North American Fall 2007 Cure shows re-scheduled for Spring

[rodney]

I think I speak for a lot of people when I say that we've bought the tickets, we may as well ride this out and see what happens, but my faith and respect for Robert has dropped.  I just think he's out of touch with how hard people worked to get the money to see him.  Just doesn't seem like he can grasp that anymore.  A pity really.

[silversand]

I've read all the comments by Robert and i have the impression, that he is really sorry that they postphoned the tour. I would also be sad and upset if that happened to me, because like most of the fans, i haven't got a cash cow at home. 

And i have also the impression that now Robert is the bad person, who don't care that his fans spent a lot of money for the ticket, flight and hotel. I think that's a little bit unfair. Okay, he has and still earns a lot of money, of which we all can dream of, but i hope he still understands that not everyone has so much of it like him.

How many times should he say he is sorry about that they postphoned the tour? Or justify himself all the time?


Once again i can understand the fans, who are sad and angry and i'm sorry what happend.

[strange_day]

I read all this when i got in last night after 2 bottles of wine... didnt quite get the gist of Roberts posts  :roll:...... but after re-reading everything a bit more sober, i can see that the bigger picture has finally hit Robert, this album needs to be done, before the tour......... otherwise its just a tour and they'll have to go out and do it all again after the albums released. I can fully understand why people are pissed off and quickly losing faith, i would be if id paid all that money.... but i guess the keyword is 'postponed', theyre coming back in 6/7 months, the albums done, they are more organised.
I think since they dont have management anymore its Roberts role to do EVERYTHING and with a band as big as this, that aint an easy ride. Dont get me wrong, i think its pretty bad whats happened and a bit disorganised, but at the same time all this 'oh, as a paying punter i deserve this, this and this!!' or 'ill never bother with them again after this'..... i mean, come on, get things in persepective. This doesnt happen often, if ever....... most other bands would simply cancel and reschedule different dates later on, but not here. I mean having management at their level would certainly mean things get done quicker but give the guy a break, in the bigger picture hes trying make things the best they can.

[iwannashagsimon]

First of all I want to say how sorry I am that so many of you will lose money on tickets/flights/hotels.  That just sucks.

But I do admit I always thought the way the tour was scheduled was a bit messed up. Guess Mr. Smith didn't think clearly when he announced it.

After thinking the situation over, I have decided to keep my ticket and hope it can be used again next year.  If not, I'll just get a new one and keep this one as a souvenir. And I have also decided not to cancel my hotel and have a nice weekend getaway. :smth001

[ernest newman]

well, one way to make this better....when they do reschedule, cancel the opening band and do it like 1996. As it was the opening act was going to hack off 30-45 minutes of the show already and take us from an australian 180 minutes to an american 135-140 minutes....lets go back to the 3 hours show please, with at least 6 new ones

[csalves]

I´ve just read the Robert note. Really too bad news. But my question is: what about the south american tour? If they are going to Europe after ap/may, when they would get here?

[Steve]

Hey!
The way I see it is like this.
Everybody's been moaning about the fat they are not playing new songs on this tour.
Me included :roll:
The recordings I've heard, so far, have not been the greatest cure gigs IMHO.
Let them get the lp right & so drop new songs into the gigs in spring.
That's what we all want right?
No need to be hostile like the posts I saw on the cure site.
What would you prefer?
Sh!t gig with nothing new, or a brilliant gig with many surprises?

[Druide]

Sh!t gig with nothing new, or a brilliant gig with many surprises?

After all, you're right....I agree with you !!!
Wait and see for the good shows, 3 h, 40 titles, new or not, just to see them again...

[Bloodflower]

I think you miss the point, Steve, in saying that.

For people who aren't financially affected by the postponement, it doesn't really matter -- it's probably even a good thing, for the reasons you listed. But for the people who spent hundreds or thousands of dollars/pounds/et cetera to travel to the show(s), booked hotel rooms and rental cars, took time off from work.... A lot of that can't be refunded. I don't know how it is with other people, but when I've asked for days X through Y off from work, that's it -- it's set in stone. A lot of hotels, flights, and rental car places won't give you a refund of any kind, others will, at a penalty.

So, yeah, maybe the sets will be better, more interesting, but a lot of us are still losing out on hundreds or thousands, that we may not have when they do come 'round in Spring.

[j]

Luckily I only booked my flight to Tampa, and not my flights to Chicago or Houston.  However, my flight to Tampa cost me $118.  To change the flight, it will cost $100.  So, if I change it to another destination, I have a whopping credit of $18.  Wow.  Guess I may go to Tampa for a night, just for the hell of it.

[crowbi_wan]

I had everything booked and paid for except my rental cars.  Luckily I've been able to get most of my money back or at least in the form of a gift card/voucher.  All in all I'm out around $200 ($100 to move my flight to a later date and another $100 for my hotel in Santa Barbara which I cannot get back).  Maybe I can take Robert to small claims court    Not so bad I guess.  I've been hearing others have lost thousands!  What a shame. 

Steve does bring up a good point about the possibility of better gigs.  Not sure it makes up for this delay.  But 3 1/2 hour Cure only gigs with new songs and hopefully some old songs that haven't seen the light in some years certainly sounds good.  My thing about this is why didn't they do what they did back in the early 80s when they'd play new songs before the albums came out?  Those old recordings from late '81 are fabulous.  They'd play these early workings of songs from the upcoming Pornography album, with Robert changing lyrics nightly.  I mean The Cure have always been ones to change songs when played live.  So why this need to have the album out and rehearse the new songs is beyond me.  Okay, well I can take a guess and just say that Robert is a perfectionist.  And I suppose you can't fault the guy for wanting to put forth his best effort and bring the f-ing house down.  But damn, he had to know that they weren't going to have the album done and have time to rehearse before they booked the tour!  Hmmm...Robert needs to hire a manager.  Clearly he can't do it all.

Anyway, enough ranting today.  Just trying to look at the bright side and think about how much fun the spring will be. 

Guess I may go to Tampa for a night, just for the hell of it.

Ybor City   

[lostflower4]

No doubt the way this was handled was completely fucked. I find it hard to believe that they just realized that touring before putting out an album wasn't the best idea.

I agree that the only positive thing we can see here is possibility of much better setlists. While there were a few surprises in 2007 so far, it still sounded way too much like "Festival 2005". :roll:

Hopefully the new album will be great and they'll have good new songs to play and really mix things up for once. Despite whatever Robert said, I think the U.S. shows would have sounded just like what we've already heard from Asia/Australia. However, I can still see them playing only the same stuff + a few news songs next year.

Well, only time will tell.

P.S. Who's to say these supposed April/May reschedule dates will actually occur then? We all know how "Cure time" works...

[~*CherryRed*~]

I meant to say previously too, I really think Mr Smith & Co. didn't think about the tour/album situation properly enough.
I think someone else has said already that it has obviously occurred to them to tour new material nowish, so when the album is finally released, they won't have to necessarily hit the 'road' all over again to tour the new album as it's already done - so to speak! I think that makes sense!!!
What gets me is, they really should have considered all of this before hand, before they began ANY gigs anywhere!! I can't understand why they didn't!!!
I'd reckon this means that us Australasians (that have had the pleasure of their company already) won't get to hear any of the new album's stuff until another 7 odd years or more later!!! Do they really intend to come back our way to tour the new album?? I think not... so why are the Americans (no offence meant there in anyway) so blimmin' special???

[j]

Someone on the cure's website was saying that they couldn't understand why the Americans were pissed about the shows being cancelled, and said that we get all of the shows.  I put together this synopsis in relation to that post:

2007: 1 US show out of 16 shows
2006: 0 out of 1
2005: 0 out of 10
2004: 25 out of 49
2003: 1 out of 2
2002: 0 out of 17
2001: 0 out of 3
2000: 29 out of 67
1999: 1 out of 1
1998: 0 out of 15

Since 1998, 57 out of 165 Cure shows have been in the US/Canada (34.5%).  In relation to that, there have been 96 shows in the same span in Europe (I counted Greece, Turkey, etc in that number) for a percentage of 58%!!!!

Now who gets all of the shows?

[rodney]

I've gotten info about getting refunds but has anyone heard anything about exchanges?