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A survey on fan mentality
« on: February 16, 2018, 20:21:06 »

Hello,
in school, for the topic of musical sciences, I am doing a project on fan mentality. Via surveys, I want to find out if some of the clichés and myths about us Cure fans are actually true--or not--, if there are things we all share in common, what exactly we all love about The Cure and if there is such a thing as a typical fan.
We have all heard lots of clichés, and now I want to find out if they´re true!
I am planning to write an essay about the results, I think I´ll combine that with the results I will hopefully get from a survey on fan mentality of fans of my second favorite singer, Joe Strummer.
I have to warn you, though: I do have a lot of questions! Just answer whichever you´d like to respond to. The ones I deem the most important are those I typed in capitals. I´m so looking forward to your answers!

These would be the questions:

IN GENERAL…

→ HOW AND WHEN DID YOU GET TO KNOW THE CURE?
→ WHEN AND BECAUSE OF WHAT DID YOU TURN INTO A FAN?


YOU
(I’ll be writing about what we, as fans, have in common, so this part is on your person…)

[/b]→ WHAT OTHER HOBBIES DO YOU HAVE?
→ DO YOU DO SPORTS? DO YOU DANCE?
→ HOW WOULD YOU DESCRIBE YOURSELF?
→ HOW OLD ARE YOU?
-> WHAT KINDS OF CLOTHES DO YOU LIKE TO WEAR?
→ Do you believe in gender differences?
→ Are you “depressed”?
→ Do you do any music yourself?
→ Are you married?
→ Do you have or want kids?


US
(what do we think of our own fan attitude?)

→ HOW WOULD YOU DRESCRIBE OUR GENERAL FAN MENTALITY?
→ DO YOU AGREE WITH THE FOLLOWING STATEMENTS?
1. Robert says fans of the band are “generally very passionate” and “all beautiful and clever.”
2. Simon notes fans often “feel a bit alienated”.
3. Many people are convinced most Cure fans are not that good in sports.
4. Psychoanalyst Catherine Lavaillant stated in the MTV icon show in 2004 that the Cure “helps [fans] with their adolescent issues”.
5. We are all fairly obsessed with our very favorite band.

→ What else is there that you’re convinced we all share?


THE CURE MUSIC


→ WHAT´S THE BEST PART ABOUT THE CURE´s MUSIC?
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THE BAND PERSONA AND IMAGE

→ DO YOU ALSO CARE ABOUT ROBERT SMITH AS A PERSON?
→ WOULD YOU SAY ROBERT´S CHARACTER IS SIMILIAR TO YOUR OWN?
-> DO YOU CARE MOSTLY ABOUT THE MUSIC OR IS THE CURE IMAGE AS IMPORTANT TO YOU?
→ DO YOU IMITATE THE CURE LOOK YOURSELF?
→ If Robert Smith left the band, would you still remain a fan? (Just wondering...)
→ Has Robert Smith or another band member sometimes been like an invisible friend to you?
→ Do you have a favorite band member?


I´m excited to see whether I´ll manage to really do this survey--looking forward to your replies! Thanks so, so much in advance! Cheers!

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Re: A survey on fan mentality
« Reply #1 on: February 17, 2018, 10:51:51 »
Hi, I have some time on my hands today, so I'll give it a go...
(Just posting in here or where do you want us to send the answers?)

→ HOW AND WHEN DID YOU GET TO KNOW THE CURE?

1985. Heard the single "Inbetween days" on the radio.

→ WHEN AND BECAUSE OF WHAT DID YOU TURN INTO A FAN?

Between 1985 and 1987. Because of their music & lyrics. I found the albums at the time were "varied" musically, I liked that.

→ WHAT OTHER HOBBIES DO YOU HAVE?

Music/concerts, reading, walking/hiking, photography, history/museums, movies, art, surfing the net...

→ DO YOU DO SPORTS? DO YOU DANCE?

Hiking, sometimes swimming, a bit of gymnastics maybe.
I like to "move" a bit when I hear good music, if you can call it "dance" is another question...

→ HOW OLD ARE YOU? 48

-> WHAT KINDS OF CLOTHES DO YOU LIKE TO WEAR?

The kind that fits.  ;) Black, grey, blue, white, olive-green, brown, red etc.

→ Are you “depressed”?

Not more as the average human being, I guess.

→ Do you have or want kids?

Maybe, maybe not. We'll see.

→ DO YOU AGREE WITH THE FOLLOWING STATEMENTS?
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1. Robert says fans of the band are “generally very passionate” and “all beautiful and clever.”
2. Simon notes fans often “feel a bit alienated”.
3. Many people are convinced most Cure fans are not that good in sports.
4. Psychoanalyst Catherine Lavaillant stated in the MTV icon show in 2004 that the Cure “helps [fans] with their adolescent issues”.
5. We are all fairly obsessed with our very favorite band.

1. yes
2. maybe
3. no
4. hopefully
5. probably

→ What else is there that you’re convinced we all share?

Good taste in music!

→ WHAT´S THE BEST PART ABOUT THE CURE´s MUSIC?

There's a song by them for (almost) every kind of mood (sad, happy, crazy, thoughtful...)!

→ DO YOU ALSO CARE ABOUT ROBERT SMITH AS A PERSON?

Yes, but mostly in the way this formed his songs/lyrics.

→ WOULD YOU SAY ROBERT´S CHARACTER IS SIMILIAR TO YOUR OWN?

Partly, maybe. He's sometimes described as "shy, charming, a bit melancholy"...
He runs the band's business almost single-handedly, plus he likes to do things in his own style, which is good imho!

-> DO YOU CARE MOSTLY ABOUT THE MUSIC OR IS THE CURE IMAGE AS IMPORTANT TO YOU?

Music is much more important than image. (Although I liked the image they brought across in their videos etc.)

→ DO YOU IMITATE THE CURE LOOK YOURSELF?

Not really. A little "inspiration" is good, but having one's own style is better.

→ If Robert Smith left the band, would you still remain a fan? (Just wondering...)

This would be the end of the band (I guess), thus: yes, I'd still be a fan of the music.

→ Has Robert Smith or another band member sometimes been like an invisible friend to you?

Sometimes, yes. Back in 1989/'90 or so.
but memory's not life... and it's not love.

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Re: A survey on fan mentality
« Reply #2 on: February 17, 2018, 19:42:16 »
Hey, Ulrich! Thank you for your answers :-)!

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Re: A survey on fan mentality
« Reply #3 on: February 17, 2018, 20:23:04 »
→ HOW AND WHEN DID YOU GET TO KNOW THE CURE? 2017, because of an ex best friend.

→ WHEN AND BECAUSE OF WHAT DID YOU TURN INTO A FAN?

Read above, n also just digging into more of there albums.

→ WHAT OTHER HOBBIES DO YOU HAVE?

Music, art, drums, photography.
→ DO YOU DO SPORTS? DO YOU DANCE?

No I hate sports n no I don't dance.

→ HOW OLD ARE YOU? 16

-> WHAT KINDS OF CLOTHES DO YOU LIKE TO WEAR?

Black, red, punk stuff.

→ Are you “depressed”?

Nope.

→ Do you have or want kids?

[size=78%]No.[/size]

→ DO YOU AGREE WITH THE FOLLOWING STATEMENTS?

Quote1. Robert says fans of the band are “generally very passionate” and “all beautiful and clever.”
2. Simon notes fans often “feel a bit alienated”.
3. Many people are convinced most Cure fans are not that good in sports.
4. Psychoanalyst Catherine Lavaillant stated in the MTV icon show in 2004 that the Cure “helps [fans] with their adolescent issues”.
5. We are all fairly obsessed with our very favorite band.


1. yes2. maybe3. no4. hopefully5. yes→ What else is there that you’re convinced we all share?[size=78%]A great taste in music n kind hearts.→ WHAT´S THE BEST PART ABOUT THE CURE´s MUSIC?Everything→ DO YOU ALSO CARE ABOUT ROBERT SMITH AS A PERSON? Yes.→ WOULD YOU SAY ROBERT´S CHARACTER IS SIMILIAR TO YOUR OWN? A tiny bit.-> DO YOU CARE MOSTLY ABOUT THE MUSIC OR IS THE CURE IMAGE AS IMPORTANT TO YOU? Like Ulrich said, Music is much more important than image. (Although I liked the image they brought across in their videos etc.)→ DO YOU IMITATE THE CURE LOOK YOURSELF? Nope, but maybe a tiny bit.→ If Robert Smith left the band, would you still remain a fan? (Just wondering...)

NO!→ Has Robert Smith or another band member sometimes been like an invisible friend to you? To me, Pearl Thompson has, bc I relate to her the most out of any of the members past n present.[/size]
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Re: A survey on fan mentality
« Reply #4 on: February 18, 2018, 13:05:50 »
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I agree with most of PTB's and Ulrich's answers, so I'm focussed on some minor questions:

→ Do you believe in gender differences?
Hmm. If you watch Morte a Venezia you will find the answer.
 
→ Are you “depressed”?
No, I'm melancholic.
 
→ Do you do any music yourself?
Unfortunately not. I mean not longer. I have collected a number of Oberheim instruments.
 
→ Are you married?
I'm divorced, but since then the relationship to my ex-wife has improved.
 
→ Do you have or want kids?
No, I haven't but I like kids in general.

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Re: A survey on fan mentality
« Reply #5 on: February 19, 2018, 09:28:28 »
Hi, answering just a few questions...

HOW AND WHEN DID YOU GET TO KNOW THE CURE?   
I knew The Cure since around 1987, aged 7, seeing music videos on tv

→ WHEN AND BECAUSE OF WHAT DID YOU TURN INTO A FAN?
When I was about 20 y/o I was browsing a recycled record store and found a copy of The Head On the Door on cassette tape. Played it repeatedly in my car, fell in love. 
Listened to The Cure for many more years in an abstract way, not having much knowledge of the musicians behind the music (much like how I was listening to Pink Floyd at the time).
In 2011 I had the chance to see the Reflections shows in Sydney ...which helped bring things to another level.

>hobbies:  meditation, kundalini yoga

>sports: does walking count?

> Age: 37

>clothes: usually white!  white expands the auric field

>describe fan mentality :   I can't speak for anyone else.  For me it's an experience of feeling an open and unobstructed appreciation, joy and love about the creation (while being aware of myself in the experience, and not slipping into attachment and craving).

>do you also care about RS as a person?  Yes!!! What a beautiful soul! An openness of heart that permeates and shines strongly ...what a blessing, thank you RS for your presence on this earth!!

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Re: A survey on fan mentality
« Reply #6 on: February 19, 2018, 17:23:41 »
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→ DO YOU ALSO CARE ABOUT ROBERT SMITH AS A PERSON?
I admire him as an artist and accept him as human being.

→ WOULD YOU SAY ROBERT´S CHARACTER IS SIMILIAR TO YOUR OWN?
There are in fact similarities. I grew up in a small town where The Cure wasn't
very popular; including a catholic background. This is something that I share with
Robert and Lol.
 
-> DO YOU CARE MOSTLY ABOUT THE MUSIC OR IS THE CURE IMAGE AS IMPORTANT TO YOU?
The music is the key to The Cure - the B-sides in particular.
 
→ DO YOU IMITATE THE CURE LOOK YOURSELF?
Yes. Not excessive, but I like Robert's style and colors like black, brown,
green, (ocean)grey, red and combinations of them. I have long hair but I'm
not wearing make-up.
 

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Re: A survey on fan mentality
« Reply #7 on: February 19, 2018, 21:55:11 »
Hey, very happy to help you out and I am curious about your conclusions as well. Would you care to post (some of) your conclusions if ready?
Courage with the task  :smth023

→ HOW AND WHEN DID YOU GET TO KNOW THE CURE?
In the beginning of 2017, YouTube suggested a version of 'A forest' wich sucked me into the band. Since that night there hasn't been a day passed without listening The Cure

→ WHEN AND BECAUSE OF WHAT DID YOU TURN INTO A FAN?
Became a fan because of the exceptionally good music and lyrics and the melancholy of the music that is so soothing. Also The Cure is so very creative. I love the videoclips they make!


[/b]→ WHAT OTHER HOBBIES DO YOU HAVE?
Music, cinema, reading on my sofa with a cup of coffee, art, visiting museums, fitness, walking, the sea, a forest, travelling (preferably road trip), ....

→ DO YOU DO SPORTS? DO YOU DANCE?
Fitness and I love to 'dance' well..I am just moving to the music but more like I feel it and not caring about the esthetics

→ HOW OLD ARE YOU?
37
 
→ Are you “depressed”?
No

→ Do you do any music yourself?
Unfortunately no, have no talent for it
 

→ HOW WOULD YOU DESCRIBE OUR GENERAL FAN MENTALITY?
Intense

→ DO YOU AGREE WITH THE FOLLOWING STATEMENTS?
1. Robert says fans of the band are “generally very passionate” and “all beautiful and clever.”
Yes generally
 
2. Simon notes fans often “feel a bit alienated”.
I know I do

3. Many people are convinced most Cure fans are not that good in sports.
That is nonsense

5. We are all fairly obsessed with our very favorite band.
Yes :D

→ WHAT´S THE BEST PART ABOUT THE CURE´s MUSIC?
Variety and intensity
For every mood or activity there is a song
A lot of the songs are based on beautiful books or poems 

THE BAND PERSONA AND IMAGE
→ DO YOU ALSO CARE ABOUT ROBERT SMITH AS A PERSON?
Yes, his lyrics and manners show he is a very sensitive and beautiful person. In interviews it shows as well. He is an inspiration for and helped so many people true his music. I care.

-> DO YOU CARE MOSTLY ABOUT THE MUSIC OR IS THE CURE IMAGE AS IMPORTANT TO YOU?
The music is most important. I could do without the image but never without the music!

→ DO YOU IMITATE THE CURE LOOK YOURSELF?
No
 
→ Has Robert Smith or another band member sometimes been like an invisible friend to you?
No
 
→ Do you have a favorite band member?
Robert


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Re: A survey on fan mentality
« Reply #8 on: February 19, 2018, 22:45:06 »
→ HOW AND WHEN DID YOU GET TO KNOW THE CURE?
high school in the 1990

→ WHEN AND BECAUSE OF WHAT DID YOU TURN INTO A FAN?
Quite immediately, I felt different from the majority and their music perfectly fitted with my (sort of) teens depression

→ WHAT OTHER HOBBIES DO YOU HAVE?
Reading, cartoons and TV series, photography, social media
→ DO YOU DO SPORTS? DO YOU DANCE?
skiing (sometimes), swimming (sometimes), biking. I dance mainly at home
→ HOW WOULD YOU DESCRIBE YOURSELF?
always a kid
→ HOW OLD ARE YOU?
42
-> WHAT KINDS OF CLOTHES DO YOU LIKE TO WEAR?
99% black
→ Are you “depressed”?
once a month
→ Do you do any music yourself?
I would
→ Are you married?
yes
→ Do you have or want kids?
No but I am a happy aunt

→ DO YOU AGREE WITH THE FOLLOWING STATEMENTS?
1. Robert says fans of the band are “generally very passionate” and “all beautiful and clever.”
Agree
2. Simon notes fans often “feel a bit alienated”
it could be
3. Many people are convinced most Cure fans are not that good in sports
I don't think so
4. Psychoanalyst Catherine Lavaillant stated in the MTV icon show in 2004 that the Cure “helps [fans] with their adolescent issues”
Not only adolescent
5. We are all fairly obsessed with our very favorite band
I am

→ WHAT´S THE BEST PART ABOUT THE CURE´s MUSIC?
There is a song for every state of mind

→ DO YOU ALSO CARE ABOUT ROBERT SMITH AS A PERSON?
yes
-> DO YOU CARE MOSTLY ABOUT THE MUSIC OR IS THE CURE IMAGE AS IMPORTANT TO YOU?
Music comes first of course
→ DO YOU IMITATE THE CURE LOOK YOURSELF?
I did
Lets my memory be perverted to the uses    
Of lying and oppression.    
My lovers and their children must not be dispossessed of me;
I would be the untarnished possession forever
Of those for whom I lived.
(Spoon River Anthology, E.L.M.)

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Re: A survey on fan mentality
« Reply #9 on: February 20, 2018, 06:11:21 »
I forgot to awnser to the are u married question oops.


I am not married but me n my girl Mary plan to get married in the future.  :oops: :oops:
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Re: A survey on fan mentality
« Reply #10 on: February 20, 2018, 17:16:55 »
>sports: does walking count?

O yes. After two hours of walking I feel like a new man.  :smth023
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Re: A survey on fan mentality
« Reply #11 on: February 20, 2018, 20:59:18 »
Just formatted the questionnaire a bit so that is easier for others to participate. Hope it's OK for TRWASDOC :) I will be posting my answers later.

Just copy paste the text below in your reply to keep the questionnaire's format:

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[size=14pt]A survey of fan mentality: The Cure[/size]

[size=12pt]In General[/size]

How and when did you get to know the cure?

When and because of what did you turn  into a fan?

[size=12pt]You (I’ll be writing about what we, as fans, have in common, so this part is on your person)[/size]

What other hobbies do you have?

Do you do sports? Do you dance?

How would you describe yourself?

How old are you?

What kinds of clothes do you like to wear?

Do you believe in gender differences?

Are you "depressed"?

Do you do any music yourself?

Are you married?

Do you have or want kids?

[size=12pt]Us (What do we think of our own fan attitude?)[/size]

How would you describe our general fan mentality?

Do you agree with the following statements?:

1. Robert says fans of the band are “generally very passionate” and “all beautiful and clever.”

2. Simon notes fans often “feel a bit alienated”.

3. Many people are convinced most Cure fans are not that good in sports.

4. Psychoanalyst Catherine Lavaillant stated in the MTV icon show in 2004 that the Cure “helps [fans]
with their adolescent issues”.

5. We are all fairly obsessed with our very favorite band.

What else is there that you’re convinced we all share?

[size=12pt]The Cure Music[/size]

What's the best part about the Cure's music?

[size=12pt]The Band Persona and Image[/size]

Do you also care about Robert Smith as a person?

Would you say Robert's character is similar to your own?

Do you care mostly about the music or is the cure image as important to you?

Do you imitate The Cure look yourself?

If Robert Smith left the band, would you still remain a fan? (Just wondering...)

Has Robert Smith or another band member sometimes been like an invisible friend to you?

Do you have a favorite band member?
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Re: A survey on fan mentality
« Reply #12 on: February 20, 2018, 21:08:10 »
@David
Good idea.

@TRWASDOC
Someone asked for your conclusions at a later time. That's OK,
but I think you should answer the major questions as well, shouldn't you?
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Re: A survey on fan mentality
« Reply #13 on: February 20, 2018, 21:12:48 »
A survey of fan mentality: The Cure

In General

How and when did you get to know The Cure?
Around 1992...the time Wish was released, more details click here.

When and because of what did you turn  into a fan?
See above. But I think watching "The Cure In Orange" made me a The Cure fan. That concert is just perfect.

You (I’ll be writing about what we, as fans, have in common, so this part is on your person)

What other hobbies do you have?
football, cycling, movies, records collecting

Do you do sports? Do you dance?
yes, yes

How would you describe yourself?
sociable, open minded

How old are you?
Fourty

What kinds of clothes do you like to wear?
casual, jeans and shirts

Do you believe in gender differences?
yes

Are you "depressed"?
no

Do you do any music yourself?
no

Are you married?
yes

Do you have or want kids?
no, yes

Us (What do we think of our own fan attitude?)

How would you describe our general fan mentality?
a bit obsessive at times

Do you agree with the following statements?:

1. Robert says fans of the band are "generally very passionate" and "all beautiful and clever
yes to the first statement

2. Simon notes fans often feel a bit alienated.
yes

3. Many people are convinced most Cure fans are not that good in sports.
yes

4. Psychoanalyst Catherine Lavaillant stated in the MTV icon show in 2004 that the Cure "helps [fans]
with their adolescent issues”.
yes

5. We are all fairly obsessed with our very favorite band.
yes

What else is there that you’re convinced we all share?
melancholy

The Cure Music

What's the best part about the Cure's music?
its melancholy, its beautines, its sadness, its (often) powerful lyrics

The Band Persona and Image

Do you also care about Robert Smith as a person?
no

Would you say Robert's character is similar to your own?
no

Do you care mostly about the music or is the cure image as important to you?
100% music

Do you imitate The Cure look yourself?
no

If Robert Smith left the band, would you still remain a fan? (Just wondering...)
yes (if Simon is still there)

Has Robert Smith or another band member sometimes been like an invisible friend to you?
no
 
Do you have a favorite band member?
Simon
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Re: A survey on fan mentality
« Reply #14 on: February 21, 2018, 05:42:37 »
How and when did you get to know the cure? Through my older sister at 8 years old.

When and because of what did you turn  into a fan? I turned into a devoted fan (was always a fan) at age 14 with the release of Wish.

You (I’ll be writing about what we, as fans, have in common, so this part is on your person)

What other hobbies do you have? Making jewelry, collecting silk clothes, swimming, modeling, painting, creating gorgeous art, running on beach, practicing yoga, studying about health and nutrition, watching Brain Cox docs on physics, self-improvement.

Do you do sports? Do you dance? Not really on sports, but yes on dance, spontaneously.

How would you describe yourself? Humanitarian, peaceful, deep, compassionate, happy, healthy, energetic, inspired, creative, unique, self-aware.

How old are you? 40.

What kinds of clothes do you like to wear? Silk, all natural fibers, colorful, casual but elegant, gypsy artist, comfortable.

Do you believe in gender differences? Yes. Men tend to be more rational and women tend to be more emotional, but there are exceptions.

Are you "depressed"? No. I take plenty of B 12 and B complex.

Do you do any music yourself? Not really, although I've always had a singing voice that people compliment.

Are you married? Almost.

Do you have or want kids? No I don't have kids. I don't really want any, but I do like kids.

Us (What do we think of our own fan attitude?)

How would you describe our general fan mentality? Sweet, depthful, loyal.

Do you agree with the following statements?:

1. Robert says fans of the band are “generally very passionate” and “all beautiful and clever.”  Yes!

2. Simon notes fans often “feel a bit alienated”. Yes, I think fans tend to feel like they don't "fit in" in general.

3. Many people are convinced most Cure fans are not that good in sports. I never knew that anybody thought that. No, I don't think it's true.

4. Psychoanalyst Catherine Lavaillant stated in the MTV icon show in 2004 that the Cure “helps [fans]
with their adolescent issues”. OH YES! The Cure reflected my deepest issues as a teen. They spoke to my soul (and still do).

5. We are all fairly obsessed with our very favorite band. I've noticed that there are some Cure fans who are obsessed, but many like other bands as much. The Cure is the only band I will wait for long periods of time to see.

What else is there that you’re convinced we all share? Not sure. I think we're all pretty unique.

The Cure Music

What's the best part about the Cure's music? The way it makes me feel. So loved, so inspired.

The Band Persona and Image

Do you also care about Robert Smith as a person? YES!!! I want him to be healthy.

Would you say Robert's character is similar to your own? Yes, I think I do have a lot in common with Robert; such as our Moons are both in Libra, our Mars are both in Cancer, we both have a lot of paradox in our astro charts, and the self-conscious shyness (which yoga and exercise and eating plant-based has helped me get beyond) and our interest in peace, in fairness, how we love people.

Do you care mostly about the music or is the cure image as important to you? Mostly about the music. Sometimes I'd like to see Bob sing without make-up, but I do LOVE the image, too.

Do you imitate The Cure look yourself? I do emulate Robert Smith pretty well. I used to try to dress like him, but these days I think I dress more like a lady.

If Robert Smith left the band, would you still remain a fan? (Just wondering...) Not really. I'd hope that Robert would go solo if he left the band, but I probably wouldn't follow a band without Robert in it.

Has Robert Smith or another band member sometimes been like an invisible friend to you? Not really.

Do you have a favorite band member? Robert Smith. <3