25, 2007, 01:40:24
well at least an answer by bob about his decision on the official site
8/24/2007 5:58:28 PM - by CURE:ROBERT
I'VE GOT A MAC BOOK PRO TO SELL ON EBAY
AND PORL NEED TO LEARN HOW TO PLAY CURE SONGS WITH A KEYBOARD
AND JASON NEED TO LEARN HOW TO USE EYELINER
AND SIMON WANT MORE TIME TO RIDE HIS BICYCLE
SO f*ck OFF
LOVE RSX
PS: f*ck OFF IS NOW A TRADEMARK OF SMITH MUSIC LTD
hmmmmm it was just another silly joke from my crazy mind.... but when i read the last post of Robert Smith, the "f*ck of" sounds really close to the reality :shock:
just got in from a day/night out to be greeted by this news, this really is not good news for all the people who have lost so much money on flights/hotels/TM bokking fees etc., in my mind RS must have known the album would not be completed in time, but so what, new songs have been introduced in the past before an album is released, so why not this time too, and surely if he is using the excuse of wanting to complete the album first, then that is what they should have done before announcing any tour dates, this is not a good way to treat fans at all, very frustrating indeed :smth011 :(
people planning their holidays, spending lots of money + everything, nah, sure, those people, come on, why complain, hey, the magic 'leader' has spoken, accept it, don't say a word, be happy you lost all that,it is Robert Smith who said that, so there is no other opinion that counts... who cares about that few bucks...
of course Robert can speak like that, with all the money he made from the fans he doesn't have to worry, other people maybe devote everything, Robert won't care anyway, hm, maybe 2 days before the spring tour he decides he needs to rerecord one track for the album + postpones the whole tour again...
at least he now opnely shows his true mind! :twisted:
((((((((((((((HUGS)))))))))))
for everyone
sorry it's the mothering coming out in me.
I'm so sorry to everyone who is affected by this news. I was gobsmacked when I found out. I understand the disappointment and frustration everyone is feeling at the moment but it almost reads like a competition to see who can bag, diss or hang shit on The Cure the best on the official site. Yes voice an opinion, but it almost borders on a site for attention seeking people. I'm really sorry but it's my opinion of it, meaning the "official" site. It's good to see that at least on this site, everyone can voice their opinion in a civilised manner. :D. I would hate to be in the position that many of you here and elsewhere are at the moment with this postponement. Sorry if I offend anyone with this post. Again HUGS to all.
Quote from: billee on August 25, 2007, 13:22:51
((((((((((((((HUGS)))))))))))
for everyone
sorry it's the mothering coming out in me.
I'm so sorry to everyone who is affected by this news. I was gobsmacked when I found out. I understand the disappointment and frustration everyone is feeling at the moment but it almost reads like a competition to see who can bag, diss or hang shit on The Cure the best on the official site. Yes voice an opinion, but it almost borders on a site for attention seeking people. I'm really sorry but it's my opinion of it, meaning the "official" site. It's good to see that at least on this site, everyone can voice their opinion in a civilised manner. :D. I would hate to be in the position that many of you here and elsewhere are at the moment with this postponement. Sorry if I offend anyone with this post. Again HUGS to all.
Ah, I feel the hug there Mum!! (hehehe)
I think I speak for a lot of people when I say that we've bought the tickets, we may as well ride this out and see what happens, but my faith and respect for Robert has dropped. I just think he's out of touch with how hard people worked to get the money to see him. Just doesn't seem like he can grasp that anymore. A pity really.
I've read all the comments by Robert and i have the impression, that he is really sorry that they postphoned the tour. I would also be sad and upset if that happened to me, because like most of the fans, i haven't got a cash cow at home.
And i have also the impression that now Robert is the bad person, who don't care that his fans spent a lot of money for the ticket, flight and hotel. I think that's a little bit unfair. Okay, he has and still earns a lot of money, of which we all can dream of, but i hope he still understands that not everyone has so much of it like him.
How many times should he say he is sorry about that they postphoned the tour? Or justify himself all the time?
Once again i can understand the fans, who are sad and angry and i'm sorry what happend.
I read all this when i got in last night after 2 bottles of wine... didnt quite get the gist of Roberts posts :roll:...... but after re-reading everything a bit more sober, i can see that the bigger picture has finally hit Robert, this album needs to be done, before the tour......... otherwise its just a tour and they'll have to go out and do it all again after the albums released. I can fully understand why people are pissed off and quickly losing faith, i would be if id paid all that money.... but i guess the keyword is 'postponed', theyre coming back in 6/7 months, the albums done, they are more organised.
I think since they dont have management anymore its Roberts role to do EVERYTHING and with a band as big as this, that aint an easy ride. Dont get me wrong, i think its pretty bad whats happened and a bit disorganised, but at the same time all this 'oh, as a paying punter i deserve this, this and this!!' or 'ill never bother with them again after this'..... i mean, come on, get things in persepective. This doesnt happen often, if ever....... most other bands would simply cancel and reschedule different dates later on, but not here. I mean having management at their level would certainly mean things get done quicker but give the guy a break, in the bigger picture hes trying make things the best they can.
First of all I want to say how sorry I am that so many of you will lose money on tickets/flights/hotels. That just sucks. :smth011
But I do admit I always thought the way the tour was scheduled was a bit messed up. Guess Mr. Smith didn't think clearly when he announced it.
After thinking the situation over, I have decided to keep my ticket and hope it can be used again next year. If not, I'll just get a new one and keep this one as a souvenir. And I have also decided not to cancel my hotel and have a nice weekend getaway. :smth001
well, one way to make this better....when they do reschedule, cancel the opening band and do it like 1996. As it was the opening act was going to hack off 30-45 minutes of the show already and take us from an australian 180 minutes to an american 135-140 minutes....lets go back to the 3 hours show please, with at least 6 new ones
I´ve just read the Robert note. Really too bad news. But my question is: what about the south american tour? If they are going to Europe after ap/may, when they would get here?
Hey!
The way I see it is like this.
Everybody's been moaning about the fat they are not playing new songs on this tour.
Me included :roll:
The recordings I've heard, so far, have not been the greatest cure gigs IMHO.
Let them get the lp right & so drop new songs into the gigs in spring.
That's what we all want right?
No need to be hostile like the posts I saw on the cure site.
What would you prefer?
Sh!t gig with nothing new, or a brilliant gig with many surprises?
Quote from: Steve on August 26, 2007, 23:22:39
Sh!t gig with nothing new, or a brilliant gig with many surprises?
After all, you're right....I agree with you !!!
Wait and see for the good shows, 3 h, 40 titles, new or not, just to see them again...
;)
I think you miss the point, Steve, in saying that.
For people who aren't financially affected by the postponement, it doesn't really matter -- it's probably even a good thing, for the reasons you listed. But for the people who spent hundreds or thousands of dollars/pounds/et cetera to travel to the show(s), booked hotel rooms and rental cars, took time off from work.... A lot of that can't be refunded. I don't know how it is with other people, but when I've asked for days X through Y off from work, that's it -- it's set in stone. A lot of hotels, flights, and rental car places won't give you a refund of any kind, others will, at a penalty.
So, yeah, maybe the sets will be better, more interesting, but a lot of us are still losing out on hundreds or thousands, that we may not have when they do come 'round in Spring.
Luckily I only booked my flight to Tampa, and not my flights to Chicago or Houston. However, my flight to Tampa cost me $118. To change the flight, it will cost $100. So, if I change it to another destination, I have a whopping credit of $18. Wow. Guess I may go to Tampa for a night, just for the hell of it.
I had everything booked and paid for except my rental cars. Luckily I've been able to get most of my money back or at least in the form of a gift card/voucher. All in all I'm out around $200 ($100 to move my flight to a later date and another $100 for my hotel in Santa Barbara which I cannot get back). Maybe I can take Robert to small claims court :P Not so bad I guess. I've been hearing others have lost thousands! What a shame.
Steve does bring up a good point about the possibility of better gigs. Not sure it makes up for this delay. But 3 1/2 hour Cure only gigs with new songs and hopefully some old songs that haven't seen the light in some years certainly sounds good. My thing about this is why didn't they do what they did back in the early 80s when they'd play new songs before the albums came out? Those old recordings from late '81 are fabulous. They'd play these early workings of songs from the upcoming Pornography album, with Robert changing lyrics nightly. I mean The Cure have always been ones to change songs when played live. So why this need to have the album out and rehearse the new songs is beyond me. Okay, well I can take a guess and just say that Robert is a perfectionist. And I suppose you can't fault the guy for wanting to put forth his best effort and bring the f-ing house down. But damn, he had to know that they weren't going to have the album done and have time to rehearse before they booked the tour! Hmmm...Robert needs to hire a manager. Clearly he can't do it all.
Anyway, enough ranting today. Just trying to look at the bright side and think about how much fun the spring will be.
Quote from: j on August 27, 2007, 02:23:14
Guess I may go to Tampa for a night, just for the hell of it.
Ybor City :rocker :smth030
No doubt the way this was handled was completely fucked. I find it hard to believe that they just realized that touring before putting out an album wasn't the best idea. :oops:
I agree that the only positive thing we can see here is possibility of much better setlists. While there were a few surprises in 2007 so far, it still sounded way too much like "Festival 2005". :roll:
Hopefully the new album will be great and they'll have good new songs to play and really mix things up for once. Despite whatever Robert said, I think the U.S. shows would have sounded just like what we've already heard from Asia/Australia. However, I can still see them playing only the same stuff + a few news songs next year. :?
Well, only time will tell.
P.S. Who's to say these supposed April/May reschedule dates will actually occur then? We all know how "Cure time" works...
I meant to say previously too, I really think Mr Smith & Co. didn't think about the tour/album situation properly enough.
I think someone else has said already that it has obviously occurred to them to tour new material nowish, so when the album is finally released, they won't have to necessarily hit the 'road' all over again to tour the new album as it's already done - so to speak! I think that makes sense!!!
What gets me is, they really should have considered all of this before hand, before they began ANY gigs anywhere!! I can't understand why they didn't!!!
I'd reckon this means that us Australasians (that have had the pleasure of their company already) won't get to hear any of the new album's stuff until another 7 odd years or more later!!! Do they really intend to come back our way to tour the new album?? I think not... so why are the Americans (no offence meant there in anyway) so blimmin' special???
Someone on the cure's website was saying that they couldn't understand why the Americans were pissed about the shows being cancelled, and said that we get all of the shows. I put together this synopsis in relation to that post:
2007: 1 US show out of 16 shows
2006: 0 out of 1
2005: 0 out of 10
2004: 25 out of 49
2003: 1 out of 2
2002: 0 out of 17
2001: 0 out of 3
2000: 29 out of 67
1999: 1 out of 1
1998: 0 out of 15
Since 1998, 57 out of 165 Cure shows have been in the US/Canada (34.5%). In relation to that, there have been 96 shows in the same span in Europe (I counted Greece, Turkey, etc in that number) for a percentage of 58%!!!!
Now who gets all of the shows?
I've gotten info about getting refunds but has anyone heard anything about exchanges?
Quote from: rodney on August 27, 2007, 14:23:15
I've gotten info about getting refunds but has anyone heard anything about exchanges?
If you mean using the tickets at a later date, then yes... From TM (well, the pertinent excerpts):
Thank you for your e-mail regarding order number XXXXXXXXXX. The Cure at Agganis Arena has been postponed. The new date is yet to be announced. Your original tickets that you allready have in hand will be honored for the new date (your seats will remain the same), or you may obtain a refund by replying with the requested information below.
Regarding order number XXXXXXXXX. The Cure at Madison Square Garden has been postponed. Your original tickets that you allready have in hand will be honored for the new date (your seats will remain the same), or you may obtain a refund by replying with the requested information below.Now let's just hope that they play the same venues.
Quote from: ernest newman on August 26, 2007, 18:08:16
well, one way to make this better....when they do reschedule, cancel the opening band and do it like 1996.
This is the correct answer.
:smth023
Quote from: j on August 27, 2007, 12:26:03
Someone on the cure's website was saying that they couldn't understand why the Americans were pissed about the shows being cancelled, and said that we get all of the shows. I put together this synopsis in relation to that post:
2007: 1 US show out of 16 shows
2006: 0 out of 1
2005: 0 out of 10
2004: 25 out of 49
2003: 1 out of 2
2002: 0 out of 17
2001: 0 out of 3
2000: 29 out of 67
1999: 1 out of 1
1998: 0 out of 15
No shit...
And I never understood this envy the Europeans have for us getting Curiosa. Ummm... There were plenty of European shows before that. Just look at the numbers above. Virtually half and half for 2004!
Quote from: lostflower4 on August 27, 2007, 15:05:11
And I never understood this envy the Europeans have for us getting Curiosa. Ummm...
hey neither did i! personally, that must be my least favorite cure tour...
ok sorry for that... ;)
(...still, and a bit strangely, my all time favorite cure t-shirt is a curiosa t-shirt. :?)
Quote from: lostflower4 on August 27, 2007, 15:05:11
And I never understood this envy the Europeans have for us getting Curiosa. Ummm...
Agreed - a 100 minute set of a handful of new songs, plus the big singles (nothing against them - I mean "Lovesong" and "JLH" are great songs, and I do love hearing them live), plus maybe 1 "special" song (which Mansfield/Boston didn't really get... Most cities got one neat one, like "Cockatoos" or "All Cats". We didn't.
But yeah, I got a great shirt (yellow flower in the middle, with a red Cure logo over it, and a winged heart on the back, with the dates. I love it.
I'm hoping that the re-scheduled dates feature a nice, big setlist, with plenty of "gems". I mean, when they re-scheduled the WA show, they got a nice, long set, and a few encores...
What bothers me the most is that the Mexico and San. Fran. dates are still on.
And you know the Mexico dates are going to be nice, long sets. :( <--- for me... good for those fans...
(I wish I knew about them sooner / had a chance at good tickets, as my gf's father retired to Mexico, and I've always wanted to go... But it's not feasible at such short notice.)
I think the envy with Curiosa comes from the other bands, not The Cure's set, i mean, you had Mogwai, Interpol, The Cure all in one night, right after the other.... thats like my dream show! Over here at the Manchester gig we had to sit through Keane, Longview and Elbow!!!.... Only other highlight being Cranes and still only got like 90 mins of The Cure before they had the plug pulled on them..... :roll:
Yeah, the "other bands" angle occurred to me after I posted. Probably because I went with a long-time friend (we grew up together), who I hadn't seen in a long time, so we kind of drank through all of the opening bands, save for the last 5 minutes of Interpol.
In retrospect, I really should have watched / taped Muse + Interpol.
If anything, I would have save a fortune in over-priced, awful beer.
Hello, this is Ticketmaster Customer Service with an important alert for your upcoming event. THE CURE scheduled at ALLSTATE ARENA on SATURDAY, SEPTEMBER 29, 2007, at 7:00 PM, has been postponed. The new date is to be announced. You may obtain a refund by following the instructions below for your applicable delivery method.
Nothing at all about using the tickets for a future show....and the other date I was attending, Philadelphia, looks like Comcast is still selling tickets for this show!
Quote from: strange_day on August 27, 2007, 16:25:06
I think the envy with Curiosa comes from the other bands, not The Cure's set, i mean, you had Mogwai, Interpol, The Cure all in one night, right after the other.... thats like my dream show! Over here at the Manchester gig we had to sit through Keane, Longview and Elbow!!!.... Only other highlight being Cranes and still only got like 90 mins of The Cure before they had the plug pulled on them..... :roll:
indeed, i was going to say the same. that's why the t-shirt's my favorite too: it's nice to sport a bunch of good names at one time
a pic from the back side design attached).
Quote from: rjl on August 27, 2007, 16:41:59
In retrospect, I really should have watched / taped Muse + Interpol.
i won't complain since i've never taped anything myself, but it's still a shame that so little recordings from all those other bands from curiosa tour circulate - i think i've never even heard one muse set from that tour!
Hmmm, Must say i think it is poor form from Mr. Smith. I had the good fortune of seeing the show in Melbourne and contrary to much opinion, i thought it was the best Cure show i'd seen in nearly 20 years. Growing up in the UK i became a Cure addict in 1981 and have seen many, many shows since. To say that these 2007 shows were below par is complete trash. They were the hardest, raw Cure shows in my memory, stripped back and mean. I loved it.. The reason given of finishing the Double Album seems a bit dicky to me - Smith has been in this industry for long enough to know how it works. To suddenly change a whole tour because the album is unfinsihed reeks of something more than a bad time management issue, since when did the Cure ever come in on time anyway??? Lets face it they are f*cking lazy sods at best - and i have loved them for this (soooo me..) To add that the Spring shows will be all the better for the new songs is a highly dubious statement too. Lets face it since Disintigration the Cure have been sliding down the crucial list. 1 or 2 songs just about pass through but where are the CLASSICS? Not to be found on the last 3 or so cd's thats for sure.. Finally the RSX replies - i would like to believe they are fake but (bar the funny Ebay Mac, Porl keyboard etc) i guess they could be the real deal. He is a grumpy fucker but i am surprised that he (if it is indeed him) has bothered to reply at all. It does him no favours by telling fans that he doesn't care if they come to the new shows, these people are hurting. Imagine if Santa "postponed" X-Mas for all 5 year olds til April ("the toys r not finished - sorry") hopw many tears eh? Well being older now means we look forward to less things, and to have something postponed hurts badly. A promise is a promise eh Robert? I think not...
Quote from: japanesebaby on August 27, 2007, 17:11:11i think i've never even heard one muse set from that tour!
I'm sure there would be a few going around if Mr. Hangover didn't hurt his thumb. :lol:
Quote from: rodney on August 27, 2007, 16:50:39
Hello, this is Ticketmaster Customer Service with an important alert for your upcoming event. THE CURE scheduled at ALLSTATE ARENA on SATURDAY, SEPTEMBER 29, 2007, at 7:00 PM, has been postponed. The new date is to be announced. You may obtain a refund by following the instructions below for your applicable delivery method.
Nothing at all about using the tickets for a future show....and the other date I was attending, Philadelphia, looks like Comcast is still selling tickets for this show!
The Allstate site still shows them for the 29th! And Ticketmaster is still selling tickets!
http://www.ticketmaster.com/event/04003EDDEAF956E0?artistid=915776&majorcatid=10001&minorcatid=60
Ya'd think after sending out the postponment emails someone would change the ticket info on their site!
Quote from: iwannashagsimon on August 28, 2007, 07:31:33The Allstate site still shows them for the 29th! And Ticketmaster is still selling tickets!
Yeah, and I'm sure they're still happy to charge their non-refundable "convenience fees" too. :twisted:
Quote from: iwannashagsimon on August 28, 2007, 07:31:33
Quote from: rodney on August 27, 2007, 16:50:39
Hello, this is Ticketmaster Customer Service with an important alert for your upcoming event. THE CURE scheduled at ALLSTATE ARENA on SATURDAY, SEPTEMBER 29, 2007, at 7:00 PM, has been postponed. The new date is to be announced. You may obtain a refund by following the instructions below for your applicable delivery method.
Nothing at all about using the tickets for a future show....and the other date I was attending, Philadelphia, looks like Comcast is still selling tickets for this show!
The Allstate site still shows them for the 29th! And Ticketmaster is still selling tickets!
I had the same question about rain-check options and had to inquire on the website to find out my tickets would still be good for the new concert date in Dallas. They want you to think refund is your only option so that they can keep your processing fee now, then charge you a new one when the tickets go on sale again later. I'm definitely in the wrong business.....
http://www.ticketmaster.com/event/04003EDDEAF956E0?artistid=915776&majorcatid=10001&minorcatid=60
Ya'd think after sending out the postponment emails someone would change the ticket info on their site!
TM still has floor seats still available for Boston! Hurry!
;)
(No... I'm serious. They're still on sale. And yes, I was able to pull up floor seats.)
the matter is:
they had this thing to do...and they wanted it to be done NOW... maybe new ideas, new things,and things that who don't have nothing to do with creativity can't just understand.
i know, this could've been done in a different way...for instance,not announcing a world tour before the album was perfectly completed...but that's it...i mean, they did it and RS is sorry about this and , in fact...he apologies in almost every post...
maybe i would be angry,too if this would've happened to me....but i would understand the reasons...
and i really can't understand...why the people is going so insane trying to say that the "real" (?) reasons are not the ones about the album...
i mean, even if the "real" (??) reasons are "hide" to us (hmm..thing i personally don't really believe), who the hell give a f**k ? this is so, real or unreal reasons...it is....nothing changes and nothing moves (beckett used to say)...it's completely unuseful.
and...sorry if i was rude.
Well, people were angry, and people needed to vent. It's understandable, even if they sometimes went too far... to the point of exaggeration and speculation. I appreciate that Robert is sorry (it could not have felt good to make that announcement), but some of his posts have a bit of a confrontational tone. Not totally unwarranted, had this just been sheer, uncalled-for aggression towards him and the band.
But it's just frustration. Mostly temporary and relatively minor (not forgetting those who are out some serious cash, however! I feel for them.). Better to let it burn down some than to stir stuff up with some argumentative posts. Better to take the "high road" and simply say "I am really, honestly sorry" than to follow an excuse-fest with snarky comments.
(The excuse-fest being the postponement announcement... Citing the album, and then the other stuff about wanting to re-work the live show. Given the setlists of the past few years, I can see how folks would be skeptical about that last bit. But we'll see.)
All I can say is that if this is the "best line-up ever", and they are working on the "best album ever", and just dropped their greatest cancellation ever (an objective fact), the make-up tour had better live up to the hype.
As has been said before... rock it '96-style. Mixed bag of songs, differing setlists, long sets, nice encores, no opener.
So yeah, I'm still a bit let down... but still (naively?) hope that they still have it in them to out-do themselves when they come back.
And what will his excuse be next time? That he has some urgent painting to do in his living room? Gimme a break!
Cancelling a whole tour just to finish an album that had been delayed for almost two years doesn't make any sense whatsoever. Robert has gone seriously nuts, and that's it.
Somebody on the official said that the Santa Barbera Bowl doesn't reopen until June 22nd, so the show can't be rescheduled for April/May 08.