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Title: Is this forum dead?!
Post by: Janko on September 24, 2009, 19:21:33
The handling of the forum, concerning the three leaked songs, was very, very embarrassing.

To add insult to injury, on that other forum, Curefans came off as antisemitic loosers. The happenings (or lack of them) in the last couple of days were very alarming and I don't see the proper reaction here!

So, my question is, is this forum dead or what?!

:smth011
Title: Re: Is this forum dead?!
Post by: dsanchez on September 24, 2009, 23:31:37
The forum is not dead, the antisemitic comment was removed quickly by one of our moderators (j). Unfortunately we didn't act fast about the (other) insults towards another forum, but the whole message have been already deleted and the member have been warned.

I want to take the chance to remind everyone at curefans.com that insults (of any kind) are not allowed. We reserve the right to delete any offensive comment or the whole message, if necessary.

David.





Title: Re: Is this forum dead?!
Post by: wish-man on September 25, 2009, 20:36:20

Well, yeah. Thats very nice when another forum posting comments about 'our forum' and we dont reply. That's madness. I dont understand this possition at all. The only person who respond to them was me. I'm not boasting of it, simply I was pissed about their comments and attitude. And I explained on their forum, that I didn't meant anti-semitic stuff. I just wanted to show them their place and how roughly they act. Thats it. :roll:

Quote"what you should do is link it to a page explaining that you'll relink if people release their nasty little grip on other rare stuff... like the bbc sessions, you're so happy etc... funny as f*ck though!" The Kremlin MFC

"Ha! you taking the songs off JUST when Curefans noticed is almost even better than getting the songs themselves! shame that they'll definetly share the mp3s between them" Marco MFC
Title: Re: Is this forum dead?!
Post by: dsanchez on September 25, 2009, 20:41:48
Quote from: wish-man on September 25, 2009, 20:36:20
Well, yeah. Thats very nice when another forum posting comments about 'our forum' and we dont reply. That's madness. I dont understand this possition at all.

The best is to ignore those comments, wish-man. To respond would be to enter in an ending game of non-sense, discussions, insults, etc. We don't want that, do we?
Title: Re: Is this forum dead?!
Post by: Trust... on September 25, 2009, 21:53:40
Quote from: wish-man on September 25, 2009, 20:36:20

Well, yeah. Thats very nice when another forum posting comments about 'our forum' and we dont reply. That's madness. I dont understand this possition at all.

Hey wish-man, I don't now if it helps you, but I never read the posting on another forum so far away from what they're comments are from "our forum"  ;)

It's like dsanchez wrote, it's better to ignore them  :roll:
Title: Re: Is this forum dead?!
Post by: wish-man on September 25, 2009, 22:48:29

Ahhh well, its hard to be mutineer.  :roll: Anyway, my expression still remain in force - **c* MFC!  :-D
Title: Re: Is this forum dead?!
Post by: japanesebaby on September 27, 2009, 21:59:55
Quote from: Janko on September 24, 2009, 19:21:33
To add insult to injury, on that other forum, Curefans came off as antisemitic loosers. The happenings (or lack of them) in the last couple of days were very alarming and I don't see the proper reaction here!

janko, i think it was one person posting his (angry) opinion and not even a person from the curefans staff. so why would it mean curefans came off as "antisemitic losers"? it was a single post from one single person, not a post representing this forum. i'm not defending what was said/the choice of words there, the insult was not ok.
just saying that it was not a common opinion presented by this forum.


i'm not sure was "is this forum dead" has got to do with this. :?: a mod reacted to the post in question here and it was edited, later removed.
i have been called a freak and received insults posted on my birthday thread on other cure forums, without a mod or anyone else coming in and saying something/doing anything. here the post was edited/removed. so yes, this forum is being moderated. some others aren't.

you saidyoudon't see "proper reaction" to the recent lack of news - what would be a proper reaction? to start a lot of rumors by speculating all imaginable?
and anyway, what difference would it make, what reaction we have (or don't have)? because in the end, all we can do is sit and wait anyway. i don't think i can do anything to change the course of events, whatever they might turn out to be. i can only wait and see.



@wish-man: i think many people do appreciate your passion and the fact that you felt like saying something there. nothing wrong about that in principle.  it's just about the choice of words.
but yeah, it's hard to be a mutineer, i know. just like it's hard to be an idealist. sadly, the cure community seems to be a very aggressive and quarrelsome one: the most arrogant people seem to rule, to have their way through force, those are the ones with the most negative energy to drive them against the others.
but well, luckily there are other things to look into in life. :)


Quote from: dsanchez on September 25, 2009, 20:41:48
To respond would be to enter in an ending game of non-sense, discussions, insults, etc. We don't want that, do we?

actually discussion is a positive thing, so maybe not something to stash next to nonsense and insults. if people don't have a will to discuss, they can never understand each other.
discussion means conversation, not disagreement.
Title: Re: Is this forum dead?!
Post by: alwaysprayingforRAIN on September 28, 2009, 18:28:59
Quote from: japanesebaby on September 27, 2009, 21:59:55
Quote from: dsanchez on September 25, 2009, 20:41:48
To respond would be to enter in an ending game of non-sense, discussions, insults, etc. We don't want that, do we?

actually discussion is a positive thing, so maybe not something to stash next to nonsense and insults. if people don't have a will to discuss, they can never understand each other.
discussion means conversation, not disagreement.

i agree with you that discussion basically means a positive way of communication, but sometimes they can result in unnecessary repeats of the same insults without any reasonable argument at all and you're caught up in an endless hate spiral. i think this was the kind of 'discussion' dsanchez was talking about.
Title: Re: Is this forum dead?!
Post by: Janko on September 28, 2009, 20:33:03
So let's try to keep this forum the best one!

:smth023
Title: Re: Is this forum dead?!
Post by: dsanchez on September 29, 2009, 13:53:23
Quote from: alwaysprayingforRAIN on September 28, 2009, 18:28:59
i agree with you that discussion basically means a positive way of communication, but sometimes they can result in unnecessary repeats of the same insults without any reasonable argument at all and you're caught up in an endless hate spiral. i think this was the kind of 'discussion' dsanchez was talking about.

you got my point :smth023
Title: Re: Is this forum dead?!
Post by: japanesebaby on September 29, 2009, 18:30:25
Quote from: dsanchez on September 29, 2009, 13:53:23
Quote from: alwaysprayingforRAIN on September 28, 2009, 18:28:59
i agree with you that discussion basically means a positive way of communication, but sometimes they can result in unnecessary repeats of the same insults without any reasonable argument at all and you're caught up in an endless hate spiral. i think this was the kind of 'discussion' dsanchez was talking about.

you got my point :smth023

yes i'm a pain in the *ss, wanting to discuss things, i know.
nevermind. :) just put me in the ignore mode. :)

let's get back on topic, shall we?
@Janko: so let's try that. :smth023
Title: Re: Is this forum dead?!
Post by: alwaysprayingforRAIN on September 29, 2009, 19:38:47
Quote from: japanesebaby on September 29, 2009, 18:30:25
Quote from: dsanchez on September 29, 2009, 13:53:23
Quote from: alwaysprayingforRAIN on September 28, 2009, 18:28:59
i agree with you that discussion basically means a positive way of communication, but sometimes they can result in unnecessary repeats of the same insults without any reasonable argument at all and you're caught up in an endless hate spiral. i think this was the kind of 'discussion' dsanchez was talking about.

you got my point :smth023

yes i'm a pain in the *ss, wanting to discuss things, i know.
nevermind. :) just put me in the ignore mode. :)

let's get back on topic, shall we?
@Janko: so let's try that. :smth023

oh my god!! did you just agree to what i said ? i gotta go mark that in my calendar :-D
don't worry i love discussions (respectful ones) as much as you do :)

on topic: i think this forum is on a very good way! it is very rare to find a place like this where everybody can voice their opinion without fearing to receive massive personal insults for it.
Title: Re: Is this forum dead?!
Post by: MeltingMan on July 25, 2017, 11:46:29
Quote from: dsanchezThe activity has decreased

A coolfan said goodbye to me officially. Two other members have
been absorbed by the 'silent ones' and I won't register myself elsewhere
a third time. There's no use. :(
Title: Re: Is this forum dead?!
Post by: dsanchez on July 25, 2017, 12:21:07
there's less activity because The Cure is not doing anything at the moment... the activity will increase once we have more news. Fingers crossed to that ;)
Title: Re: Is this forum dead?!
Post by: Ulrich on July 26, 2017, 14:26:58
Quote from: MeltingMan on July 25, 2017, 11:46:29
A coolfan said goodbye to me officially.

Any reasons why he/she said "goodbye" (officially or inofficialy)?   :?

(Btw, you chose a strange thread for posting this "news" - well, I just read the above posts from 2009 and I didn't know about these "happenings" back then and they're pretty irrelevant now.)

Anyway, this forum is as dead as YOU (I'm talkin' to all of the members here) want it to be.  :o
Do not post anything Cure-ish or any Cure news or links you may find on the net. Do not say "thank you" when others post interesting links or something. Do not reply to any questions. Don't ask any questions. Don't talk about other music you like. ...
Then it will soon be dead indeed.  :(
Title: Re: Is this forum dead?!
Post by: MeltingMan on July 26, 2017, 18:40:51
I know that my activity has dropped as well, inevitably, but despite an
earlier announcement, the move of curefans didn't materialize to date
and I wonder why. This is no criticism but just a comment. You've already
criticized me for (re-)opening threads. This led to a certain kind of self-censorship.
Is that what you and maybe others want? I don't know. I'm not half as engaged like
e.g. Susanna but I refused to have an fb account, for good reasons. Somebody missed
a proper fan reaction here in 2009 and I felt the same at times. No reason for argument.
Title: Re: Is this forum dead?!
Post by: dsanchez on July 26, 2017, 20:54:22
Quote from: MeltingMan on July 26, 2017, 18:40:51
I know that my activity has dropped as well, inevitably, but despite an
earlier announcement, the move of curefans didn't materialize to date
and I wonder why.

apologies for the lack of communication on this, this is my bad. But the forum is currently running in another server, which is much faster and secure. This was step one, and step two would be the upgrade. I still need to find time to do this, pretty busy at work plus Slowdive (my other favorite band) is very active this year so my time for The Cure is a bit reduced (shame on me!)... but I promise to come here every day and post a few things every week. Long life to The Cure and long life to Curefans.com! :smth023
Title: Re: Is this forum dead?!
Post by: SusannaRS on July 26, 2017, 21:42:39
Quote from: MeltingMan on July 26, 2017, 18:40:51
I'm not half as engaged like
e.g. Susanna

Is that me?
I'm sorry if I disappeared but I've never written so much anyway. But I read the forum quite often.

I don't think it is dead, it's just hibernated. I'm sure it will emerge soon when news from the band will be released.

And thanks to David and to all the others who keep it alive
Title: Re: Is this forum dead?!
Post by: Ulrich on July 27, 2017, 08:42:50
Quote from: MeltingMan on July 26, 2017, 18:40:51
You've already criticized me for (re-)opening threads. This led to a certain kind of self-censorship.

This was not really meant as "criticism", just a thought - wouldn't it be easier to create a new topic instead of posting in an old 2009 thread (talking about "strange posts" which are long deleted)?  :?
Title: Re: Is this forum dead?!
Post by: Ulrich on July 29, 2017, 11:56:17
Now I think this forum is (un)dead, users online in the last few days included "Nosferat" and "deadkarma".  :lol:
Title: Re: Is this forum dead?!
Post by: dsanchez on November 01, 2017, 05:25:58
Quote from: Ulrich on July 29, 2017, 11:56:17
Now I think this forum is (un)dead, users online in the last few days included "Nosferat" and "deadkarma".  :lol:

the forum is not dead... people is just depressed cause there are not much Cure news lately. There are always shy people watching at the forum but not posting. As Cure news will arrive (a 2018 Tour?) then there will be more activity ;)
Title: Re: Is this forum dead?!
Post by: Ulrich on November 02, 2017, 11:59:57
Quote from: dsanchez on November 01, 2017, 05:25:58
Quote from: Ulrich on July 29, 2017, 11:56:17
Now I think this forum is (un)dead, users online in the last few days included "Nosferat" and "deadkarma".  :lol:

the forum is not dead...

I know, I was joking ("Nosferat" sounding a bit like a vampire, aka one of the "undead")...
Of course, in times with no news it will be pretty quiet. Each forum has lots of readers and not so many who do post, that is pretty normal.
But I got to say, despite no news, it's been pretty busy here recently!  :smth023