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Title: The Cure Pilgrim Route
Post by: dsanchez on August 10, 2018, 21:10:34
I have compiled a list of places of interest for Cure fans based on Lol's book "Cured" and several others (specially in Crawley) based on @u-a-b-f's cure-concerts.de website. I will add a description later (when necessary) about the relevance of such places. To my knowledge, the ones crossed do not longer exist.

Note: this list is continuously updated! if there's a place that for historical reasons you think is missing on this list please leave a comment.

Link to share the map below with anyone: http://bit.ly/TheCurePlaces


Update: We plan to do the Pilgrim Route sometime in June/July 2021!
Read here the proposal (https://docs.google.com/document/d/e/2PACX-1vSPaJHVtNHs4PHh_58MrywC_rdyVG6KdI0UUx5PRF9xaQffeK4yb4bpRl-lv4Amddn-o8dLbyHuSIJf/pub)
Title: Re: Places of interest for Cure fans
Post by: desintegration on August 11, 2018, 06:50:55
If only we could all take a big field trip and visit all these places ~
Title: Re: Places of interest for Cure fans
Post by: chemicaloverload on August 11, 2018, 13:34:53
Quote from: desintegration on August 11, 2018, 06:50:55
If only we could all take a big field trip and visit all these places ~

Hahaha I like this idea! I nominate David as the tour guide  :D
Title: Re: Places of interest for Cure fans
Post by: Ulrich on August 11, 2018, 13:43:42
I am pretty certain I saw an article back in the day about "Cure places" in/around London... probably it was in the official "Cure news" mag (which I'd received from around '96-2000) or maybe it can be found online too. I'll let you know if/when I find anything...
Title: Re: Places of interest for Cure fans
Post by: dsanchez on August 12, 2018, 20:27:17
Quote from: chemicaloverload on August 11, 2018, 13:34:53
Quote from: desintegration on August 11, 2018, 06:50:55
If only we could all take a big field trip and visit all these places ~
Hahaha I like this idea! I nominate David as the tour guide  :D

Why not? ;) We should definitely organize a field trip to those places some time! There's lot of history in those places...
Title: Re: Places of interest for Cure fans
Post by: dsanchez on August 12, 2018, 21:06:20
I have embedded a map in the first post...the list is not final so if I am missing something (which I probably am!) please leave a comment and let me know. I have added also Beachy Head which you can see in the Just Like Heaven video... ;)
Title: Re: Places of interest for Cure fans
Post by: desintegration on August 13, 2018, 23:27:25
Quote from: dsanchez on August 12, 2018, 20:27:17
Quote from: chemicaloverload on August 11, 2018, 13:34:53
Quote from: desintegration on August 11, 2018, 06:50:55
If only we could all take a big field trip and visit all these places ~
Hahaha I like this idea! I nominate David as the tour guide  :D

Why not? ;) We should definitely organize a field trip to those places some time! There's lot of history in those places...
Now im excited thinking about the posibility of this! If only ^_^
Title: Re: Places of interest for Cure fans
Post by: chemicaloverload on August 13, 2018, 23:31:32
Quote from: dsanchez on August 12, 2018, 20:27:17
Quote from: chemicaloverload on August 11, 2018, 13:34:53
Quote from: desintegration on August 11, 2018, 06:50:55
If only we could all take a big field trip and visit all these places ~
Hahaha I like this idea! I nominate David as the tour guide  :D

Why not? ;) We should definitely organize a field trip to those places some time! There's lot of history in those places...

Can you imagine this, a pilgrimage of sorts  :D Hire a wee mini bus, get you a little red jacket, we'd be good to go  :lol:
Title: Re: Places of interest for Cure fans
Post by: Ulrich on August 14, 2018, 17:55:16
Well, I found the old article, it's about places the band used for shooting videos!

"The Caterpillar" - video shoot location:
Palm House, Kew Gardens, Kew, Surrey.
https://www.kew.org/

"The Hanging Garden" - video shoot location:
York House, Richmond Road, Twickenham, Surrey.
(Gardens open to the public, can be accessed via Sion Road.)

"Charlotte Sometimes" - video shoot location:
Virginia Water Estate, Stroude Road, Virginia Water, Surrey
(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQTK-FiJoHCcTM6q2yPu_2IvNPmm548ZHSCOFPbFPdV801VAVv4)
Title: Re: Places of interest for Cure fans
Post by: dsanchez on August 14, 2018, 18:47:54
Quote from: Ulrich on August 14, 2018, 17:55:16
Well, I found the old article, it's about places the band used for shooting videos!

cool! just added them to the map (https://www.google.com/maps/d/edit?mid=1KKlu-0_jnr2Fwk18uh0dPmACS5LhtvSJ&ll=51.293054940960104%2C-0.03592398007810971&z=10)  :smth023
Title: Re: Places of interest for Cure fans
Post by: Ulrich on August 14, 2018, 19:12:45
One more mention in that old article was Beachy Head ("Close to me" & JLH video shoot), but you got that already!  :)

When I find the time, I will look in other books (e.g. "10 Imaginary Years") for places to be added.  :cool
Title: Re: Places of interest for Cure fans
Post by: mikeybyker on August 14, 2018, 22:58:20
Positive it has been mentioned, but my number 1 place... Faith - https://maps.google.com/?cid=9372981153528200804
Title: Re: Places of interest for Cure fans
Post by: chemicaloverload on August 15, 2018, 00:55:41
Quote from: Ulrich on August 14, 2018, 17:55:16
Well, I found the old article, it's about places the band used for shooting videos!

"The Caterpillar" - video shoot location:
Palm House, Kew Gardens, Kew, Surrey.
https://www.kew.org/

"The Hanging Garden" - video shoot location:
York House, Richmond Road, Twickenham, Surrey.
(Gardens open to the public, can be accessed via Sion Road.)


"Charlotte Sometimes" - video shoot location:
Virginia Water Estate, Stroude Road, Virginia Water, Surrey
(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQTK-FiJoHCcTM6q2yPu_2IvNPmm548ZHSCOFPbFPdV801VAVv4)

The Virginia Water Estate, what a glorious building  :heart-eyes
Title: Re: Places of interest for Cure fans
Post by: dsanchez on August 15, 2018, 09:30:44
Quote from: mikeybyker on August 14, 2018, 22:58:20
Positive it has been mentioned, but my number 1 place... Faith - https://maps.google.com/?cid=9372981153528200804

Thank you, added to the map.
Title: Re: The Cure Pilgrim Route
Post by: dsanchez on August 15, 2018, 15:01:09
Quote from: chemicaloverload on August 13, 2018, 23:31:32
Can you imagine this, a pilgrimage of sorts  :D Hire a wee mini bus, get you a little red jacket, we'd be good to go  :lol:

seriously considering this...renting a bus or somehow arranging the whole thing (most of the places are very close, so I don't think transport will be an issue). we should plan this carefully, maybe for next year we can end the trip in a Cure show!
Title: Re: The Cure Pilgrim Route
Post by: chemicaloverload on August 15, 2018, 17:35:32
Quote from: dsanchez on August 15, 2018, 15:01:09
Quote from: chemicaloverload on August 13, 2018, 23:31:32
Can you imagine this, a pilgrimage of sorts  :D Hire a wee mini bus, get you a little red jacket, we'd be good to go  :lol:

seriously considering this...renting a bus or somehow arranging the whole thing (most of the places are very close, so I don't think transport will be an issue). we should plan this carefully, maybe for next year we can end the trip in a Cure show!

Oh hell yes. If it can be done, I'm in!
Title: Re: The Cure Pilgrim Route
Post by: desintegration on August 15, 2018, 22:30:23
Quote from: dsanchez on August 15, 2018, 15:01:09
Quote from: chemicaloverload on August 13, 2018, 23:31:32
Can you imagine this, a pilgrimage of sorts  :D Hire a wee mini bus, get you a little red jacket, we'd be good to go  :lol:

seriously considering this...renting a bus or somehow arranging the whole thing (most of the places are very close, so I don't think transport will be an issue). we should plan this carefully, maybe for next year we can end the trip in a Cure show!
This would be amazing, maybe during their next tour when they have the uk dates? :o
Title: Re: The Cure Pilgrim Route
Post by: chemicaloverload on August 16, 2018, 22:26:16
It should end in Beachy Head. Where we can eat fish and chips and have an ice cream, look out on to the sea. I feel like this should be made into a camping trip, a road trip
Title: Re: The Cure Pilgrim Route
Post by: dsanchez on October 30, 2018, 12:28:50
Crawley's landmarks (please let us know if we're missing any). For details check http://bit.ly/TheCurePlaces

Railway
Worth Park
St Wilfrid's Catholic Comprehensive Secondary School
Saint Francis of Assisi Catholic Primary School
Memorial Gardens
Lol Tolhurst Bridge - this is not the official name of the bridge by the way :)
Worth Abbey
Furnace Green
Queens Square
St Edward the Confessor
Smith & Western
Northgate Community Centre
Crawley College
The Montefiore Institute
Title: Re: The Cure Pilgrim Route
Post by: piggymirror on October 10, 2019, 00:05:26
Shouldn't you add Blackpool? Robert was born there, after all.
Title: Re: The Cure Pilgrim Route
Post by: sandgrounder on April 17, 2020, 22:24:12
Quote from: chemicaloverload on August 16, 2018, 22:26:16It should end in Beachy Head. Where we can eat fish and chips and have an ice cream, look out on to the sea. I feel like this should be made into a camping trip, a road trip

And then all climb inside a wardrobe and throw ourselves over the cliff edge.
Was this trip ever organised?
Title: Re: The Cure Pilgrim Route
Post by: dsanchez on April 17, 2020, 22:53:31
Quote from: sandgrounder on April 17, 2020, 22:24:12And then all climb inside a wardrobe and throw ourselves over the cliff edge.
Was this trip ever organised?

No, but let's plan it for 2021 perhaps? @chemicaloverload what time of the year do you think is the best?
Title: Re: The Cure Pilgrim Route
Post by: dsanchez on April 18, 2020, 22:12:00
Quote from: dsanchez on October 30, 2018, 12:28:50Worth Abbey

Just found out Robert also got married at this place!

Title: Re: The Cure Pilgrim Route
Post by: tzare on April 18, 2020, 22:19:57
I'd love to visit some of the places for sure. Especially some of the ones appearing in their video clips.
But also, stealthy, visiting where the members live, just to know a bit more about their ordinary life
Title: Re: The Cure Pilgrim Route
Post by: dsanchez on April 19, 2020, 00:26:47
Quote from: tzare on April 18, 2020, 22:19:57I'd love to visit some of the places for sure. Especially some of the ones appearing in their video clips.
But also, stealthy, visiting where the members live, just to know a bit more about their ordinary life

Pilgrim route is for the places related to the band's history... Going to where the members live is out of scope (and personally I don't think is good idea - not to mention I have no clue where they live)
Title: Re: The Cure Pilgrim Route
Post by: sandgrounder on April 20, 2020, 10:38:09
Quote from: dsanchez on April 19, 2020, 00:26:47
Quote from: tzare on April 18, 2020, 22:19:57I'd love to visit some of the places for sure. Especially some of the ones appearing in their video clips.
But also, stealthy, visiting where the members live, just to know a bit more about their ordinary life

Pilgrim route is for the places related to the band's history... Going to where the members live is out of scope (and personally I don't think is good idea - not to mention I have no clue where they live)

I know where Robert now lives but such personal information should never be posted on forums. With regards to a tour of key Cure landmarks, some of them may leave you disappointed. 'The Rocket (Railway)' pub is now unrecognisable from the 1970's and will have no "feel" of The Cure. The 'Hope & Anchor' pub in North London may be a more authentic venue.

Also, visiting their former schools during term-time would be unadvisable for obvious reasons.

The Post Office where Robert worked at for a few days is still in Crawley but I believe that the plastics factory where Simon worked has been closed for many years.

Blackpool, Robert's birthplace, is a town you will either love or hate, and Crawley known for being a boring town.

Unlike the former homes of The Beatles in Liverpool which have been turned into museums (and The Cavern has been re-created at a different address), the childhood homes of The Cure are regular houses.

A tour would still be fun though
Title: Re: The Cure Pilgrim Route
Post by: dsanchez on April 20, 2020, 11:52:32
Quote from: sandgrounder on April 20, 2020, 10:38:09The Post Office where Robert worked at for a few days is still in Crawley but I believe that the plastics factory where Simon worked has been closed for many years.

Is this one? https://www.postoffice.co.uk/branch-finder/1789120/crawley if yes, I will add it to the landmarks :)

Quote from: sandgrounder on April 20, 2020, 10:38:09A tour would still be fun though

Would like to plan this for next year if there's people interested.
Title: Re: The Cure Pilgrim Route
Post by: sandgrounder on April 20, 2020, 19:49:00
I think it may be this one -
Crawley Royal Mail Delivery Office | Sorting Office | Post Office Collections

Crawley Delivery Office, 7 The Boulevard

Crawley

West Sussex

RH10 1AA

Title: Re: The Cure Pilgrim Route
Post by: dsanchez on October 13, 2020, 19:25:41
Adding one more place to the list: Horley's King Pub:

Title: Re: The Cure Pilgrim Route
Post by: dsanchez on October 13, 2020, 23:24:08
Adding Brighton Electric Studios to the route. This is a studio where The Cure has rehearsed in recent years.

https://brightonelectric.co.uk/clients/
Title: Re: The Cure Pilgrim Route
Post by: chemicaloverload on October 19, 2020, 09:07:40
Quote from: dsanchez on April 17, 2020, 22:53:31
Quote from: sandgrounder on April 17, 2020, 22:24:12And then all climb inside a wardrobe and throw ourselves over the cliff edge.
Was this trip ever organised?

No, but let's plan it for 2021 perhaps? @chemicaloverload what time of the year do you think is the best?

Summer :)
Title: Re: The Cure Pilgrim Route
Post by: dsanchez on October 20, 2020, 19:20:13
Please find here the proposal (https://docs.google.com/document/d/e/2PACX-1vSPaJHVtNHs4PHh_58MrywC_rdyVG6KdI0UUx5PRF9xaQffeK4yb4bpRl-lv4Amddn-o8dLbyHuSIJf/pub) for doing The Pilgrim Route. The plan is June/July 2021. Four nights to see several Cure landmarks.
Title: Re: The Cure Pilgrim Route
Post by: Candystripedlegs on October 20, 2020, 22:47:32
Hello everyone, I just signed up here Today. I hope join you all on this wonderful  pilgrimage. I love The Cure and I think this is a great idea. I'd love to help out in the planning or researching.  Thanks.
Title: Re: The Cure Pilgrim Route
Post by: dsanchez on October 20, 2020, 23:02:31
Quote from: Candystripedlegs on October 20, 2020, 22:47:32Hello everyone, I just signed up here Today. I hope join you all on this wonderful  pilgrimage. I love The Cure and I think this is a great idea. I'd love to help out in the planning or researching.  Thanks.

Hi, welcome to curefans.com and thanks for your interest! you will hear more as the time approaches and hopefully we can work this out. Take cure!
Title: Re: The Cure Pilgrim Route
Post by: dsanchez on November 23, 2020, 19:19:46
With the encouraging news of several vaccines that seem to offer good protection from covid-19, we will be resuming this project and are planning the pilgrimage sometime in the week of 5th July 2021, probably starting 7th and ending 11th July. If you are REALLY interested please write a comment or send me a private message. Thanks!

Proposal for The Cure's Pilgrim Route (https://docs.google.com/document/d/e/2PACX-1vSPaJHVtNHs4PHh_58MrywC_rdyVG6KdI0UUx5PRF9xaQffeK4yb4bpRl-lv4Amddn-o8dLbyHuSIJf/pub)
Title: Re: The Cure Pilgrim Route
Post by: dsanchez on January 07, 2021, 00:52:20
"The Apple Tree" added to the Pilgrim route:

QuoteWe first played the Rocket pub in Crawley, by the railway station. We used to hang out at The Apple Tree on Sunday lunch times too. Occasionally the blues guys would let us play a song or two

https://www.crawleyobserver.co.uk/heritage-and-retro/retro/can-you-help-crawley-museum-celebrate-cure-2052742
Title: Re: The Cure Pilgrim Route
Post by: dsanchez on June 25, 2021, 00:10:44
Quote from: dsanchez on October 20, 2020, 19:20:13Please find here the proposal (https://docs.google.com/document/d/e/2PACX-1vSPaJHVtNHs4PHh_58MrywC_rdyVG6KdI0UUx5PRF9xaQffeK4yb4bpRl-lv4Amddn-o8dLbyHuSIJf/pub) for doing The Pilgrim Route. The plan is June/July 2021. Four nights to see several Cure landmarks.

Due the current situation the trip is postponed to 2022...
Title: Re: The Cure Pilgrim Route
Post by: Ms_Mephistopheles on June 28, 2021, 00:44:48
Brighton Electric is ten minutes walk from my house. Pure coincidence and certainly not why I moved here, but it makes me chuckle to consider that I might see Cure members milling about while I'm on the way to Sainsburys one day. It's a  large Victorian tram depot that has been renovated. Not an unpleasant building but probably not worth going out of your way for. Beachy Head looks very scenic though.

Like you, I view going near RS's house as incredibly inconsiderate and the idea that folk do makes me cringe, but I have to say that it is an oddly comforting thought at night that RS is a little further down the coast star-gazing.

I've got the South Downs way on my list but nothing Cure-related. I am kind of morbidly intrigued as to how awful Crawley might be given RS's bleak descriptions. An adolescence in suburbia is outside of my frame of reference given my rural upbringing. I wouldn't go out of my way though to look in on it - I'll take RS's word for it!
Title: Re: The Cure Pilgrim Route
Post by: SueC on June 28, 2021, 03:38:54
Quote from: Ms_Mephistopheles on June 28, 2021, 00:44:48...while I'm on the way to Sainsburys one day.

...in the late 90s I visited the UK for four months and put on 5kg eating three unnecessary but delicious food items: 1) Sainsburys Strawberry Trifle - do they still make that and is it still as good? 2) McVitie's Chocolate Digestive Biscuits (I can get those here but they've lost a bit of their shine now that I'm no longer freezing cold all the time) 3) those delicious doughnuts sold hot in the street with real jam actually containing fruit in the centre (this does not happen in the US or Australia unless you make your own)


Quote from: Ms_Mephistopheles on June 28, 2021, 00:44:48Like you, I view going near RS's house as incredibly inconsiderate and the idea that folk do makes me cringe, but I have to say that it is an oddly comforting thought at night that RS is a little further down the coast star-gazing.

I'm so glad to see this decency re privacy - some fans remind me of Dementors - including the apparent inner emptiness that necessitates the behaviour. Of course, that ties back into community mental health and each of us having a role in helping other people not feel so isolated and alone.

And I can relate to the second part of your sentence - that's a normal and healthy phenomenon IMO, to be happy to be sharing the world with certain other people - including people who can spell and write whole paragraphs!   :winking_tongue  :cool

It's particularly nice when you discover that there's rather more people whose feelings and ideas you can relate to than you initially thought, or than you might glean from your immediate environment or the news cycle. Usually we first make that discovery as teenagers, but it's still exciting at potential granny/granddad age! Even when you're now married to a relatable person, which is a big big thing, it's still super cool to make these discoveries and it still makes me happy.  :)


Quote from: Ms_Mephistopheles on June 28, 2021, 00:44:48I am kind of morbidly intrigued as to how awful Crawley might be given RS's bleak descriptions.

I always imagine our local equivalent in Western Australia is Rockingham, at least how that used to be when I was a teenager. Full of rednecks, homophobes, xenophobes, hostile drunkenness, hoon driving, gang aggression and bullying, and there because of industry. I didn't live there but knew people who did. It was like the polar opposite to living in progressive, cultural and multi-cultural Fremantle...

I've been to Sussex (as a child for a week in 1982) and remember the rolling hills and the hedges between fields - was staying in Dallington/Healthfield and went on a trip to Hastings, where I bought my first-ever book in the English language (Richard Adams's Favourite Animal Stories, gorgeous hardback, still have it, contains Kipling's The Cat That Walked By Himself). Sheepdog trials on the TV which is where I first saw Border Collies!
Title: Re: The Cure Pilgrim Route
Post by: Ulrich on June 28, 2021, 12:52:14
Quote from: Ms_Mephistopheles on June 28, 2021, 00:44:48I have to say that it is an oddly comforting thought at night that RS is a little further down the coast star-gazing.

That is cool, I'd probably be the same if I lived there!

(I was in Brighton twice, back in '99 and again in 2012, I liked it there. As for Crawley, it's probably okay if you just "visit", avtually living there as a teenager is probably worse.)
Title: Re: The Cure Pilgrim Route
Post by: spiralcure on January 14, 2022, 01:32:55
Are there still plans to do this in 2022? Hopefully the world will be safe for travel then... How about The Bray Hotel (https://swench.net/2016/07/22/the-beatles-the-cure-the-who-and-bray/) in Ireland? supposedly where most of the lyrics for Disintegration were written. Obscure runner-up: Uyea Sound (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uyeasound) from Lost Wishes.
Title: Re: The Cure Pilgrim Route
Post by: dsanchez on January 15, 2022, 13:48:04
Thanks for reaching! The short answer is: we don't know. I believe Covid will be over by next year and thus I see 2023 as more likely. Having said that, this is something we curefans must do, else we will regret all our life. Keep an eye on this topic as we post updates.