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Title: The Cure nominated to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame
Post by: dsanchez on October 13, 2018, 23:58:11
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zwqhOcgdV8A

To vote go here: https://www.rockhall.com/fanvote/

The Cure is currently in the position #3 (https://www.rockhall.com/fanvote/standings) with 82658 votes behind Stevie Nicks and Def Leppard.
Title: Re: The Cure nominated to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame
Post by: siamese twin on November 02, 2018, 05:31:43
I can't Believe there is No Promoting Fans to vote here. The CURE  is currently in 4th place having been Passed by Ted Nugent last week and are now being threatened by The Zombies (a band I also like). C'mon CURE fans you can Vote once a day...
Title: Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Vote
Post by: siamese twin on November 02, 2018, 05:36:33
The Cure is lagging Behind in the voting. C'mon CURE fans, get with it, you can Vote once a Day! I think Robert wants to be There...
Title: Re: The Cure nominated to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame
Post by: Ulrich on November 02, 2018, 09:31:49
Quite frankly: I never considered the Cure a "rock'n'roll band" - there are only a few songs which might be described as "rock" or "alternative rock" or whatever...

Additionally I do consider this whole "Rock & Roll Hall of Fame" a bit of a joke. (When you look at which bands were in and which were not at some points in time!)

I'm pretty sure: on the one hand Robert would be pleased if they'd "get in", but on the other hand he doesn't really care about such things, as this is more about "the music business" than anything else...
Title: Re: The Cure nominated to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame
Post by: dsanchez on November 02, 2018, 10:58:42
Quote from: siamese twin on November 02, 2018, 05:36:33
The Cure is lagging Behind in the voting. C'mon CURE fans, get with it, you can Vote once a Day! I think Robert wants to be There...

I don't think Robert cares too much. After all, he said this about The Cure:

We've never been a fashionable band, and we never will be.

Being part of the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame does not make them greater than they already are. The Cure's music is not a popularity contest.

Having said that, I already voted and might vote again :)
Title: Re: The Cure nominated to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame
Post by: dsanchez on November 02, 2018, 11:10:42
Quote from: siamese twin on November 02, 2018, 05:36:33
C'mon CURE fans, get with it, you can Vote once a Day!

Just casted my vote again :)
Title: Re: The Cure nominated to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame
Post by: MeltingMan on November 02, 2018, 11:32:45
I really admire Janet Jackson and Kraftwerk, but putting The Cure in the same pot
is quite unbelievable. It seems as if all "baby-boomers" voted for Stevie Nicks and Def
Leppard. Sorry folks, not my business.
Title: Re: The Cure nominated to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame
Post by: chemicaloverload on November 02, 2018, 13:41:40
It's a popularity contest. Why must we box people in and choose?

Computer says no
Title: Re: The Cure nominated to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame
Post by: Ulrich on November 02, 2018, 14:12:28
Quote from: MeltingMan on November 02, 2018, 11:32:45
... for Stevie Nicks and Def Leppard.

These are exactly the kind of "bands" which I think fit the R&R HoF quite well!  :stuck_out_tongue_closed_eyes:
Title: Re: The Cure nominated to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame
Post by: MeltingMan on November 02, 2018, 15:28:38
Quote from: chemicaloverload on November 02, 2018, 13:41:40Why must we box people in and choose?

That's true. All of them deserve actually a price for their work and not a place in a "Hall of Fame".
I only have to look at LL Cool J and Rage Against The Machine and I know: they deserve it.
So many artists have already left us - forever. That's why a vote itself is almost impossible.
Title: Re: The Cure nominated to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame
Post by: tanyasmith on November 02, 2018, 18:06:11
The Cure is catching up! It feels like a sport now. Go team Cure! Ha ha. Actually, I didn't know we could vote once a day every day. I just cast mine again today. If enough Cure people catch on, they'll win like that.
Title: Re: The Cure nominated to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame
Post by: MeltingMan on November 02, 2018, 18:43:16
OK. I voted for The Cure too. Don't want to be outdone. See you tomorrow!  ;)
Title: Re: The Cure nominated to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame
Post by: MeltingMan on November 03, 2018, 11:04:18
Second ballot. This time I voted for five artists including The Cure. It looks good so far.
Title: Re: The Cure nominated to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame
Post by: tanyasmith on November 03, 2018, 16:53:24
I just voted again today. How long until the vote closes?

For anybody wanting to vote: (you can vote once every day)

https://www.rockhall.com/fanvote/?fbclid=IwAR1nT2NZwCpZ1bY1ScHKS59WFS76dkhSdntKw9sqIQ-vkGZyqUuhYcNALzU
Title: Re: The Cure nominated to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame
Post by: MeltingMan on November 03, 2018, 17:11:32
Quote from: tanyasmith on November 03, 2018, 16:53:24
How long until the vote closes?

9 December 12pm European Standard Time (!)
Title: Re: The Cure nominated to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame
Post by: MeltingMan on November 04, 2018, 10:25:27
Third ballot. I continue to vote every day. The gap between third and fourth place is narrow.
Come on Curefans members!
Title: Re: The Cure nominated to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame
Post by: tanyasmith on November 05, 2018, 03:05:23
Thanks for the reminder, Melting Man! I just voted for today.
Title: Re: The Cure nominated to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame
Post by: MeltingMan on November 05, 2018, 10:04:55
Fourth ballot. The Cure need more votes!  :-D :-D :-D
Title: Re: The Cure nominated to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame
Post by: tanyasmith on November 06, 2018, 02:43:05
Looks that they're up 5,000 votes. I'm only voting for The Cure each day.
Title: Re: The Cure nominated to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame
Post by: MeltingMan on November 06, 2018, 09:34:56
Fifth ballot: The Cure vs. The Zombies and the lead of 2000 votes is melting away.  :(


Quote from: tanyasmith on November 06, 2018, 02:43:05
I'm only voting for The Cure each day.

Are you following a specific strategy? Just curious.
Title: Re: The Cure nominated to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame
Post by: tanyasmith on November 06, 2018, 17:16:53
Well it seems if we only vote for The Cure, we won't help the other contenders get leads. The Cure is the only band up there that I listen to anyway.
Title: Re: The Cure nominated to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame
Post by: MeltingMan on November 07, 2018, 08:57:55
Quote from: tanyasmith on November 06, 2018, 17:16:53
Well it seems if we only vote for The Cure, we won't help the other contenders get leads.

I attempted the same today and encountered problems immediately. The site has been overridden.
Will try again tomorrow.  :?
Title: Re: The Cure nominated to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame
Post by: Ulrich on November 07, 2018, 09:22:08
Quote from: MeltingMan on November 07, 2018, 08:57:55
The site has been overridden.

Too many Cure fans trying to vote?  :D
Title: Re: The Cure nominated to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame
Post by: MeltingMan on November 07, 2018, 10:53:47
Quote from: Ulrich on November 07, 2018, 09:22:08
Too many Cure fans trying to vote?  :D

That would be surprising. Our community is numerical inferior (as mentioned before).
I'm doing this for The Cure, so I'm an idealist in that way. But I suppose they will
lose the fourth place sooner or later, unless the 60 000 from the London show this
year will vote every day. This is perhaps not the case. Hope the best.  :cool
Title: Re: The Cure nominated to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame
Post by: tanyasmith on November 07, 2018, 17:45:16
I just voted and had no trouble, but I see The Cure is now in 5th place. I'm going to keep voting every day anyway. Hopefully the 70,000 will come running before it's too late. ;-) I pinned a note about voting on my youtube channel, so hopefully that will help bring in some votes.
Title: Re: The Cure nominated to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame
Post by: MeltingMan on November 08, 2018, 09:40:11
Sixth ballot: The Cure is catching up again. 13 000 votes within 48 hours - not bad.
Didn't get through yesterday...

Quote from: tanyasmith on November 07, 2018, 17:45:16I pinned a note about voting on my youtube channel, so hopefully that will help bring in some votes.

Good idea. I think The Cure need the support of all (active) Curefans members.
What about a circular letter in the final week? Just a thought.
Title: Re: The Cure nominated to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame
Post by: Ulrich on November 08, 2018, 10:50:39
Quote from: MeltingMan on November 07, 2018, 10:53:47
unless the 60 000 from the London show this year will vote every day...

Well, what about the millions who bought the records? Or those who went to the many live shows of 2016?
There are other forums (I think), Facebook groups etc.!
Also, if the band wanted fans to vote they could announce it via twitter, official homepage & FB? Thus probably reaching (a lot) more than 60,000?
Title: Re: The Cure nominated to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame
Post by: MeltingMan on November 08, 2018, 11:51:48
I think The Cure can reach a respectable third place. But then we need a lot more votes every day.
We still have just a month. I'm not a megalomaniac. I had my doubts in the beginning, but now I see
it from a sportive point.
Title: Re: The Cure nominated to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame
Post by: word_on_a_wing on November 18, 2018, 12:55:26
Giving this topic a nudge...

...and as mentioned already, each day you can cast a new vote.

https://www.rockhall.com/fanvote/
Title: Re: The Cure nominated to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame
Post by: MeltingMan on November 18, 2018, 17:47:46
I continue to vote every morning. The number of the daily ballots for The Cure
has dropped from 6000 to 2000 roughly. If nothing changes, The Cure will lose
its fifth place in the final week at the latest. What is wrong? I don't get it.  :?
Title: Re: The Cure nominated to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame
Post by: Ulrich on November 18, 2018, 17:57:58
Quote from: MeltingMan on November 18, 2018, 17:47:46
What is wrong? I don't get it.  :?

Nothing. Everything is all right. The band never asked their fans to vote. I have no idea if RS would even say "yes" to coming to a ceremony (especially as with many older bands, the HoF "only" invites the older members who were in the band "back in the day", i.e. he could not go there with the current line-up - as you remember he even did the Meltdown thing with them, although he was not supposed to do a "Cure" show...)!
Title: Re: The Cure nominated to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame
Post by: chemicaloverload on November 18, 2018, 19:53:40
Quote from: Ulrich on November 18, 2018, 17:57:58
Quote from: MeltingMan on November 18, 2018, 17:47:46
What is wrong? I don't get it.  :?

Nothing. Everything is all right. The band never asked their fans to vote. I have no idea if RS would even say "yes" to coming to a ceremony (especially as with many older bands, the HoF "only" invites the older members who were in the band "back in the day", i.e. he could not go there with the current line-up - as you remember he even did the Meltdown thing with them, although he was not supposed to do a "Cure" show...)!

bingo
Title: Re: The Cure nominated to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame
Post by: tanyasmith on November 18, 2018, 22:08:36
Thanks for the reminder to vote today! I've been keeping up, too. I guess not enough Cure fans know they can vote everyday. Oh well...They're number one in our hearts. And luckily this Rock n Roll Hall of Fame is not a true measure of talent or artistry. Case in point: Def Leppard at #1? Ha ha.  :D :D :D
Title: Re: The Cure nominated to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame
Post by: chemicaloverload on November 18, 2018, 22:10:33
hahaha Tanya  :rofl
Title: Re: The Cure nominated to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame
Post by: tanyasmith on November 18, 2018, 22:16:28
Actually, The Cure did put up a request to have fans vote on their Twitter page, which I questioned because Bob has publicly expressed dissent and dislike of things of such, most notably when he said that he'd turn down being knighted by the Monarchy; however, the Rock n Roll Hall of Fame is not just a status thing, but a democratic process by the people, so I wouldn't think he'd be opposed to winning something like that. And he has gone to accept awards before related to music. Anyway, 5th place is a decent place to be and I'll keep voting until the end.
Title: Re: The Cure nominated to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame
Post by: tanyasmith on November 18, 2018, 22:17:01
Quote from: chemicaloverload on November 18, 2018, 22:10:33
hahaha Tanya  :rofl

:D
Title: Re: The Cure nominated to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame
Post by: Ulrich on November 19, 2018, 09:19:58
Quote from: tanyasmith on November 18, 2018, 22:16:28
Actually, The Cure did put up a request to have fans vote on their Twitter page

Whoah, I didn't know. I'm not on twitter so I'm relying on other Cure fans sharing such things!

You hit the right comment with the Def Leppard thing, btw. That's not the "rock'n'roll" I like to listen to.
Title: Re: The Cure nominated to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame
Post by: MeltingMan on November 19, 2018, 10:17:27
Quote from: tanyasmith on November 18, 2018, 22:16:28
Actually, The Cure did put up a request to have fans vote on their Twitter page,

Ahh...that's good. And I thought we have (once again) a serious communication problem.

:smth023
Title: Re: The Cure nominated to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame
Post by: tanyasmith on November 19, 2018, 17:42:43
Here's something related published yesterday by UltimateClassicRock.com: 5 Reasons The Cure Should Be in the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame

http://ultimateclassicrock.com/cure-hall-of-fame-reasons/?fbclid=IwAR0GKtqMa4ocUnPoNlJO4jCUkVS_ZnGltRpTHcSX8QcN8XYPFVPpHKu34fE

Who is managing Curefans on Twitter and Facebook? Curefans on Twitter tweeted about the Rock n Roll Hall of Fame. 
Title: Re: The Cure nominated to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame
Post by: Ulrich on November 19, 2018, 18:04:06
Quote from: tanyasmith on November 19, 2018, 17:42:43
Who is managing Curefans on Twitter and Facebook? Curefans on Twitter tweeted about the Rock n Roll Hall of Fame.

Ah, that is David (dsanchez, our dear Admin here) who does twitter, he also does FB (with very little help from little me).
So it wasn't the band who sent out anything about HoF? (If so, I can only guess they're not very interested in it.)
Title: Re: The Cure nominated to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame
Post by: tanyasmith on November 19, 2018, 22:36:31
Quote from: Ulrich on November 19, 2018, 18:04:06
Quote from: tanyasmith on November 19, 2018, 17:42:43
Who is managing Curefans on Twitter and Facebook? Curefans on Twitter tweeted about the Rock n Roll Hall of Fame.

Ah, that is David (dsanchez, our dear Admin here) who does twitter, he also does FB (with very little help from little me).
So it wasn't the band who sent out anything about HoF? (If so, I can only guess they're not very interested in it.)

Awww, sweet. You guys are doing a great job on Twitter and Facebook.

Yes, The Cure did put out a notice about the Hall of Fame on both their Twitter page and their Facebook page. I believe Curefans (David) retweeted The Cure's post about the Hall of Fame.
Title: Re: The Cure nominated to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame
Post by: Ulrich on November 20, 2018, 09:02:58
Quote from: tanyasmith on November 19, 2018, 22:36:31
Awww, sweet. You guys are doing a great job on Twitter and Facebook.

Yes, The Cure did put out a notice about the Hall of Fame on both their Twitter page and their Facebook page. I believe Curefans (David) retweeted The Cure's post about the Hall of Fame.

Thank you for kind comments.
Well I did look on the FB Curefans page, but I didn't find it. Will look on the official Cure FB and re-post/share it on Curefans if possible.
Title: Re: The Cure nominated to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame
Post by: MeltingMan on November 20, 2018, 10:32:36
Quote from: Ulrich on November 19, 2018, 18:04:06
So it wasn't the band who sent out anything about HoF? (If so, I can only guess they're not very interested in it.)

Well, the nomination itself of The Cure (and others) was possibly an error. Despite that I think we should
mobilize all effort to strengthen their position. A third place is out of reach, of course. This is not
only a popularity contest, but also a loyalty test, so every loyal fan has to vote every day.
Title: Re: The Cure nominated to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame
Post by: Ulrich on November 20, 2018, 12:55:18
On FB I could not find the older posts/threads about HoF, so I created a new one with the link to HoF.

Anyone in touch with Craig from the "chain of flowers" blog/website? That is one of THE internet sources for Cure info, so if he'd do a re-post about HoF it might help!

Quote from: MeltingMan on November 20, 2018, 10:32:36
Well, the nomination itself of The Cure (and others) was possibly an error.

I've often wondered how the nominations were done and who thinks about them...  :1f635:
Title: Re: The Cure nominated to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame
Post by: tanyasmith on November 21, 2018, 01:11:00
Well, I see The Cure or whoever manages the official Cure pages on Twitter and Facebook have removed their postings about the Hall of Fame, which tells me that either a Cure member, a friend of a Cure member, or somebody affiliated with The Cure, like PR have been following this thread...OR it could be a coincidence. I went back to my Twitter page to find the posting The Cure made about the Hall of Fame, but it was gone, so I searched for some notifications of replies from Cure fans who made comments to my comments underneath the posting that The Cure had posted about the Hall of Fame (I said something to the effect that it didn't seem like something Robert Smith would endorse, but I'd vote anyway) and the notifications are gone because the posting is gone...It IS Mercury Retrograde which causes confusion, mishaps, computer issues, and communication problems, so it could be due to that, and we may see the postings reappear.

Title: Re: The Cure nominated to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame
Post by: Ulrich on November 21, 2018, 09:49:47
Quote from: tanyasmith on November 21, 2018, 01:11:00
Well, I see The Cure or whoever manages the official Cure pages on Twitter and Facebook have removed their postings about the Hall of Fame

Ah okay, that's why I found nothing!!
I myself would guess that the band is not too interested right now in HoF (for reasons I'd mentioned before).

Thus, keep voting if you feel like it, however there's no need to feel "bad" if you don't.  :cool
Title: Re: The Cure nominated to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame
Post by: MeltingMan on November 21, 2018, 10:40:26
The Cure needs actually 10 000 votes per day to make progress. As mentioned before, millions
have bought the albums, live shows are sold out within a couple of days and what I see so far is,
carefully spoken, lame. It's not helpful for the team spirit to figuring out if current Cure members are
interested or not. The nomination alone wasn't pure chance, was it? So I do believe that Robert has
an eye on the whole outcome, and, of course, he is an artist! I don't believe that he doesn't care at all.
The fact that specific remarks or notes have been removed from Twitter and Fb shows their loyalty to
"team Cure" at least for a while. What I can fully agree with is that Robert indeed doesn't care if they
receive more mainstream votes or not. No question. OK - I must stop here and calm down a bit.
Title: Re: The Cure nominated to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame
Post by: Ulrich on November 21, 2018, 10:57:05
Quote from: MeltingMan on November 21, 2018, 10:40:26
So I do believe that Robert has an eye on the whole outcome

What fact does point to that? As far as is known, Robert does not do much at all on the internet.

The post I set off on Curefans FB had (due to official numbers from FB) reached 271 persons this morning. Go figure how many votes this will bring.
Did you (or anyone) write to Craig from CoF asking if he'd do a re-post?
Title: Re: The Cure nominated to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame
Post by: word_on_a_wing on November 21, 2018, 12:24:43
Quote from: tanyasmith on November 21, 2018, 01:11:00
Well, I see The Cure or whoever manages the official Cure pages on Twitter and Facebook have removed their postings about the Hall of Fame,

...I just looked at The Cure Twitter posts and it is still there, posted 13/10.  I'm assuming it's not just me that can see it right?
Title: Re: The Cure nominated to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame
Post by: Ulrich on November 21, 2018, 13:01:30
Quote from: word_on_a_wing on November 21, 2018, 12:24:43
...I just looked at The Cure Twitter posts and it is still there, posted 13/10. 

It is indeed:
https://twitter.com/thecure/status/1050785220608299008

Possibly I couldn't find it on FB as it's buried underneath a mass of posts about the upcoming festival gigs. Somebody there should re-post it.
Title: Re: The Cure nominated to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame
Post by: MeltingMan on November 21, 2018, 16:45:15
Quote from: Ulrich on November 21, 2018, 10:57:05
What fact does point to that? As far as is known, Robert does not do much at all on the internet.

The post I set off on Curefans FB had (due to official numbers from FB) reached 271 persons this morning. Go figure how many votes this will bring.
Did you (or anyone) write to Craig from CoF asking if he'd do a re-post?

OK. I'll send you a PM tomorrow - in German.  ;)
Title: Re: The Cure nominated to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame
Post by: Ulrich on November 21, 2018, 18:42:50
Dsanchez has been busy too and re-posted it on Twitter several times!
https://twitter.com/curefans/status/1065171720993091587
:smth023
Title: Re: The Cure nominated to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame
Post by: tanyasmith on November 21, 2018, 19:12:56
Thank you for finding the posting on Twitter and sharing the link, Ulrich!  :heart-eyes

In terms of Robert Smith not being internet active, I call BS. I know he's said it publicly several times that he's not active on the internet, most recently from Wembley in December 2016: "And first I'd like to thank you, actually, for coming, and since this always goes on the f*cking internet, everyone else that came to all the other shows, sorry if I sound sarcastic, but I'm just not used to the internet."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5pEKRPzJfNQ

And which should we believe more, when Robert says he's not used to the internet or: "no one should ever fall in love with a performer. You can fall in love with a band,  fall in love with the music, but never fall for the trick of the performer. It's junk!"

Watch the whole interview here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PG16diVVz50

Actually one of the funniest moments was when The Cure was playing at Wembley and Robert said this: "It's weird that we haven't played this song in the last three days...but according to Wikipedia we haven't. f*ck off!" Since when does Wikipedia report on what songs a band plays on tour? Ha ha ha! Many of us laughed at the (simulated?) naivete. He is very charming, and somehow knowing that he knows that makes him even more charming. :-)



Title: Re: The Cure nominated to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame
Post by: word_on_a_wing on November 21, 2018, 22:59:25
"In terms of Robert Smith not being internet active, I call BS."
...I agree, I think he's likely to have his eyes open in general, and to not view the internet would perhaps be like a closed-eyes approach in this day and age.  I wonder if perhaps (like many) there is a preference for things such as the rich experience of vinyl instead of downloading music etc, but I doubt he completely closes his eyes to it.

"when Robert says he's not used to the internet or: "no one should ever fall in love with a performer. You can fall in love with a band,  fall in love with the music, but never fall for the trick of the performer. It's junk!"
...anyone studying Sociology? There could likely be a good thesis topic in this area :)
This is what I love about Bowie, that as soon as the audience would start feeling attached to (and loving) him (or perhaps more accurately who they perceived he was)...he would change shape!  ...what is left? To fall in love with that which is undefinable?
Title: Re: The Cure nominated to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame
Post by: tanyasmith on November 22, 2018, 01:30:40
Quote from: word_on_a_wing on November 21, 2018, 22:59:25


" ...anyone studying Sociology? There could likely be a good thesis topic in this area :)
This is what I love about Bowie, that as soon as the audience would start feeling attached to (and loving) him (or perhaps more accurately who they perceived he was)...he would change shape!  ...what is left? To fall in love with that which is undefinable?

I agree it would be a good thesis topic, as it's pretty common to fall in love with a band member, artist, celebrity, etc.

I don't think performers are as contrived as one might think, yet they're not always spontaneous and just in the right place at the right time all the time either. I don't know much about Bowie other than his songs, (Sound and Vision, Starman my favorites), but I've spent a lot of time learning info on Robert Smith, and it seems to me that he works far harder than he likes to give off. He once said he only does what he wants, but I think he was in some state of mind when saying that, was just really in the moment because it's just not possible that he only ever does what he wants and maintains his status as "Robert Smith of The Cure" with the world. I do think he's very authentic and has a social conscience, but he also likes to give people that impression (who doesn't)? Anyway, it wouldn't surprise me if he has considerable on-line presence like many of us. He talked about listening to more music when leading up to Meltdown than he ever had before and a lot of those musicians and bands aren't on vinyl, so he had to listen to them the same ways we all listen to new music. Anyway, I could go on...
Title: Re: The Cure nominated to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame
Post by: Ulrich on November 22, 2018, 10:47:11
Quote from: word_on_a_wing on November 21, 2018, 22:59:25
"In terms of Robert Smith not being internet active, I call BS."
...I agree, I think he's likely to have his eyes open in general, and to not view the internet would perhaps be like a closed-eyes approach in this day and age. 

Well, possibly people tell him the general direction things take in fan forums or such... but personally I think it is a wise move to stay away from those. "Googling" yourself can be a bad idea if you're playing in a known band.

Don't forget that apparently he sent out letters (not e-mails!) to the bands he invited to Meltdown!  :1f62e:

Quote from: tanyasmith on November 22, 2018, 01:30:40
... it seems to me that he works far harder than he likes to give off. He once said he only does what he wants, but I think he was in some state of mind when saying that, was just really in the moment because it's just not possible that he only ever does what he wants and maintains his status as "Robert Smith of The Cure" with the world. I do think he's very authentic and has a social conscience...

I do agree, he has to work on certain things. It has been reported that he works hard on the stage set & lighting concept for the Cure shows. Of course, once he decides that he wants to do a tour, he will have to work on those things (if he wants to do 'em himself, which he does).
http://curefans.com/index.php?topic=8607.0

He's always come across as "authentic" to most of us fans. Of course he's been misunderstood by the media - e.g. that they portrayed him as some kind of "king of goth", just because he sang some dark or sad songs...
Title: Re: The Cure nominated to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame
Post by: tanyasmith on November 22, 2018, 19:08:27
I admire Robert Smith for being as involved with the process of their music and behind the scenes as he is instead of giving all the power to a manager or producer. He is the man behind The Cure, not PR specialists.

With that being said, I'm going to vote! https://www.rockhall.com/fanvote/

I'm a vegan, but we have a bunch of people at my house cooking a turkey. Happy Thanksgiving!  :oops: :heart-eyes :cool
Title: Re: The Cure nominated to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame
Post by: Ulrich on November 22, 2018, 20:01:20
Happy Thanksgiving everyone! And don't forget to keep on voting!  :smth023
Title: Re: The Cure nominated to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame
Post by: dsanchez on November 22, 2018, 21:56:51
Quote from: Ulrich on November 21, 2018, 18:42:50
Dsanchez has been busy too and re-posted it on Twitter several times!
https://twitter.com/curefans/status/1065171720993091587 :smth023

Actually I use a service to connect curefans.com with @curefans Twitter so everytime a new topic/reply is posted here, a link to that topic/reply is posted automatically on Twitter (up to 10 tweets/day) :)
Title: Re: The Cure nominated to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame
Post by: Ulrich on November 23, 2018, 08:57:54
Quote from: dsanchez on November 22, 2018, 21:56:51
Actually I use a service to connect curefans.com with @curefans Twitter

Ah, I didn't know that's possible. Thanks for the info!
Title: Re: The Cure nominated to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame
Post by: MeltingMan on November 27, 2018, 09:49:12
Quote from: Rock and Roll HoFYou've voted twenty five times for your favorite Nominees - don't stop now!

:angel  :smth023
Title: Re: The Cure nominated to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame
Post by: tanyasmith on November 27, 2018, 15:36:29
 :smth023 :smth023 :smth023 :heart-eyes
Title: Re: The Cure nominated to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame
Post by: Ulrich on November 30, 2018, 18:15:09
Interesting article about the Hall of Fame:
https://www.cleveland.com/news/2018/11/does-the-rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame-overvalue-commercial-success.html
QuoteThere are various elements to take into account when it comes to an artist's Rock and Roll Hall of Fame candidacy.

However, in the end, it really comes down to two things – significance (which is open to interpretation) and influence.

Considering these 2 things, of course The Cure should be in!  :smth023
Title: Re: The Cure nominated to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame
Post by: Ulrich on December 13, 2018, 16:28:53
So, here we go. Thanks to all you fans who had the discipline to vote daily (especially MeltingMan and Tanya)!
Quote
Congratulations to @TheCure on their induction. We're excited to welcome the post-punk innovators to the Hall of Fame and celebrate with fans. Find bios, special ticket access info, official merch + more here: http://bit.ly/2019Inductees-2
https://twitter.com/rockhall

QuoteThe Cure, Janet Jackson, Radiohead Among Rock & Roll Hall Of Fame Inductees For 2019

https://www.npr.org/2018/12/13/676080749/the-cure-janet-jackson-radiohead-among-rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame-inductees-for-?utm_source=twitter.com&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=nprmusic&utm_term=music&utm_content=2043&t=1544714774688
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As with the nominees list, each year's inductees are determined by a voting group of "over 1,000" previous winners, historians and members of the music industry. Since 2012, the Hall has also included a fan vote, which has no practical mathematical effect on the outcome; the winning top five artists of the fan vote are compiled into a single ballot. That ballot is then factored into the total tally of 1,000-plus votes from the Hall's voting membership. Those members weigh factors "such as an artist's musical influence on other artists, length and depth of career and the body of work, innovation and superiority in style and technique are taken into consideration," the Hall explains of the process.
Title: Re: The Cure nominated to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame
Post by: tanyasmith on December 13, 2018, 20:11:24
It is funny that our fan votes have little influence over the big winner, but didn't we help keep The Cure as one of the top 5 inductees by voting each day? And doesn't the info you posted mean that The Cure could possibly win if the 1,000 music industry people vote them in? I don't think it means much whether The Cure wins or not, but it will definitely boost general fan interest and possibly set the vibe for a world tour in 2020.
Title: Re: The Cure nominated to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame
Post by: Ulrich on December 14, 2018, 09:49:01
Quote from: tanyasmith on December 13, 2018, 20:11:24
It is funny that our fan votes have little influence over the big winner, but didn't we help keep The Cure as one of the top 5 inductees by voting each day?

Yes, you did, which is why I said "thank you" to all you voters!  :smth023
It's just that it's not really "visible" how much the votes did help.
Another quote from the article:
Quote
As Jon Landau, manager of Bruce Springsteen and chair of the Hall's nominating committee — which numbers about three or four dozen — told the Times seven years ago: "We've done a good job of keeping the proceedings nontransparent."

Which was a point of my criticism right from the start...

Quote from: tanyasmith on December 13, 2018, 20:11:24
And doesn't the info you posted mean that The Cure could possibly win if the 1,000 music industry people vote them in?

No, the info posted means they are in! It is official:
https://www.rockhall.com/2019-inductees/the-cure/
Title: Re: The Cure nominated to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame
Post by: Ulrich on December 14, 2018, 12:08:19
https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/cure-lol-tolhurst-rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame-interview-768934/

The group's former drummer-keyboardist says he hopes to reunite with his old bandmates on the big night:

QuoteThey're taking in you, Robert Smith, Porl Thompson, Perry Bamonte, Michael Dempsey, Simon Gallup, Boris Williams, Jason Cooper and Roger O'Donnell. Any mistakes? Did they get that right?
Yeah. I don't really understand their criteria too much. It seems a little arbitrary in some respects. It would be nice to meet everyone again. A couple of those people I haven't seen in ages. That will be good.

Do you think you'll all play together?
I don't know. I'm sure I'll hear from Robert sooner or later about that. If we do, we do. If we don't, I'll be happy to sit there and watch what's going on.

How often do you speak to Robert Smith these days?
Last time I heard from him was probably three or four weeks ago. We're in contact from time to time, and me and Simon, and Michael I talk to quite a lot, and Porl Thompson from time to time and Boris Williams. I keep in touch. I'm sort of like the glue for the whole Cure family.
Title: Re: The Cure nominated to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame
Post by: tanyasmith on December 14, 2018, 18:48:44
Oh I see. I thought there would only be one winner, but now I see that there are seven bands that will be inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. I was just looking into going, but the show is in Brooklyn, and the last time I went to an award show for The Cure (1992 MTV Video Music Awards) they didn't show up! They had been awarded for Friday I'm in Love and MTV played it up as if they'd be there to accept the award and to perform. It was one of the most devastating things of my 14 years to happen, but somehow I made it through. The Cure was on a world tour for Wish at the time, and I believe they were performing somewhere far away the night of the award show.

According to the link posted by Curefans on Twitter, Roger says it's "extremely unlikely" that former band members will be playing at the Hall of Fame show in March. Well, of course he hopes things will go that way because he would be out of a job for the time that Lol rocked the keyboards. Interestingly, both Jason and Lol are Aquarians, so I think Jason would good naturedly yield to Lol for the evening. Aquarians (I am one) are community people and tend to yield to the greater good. Roger, on the other hand is a Scorpio, so not sure he'd walk away from the keys without a sting.


Title: Re: The Cure nominated to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame
Post by: Ulrich on December 15, 2018, 09:40:41
Quote from: tanyasmith on December 14, 2018, 18:48:44
Oh I see. I thought there would only be one winner, but now I see that there are seven bands that will be inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. I was just looking into going, but the show is in Brooklyn, and the last time I went to an award show for The Cure (1992 MTV Video Music Awards) they didn't show up!

Obviously a few members will be there (Lol, Michael...), as for the rest we'll have to wait and see. It's probably Robert who'll decided which line-up(s) will perform which song.
I wouldn't bother going, from what I heard tickets for HoF are expensive. (The inductees won't have to pay, but apparently if they want to bring wives, friends, relatives... they'll have to pay for their seats!)  :1f635:
Title: Re: The Cure nominated to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame
Post by: Ulrich on December 16, 2018, 11:05:58
http://craigjparker.blogspot.com/2018/12/roger-talks-about-hof-and-more.html
Quote
In that WKYC interview, Roger says the band will go into the studio in February to work on the new album. Also says the 2019 World Tour will probably end in South America, and they are talking about playing North American shows in the Autumn.
Title: Re: The Cure nominated to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame
Post by: tanyasmith on December 16, 2018, 16:00:18
So they'll be combining the world tour with playing at festivals? Wow. I don't know why, but I hope the tour will be in 2020 instead. It almost seems rushed to push it all into 2019, and 2020 just seems like one of the best years to come ever, but if it's 2019, I'll get tickets for the shows I can. At this age time seems to go so fast, so I don't mind waiting.
Title: Re: The Cure nominated to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame
Post by: word_on_a_wing on December 16, 2018, 22:35:50
Quote from: tanyasmith on December 16, 2018, 16:00:18
2020 just seems like one of the best years to come ever,

What makes you say that Tanya? 

Here in Australia I'm feeling a tad jealous of how many European and US tours there tend to be 😪
Deep down I am happy for you all though ❤️
Title: Re: The Cure nominated to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame
Post by: dsanchez on December 17, 2018, 11:13:33
Created a separated topic for The Cure's induction which now is a fact http://curefans.com/index.php?topic=8894.0
Title: Re: The Cure nominated to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame
Post by: Ulrich on December 17, 2018, 12:05:35
Quote from: word_on_a_wing on December 16, 2018, 22:35:50
Quote from: tanyasmith on December 16, 2018, 16:00:18
2020 just seems like one of the best years to come ever,

What makes you say that Tanya? 

Hopefully because it will be the last year of Trump's time in office...  ;)
Title: Re: The Cure nominated to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame
Post by: word_on_a_wing on December 17, 2018, 12:33:49
I've had a few dreams of Trump recently, which has really surprised me.  In the last one a younger version of him was running naked, I could only see the back of him and wasn't sure it was him. At that thought he turned his face towards me while showing his trademark hair ...it was indeed him, continuing to run while naked.  ...I wonder if that is a sign of things to come? Not sure why it was a younger version of him though 🤔

... umm, slightly off topic? 😬
Title: Re: The Cure nominated to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame
Post by: Ulrich on December 17, 2018, 16:05:32
Quote from: word_on_a_wing on December 17, 2018, 12:33:49
I've had a few dreams of Trump recently
... it was indeed him, continuing to run while naked.  ...I wonder if that is a sign of things to come?

Well, if anything, then maybe it's a sign that you'll be going insane before 2020?  :winking_tongue  :lol:
Title: Re: The Cure nominated to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame
Post by: tanyasmith on December 17, 2018, 20:10:30
Yes, definitely the thought of Trump being out of office by the end of 2020 (and hopefully, hopefully before!!!) makes 2020 look good, but really 2020 seems to be a year when things are finally going forward. 2020 is the future and the beginnings of a better world, better societies. Also Jupiter and Saturn will be going into Aquarius in 2020, which means that humanitarianism, equality, and universal uniting will be themes. There should be a swing toward community, environment, innovation (hopefully eco innovation).

Word on a Wing: I feel you about The Cure not touring as many places in Australia as in Europe and U.S. I met several people from Australia on the 2016 tour. (There's a topic somewhere about how people are able to afford traveling to Cure shows). I love how people come from all over the globe to attend Cure shows. Such a diverse community, all united by love of The Cure.
Title: Re: The Cure nominated to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame
Post by: Ulrich on December 18, 2018, 10:30:24
Quote from: tanyasmith on December 17, 2018, 20:10:30
Yes, definitely the thought of Trump being out of office by the end of 2020 (and hopefully, hopefully before!!!) makes 2020 look good, but really 2020 seems to be a year when things are finally going forward. ...
There should be a swing toward community, environment, innovation (hopefully eco innovation).

Let's hope so!  :smth023
Title: Re: The Cure nominated to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame
Post by: word_on_a_wing on December 18, 2018, 13:06:37
Quote from: Ulrich on December 17, 2018, 16:05:32
Quote from: word_on_a_wing on December 17, 2018, 12:33:49
Well, if anything, then maybe it's a sign that you'll be going insane before 2020?  :winking_tongue  :lol:

Too late ! 🤪
... I could easily debate at length about such a topic, such as the fine line between insanity and enlightenment (or perhaps there's no line at all?) or the idea that people having mystical experiences are swimming in the same stuff as people with psychosis.
Interesting stuff!!
😝
Title: Re: The Cure nominated to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame
Post by: word_on_a_wing on December 18, 2018, 13:22:46
Quote from: tanyasmith on December 17, 2018, 20:10:30

Word on a Wing: I feel you about The Cure not touring as many places in Australia as in Europe and U.S. I met several people from Australia on the 2016 tour. (There's a topic somewhere about how people are able to afford traveling to Cure shows). I love how people come from all over the globe to attend Cure shows. Such a diverse community, all united by love of The Cure.

Yeah I agree how amazing the fans are :)  ...I recall at the Sydney Reflections shows meeting people who had travelled from far and wide.

As things are working out, it looks possible I could be going to France for 2 weeks between late July-early Aug.  ...am thinking this could be a great opportunity for a Cure-related detour!!
While my plans are still a bit up in the air, I'm thinking of perhaps jumping over to Norway to see The Cure on August 7 😬😬😬😍😍😍
I shouldn't jinx it by saying such things aloud !
Title: Re: The Cure nominated to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame
Post by: tanyasmith on December 18, 2018, 17:22:46
Quote from: word_on_a_wing on December 18, 2018, 13:22:46


I shouldn't jinx it by saying such things aloud !

Here's a good wish that your plans work out.  :heart-eyes