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Title: What's the story behind The Cure at the Bizarre Festival 1998?
Post by: Janko on September 03, 2005, 21:54:32
I'd like to ask stuff that happened behind various Cure gigs.
You could do that  too...

:-D

What's the story behind THE CURE AT BIZZARE FESTIVAL 1998
There were equipment problems, but the band seems in rather strange mood...

What do you think?!

:roll:
Title: Whats the story?!
Post by: arielcc on September 04, 2005, 03:32:49
i have just listened this show again!! Robert seems to be very drunk! i also read somewhere else that he vomited during one song but i can find which one!
i will give it a listened tomorrow morning!!

ariel
Title: Whats the story?!
Post by: smitha on September 04, 2005, 14:00:07
I don't have the show, but have heard that in Lyon98 he was much more drunk. I have listened to One Hundred Years from this concert he cannot sing a big part of the song...
Title: Whats the story?!
Post by: lostflower4 on September 04, 2005, 14:39:35
You are very right, this is one of the most unusual concerts I have ever seen or heard. Watching the video of this, it's clear that most (all?) of the band is wasted. Perry is bouncing all over the stage, and Simon makes an unusually large number of mistakes. Roger makes some jerking around movements (kind of like Lol used to), and Robert makes up new melodies and improvises the words...

I thought it was really funny during 10.15 Saturday Night. During Simon's bass solo, he messes up pretty bad, then just gives up after a while and stops playing. Also, Robert sings the lyrics of Watching Me Fall during Untitled. I actually thought in a way this concert was great because they seemed more energetic and carefree. Sometimes I thought Perry actually played better than usual, like he had more confidence.

Overall, a pretty sloppy performance though. But an interesting moment in Cure history!
Title: Whats the story?!
Post by: zinnsoldat on September 04, 2005, 16:52:25
oh..
I would really like to see the video of Lyon98. This thread made me curious and I read a few reviews of the concert on chainofflowers and what I read :shock: . At that moment I knew that I have to see this video :D .
Title: Whats the story?!
Post by: cult_hero on September 04, 2005, 17:45:33
1998 was a bad cure-year!  :oops:  the most interessting part of the bizarre-concert is the beginnig of "untitled": robert sang the first lines from "watching me fall".
Title: Whats the story?!
Post by: smitha on September 04, 2005, 21:15:19
i would love to watch the video too, as it seems robert hardly stands up on the stage. I also heard that roger looks at robert as if he had to stop the playing and hold him just to help him not falling to the floor. It would be nice to see what's is true and what's rumoured...  :-D
Title: Whats the story?!
Post by: Janko on September 04, 2005, 22:32:45
Interesting that however they drank during their history - they didnt mess things so much, not to mention cancelling the gigs (God forbid!).

I think that they are so good tehnically (especielly Simon - he's reliable and precise as a rock thrown at your face  :twisted: ) that they dont NEED to stay sober - to sound good whenever, however... Huh, bizzare show...

I mean SHAKE DOG SHAKE sounds really great - especially JASON'S vile drum set molesting...  :-D
Title: Whats the story?!
Post by: Beesley Wytchboy on September 05, 2005, 22:52:44
WOw I thought thiws gig was really rather good and they dont seem that drunk to me.
SHake dog shake is amazing and UNtitled is stunning not to mention the killer rendition of Wrong Number.
Though I guess the DVD is called a Strange day for a reason! :-D
Title: Whats the story?!
Post by: CureWhispers on September 06, 2005, 17:59:38
:D OMG!! I so want to see and hear this show!!!!! It sounds hilarious!!! So PLEASE PM me somebody if you have it!!! Thanx!!  :D
Title: Whats the story?!
Post by: j on September 06, 2005, 19:11:12
Lyon 98 will be on my site as soon as I can get my technical issues rectified.....
Title: Whats the story?!
Post by: Janko on September 06, 2005, 23:28:03
One caracteristic bootleg review:

1986.08.04 "Dax Arenes de Dax"   -   Robert is very drunk.

:-D  :-D  :-D

However, lets not talk about them as if they were Pogues.

:roll:
Title: Whats the story?!
Post by: smitha on September 07, 2005, 11:58:51
thank you jeff
can't wait for it
Title: Whats the story?!
Post by: zinnsoldat on September 07, 2005, 12:10:51
thank you very much! :D
Title: Whats the story?!
Post by: j on September 08, 2005, 08:59:41
Lyon 98 is uploaded on a new server. Now if I can just figure out how to allow everyone to get it.....stupid technology!
Title: Whats the story?!
Post by: nevyn on September 08, 2005, 10:59:37
I hope you will manage to do it :)
Title: Whats the story?!
Post by: Janko on September 09, 2005, 22:02:09
Algedly there was a gig in Grenoble in 1985 where Lourence sang "Wild Thing" in order to celebrate 9 years of the band on stage...

Any ideas of known recording of this?!

:?
Title: Whats the story?!
Post by: dsanchez on September 09, 2005, 23:10:01
Lyon?
Are you guys not talking about the concert in Koln? "Bizarre Festival"...I remember the keyboards from ROGER didnt sound at the beginning from "Shake dog Shake"...

Quote from: zinnsoldatoh..
I would really like to see the video of Lyon98. This thread made me curious and I read a few reviews of the concert on chainofflowers and what I read :shock: . At that moment I knew that I have to see this video :D .
Title: Whats the story?!
Post by: lostflower4 on September 09, 2005, 23:53:46
No, I think there's a consensus that the Lyon show was a drunken disaster as well!

The Bizarre Fest definitely had it moments, but it seems that Lyon did too. One day I'll get a good video of this...
Title: Whats the story?!
Post by: dsanchez on September 10, 2005, 00:01:58
Sorry dude, as the first post had the subject "Bizarre Festival" I thought you did mean this one from Koln...

Now I am curious as well :smt017

Quote from: lostflower4No, I think there's a consensus that the Lyon show was a drunken disaster as well!

The Bizarre Fest definitely had it moments, but it seems that Lyon did too. One day I'll get a good video of this...
Title: Whats the story?!
Post by: lostflower4 on September 10, 2005, 00:21:18
Quote from: JankoAlgedly there was a gig in Grenoble in 1985 where Lourence sang "Wild Thing" in order to celebrate 9 years of the band on stage...

Any ideas of known recording of this?!

:?

The recordings I know of this don't have Wild Thing. There is some debate as to whether it was actually played at this venue.

Let me do some checking...
Title: Whats the story?!
Post by: Janko on September 10, 2005, 22:51:12
Quote from: dsanchezLyon?
Are you guys not talking about the concert in Koln? "Bizarre Festival"...I remember the keyboards from ROGER didnt sound at the beginning from "Shake dog Shake"...

Quote from: zinnsoldatoh..
I would really like to see the video of Lyon98. This thread made me curious and I read a few reviews of the concert on chainofflowers and what I read :shock: . At that moment I knew that I have to see this video :D .

Well I saw Shake Dog Shake from Bizzare Festival and it apears that Roger is not there when song starts... he runs over to the keyboards pretty late... cameras show him coming from the front of keyboards behind... smiling.

Not that he was essential for the song. Shake Dog Shake works great with or without keyboards...

Concerning Lol singing "Wild Thing" ... I didnt find this recording nor is this gig mentioned at known resources (besides 'Curenews' where I originally saw it)...
Title: Whats the story?!
Post by: smitha on September 10, 2005, 23:30:38
i used to have it in mp3...  :(
Title: Whats the story?!
Post by: lostflower4 on September 10, 2005, 23:50:02
Quote from: smithai used to have it in mp3...  :(

You had Lol singing Wild Thing???
Title: Whats the story?!
Post by: smitha on September 11, 2005, 01:08:55
uff

i guess it was lol. Once i found a mp3 being shared somewhere as the cure cover of Wild Thing. It had very bad quality. I lost it when my drive was gone.
Hmmm... but concerning on you reaction, maybe it was just a fake song... or not... i really don't know how is Lol's singing voice. And as i said it had very bad quality.
Title: Whats the story?!
Post by: lostflower4 on September 11, 2005, 01:31:51
Quote from: smithauff

i guess it was lol. Once i found a mp3 being shared somewhere as the cure cover of Wild Thing. It had very bad quality. I lost it when my drive was gone.
Hmmm... but concerning on you reaction, maybe it was just a fake song... or not... i really don't know how is Lol's singing voice. And as i said it had very bad quality.

According to cure-concerts.de, the only known recording of Wild Thing is from the second night of New York '87. I think I might know the recording you're talking about. I got it off a P2P network a long time ago. The quality is terrible. But on this one it's surely Robert. I also have a version  I got from curetrade some months ago with better sound, but it's the same show.

Toward the end Robert starts singing/talking in a really strange voice (unless Lol took over at that point), but I don't know. It's still not Grenoble '85, that's for sure.

So... ??? :roll:
Title: Whats the story?!
Post by: smitha on September 11, 2005, 17:43:59
what can i say? i haven't it anymore,so i cannot confirm it. Probably it was not Lol.
Title: Whats the story?!
Post by: Janko on September 21, 2005, 01:55:31
Whats the story with The Cure PEEL SESSIONS for Japaneese Whispers, The Top and Head On The Door?!

I heard only two songs (Just One Kiss and Six Different Ways) and I heard that Peel didnt play them after HOTD...

These sessions are extremely rare mentioned so I thought I should ask...


PS

And another off topic thing:
(silly one)
Is Robert SMOKER?! I think he is. I suspect.But I did not see any new photos of him with cigarette.
Any other members?!

PS pt2

I dont smoke, and I dont endorse it.
It just bloody bothers me!!!
Title: Whats the story?!
Post by: lostflower4 on September 21, 2005, 02:45:13
Quote from: JankoWhats the story with The Cure PEEL SESSIONS for Japaneese Whispers, The Top and Head On The Door?!

And another off topic thing:
(silly one)
Is Robert SMOKER?! I think he is. I suspect.But I did not see any new photos of him with a cigarette.
Any other members?!

The Cure did not play a Peel Session for the Japanese Whispers era. What you heard was the Kid Jensen session, which is also where "Ariel" comes from. The Top session is extremely rare, and The Head on the Door session more common. They played "The Exploding Boy" on that one, which is kind of interesting. You can find a lot of info about Cure radio and TV sessions here:

http://www.cure-concerts.de/fmtv.htm


I've always wondered the same thing about Robert and smoking. I've only seen one photograph of him with cigarette. It was in the Ten Imaginary Boys book. If he does, he sure is good at concealing it!

I know that Simon, at least at one time, enjoyed a good :smt033. I read an article about a press conference from '92 that said, "Simon is hauling away on a joint." I've seen Boris smoke in a video before. And Lol... Well, I think we all know he was a smoker.

:smt025
Title: Whats the story?!
Post by: Janko on September 21, 2005, 10:26:21
Well, the pictures of all members with cigarettes are very common on Pornography (and all before) pictures.

And Robert is mentioned in one of the books that he had to quit cigarettes circa HOTD (or even The Top) becouse his health problems...

But then... I clearly remmember that I saw (or dreamed though) that there was an article (circa 'Bloodflwers') in which some journalist and Robert and few other blokes go out on drinking binge and interview where Robert smokes 'Gouloisse' or some such...

:-D
Title: Whats the story?!
Post by: Janko on October 31, 2005, 17:11:58
Yup, Robert does smoke....


(http://coverthecure.free.fr//Cover%20boot/2000/Hotel%20Conrad/990204B.jpg)
Title: Whats the story?!
Post by: Janko on October 31, 2005, 17:22:51
That is He Did smoke then...

I got another trivial issue to ask about:

DID YOU HEAR THE VOICES OF ALL BAND MEMBERS?!

Beside Robert's small talk, there is not many ocasions to hear others speak...

I only heard Simon's voice on that KROQ interview...

:oops:  :oops:  :oops:
Title: Whats the story?!
Post by: japanesebaby on November 01, 2005, 16:06:44
Quote from: lostflower4I've always wondered the same thing about Robert and smoking. I've only seen one photograph of him with cigarette. It was in the Ten Imaginary Boys book. If he does, he sure is good at concealing it!

i think i've seen a couple of photos (but they are all old ones, around '83 or '84). but i've heard from one person whose friend... (ha ha what a way to start a topic - now everyone will believe me on this for sure oh yes... sure it sounds like an urban legend but at least i do believe my source... well anyway:
...attended the bloodflowers show in paris & managed to get an autograph from robert afterwards that robert was 'casually smoking' while he wrote the autograph  :smt033
Title: Re: Whats the story?!
Post by: dsanchez on November 14, 2016, 21:06:10
Quote from: zinnsoldat on September 04, 2005, 16:52:25
I would really like to see the video of Lyon98.

Well, indeed he seems a bit! drunk. His erratic behaviour, the fact that he sings very close to the audience (he never does that) and touches them (he NEVER does that)...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SWxQnxwtPc0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gk_rMfVXVBU
Title: Re: Whats the story?!
Post by: MeltingMan on November 15, 2016, 17:06:44
Quote from: dsanchez on November 14, 2016, 21:06:10His erratic behaviour, the fact that he sings very close to the audience (he never does that) and touches them (he NEVER does that)...
😔
Title: Re: What's the story behind The Cure at the Bizarre Festival 1998?
Post by: theStarveling on November 15, 2016, 17:10:37
another video from 1998.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uPxpy40NddM

the best part of it :2:49
fortunately, he's mature enough now to cut down the amount of alcohol he's drinking before the shows.
Title: Re: What's the story behind The Cure at the Bizarre Festival 1998?
Post by: Ulrich on November 15, 2016, 17:18:59
Quote from: theStarveling on November 15, 2016, 17:10:37
another video from 1998.

Ah, I still have parts of this gig on a videotape somewhere (along with another festival show from '98)!
I loved it at the time, not because it was their best gig, but because it was real fun to watch!  :lol:
Robert's lying on the floor at one point and Simon's walking over to look if he's okay, while Roger's shaking his head in disbelief.  :-D