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Title: 2018.06.24 London, Royal Festival Hall 'Meltdown Festival'
Post by: dsanchez on April 10, 2018, 14:38:11
Setlist

Part I: Review from first to last album

Three Imaginary Boys [From TIB]
At Night [From 17 Seconds]
Other Voices [From Faith]
A Strange Day [From Pornography]
Bananafishbones [From The Top]
A Night Like This [From THOTD]
Like Cockatoos [From KMKMKM]
Pictures Of You [From Disintegration]
High [From Wish]
Jupiter Crash [From WMS]
39 [From Bloodflowers]
Us Or Them [From The Cure]
It's Over [From 4:13 Dream]
It Can Never Be The Same [Unreleased]

Part II: Review from last to first album

Step Into The Light [Unreleased]
Hungry Ghost [From 4:13 Dream]
alt. end [From The Cure]
The Last Day Of Summer [From Bloodflowers]
Want [From WMS]
From The Edge of The Deep Green Sea [From Wish]
Disintegration [From Disintegration]
If Only Tonight We Could Sleep [From KMKMKM]
Sinking [From THOTD]
Shake Dog Shake [From The Top]
One Hundred Years [From Pornography]
Primary [From Faith]
A Forest [From 17 Seconds]
Boys Don't Cry [From TIB]

Info

Not exactly a The Cure show, but... ;)

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CURÆTION-25
Part of Robert Smith’s Meltdown
Curator Robert Smith closes the 25th Meltdown festival with an exclusive two-hour show at Royal Festival Hall.

He is joined onstage by four of his curious friends – and other, imaginary accompanists – to perform special interpretations based on a very particular selection of songs he has sung throughout the years.

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Robert Smith curates the UK’s longest-running artist-curated music festival in its 25th year. Tickets for the next wave of shows go on sale to Southbank Centre Members on Friday 13 April and on sale to the general public on Monday 16 April.

Smith is the lead singer and principal songwriter of The Cure, and its only constant member since the group formed in 1978.

One of popular music’s defining bands, The Cure took the ‘alternative rock’ genre mainstream around the world and garnered numerous awards including a Brit Award for Best British Band, an MTV Icon Award, a Q Inspiration Award and NME’s Godlike Genius Award. Smith has also been presented with an Ivor Novello Award for International Achievement.

Ticket's on sale this Friday!
http://www.southbankcentre.co.uk/whats-on/124436-curaetion-25-2018
Title: Re: 2018.06.24 London, Royal Festival Hall
Post by: dsanchez on April 10, 2018, 14:57:26
Apparently tickets go on sale for South Bank Center members (membership costs 60 GBP) this Friday. I will definitely try to get tickets for this gig. This seems way more interesting than the 40th Anniversary show!
Title: Re: 2018.06.24 London, Royal Festival Hall
Post by: dsanchez on April 10, 2018, 19:11:01
just realised this venue has capacity for only 2,500 people... which means tickets will sell out in under a minute :P
Title: Re: 2018.06.24 London, Royal Festival Hall
Post by: dsanchez on April 10, 2018, 19:24:54
People with membership will be allowed to buy only TWO tickets this Friday

Title: Re: 2018.06.24 London, Royal Festival Hall
Post by: PearlThompsonsBloodflowers on April 10, 2018, 19:54:25
But who will Robert be preforming with??
Title: Re: 2018.06.24 London, Royal Festival Hall
Post by: dsanchez on April 10, 2018, 19:58:50
But who will Robert be preforming with??

"by four of his curious friends – and other, imaginary accompanists"

Let the speculation begin! :)
Title: Re: 2018.06.24 London, Royal Festival Hall
Post by: Borl Poris on April 10, 2018, 23:41:22
But who will Robert be preforming with??

God...I hope Trent Reznor, Siouxsie, Severen And Budgie
Title: Re: 2018.06.24 London, Royal Festival Hall
Post by: PearlThompsonsBloodflowers on April 11, 2018, 06:03:52
But who will Robert be preforming with??

God...I hope Trent Reznor, Siouxsie, Severen And Budgie


NICE CHOICES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: 2018.06.24 London, Royal Festival Hall
Post by: dsanchez on April 11, 2018, 09:05:48
From thecure.com

http://thecure.com/news/3343/more_acts_revealed_for_robert_smiths_meltdown_festival

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For ticket details head to southbankcentre.co.uk

FULL LIST OF ANNOUNCED ACTS BELOW:

Friday 15 June
PSYCHEDELIC FURS + The Church - 7:30pm, Southbank Centre's Royal Festival Hall
65DAYSOFSTATIC + Tropic of Cancer - 7:30pm, Southbank Centre's Queen Elizabeth Hall
JOYCUT + Indian Queens - 7:30pm Southbank Centre's Purcell Room
CONCRETE LATES: KIASMOS (DJ SET) - 11pm-2am, Southbank Centre's Queen Elizabeth Hall foyer

Saturday 16 June
PLACEBO + Kælan Mikla - 7:30pm, Southbank Centre's Royal Festival Hall
THE NOTWIST + Drahla - 7:30pm, Southbank Centre's Queen Elizabeth Hall
JAMBINAL + Tropic of Cancer - 7:30pm, Southbank Centre's Purcell Room
CONCRETES LATES: VESSELS (Live & DJ Set) - 11pm-2am, Southbank Centre's Queen Elizabeth Hall foyer

Sunday 17 June
THE LIBERTINES + Yonaka - 7:30pm, Southbank Centre's Royal Festival Hall
ALCEST + Emma Ruth Rundle - 7:30pm, Southbank Centre's Queen Elizabeth Hall
LOOP + Planning For Burial - 7:30pm, Southbank Centre's Purcell Room

Monday 18 June
DEATH CAB FOR CUTIE + Fear of Men 7:30pm, Southbank Centre's Royal Festival Hall
GOD IS AN ASTRONAUT + Jambinai - 7:30pm, Southbank Centre's Queen Elizabeth Hall
EMMA RUTH RUNDLE + Planning For Burial - 7:30pm, Southbank Centre's Purcell Room

Tuesday 19 June
MANIC STREET PREACHERS + The Anchoress - 7:30pm, Southbank Centre's Royal Festival Hall
FRIGHTENED RABBIT + Pumarosa - 7:30pm, Southbank Centre's Queen Elizabeth Hall
VEX RED + Douglas Dare - 7:30pm, Southbank Centre's Purcell Room

Wednesday 20 June
DEFTONES + pg.lost - 7:30pm, Southbank Centre's Royal Festival Hall
LOW + Jo Quail - 7:30pm, Southbank Centre's Queen Elizabeth Hall
MOON DUO + Hilary Woods - 7:30pm, Southbank Centre's Purcell Room
LIMINAL - 11pm-2am, Southbank Centre's Queen Elizabeth Hall foyer

Thursday 21 June
MOGWAI + Kathryn Joseph - 7:30pm, Southbank Centre's Royal Festival Hall
KRISTIN HERSH + Matt Holubowski - 7:30pm, Southbank Centre's Queen Elizabeth Hall
PG.LOST + Thought Forms - 7:30pm, Southbank Centre's Purcell Room
LIMINAL - 11pm-2am, Southbank Centre's Queen Elizabeth Hall foyer

Friday 22 June
NINE INCH NAILS + Black Moth Super Rainbow - 7:30pm, Southbank Centre's Royal Festival Hall
MONO + Jo Quail - 7:30pm, Southbank Centre's Queen Elizabeth Hall
THE JOY FORMIDABLE + Kidsmoke - 7:30pm, Southbank Centre's Purcell Room
LIMINAL - 11pm-2am, Southbank Centre's Queen Elizabeth Hall foyer

Saturday 23 June
MY BLOODY VALENTINE + The Soft Moon - 7:30pm, Southbank Centre's Royal Festival Hall
SUZANNE VEGA + James Walsh - 7:30pm, Southbank Centre's Queen Elizabeth Hall
AND ALSO THE TREES + A Dead Forest Index - 7:30pm, Southbank Centre's Purcell Room
CONCRETE LATES: EAT STATIC (DJ Set) - 11pm-2am, Southbank Centre's Queen Elizabeth Hall foyer

Sunday 24 June
CURÆTION-25 + The Twilight Sad - 7:30pm, Southbank Centre's Royal Festival Hall
MAYBESHEWILL + I Like Trains - 7:30pm, Southbank Centre's Queen Elizabeth Hall
THE SOFT MOON + The KVB - 7:30pm, Southbank Centre's Purcell Room
Title: Re: 2018.06.24 London, Royal Festival Hall
Post by: Ulrich on April 11, 2018, 10:01:26
But who will Robert be preforming with??

God...I hope Trent Reznor, Siouxsie, Severen And Budgie

Don't get your hopes up too high!
It's pretty logical that it might be musicians who'll be there for "Meltdown" anyway... (thus, Trent is an option, of course)!
Good thing about the internet is: we'll be able to read the reports during or shortly after the show! (Back in the 90's I had to wait for weeks/months to read about things in music papers, if at all...)
Title: Re: 2018.06.24 London, Royal Festival Hall
Post by: madspark on April 11, 2018, 15:48:31

Maybe I'm reading too much into this but if Robert was just  going to perform with other artists (a la Bowie's 50th birthday concert) why would he specifically say "curious" friends?

"Four curious friends?" Matthieu Hartley, Perry Bamonte, Boris Williams & Pearl Thompson?

"and other imaginary accompanists?" The first thing that came to mind was Lol and Michael Dempsey - at least for one song to celebrate the original line up.   

Maybe a Cult Hero reunion?
 
Title: Re: 2018.06.24 London, Royal Festival Hall
Post by: MeltingMan on April 11, 2018, 16:44:43
"Four curious friends?" Matthieu Hartley, Perry Bamonte, Boris Williams & Pearl Thompson?

That means actually Simon, Jason, Roger and Reeves - my limited view after 24 hours.

Quote from: madspark
and other imaginary accompanists?

Lol is very likely.
Title: Re: 2018.06.24 London, Royal Festival Hall
Post by: cheyler on April 11, 2018, 18:16:28
Not sure about Perry, although I'd love to see him up there and he sure as heck deserves it.  I wouldn't even give odds on Lol, I think he'll be there, no question about it.  A little less certain about Pearl, but I think he's very likely to be there too.  Andy Anderson as well.  Lol and Andy have been real non-committal about it when asked, but that's only natural.  I can't think of anyone who would be 'out of the question, not gonna be there'.
Title: Re: 2018.06.24 London, Royal Festival Hall
Post by: Ulrich on April 12, 2018, 09:11:51
"Four curious friends?" Matthieu Hartley, Perry Bamonte, Boris Williams & Pearl Thompson?

That means actually Simon, Jason, Roger and Reeves - my limited view after 24 hours.

I don't think so. He said in the interview that he "trapped" himself somehow, because Hyde Park was announced as "the only Cure show", so when "Meltdown" came along, it became clear that he'll have to do "something different" than a "normal" Cure show.
We'll have to wait and see. I myself do guess it will be "friends" of Robert from other bands, especially those who play at Meltdown. (E.g. someone from Mogwai...)
Title: Re: 2018.06.24 London, Royal Festival Hall
Post by: word_on_a_wing on April 12, 2018, 10:14:34
I feel he is saying that the expected 4 will join him on stage (ie Simon, Jason, Roger, Reeves) but it will be a very different show than a typical Cure show, with several guests joining them, unusual arrangements of songs, and some song of RS playing solo.  Because it will be so different this means Hyde Park can still validly be referred to as the only UK concert by The Cure this year. 
...I'm sure it will be awesome whatever form it ends up being!
Title: Re: 2018.06.24 London, Royal Festival Hall
Post by: cheyler on April 13, 2018, 02:13:42
"Four curious friends?" Matthieu Hartley, Perry Bamonte, Boris Williams & Pearl Thompson?

That means actually Simon, Jason, Roger and Reeves - my limited view after 24 hours.

I don't think so. He said in the interview that he "trapped" himself somehow, because Hyde Park was announced as "the only Cure show", so when "Meltdown" came along, it became clear that he'll have to do "something different" than a "normal" Cure show.
We'll have to wait and see. I myself do guess it will be "friends" of Robert from other bands, especially those who play at Meltdown. (E.g. someone from Mogwai...)

You may very well be right.  I guess it's just 'wait and see' at this point. 
Title: Re: 2018.06.24 London, Royal Festival Hall
Post by: MeltingMan on April 13, 2018, 09:46:19
I'm not going to buy a ticket. Not today at least. Maybe on Monday. I don't know.
I'm convinced that the major event will take place in July - that's the point.
Title: Re: 2018.06.24 London, Royal Festival Hall
Post by: dsanchez on April 13, 2018, 13:42:31
Today's pre-sale for South Bank Centre members is, as expected, sold out. General sales for an unknown % of tickets is this Monday.

Title: Re: 2018.06.24 London, Royal Festival Hall
Post by: dsanchez on April 13, 2018, 14:02:57
General sale commences on Monday 10:00 AM London time. I wonder how many of the 2,500 tickets will be put for sale.

Title: Re: 2018.06.24 London, Royal Festival Hall
Post by: cheyler on April 14, 2018, 02:25:43
But who will Robert be preforming with??

"by four of his curious friends – and other, imaginary accompanists"

Let the speculation begin! :)

Taking this verbatim, I'd say the current line-up plus Lol and Michael (in whatever capacities).
Title: Re: 2018.06.24 London, Royal Festival Hall
Post by: piggymirror on April 14, 2018, 04:25:48
But who will Robert be preforming with??

God...I hope Trent Reznor,

Could be.

Siouxsie, Severen And Budgie

Banshees? That would be THREE curious friends.
It would be four if you added Martin McCarrick, who btw, was in The Glove before joining the Banshees.
But I don't know wether McCarrick and Severin get on well these days or not.

And as far as I'm aware, there is no way Sioux and Robert will ever play together again.
And Severin and Budgie, as far as I'm aware, won't be playing together again, either.
The split between Glove and Creatures was very real for quite a long time.
Is it still so? Not sure, as Sioux and Severin seem to have signed peace, but only after Severin's illness.

And Sioux's voice confronted with Robert's... that hurts, Sioux's great, but she lost a lot of vocal range.
While Robert keeps most of his vocal range (which is not just a little, just listen to New Day!!).
I don't think Sioux would like that.

Robert and Severin, on the other hand... I'd like to listen to Punish Me With Kisses live ONCE.
And Spellbound once again, I'd love that. But... sung by whom? Robert definitely can't play AND sing that, it is too difficult. Even McGeoch struggled with it on a bad day.
Besides, Severin playing bass guitar live? After his surgery? Not sure that's a possibility. I wish he could though, he's great.
If he couldn't, Severin could shift to keys, Robert to bass, and... Pearl on guitar? Pearl was in the Blue Sunshine sessions anyway, and it can't be McGeoch because he's no longer among us. Oh, why not asking Andy Anderson? Andy is the Glove drummer.

If it weren't clear enough, I miss The Glove and The Banshees very much.
Title: Re: 2018.06.24 London, Royal Festival Hall
Post by: MeltingMan on April 14, 2018, 09:58:00
Quote from: piggymirror
Oh, why not asking Andy Anderson?

My gut feeling says he has been invited by Robert too. That would be awesome!
Title: Re: 2018.06.24 London, Royal Festival Hall
Post by: MeltingMan on April 14, 2018, 10:12:21
I wonder how many of the 2,500 tickets will be put for sale.

...and I wonder if Susanna got one yesterday. I would be surprised if not.  :lol:
Title: Re: 2018.06.24 London, Royal Festival Hall
Post by: A Strange Girl on April 15, 2018, 21:47:00

And Sioux's voice confronted with Robert's... that hurts, Sioux's great, but she lost a lot of vocal range.
While Robert keeps most of his vocal range (which is not just a little, just listen to New Day!!).
Don't think Sioux would like that.

Gotta agree on this. I love Siouxsie, but she jus't can't hit high notes anymore, her voice has gotten worse over time. She can't hold a candle to Robert  :roll:
Title: Re: 2018.06.24 London, Royal Festival Hall
Post by: dsanchez on April 16, 2018, 10:41:56
Tickets go on sale in 19 minutes...go here right now! http://www.southbankcentre.co.uk/whats-on/124436-curaetion-25-2018
Title: Re: 2018.06.24 London, Royal Festival Hall
Post by: dsanchez on April 16, 2018, 10:56:51
Sale commences in four minutes!
Title: Re: 2018.06.24 London, Royal Festival Hall
Post by: dsanchez on April 16, 2018, 11:32:58
SOLD OUT! Didn't manage to get tickets...
Title: Re: 2018.06.24 London, Royal Festival Hall
Post by: Ulrich on April 16, 2018, 12:08:35
SOLD OUT! Didn't manage to get tickets...

Sorry to hear that.  :(
No big surprise though.
Title: Re: 2018.06.24 London, Royal Festival Hall
Post by: dsanchez on April 16, 2018, 13:20:19
It seems that calling to the box office was easier to get the tickets than on the Internet. If I knew before...


Title: Re: 2018.06.24 London, Royal Festival Hall
Post by: dsanchez on April 16, 2018, 13:29:08
SOLD OUT! Didn't manage to get tickets...
Sorry to hear that.  :(
No big surprise though.

Is the first time I don't manage to get a ticket for a Cure gig... :roll:
Title: Re: 2018.06.24 London, Royal Festival Hall
Post by: word_on_a_wing on April 16, 2018, 14:31:52
Gosh sorry to hear that, hopefully one appears somehow 🙏
Title: Re: 2018.06.24 London, Royal Festival Hall
Post by: dsanchez on April 16, 2018, 14:53:38
Gosh sorry to hear that, hopefully one appears somehow 🙏

I think is easier for Peru to win the next world cup than me getting a ticket for this lol
Title: Re: 2018.06.24 London, Royal Festival Hall
Post by: PearlThompsonsBloodflowers on April 16, 2018, 18:31:11
SOLD OUT! Didn't manage to get tickets...
Sorry to hear that.  :(
No big surprise though.

Is the first time I don't manage to get a ticket for a Cure gig... :roll:


Well at least you have seen The Cure before. Some fans like me are just hoping for a world 2019 tour.
Title: Re: 2018.06.24 London, Royal Festival Hall
Post by: dsanchez on April 16, 2018, 20:40:21
Well at least you have seen The Cure before. Some fans like me are just hoping for a world 2019 tour.

When I was your age I did not see The Cure... my first time was one I was 25. So I actually waited many years before my first Cure gig...
Title: Re: 2018.06.24 London, Royal Festival Hall
Post by: Ulrich on April 17, 2018, 10:04:00
When I was your age I did not see The Cure... my first time was one I was 25. So I actually waited many years before my first Cure gig...

So did I! I finally got to see them at the age of 23 (after missing some tours before).
Title: Re: 2018.06.24 London, Royal Festival Hall
Post by: chemicaloverload on April 17, 2018, 10:23:25
Gosh sorry to hear that, hopefully one appears somehow 🙏

I think is easier for Peru to win the next world cup than me getting a ticket for this lol

I’d like to see Chile take it :)

Kiddo will be almost 8 at Hyde park. Start them young  :smth023
Title: Re: 2018.06.24 London, Royal Festival Hall
Post by: MeltingMan on April 17, 2018, 11:02:32
SOLD OUT! Didn't manage to get tickets...

Robert's birthday is near, so I think a final batch of tickets will be available soon.
Title: Re: 2018.06.24 London, Royal Festival Hall
Post by: cheyler on April 17, 2018, 12:28:34
It was her surname that did it...guaranteed. 
Title: Re: 2018.06.24 London, Royal Festival Hall
Post by: g_erman on June 10, 2018, 16:13:52
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Title: Re: 2018.06.24 London, Royal Festival Hall
Post by: cheyler on June 10, 2018, 18:39:58
This is the one, that's for sure.  Hyde Park the only European show this year?  The only OUTDOOR European show this year maybe...  Imagine how...distressed...some of these folks who are travelling long distances.  The show they THOUGHT they were going to see had already been played...two weeks before they even made it to England.  Gigs and tours rarely go smoothly for these guys, as evidenced by the 2016 tour and even these two shows (originally announced as ONE show).  Two weeks away, the rehearsals are probably over, maybe a warm-up a day or two before the gig, then 'they're off!'.  Lol will be there, that's not hard to figure out.  I'd put some money on Pearl being there too.  I have a strange feeling Perry will be there too, he's really fallen off the radar over the last couple of months.  I'm a little less certain about Andy, but I think there's a possibility.  Who else, Boris?  Even odds on him.  Michael and Mathieu?  Not a clue.  Can't wait to find out!
Title: Re: 2018.06.24 London, Royal Festival Hall
Post by: g_erman on June 10, 2018, 18:56:57
Have you got a ticket, Cheyler? If Pearl's gonna be there, that's enough for me: I don't want to miss it. I tried to purchase a ticket when the sales began but was impossible. At that time the gig was far away ahead, so I didn't care much. Now I'm scared of missing it. I agree Lol will be there. It would be nice to see Andy. And Michael. And Boris. But Pearl's the jewel for me. Pffff... I'm stressed out as 30 years ago...
Title: Re: 2018.06.24 London, Royal Festival Hall
Post by: cheyler on June 10, 2018, 21:17:09
I agree with you completely.  I don't have a ticket though.  I was trying to put together a trip to the Hyde Park gig, but while I was struggling with the travel money, the tickets sold out.  By the time I'd heard of the second, earlier gig the tickets were gone already for that show as well.  Pearl is the big draw for me, best guitarist they EVER had (or are ever likely to have).  Lol and Pearl are friends so it's not much of a stretch to see them both there.  Lol won't say, and rightly so.  I wouldn't want to under-cut the official announcement.  Same with Andy.  Even if I could get an expedited passport, all the other logistics are left undone.  I have to resign myself to the fact that I'm not gonna make it.  Something just occurred to me.  If this multiple-incarnation format works well, maybe if everyone's schedules are clear they could take it on the road!?!?  It'd be a helluva way to go out in style.

Title: Re: 2018.06.24 London, Royal Festival Hall
Post by: g_erman on June 11, 2018, 03:59:49
I know that there's a rule of not saying a word until the gig takes place. So Pearl, Lol, Andy or any other who may be joining the band won't say a word about it. There's no much re-sale tickets around, just a few on viagogo (which is the most abusive site of all abusers that re-sells). This show should be truly special, and not a rehearsal for Hyde Park. Robert can do what he wants. He could even make the three or four most relevant line-ups play that night. If it's just a gig of the current line-up (which I do not like at all) with a brief appearance of some old bandmates, that'd be truly disappointing. I don't think Pearl wants to go on the road with The Cure again.
Title: Re: 2018.06.24 London, Royal Festival Hall
Post by: cheyler on June 11, 2018, 08:03:36
I agree with most of what you said, the only point of disagreement being the latest line-up.  When Reeves first joined in 2012, and continuing through 2013 and 2014, I thought his guitar tone / sound was totally out-of-place within The Cure.  However the decision was reached, either by fans' posts or e-mails, or maybe the band realized that Reeves just sounded a little out-of-place, however it happened, the rehearsals for the 2016 world tour finally got Reeves fully integrated into The Cure.  It was just one big happy surprise to me, and now I truly believe they're on the right road, going in the right direction.  A little less than two weeks now, can't wait to find out who's gonna be there and in what combinations and which songs they play.  I've never looked forward to a show more, especially a show I can't make, than I am looking forward to this one!
Title: Re: 2018.06.24 London, Royal Festival Hall
Post by: g_erman on June 11, 2018, 16:52:50
I haven't seen the band lately so I cannot say. Gabrels wasn't fitting in the band at the beginning. Dunno later. Pearl is unique in al senses. I wish they could play with five diff. line-ups at the festival hall: Demps/Lol/Rob, Simon/Lol/Rob, Andy/Phil/Pearl/Lol/Rob, Boris/Pearl/Lol/Simon/Rob and Jason/Pearl/Simon/Rob. But that's only in my dream.
Title: Re: 2018.06.24 London, Royal Festival Hall
Post by: MeltingMan on June 12, 2018, 09:57:41
Now I'm scared of missing it.

The same feeling grows inside of me because it's almost clear that none of the ex-members
will appear at BST 2018 (and I said the latter is going to be the major event!?!). I really wonder
if anyone from Curefans has got a ticket for MeltDown. No reply to date...
Title: Re: 2018.06.24 London, Royal Festival Hall
Post by: dsanchez on June 12, 2018, 10:33:08
it's almost clear that none of the ex-members will appear at BST 2018

what makes you think that? Hope is the last thing to lose... ;)
Title: Re: 2018.06.24 London, Royal Festival Hall
Post by: Ulrich on June 12, 2018, 12:24:33
Well I have no idea what's planned and who'll be there or not...
My guess is that CURÆTION-25 will be a special "one-off" with some "friends" (not necessarily ever members of The Cure), while Hyde Park will be more like a "normal" Cure show (each "only" 2 hours though).

For all those who are lucky enough to be able to go (to either show) I hope they will just enjoy the moment, no matter who is there or not.  :cool
For all others: we can look forward to lots of moaning on the net, as soon as the show is over.  :D
Title: Re: 2018.06.24 London, Royal Festival Hall
Post by: MeltingMan on June 12, 2018, 14:05:10
what makes you think that? Hope is the last thing to lose... ;)

The fact that so many other artists and bands already accepted their invitation for MeltDown,
but it's not clear if and how many ex-members accepted theirs. It's still nebulous.

Quote from: Ulrich
we can look forward to lots of moaning on the net, as soon as the show is over.

 :)  :smth023
Title: Re: 2018.06.24 London, Royal Festival Hall
Post by: cheyler on June 12, 2018, 20:05:32
I'd love to see those line-ups too, I'll bet we do get to see at least two of your suggestions!  I hope Perry is there too, he spent 20 years of his life in The Cure, on the crew, as a tech and as a full member of the band.
Title: Re: 2018.06.24 London, Royal Festival Hall
Post by: g_erman on June 13, 2018, 04:19:05
Robert was saying that RFH will be doom and gloom. Not a word about line-up/s. But that line on the third paragraph of the Guardian interview talked about "ex-band members" performing. And I guess (and hope) the writer had first hand and good info to say that.
Title: Re: 2018.06.24 London, Royal Festival Hall
Post by: piggymirror on June 15, 2018, 07:51:37
Well I have no idea what's planned and who'll be there or not...
My guess is that CURÆTION-25 will be a special "one-off" with some "friends" (not necessarily ever members of The Cure), while Hyde Park will be more like a "normal" Cure show (each "only" 2 hours though).

Glove?

Title: Re: 2018.06.24 London, Royal Festival Hall
Post by: Ulrich on June 15, 2018, 09:45:34
Glove?

No, I thought in terms of "members of bands who play at Meltdown".
As g_erman pointed out, The Guardian article speaks of:
Quote
Smith will close the event under the name Cureation 25 – which promises a lineup of previous bandmates and more
We'll have to wait and see...
Title: Re: 2018.06.24 London, Royal Festival Hall
Post by: dsanchez on June 17, 2018, 22:24:19
Glove?
No, I thought in terms of "members of bands who play at Meltdown".
As g_erman pointed out, The Guardian article speaks of:
Quote
Smith will close the event under the name Cureation 25 – which promises a lineup of previous bandmates and more
We'll have to wait and see...

It would be very disappointing to see those members only at Meltdown, and not Hyde Park :(
Title: Re: 2018.06.24 London, Royal Festival Hall
Post by: cheyler on June 18, 2018, 09:02:24
Almost anything is possible, I suppose.  Six days left until we find out!
Title: Re: 2018.06.24 London, Royal Festival Hall
Post by: Ulrich on June 18, 2018, 10:35:39
It would be very disappointing to see those members only at Meltdown, and not Hyde Park

As I posted back in December 2017 already:
"I get the feeling that expectations will be high for some, which will possibly only lead to disappointments".
Title: Re: 2018.06.24 London, Royal Festival Hall
Post by: piggymirror on June 22, 2018, 15:00:42
It would be very disappointing to see those members only at Meltdown, and not Hyde Park

As I posted back in December 2017 already:
"I get the feeling that expectations will be high for some, which will possibly only lead to disappointments".

Or are they? Martin McCarrick played with Kristin Hersh. And Martin McCarrick's pure Glove. Uh-oh.

Do track Severin, Pearl, Andy, Jeannette Landray, Gini Ball, Anne Stephenson AT ONCE.
Title: Re: 2018.06.24 London, Royal Festival Hall
Post by: Ulrich on June 22, 2018, 15:27:03
I do not "rule out" The Glove members. It's just that with above comment I'd meant "friends" from his favourite bands who do play at Meltdown (and thus possibly are still in town).  :cool

Martin McCarrick played with Kristin Hersh.

The question would be: was McCarrick playing with Kristin Hersh at her Meltdown show last night?

Edit: yes, he did!
http://drownedinsound.com/in_depth/4151875-kristin-hersh-meltdown
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... a no-frills performance; just her voice, her guitar, and later, the rich addition of Martin McCarrick’s cello. But from the first note to the last, no one is left wanting.
:smth023
Title: Re: 2018.06.24 London, Royal Festival Hall
Post by: piggymirror on June 22, 2018, 17:26:17
It would be very disappointing to see those members only at Meltdown, and not Hyde Park

As I posted back in December 2017 already:
"I get the feeling that expectations will be high for some, which will possibly only lead to disappointments".

Or are they? Martin McCarrick played with Kristin Hersh. And Martin McCarrick's pure Glove. Uh-oh.

Do track Severin, Pearl, Andy, Jeannette Landray, Gini Ball, Anne Stephenson AT ONCE.

ATTENTION: Martin McCarrick (&wife?) could ALSO be playing(/has already played?) with Kodama at Meltdown.

Title: Re: 2018.06.24 London, Royal Festival Hall
Post by: cheyler on June 23, 2018, 02:39:42
I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say Lol, Pearl and Perry will be there in one capacity or another.
Title: Re: 2018.06.24 London, Royal Festival Hall
Post by: dsanchez on June 24, 2018, 19:15:02
So far Simon, Reeves, Roger and Jason in the CURAETION25 the soundcheck. No other special guests that we know of, so far.
Title: Re: 2018.06.24 London, Royal Festival Hall
Post by: cheyler on June 24, 2018, 21:01:17
I sure hope this gets real interesting real quick...
Title: Re: 2018.06.24 London, Royal Festival Hall
Post by: dsanchez on June 24, 2018, 21:03:58
The show starts in exactly 27 minutes, someone is streaming here: https://www.pscp.tv/SnuffybearScope/1kvJpaYNPNgxE

https://www.pscp.tv/SnuffybearScope/1kvJpaYNkNmxE
Title: Re: 2018.06.24 London, Royal Festival Hall
Post by: dsanchez on June 24, 2018, 22:07:57
The boys did a review from the first to last and then backwards. To those who were there...you are so lucky!

Part I: Review from first to last album

Three Imaginary Boys [From TIB]
At Night [From 17 Seconds]
Other Voices [From Faith]
A Strange Day [From Pornography]
Bananafishbones [From The Top]
A Night Like This [From THOTD]
Like Cockatoos [From KMKMKM]
Pictures Of You [From Disintegration]
High [From Wish]
Jupiter Crash [From WMS]
39 [From Bloodflowers]
Us Or Them [From The Cure]
It's Over [From 4:13 Dream]
It Can Never Be The Same [Unreleased]

Part II: Review from last to first album

Step Into The Light [Unreleased]
Hungry Ghost [From 4:13 Dream]
alt. end [From The Cure]
The Last Day Of Summer [From Bloodflowers]
Want [From WMS]
From The Edge of The Deep Green Sea [From Wish]
Disintegration [From Disintegration]
If Only Tonight We Could Sleep [From KMKMKM]
Sinking [From THOTD]
Shake Dog Shake [From The Top]
One Hundred Years [From Pornography]
Primary [From Faith]
A Forest [From 17 Seconds]
Boys Don't Cry [From TIB]
Title: Re: 2018.06.24 London, Royal Festival Hall
Post by: helloimageifonly on June 25, 2018, 01:08:33
I wasn't able to see the streaming :1f631: :1f631: :1f631: can anyone give their first impression of the show? Setlist looks amazing!
Title: Re: 2018.06.24 London, Royal Festival Hall
Post by: cheyler on June 25, 2018, 03:41:32
The pre-gig hype is usually wrong, doesn't hurt to hope for the best.  I can't say I'd have been disappointed; any Cure gig these days is usually great.  Idle gossip can get blown TOTALLY out of proportion, to the point that some fans start having expectations long before the show gets into town...or out-of-town as the case may be.  They could have done any or all of these songs (and did...) on the 2016 tour.  Was this viewed as just a warm-up gig for Hyde Park?  The 'doom-and-gloom' RS predicted was pretty far off the mark too.  At least the lucky people who got tickets for Hyde Park won't feel cheated.  After all, when the Park gig was announced it said "Only European Date of 2018"...which also turned out not to be true.  Actually, I CAN say there is a fair bit of disappointment after all...
Title: Re: 2018.06.24 London, Royal Festival Hall
Post by: Ulrich on June 25, 2018, 09:01:22
The pre-gig hype is usually wrong...
Actually, I CAN say there is a fair bit of disappointment after all...

Were there any "friends" (guests) playing or "just" the current Cure line-up?  :1f636:
Title: Re: 2018.06.24 London, Royal Festival Hall
Post by: Ulrich on June 25, 2018, 09:04:39
I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say Lol, Pearl and Perry will be there in one capacity or another.

Yeah, well, if I'd mounted up such expectations I'd feel disappointed too.  :winking_tongue
Title: Re: 2018.06.24 London, Royal Festival Hall
Post by: dsanchez on June 25, 2018, 09:56:40
The pre-gig hype is usually wrong...
Actually, I CAN say there is a fair bit of disappointment after all...
Were there any "friends" (guests) playing or "just" the current Cure line-up?  :1f636:

It was a The Cure concert, i.e. Robert, Simon, Jason, Reeves and Roger.
Title: Re: 2018.06.24 London, Royal Festival Hall
Post by: Ulrich on June 25, 2018, 10:10:38
It was a The Cure concert, i.e. Robert, Simon, Jason, Reeves and Roger.

So it was basically a "warm-up" for Hyde Park and the only reason not to call it "The Cure" was that Hyde Park promoters wanted an "exclusive show".   :expressionless:
I do understand the disappointment about that, after all the "official" announcements were like:
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...four of his curious friends – and other, imaginary accompanists
:disappointed:
Title: Re: 2018.06.24 London, Royal Festival Hall
Post by: MeltingMan on June 25, 2018, 10:48:24
To be fair: I'm not disappointed. The absence of B-Sides and former band members
shows that Meltdown was indeed a minor event compared with BST 2018 - knock on wood.
Good job, Robert!

 :smth023

Title: Re: 2018.06.24 London, Royal Festival Hall
Post by: g_erman on June 25, 2018, 11:25:29
I assumed The Cure I was interested in was dead a long ago. The quartet of 4:13 Dream was something good, an "audacious" move, I was happy with that. But time told it was just a lapsus. Gig last night was a Cure covering The Cure gig. Current line-up is the nastiest ever. Reeves Gabrels doesn't fit in, definitely. Roger sounds are unbearable (please Lol, get back with your two-finger wonder, the Cure magic and spirit is in you no matter what). A trio with Simon and Jason would be the best solution if Robert doesn't want to call ex bandmates.

Besides that, it's kinda a lack of respect the "mystery" announcement. Ok, yes: 4 curious friends could be the other for members of the current line up. The "plus some imaginary accompanists" was crap. Just a line to make expectations high. Yes, there's still some people in the audience that dream with a good amount of fantasy and imagination. Those things The Cure has lost.

Anyway, I just do not blame or point out the band. I just feel they became a sad number. There's not a bit of soul in it. Just a mise en scène (not a very inspired nor inspiring one). Finally, it was the last one for me.
Title: Re: 2018.06.24 London, Royal Festival Hall
Post by: cheyler on June 25, 2018, 11:36:43
Now that I think about it, it all makes perfect sense.  They wanted 'exclusivity' so it was described as a special show, with special songs and 'imaginary accompanists'.  There were all SORTS of 'imaginary' accompanists on stage with them...I saw them, didn't you?  Or HEARD them anyway...  Sounds like a great way to give the event people what they wanted AND to mess with them at the same time.  Everything that was 'promised' was delivered, and in a way that left very little room for disappointment.

I thought maybe we'd see a 'guest' on one song, another 'guest' on another song, that kind of thing, but that would have meant lots of interruptions and a waste of valuable stage time.  It wasn't touted as some great 'reunion' gig, but I never expected that in the first place.  Never even bothered to HOPE for it.  Now it seems likely that the Hyde Park gig will be along the same lines as the Meltdown gig, but with all the 'hands-in-the-air' stuff thrown in.  I have no expectations whatsoever for the Hyde Park gig, but if something out-of-the-ordinary does occur, it'll be a nice surprise.
Title: Re: 2018.06.24 London, Royal Festival Hall
Post by: g_erman on June 25, 2018, 11:43:32
I don't care what Hyde Park will be like. I won't be there. The saddest thing is that last night I've heard the worst live versiones of From the Edge of the Deep Green Sea and Shake Dog Shake of my entire life. And I didn't need that. Nobody did.
Title: Re: 2018.06.24 London, Royal Festival Hall
Post by: Ulrich on June 25, 2018, 11:50:53
There were all SORTS of 'imaginary' accompanists on stage with them...I saw them, didn't you?  Or HEARD them anyway... 

Oh, yes I did!  :D

Now it seems likely that the Hyde Park gig will be along the same lines as the Meltdown gig, but with all the 'hands-in-the-air' stuff thrown in.

Yep, like "Friday...", "Inbetween days" and so on!
Title: Re: 2018.06.24 London, Royal Festival Hall
Post by: Ulrich on June 25, 2018, 11:56:16
Anyway, I just do not blame or point out the band.

:D
Oh yes, you do:

a Cure covering The Cure gig. Current line-up is the nastiest ever. Reeves Gabrels doesn't fit in...
Roger ...unbearable

But that's okay, we can live with that.
Can you elaborate a bit what exactly was so bad about FTEOTDGS or SDS? Wrong notes, wrong tempo?
Title: Re: 2018.06.24 London, Royal Festival Hall
Post by: dsanchez on June 25, 2018, 13:22:29
Some photos from yesterday...

Title: Re: 2018.06.24 London, Royal Festival Hall 'Meltdown Festival'
Post by: dsanchez on June 25, 2018, 13:41:42
Can you elaborate a bit what exactly was so bad about FTEOTDGS or SDS? Wrong notes, wrong tempo?

I can imagine he means Reeve's signature "rock" sound, e.g. below from 2m20s:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qo49XCO85Hg

Specially when you compare to THIS (from 3m10s)

Title: Re: 2018.06.24 London, Royal Festival Hall 'Meltdown Festival'
Post by: In Sequence on June 25, 2018, 13:55:52
I thought was all going super-great until High.... which I didn't expect to hear. Then wasn't so super-great until they worked their way backwards again and it picked up from from Disintegration to the end.... Clearly I'm just not a fan of the newer stuff.
Title: Re: 2018.06.24 London, Royal Festival Hall 'Meltdown Festival'
Post by: Ulrich on June 25, 2018, 16:36:16
Thanks for sharing your impression, InSequence!

@dsanchez: if he'd meant that, he could've said it. It would be bad if Reeves did not have his own style (especially for a guitar solo!), because then it would be more like a cover band...
Title: Re: 2018.06.24 London, Royal Festival Hall 'Meltdown Festival'
Post by: dsanchez on June 27, 2018, 11:26:20
Part I

Part II
Title: Re: 2018.06.24 London, Royal Festival Hall 'Meltdown Festival'
Post by: g_erman on June 28, 2018, 15:13:14
Anyway, I just do not blame or point out the band.

:D
Oh yes, you do:

a Cure covering The Cure gig. Current line-up is the nastiest ever. Reeves Gabrels doesn't fit in...
Roger ...unbearable

But that's okay, we can live with that.
Can you elaborate a bit what exactly was so bad about FTEOTDGS or SDS? Wrong notes, wrong tempo?

No, I really cannot say exactly what was so bad about those songs (and others). It's just a feeling. A perception. There's nothing stronger than that. Words are useless when the perception system works fine. But I can say that Roger keys are unbearable. He plays more than what's needed, his horrible sound is too loud and at the front of the mix. And Reeves does not fit in The Cure. Which does not mean he's a bad guitar player. He's a very good one. But The Cure's not Tin Machine. Adrian Belew or Robert Fripp (maybe my most fave guitar players along with Pearl) would not fit in The Cure. A trio Robert, Simon and Jason would be a much better line-up than this tired and tiring quintet. We don't need a fat and loud sound any longer. I'd love to hear a sensitive band, truly emotional. Not what they become. And when I say I do not blame the band, I mean that I know this is MY perception of things. Having seen the band playing live for more than three decades, I know when a live version it's not a very happy one. And there's no point in justify a feeling. FTEOTDGS was atrocious. And that song, under my point of view, was conceived to be played live. With Pearl, naturally. Pearl is truly missed. And she will always be. You cannot replace her as you cannot replace Simon. You need to change the formula.