From the official Facebook profile:
Quote
'DISINTEGRATION' COMES OF AGE?!!
THE REMASTERED 'DISINTEGRATION' ALBUM (21ST ANNIVERSARY EDITION) WILL BE RELEASED WORLDWIDE IN SPRING 2010 ON UNIVERSAL AND RHINO
IT WILL BE AVAILABLE AS PART OF A 3CD DELUXE EDITION, AS A SINGLE CD AND ON DOUBLE VINYL
THE 3CD DELUXE EDITION WILL COMPRISE:
>
CD1 DISINTEGRATION
01 PLAINSONG
02 PICTURES OF YOU
03 CLOSEDOWN
04 LOVESONG
05 LAST DANCE
06 LULLABY
07 FASCINATION STREET
08 PRAYERS FOR RAIN
09 THE SAME DEEP WATER AS YOU
10 DISINTEGRATION
11 HOMESICK
12 UNTITLED
CD2 RARITIES (1988 - 1989)
ALL PREVIOUSLY UNRELEASED VERSIONS
(* PREVIOUSLY UNRELEASED SONG)
01 PRAYERS FOR RAIN
-RS HOME DEMO (instrumental)-04/88
02 PICTURES OF YOU
-RS HOME DEMO (instrumental)-04/88
03 FASCINATION STREET
-RS HOME DEMO (instrumental)-04/88
04 HOMESICK
-BAND REHEARSAL (instrumental)-06/88
05 FEAR OF GHOSTS
-BAND REHEARSAL (instrumental)-06/88
06 NOHEART
-BAND REHEARSAL (instrumental)-06/88 *
07 ESTEN
-BAND DEMO (instrumental)-09/88 *
08 CLOSEDOWN
-BAND DEMO (instrumental)-09/88
09 LOVESONG
-BAND DEMO (instrumental)-09/88
10 2LATE (alt version)
-BAND DEMO (instrumental)-09/88
11 THE SAME DEEP WATER AS YOU
-BAND DEMO (instrumental)-09/88
12 DISINTEGRATION
-BAND DEMO (instrumental)-09/88
13 UNTITLED (alt version)
-STUDIO ROUGH (instrumental)-11/88
14 BABBLE (alt version)
-STUDIO ROUGH (instrumental)-11/88
15 PLAINSONG
-STUDIO ROUGH (guide vocal)-11/88
16 LAST DANCE
-STUDIO ROUGH (guide vocal)-11/88
17 LULLABY
-STUDIO ROUGH (guide vocal)-11/88
18 OUT OF MIND
-STUDIO ROUGH (guide vocal)-11/88
19 DELIRIOUS NIGHT
-ROUGH MIX (vocal)-12/88 *
20 PIRATE SHIPS
-(RS solo) ROUGH MIX (vocal)-12/89 *
CD3 ENTREAT PLUS
RECORDED LIVE AT WEMBLEY ARENA 1989
REMIXED BY RS 2009
(* PREVIOUSLY UNRELEASED PERFORMANCE)
01 PLAINSONG *
02 PICTURES OF YOU
03 CLOSEDOWN
04 LOVESONG *
05 LAST DANCE
06 LULLABY *
07 FASCINATION STREET
08 PRAYERS FOR RAIN
09 THE SAME DEEP WATER AS YOU *
10 DISINTEGRATION
11 HOMESICK
12 UNTITLED
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THE SINGLE CD WILL BE THE 12 TRACK ALBUM, AS WILL THE DOUBLE VINYL
...AND IT IS LIKELY A REMASTERED VERSION OF THE ORIGINAL 8 TRACK 'ENTREAT' LIVE ALBUM WILL BE MADE AVAILABLE ONLINE...
THERE WILL BE A LOT MORE REMASTERED CURE STUFF IN 2010... INCLUDING MIXED UP 2... THE CURE @ THE BBC BOX SET... IN ORANGE AND SHOW ON DVD... AND...
ONWARDS!
RSX
Quote from: Janko on October 08, 2009, 19:00:07
From the official Facebook profile:
Witch official Facebook profile ??
Thanks for this info :smth023
Yes yes yes!!!!!! :-D :rocker :smth060 :smth048 :smth041
I join the same request of Trust....wich is the offcial fb profile??
Thanks for the info, Janko! :smth023
QuoteTHERE WILL BE A LOT MORE REMASTERED CURE STUFF IN 2010... INCLUDING MIXED UP 2... THE CURE @ THE BBC BOX SET... IN ORANGE AND SHOW ON DVD... AND...
Wow...!!! :roll:
YES PLEASE TELL US :rocker
The news is also on the official site!!!! :D
http://www.thecure.com/blog/default.aspx?nid=23104
What a beautiful day!!! :-D
Quote from: Lady on October 08, 2009, 21:16:54
The news is also on the official site!!!! :D
http://www.thecure.com/blog/default.aspx?nid=23104
What a beautiful day!!! :-D
And on all the facebook-curefan-friends profiles :-D Big smile :D I thought there was no end at the too long silent time. They still there and they are full off plans :rocker
Ahahah maybe the listening of the happy-curesongs took good luck to us!!! ;) :-D
Quote from: Lady on October 08, 2009, 21:31:29
Ahahah maybe the listening of the happy-curesongs took good luck to us!!! ;) :-D
Yes who knows :-D The happy-curesongs for the good news and next we have to listen the dark-curesongs,
for ... the DA ;)
:smth023 (...and fingers crossed)
is this for real? oh my. that 3rd disc is what i've been waiting for since ........................................
This is great news!
Very much looking forward to hearing the full entreat, I hope the intro bells are fully included - they send a tingle up my spine every time I hear them!!!
and the dvds.... :D
Quote from: othervoices on October 09, 2009, 13:56:35
This is great news!
Very much looking forward to hearing the full entreat
Well it's just a four songs more, more like Disintegration live...
I got so used to track listing of Entreat... It's one of my favorite Cure CD's!
Quote from: Trust... on October 08, 2009, 20:53:50
Quote from: Janko on October 08, 2009, 19:00:07
From the official Facebook profile:
Witch official Facebook profile ??
Search by typing The Cure and find the one with 4:13 Dream cover on the profile photo.
Note that second CD has 20 songs, which means there's a little chance they'll fit on one CD.
Quote from: Janko on October 09, 2009, 16:10:10
Note that second CD has 20 songs, which means there's a little chance they'll fit on one CD.
Some of the demo tracks will be short takes so I expect it will be a single cd2
The "full" entreat will be wonderful, I always remember when the original promo came out in 1990 how I felt that there had been a missed opportunity for them to release a full live disintegration, songs like tsdway had so much emotion live...
This wonderful news makes my day, makes my week, makes my month?!! :D :rocker
Quote from: Janko on October 09, 2009, 16:08:35
Quote from: Trust... on October 08, 2009, 20:53:50
Quote from: Janko on October 08, 2009, 19:00:07
From the official Facebook profile:
Witch official Facebook profile ??
Search by typing The Cure and find the one with 4:13 Dream cover on the profile photo.
:smth023 Thanks I will do it immediately :-D
Quote from: Trust... on October 09, 2009, 19:32:02
:smth023 Thanks I will do it immediately :-D
I had it already :-D But I didn't had a news-update :( Thanks anyway :smth023
:smth022 :smth022 :smth022
my favorite album!!!! this is so wonderful... and a complete surprise after the past rumors!!!
:rocker
Hurraaaah! =D
Sounds like they've saved the best Deluxe package for the best Cure album. Really can't wait for this. One question though, what about the "Wish" deluxe edition?
Quote from: CharJamOl on October 12, 2009, 15:41:33
Sounds like they've saved the best Deluxe package for the best Cure album. Really can't wait for this. One question though, what about the "Wish" deluxe edition?
Well, before
Wish, there's a
BBC sessions CD that I'm really anxious to see released: with sessions for:
John Peel
&
Kid Jensen (Ariel full and clear version!!!!)
+
(If there were a) Janice Long sessions
Then I'd like a
Mixed Up, and
In Orange &
Play Out DVDs
Yay! Looking forward to it :)
Yeah, give me it. I guess this means entreat deluxe is buried. A good thing
i guess because it would be impossible to fill entreat disk with anything other than disintegration tracks. Then hopefully maybe someday a separate full prayer tour recording.
not my favorite album, but i will definitely buy this for the live performance and also the three "new" songs. :smth023
News from COF - Thanks COF :smth023
Tuesday, December 15, 2009
Disintegration 3 CD remaster in Feb!
Update: Amazon (US), Amazon (UK), and Amazon (Germany) have it up for pre-ordering, though note that the UK and German sites only list the US import right now.
Rhino has given the 3 CD remastered edition of Disintegration a release date (subject to change, of course) - Feb. 16th, 2010 in the US. (Thanks Friend of CoF)
Quote from: Trust... on December 17, 2009, 10:45:17
News from COF - Thanks COF :smth023
Tuesday, December 15, 2009
Disintegration 3 CD remaster in Feb!
Update: Amazon (US), Amazon (UK), and Amazon (Germany) have it up for pre-ordering, though note that the UK and German sites only list the US import right now.
Rhino has given the 3 CD remastered edition of Disintegration a release date (subject to change, of course) - Feb. 16th, 2010 in the US. (Thanks Friend of CoF)
:smth023
People can pre-order by following this link (http://www.amazon.com/Disintegration-20th-Anniversary-Cure/dp/B0030U1TLQ?&camp=212361&linkCode=wsw&tag=curefanscom-20&creative=380785) (Amazon International) or this link (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Disintegration-20th-Anniversary-Cure/dp/B0030U1TLQ?&camp=212361&linkCode=wsw&tag=curefanscom-20&creative=380785) for UK (and so Europe)
Quote from: dsanchez on December 17, 2009, 14:05:59
People can pre-order by following this link (http://www.amazon.com/Disintegration-20th-Anniversary-Cure/dp/B0030U1TLQ?&camp=212361&linkCode=wsw&tag=curefanscom-20&creative=380785)
also available for preorder in australia, here:
http://www.jbhifionline.com.au/music/alternative/disintegration-deluxe-edition/473554 (http://www.jbhifionline.com.au/music/alternative/disintegration-deluxe-edition/473554)
no european links yet, for instance nothing on play.com.
Quote from: japanesebaby on December 17, 2009, 14:32:40
Quote from: dsanchez on December 17, 2009, 14:05:59
People can pre-order by following this link (http://www.amazon.com/Disintegration-20th-Anniversary-Cure/dp/B0030U1TLQ?&camp=212361&linkCode=wsw&tag=curefanscom-20&creative=380785)
also available for preorder in australia, here:
http://www.jbhifionline.com.au/music/alternative/disintegration-deluxe-edition/473554 (http://www.jbhifionline.com.au/music/alternative/disintegration-deluxe-edition/473554)
no european links yet, for instance nothing on play.com.
lucky australians...
Well, an album with a title like that is bound to get delayed or lost somewhere down the line.
Well from yesterday you can pre-order it from CD-ON http://cdon.se/musik/cure/disintegration_(20th_anniversa_%5bimport%5d-7791850 (http://cdon.se/musik/cure/disintegration_(20th_anniversa_%5bimport%5d-7791850) here in Sweden. Release date 2010 02 16 and an expensive li´l bastard. Absolutely not my favourite album but my guess is that I´ll buy it anyway.
Quote from: fiction on December 17, 2009, 17:09:50
Well, an album with a title like that is bound to get delayed or lost somewhere down the line.
My thoughts exactly!
Release seems to be pushed back to March (COF)
damnit
Release date in Germany is February 12. Pre-order here :)
http://www.amazon.de/Disintegration-Deluxe-Cure/dp/B00318EDD8/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1262558483&sr=8-2 (http://www.amazon.de/Disintegration-Deluxe-Cure/dp/B00318EDD8/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1262558483&sr=8-2)
Some news :rocker Thanks to COF!
Wednesday, January 6, 2010
Disintegration 3 CD edition covers & info
Cover art for Disintegration, the Extras, and Entreat Plus.
Key Features:
3 disc Deluxe Edition including the original album, a second disc of rarities and the live album Entreat Plus
- Digitally re-mastered from the original master tapes
- Compiled and supervised by Robert Smith
- Features a total of 24 tracks for the first time on CD
- For the first time the entire Entreat Plus live recording from Wembley 1989 with four previously unreleased performances
- Deluxe package contains a 24 page book including sleeve notes and lyrics with rare and previously unseen photographs
- The double gatefold vinyl release will be the re-mastered 12 track original album
- A re-mastered single CD release of the album will follow three months later
Promo Sampler:
A special Disintegration Deluxe Edition CD promo sampler containing nine tracks will be available. Tracklisting:
from CD2 'extras' (1988-1989)
01 PRAYERS FOR RAIN (RS HOME INSTRUMENTAL DEMO-04/88)
02 THE SAME DEEP WATER AS YOU (BAND INSTRUMENTAL DEMO-09/88)
03 DELIRIOUS NIGHT (ROUGH MIX-12/88)
from CD1 the album
04 PICTURES OF YOU
05 CLOSEDOWN
06 LOVESONG
from CD3 'entreat plus'
07 LULLABY (LIVE)
08 FASCINATION STREET (LIVE)
09 DISINTEGRATION (LIVE)
More re-mastered The Cure releases will follow in 2010, including Mixed Up, In Orange, Show & more.
Love the lullaby extra's cover!... actually all of the deluxe edition alternate covers have been mint!
pre-order is also available on play.com:
http://www.play.com/Music/CD/4-/13346175/Disintegration/Product.html (http://www.play.com/Music/CD/4-/13346175/Disintegration/Product.html)
a lot cheaper than on amazon - plus they ship for free.
Regarding to Amazon Germany the release date has been postponed to April :(.
Official News ;)
The Cure - Disintegration... THE PUFF...
Deluxe Edition - Polydor/Universal
Date : 24th May 2010
Three-Disc Deluxe Edition Produced & Compiled by Robert Smith, Including a Remastered Version of the Original Album, plus Unreleased Songs, Demos, Out-takes and Live Performances.
The Cures eighth studio album, released in 1989, is the dark tour de force Disintegration.
Following on from 1987's outstanding Kiss Me Kiss Me Kiss Me release, and spurred by the hits Lullaby, Fascination Street, Lovesong and Pictures Of You, the album quickly became the groups most successful yet, with sales topping more than 3 million, as the band sold out stadiums and arenas around the world.
Polydor/Universal reissues this landmark album, remastering the original, adding a disc of unreleased out-takes and demos, plus a third disc that contains a live performance of the entire album recorded in 1989 over 3 nights at Wembley Arena, London, the European climax of the The Cure's global Prayer Tour. This Deluxe Edition comes with a 20 page booklet containing previously unseen pictures and art, as well as lyrics and an in depth overview of the period by the band's founder Robert Smith.
Robert Smith compiled, produced, and supervised the mastering of this three-disc collection, which covers the evolution of Disintegration, from demos and rehearsals to studio and stage. The first disc contains newly remastered versions of the albums original 12 tracks.
Gathering 20 unreleased tracks, the second disc trawls through Smiths home recordings to find early instrumental demos of fan favourites Pictures Of You, Prayers For Rain and Fascination Street. The Cure can be heard rehearsing and arranging various instrumental versions, including Homesick, Closedown and The Same Deep Water As You, as well as playing studio out-takes of several other tracks, including Plainsong. The disc also contains four unreleased songs: Noheart, Esten, Delirious Night and a cover of Judy Collins Pirate Ships, the latter a solo performance by Smith that was recorded for, but ultimately not included on, Rubáiyát, a 1990 album celebrating Elektra Records 40th anniversary.
For the final disc, Smith remixes and expands Entreat, a live album recorded in 1989 at Wembley Arena. Entreat Plus combines the originals eight tracks, remixed with the four 'missing' songs to create a complete contemporary live version of Disintegration.
Comments Stuart Braithwaite of Mogwai: Disintegration by The Cure is one of the greatest records of all time. It has the feel that only a tiny amount of albums have, that it exists completely in its own universe, immune to context or fashion. I literally cannot imagine the band members in a room playing these songs for the first time, its as if they've always been there. From stunning opener Plainsong through to Untitled, it is unrelentingly beautiful and achingly sad. Disintegration is a simply wonderful record.
DISINTEGRATION: DELUXE EDITION
Disc One: Remastered Album
01: Plainsong
02: Pictures Of You
03: Closedown
04: Lovesong
05: Last Dance
06: Lullaby
07: Fascination Street
08: Prayers For Rain
09: The Same Deep Water As You
10: Disintegration
11: Homesick
12: Untitled
Disc Two: Rarities (1988 - 1989)
01: Prayers For Rain RS Home Demo (Instrumental)
02: Pictures Of You RS Home Demo (Instrumental)
03: Fascination Street RS Home Demo (Instrumental)
04: Homesick Band Rehearsal (Instrumental)
05: Fear Of Ghosts Band Rehearsal (Instrumental)
06: Noheart Band Rehearsal (Instrumental)*
07: Esten Band Demo (Instrumental)*
08: Closedown Band Demo (Instrumental)
09: Lovesong Band Demo (Instrumental)
10: 2 Late (alternate version) Band Demo (Instrumental)
11: The Same Deep Water As You Band Demo (Instrumental)
12: Disintegration Band Demo (Instrumental)
13: Untitled (alternate version) Studio Rough (Instrumental)
14: Babble (alternate version) Studio Rough (Instrumental)
15: Plainsong Studio Rough (Guide Vocal)
16: Last Dance Studio Rough (Guide Vocal)
17: Lullaby Studio Rough (Guide Vocal)
18: Out Of Mind Studio Rough (Guide Vocal)
19: Delirious Night Rough Mix (Vocal)*
20: Pirate Ships RS Solo, Rough Mix (Vocal)*
* Previously Unreleased Song
Disc Three: Entreat Plus
01: Plainsong*
02: Pictures Of You
03: Closedown
04: Lovesong*
05: Last Dance
06: Lullaby*
07: Fascination Street
08: Prayers For Rain
09: The Same Deep Water As You*
10: Disintegration
11: Homesick
12: Untitled
* Previously Unreleased Live Performance
http://www.thecure.com/default.aspx (http://www.thecure.com/default.aspx)
:smth060
From Myspace and Facebook >> Disintegration Advert
(http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a102/chinese1969/l_517aa9ba0d3a46c8afda00c1470fefae.png)
Wow - looks like a nicely refreshed version of the faded poster that I used to put above my HiFi rack.
Quote from: chinesewhispers on April 16, 2010, 16:59:30
From Myspace and Facebook >> Disintegration Advert
(http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a102/chinese1969/l_517aa9ba0d3a46c8afda00c1470fefae.png)
this is just the old advert for the original release of disintegration, not a new or refreshed one for the deluxe release.
it even says "mc" (= music cassette) there - i don't think there'll be an analogue cassette release for the digitally mastered re-release. ;)
it's a nice advert though. i always liked that poster.
Yeah, I know this is old, but the colours are a lot more saturated than on my poster (which, I have to admit, is probably rotting away in my basement).
Quote from: japanesebaby on April 16, 2010, 21:28:27
it even says "mc"
That's why I used to put it abouve my stereo - that had (and still has) all three components.
Quote from: Matti on April 16, 2010, 21:39:03
Yeah, I know this is old, but the colours are a lot more saturated than on my poster (which, I have to admit, is probably rotting away in my basement).
i see. i think your poster was faded because it was old. my is really faded too, it's from the 80s too. :) or it could have been that the print quality was inferior back then too.
this poster has been reprinted many times over the years, last time i looked you could buy new reprinted copies on ebay in mint condition. those had sharp bright colors as this one. so i think this one here is exactly similar to the old advert.
Wow, that promo brings back great memories, I remember the anticipation of the "LP" back in spring 89... no youtube etc then for unoficial previews. Got the first bus to Newcastle on the day of release and spent the rest of the day listening to it again and again! It's certainly my most played album, and can honestly say I listened to it at least once per day while doing my A-level courses. Never tire of it, a classic.
I've got the postcard of that promo pic on my bass amp, along with a simon photo from the Prayer Tour. Not that it make my bass playing any better like!!!
I know this is old poster of disintegration album ;)
Disintegration Deluxe Edition 2010
(http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a102/chinese1969/DisintegrationsetAmazon.jpg)
CD PROMO SAMPLER THE CURE FOR THE DISINTEGRATION REEDITION
9 TITTLES
PRAYERS FRO RAIN (UNRELEASE INSTRU HOME DEMO)
THE SAME DEEP WATER (BAND INSTRU DEMO 09/88)
DELIROUS NIGHT (ROUGH MIX 88)
PICTURES OF YOU
CLOSEDOWN
LOVESONG
LULLABY (LIVE)
FASCINATION (LIVE)
DISINTEGRATION (LIVE)
(http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a102/chinese1969/BrZKqB2kKGrHqQH-CQEu1u5gZyhBLze580I.jpg)
(http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a102/chinese1969/BrZKjwBmkKGrHqQH-EIEvDikgEq5BLze6PV.jpg)
Delirious Night Preview (thank you entreat71) :smth023
The Cure - Delirious Night, Disintegration Sessions (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3r5Q7i2v5A#)
Thanks for posting, looks and sounds very promising! :D
This is Amazon UK Disintegration Samples of CD Two :smth023 (IMO there is no sense to upload samples of CD One & Three)
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=7LGRJ67I (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=7LGRJ67I)
Thank you ... sounds amazing :P
An official website launched to promote Disintegration - THE HIT...
http://www.thecure.com/blog/default.aspx?nid=26268 (http://www.thecure.com/blog/default.aspx?nid=26268)
I wonder if anyone here could record these alternate rarities: http://www.thecuredisintegration.com/bin/#/altrarities/ (http://www.thecuredisintegration.com/bin/#/altrarities/)
It's up! The website to promote the Deluxe edition of Disintegration
http://www.thecuredisintegration.com (http://www.thecuredisintegration.com)
Very nice! :smth023
On may 24, The Cure will stream part of their concert at Dallas Starplex (15 september 1989)
http://www.thecuredisintegration.com/bin/#/dallas/ (http://www.thecuredisintegration.com/bin/#/dallas/)
:rocker
The website is so cool! :smth081 I am glad they put it up. :smth023 Thank you Robert!
Quote from: Whiskers on May 14, 2010, 00:39:21
I wonder if anyone here could record these alternate rarities: http://www.thecuredisintegration.com/bin/#/altrarities/ (http://www.thecuredisintegration.com/bin/#/altrarities/)
yeah that would be great dont know how or if it can be done :smth020
I think you might be able to find a download link (for these rarities, none of the officially released stuff) on chainofflowers site (haven't tried it yet):
http://craigjparker.blogspot.com/ (http://craigjparker.blogspot.com/)
Quote from: Ulrich on May 14, 2010, 13:30:46
I think you might be able to find a download link (for these rarities, none of the officially released stuff) on chainofflowers site (haven't tried it yet):
http://craigjparker.blogspot.com/ (http://craigjparker.blogspot.com/)
The rarities can be downloaded here
http://www.sendspace.com/file/adgm52 (http://www.sendspace.com/file/adgm52)
Note: These are NOT the tracks from the 3 CD set, but the tracks RS posted on the Disintegration website, and are not commercially available (thanks COF)
thanks for the tip Ulrich, im on it :smth023
Quote from: Lady on March 30, 2010, 11:36:15
:smth060
.... puuurfectly put!
I am looking forward to this release.. :smth020
Glad to see you around, Scatcat!
:D Thanks!
Quote from: dsanchez on May 14, 2010, 13:46:44
Quote from: Ulrich on May 14, 2010, 13:30:46
I think you might be able to find a download link (for these rarities, none of the officially released stuff) on chainofflowers site (haven't tried it yet):
http://craigjparker.blogspot.com/ (http://craigjparker.blogspot.com/)
The rarities can be downloaded here
http://www.sendspace.com/file/adgm52 (http://www.sendspace.com/file/adgm52)
Note: These are NOT the tracks from the 3 CD set, but the tracks RS posted on the Disintegration website, and are not commercially available (thanks COF)
Thank you very much!!!! :smth023 :smth020
Quote from: dsanchez on May 14, 2010, 13:46:44
Quote from: Ulrich on May 14, 2010, 13:30:46
I think you might be able to find a download link (for these rarities, none of the officially released stuff) on chainofflowers site (haven't tried it yet):
http://craigjparker.blogspot.com/ (http://craigjparker.blogspot.com/)
The rarities can be downloaded here
http://www.sendspace.com/file/adgm52 (http://www.sendspace.com/file/adgm52)
Note: These are NOT the tracks from the 3 CD set, but the tracks RS posted on the Disintegration website, and are not commercially available (thanks COF)
Thanks :smth023
Quote from: dsanchez on May 14, 2010, 13:46:44
Quote from: Ulrich on May 14, 2010, 13:30:46
I think you might be able to find a download link (for these rarities, none of the officially released stuff) on chainofflowers site (haven't tried it yet):
http://craigjparker.blogspot.com/ (http://craigjparker.blogspot.com/)
The rarities can be downloaded here
http://www.sendspace.com/file/adgm52 (http://www.sendspace.com/file/adgm52)
Note: These are NOT the tracks from the 3 CD set, but the tracks RS posted on the Disintegration website, and are not commercially available (thanks COF)
Wow!! :smth007 Thank you so much!!!! :D
Quote from: scatcat on May 14, 2010, 14:17:03
Quote from: Lady on March 30, 2010, 11:36:15
:smth060
.... puuurfectly put!
I am looking forward to this release.. :smth020
Hi scatcat!!! I'm happy to see you here again!! :smth023
Listen here to short fragments off the totally tracklist ;) off the 3CD Deluxe box :smth026
http://www.cosmox.be/muziek/disintegration-deluxe-the-cure-0600753245668 (http://www.cosmox.be/muziek/disintegration-deluxe-the-cure-0600753245668)
Or here
http://www.rhino.com/shop/product/the-cure-disintegration-deluxe-edition (http://www.rhino.com/shop/product/the-cure-disintegration-deluxe-edition)
Quote from: Trust... on May 17, 2010, 12:55:38
Listen here to short fragments off the totally tracklist ;) off the 3CD Deluxe box :smth026
http://www.cosmox.be/muziek/disintegration-deluxe-the-cure-0600753245668 (http://www.cosmox.be/muziek/disintegration-deluxe-the-cure-0600753245668)
I just have my doubts about the price :roll: how much should this box costs ? € 13,99 on Universal site and on the link above € 30,99
For the same box ??? :smth100
German amazon.de lists it for € 20,99 - which to me seems a reasonable price for a 3-CD box. :D
Quote from: Ulrich on May 17, 2010, 15:13:12
German amazon.de lists it for € 20,99 - which to me seems a reasonable price for a 3-CD box. :D
i agree that's completely ok compared to other cds. i just ordered my copy and i'm so freaking exited!!! it's my favorite album :smth041 :smth041 :smth041
Quote from: alwaysprayingforRAIN on May 17, 2010, 16:37:36
Quote from: Ulrich on May 17, 2010, 15:13:12
German amazon.de lists it for € 20,99 - which to me seems a reasonable price for a 3-CD box. :D
i agree that's completely ok compared to other cds. i just ordered my copy and i'm so freaking exited!!! it's my favorite album :smth041 :smth041 :smth041
I'm also agree, but still wonder why there is that big difference, maybe there are two different boxes :?
Quote from: Trust... on May 17, 2010, 17:11:49
I'm also agree, but still wonder why there is that big difference, maybe there are two different boxes :?
well we should know about it then, right ?? the one i ordered is the three disc version. maybe there is one with just the 'remastered' original disintegration . that'd be stupid though!
I listened to rarities last night and today...I simply love them!!!! :smth060
Quote from: alwaysprayingforRAIN on May 17, 2010, 17:14:53
Quote from: Trust... on May 17, 2010, 17:11:49
I'm also agree, but still wonder why there is that big difference, maybe there are two different boxes :?
well we should know about it then, right ?? the one i ordered is the three disc version. maybe there is one with just the 'remastered' original disintegration . that'd be stupid though!
Yeah normally we must know it :lol: but when I look now on the Universal site the price increased with € 3,00 since this afternoon :shock: I guess I wait until the end off the month and gonna buy my box on the old fashion way ;)
Quote from: Ulrich on May 17, 2010, 15:13:12
German amazon.de lists it for € 20,99 - which to me seems a reasonable price for a 3-CD box. :D
Quote from: Trust... on May 17, 2010, 22:44:28
Yeah normally we must know it :lol: but when I look now on the Universal site the price increased with € 3,00 since this afternoon :shock: I guess I wait until the end off the month and gonna buy my box on the old fashion way ;)
Trust, try play.com, they have the 3 cd version 15.49 e:
http://www.play.com/Music/CD/4-/13346175/Disintegration/Product.html (http://www.play.com/Music/CD/4-/13346175/Disintegration/Product.html)
free delivery to anywhere in the world. :smth023
@david: we should have this play.com link in the header instead of those amazon links (which only rip people off!). :!:
Quote from: japanesebaby on May 18, 2010, 16:33:34
@david: we should have this play.com link in the header instead of those amazon links (which only rip people off!). :!:
The links point to items of the Curefans.com store in Amazon. A small percentage goes to Curefans.com to cover hosting expensives (one day, because we didn't have collect that much). That's the reason of the links.
Of course anyone is free to buy anywhere :P
Quote from: japanesebaby on May 18, 2010, 16:33:34
Trust, try play.com, they have the 3 cd version 15.49 e:
http://www.play.com/Music/CD/4-/13346175/Disintegration/Product.html (http://www.play.com/Music/CD/4-/13346175/Disintegration/Product.html)
free delivery to anywhere in the world. :smth023
Yeah maybe ... I still don't know what I find the most exciting thing ... :lol:
Order it by post and find it in my mail or just go to a shop to see if they have it ;) Yeah I know silly me ;)
Quote from: Trust... on May 18, 2010, 20:43:34
Order it by post and find it in my mail or just go to a shop to see if they have it ;) Yeah I know silly me ;)
Nah, it's okay to support local stores (especially if they sell CURE things)...
Well I ordered from amazon.de anyway and it arrived today. :D
Now I just have to find time to listen to 3 CDs (plus the rarities on the net and the Dave allen interview etc. - you get the picture...)! :roll:
Quote from: Ulrich on May 21, 2010, 11:11:19
Quote from: Trust... on May 18, 2010, 20:43:34
Order it by post and find it in my mail or just go to a shop to see if they have it ;) Yeah I know silly me ;)
Nah, it's okay to support local stores (especially if they sell CURE things)...
Well I ordered from amazon.de anyway and it arrived today. :D
Now I just have to find time to listen to 3 CDs (plus the rarities on the net and the Dave allen interview etc. - you get the picture...)! :roll:
i wish my store would sell cure stuff, but i guess my town is too small and conservative for that....
mine arrived too and i looooooooove it!!! i'll just make time to listen to it, and we have 'Pfingsten' as well :D
Quote from: alwaysprayingforRAIN on May 21, 2010, 17:46:42
mine arrived too and i looooooooove it!!! i'll just make time to listen to it, and we have 'Pfingsten' as well :D
Yes, it's called "Pentacoste" in English, I think.
And I did find some time Fr/Sat as well to listen to many of the tracks!
Some really good interesting demos/rarities on there. :D
And "Disintegration", the album itself, sounded very good to my ears!
Still one day to go for us.... :roll: :smth049
Strangely, amazon.de now says they can deliver from June 16th (!!!!), no idea why, did they already sell all the ones they had ordered for May? :?
We have to wait 'till the next week....I can't believe it!!! :smth011
Quote from: Lady on May 26, 2010, 10:51:40
We have to wait 'till the next week....I can't believe it!!! :smth011
this is seriously unfair!!! i have no idea what's going on... maybe something went wrong with getting the cds to the stores, but that wouldn't explain weeks of delay...
Quote from: alwaysprayingforRAIN on May 26, 2010, 14:52:27
Quote from: Lady on May 26, 2010, 10:51:40
We have to wait 'till the next week....I can't believe it!!! :smth011
this is seriously unfair!!! i have no idea what's going on... maybe something went wrong with getting the cds to the stores, but that wouldn't explain weeks of delay...
:? sad news ... I didn't ordered by the net yet and was planned to go to the store this evening ... so I'm warned now ... I'll go with this in my mind to the store :roll:
my amazon still says june 11th - june 15th delivery estimate, which is what it's said all along. this is for vinyl though.
Things have changed again at amazon.de! Now it's "on stock" again. 2 five star reviews were written meanwhile too. :)
Am I the only one disappointed with this "remaster?" Sure, the second disc is great, but Disintegration has just been turned up a shit-ton. I swear I can even hear some clipping during the guitar solo of Love Song. Entreat Plus has also had the same treatment given: it sounds much tighter and not as open as the original.
You are absolutely right. Okay, I think the remaster of the album itself is okay (I just listened to it one time ...) but "Entreat Plus" is disappointing. About the second disc: Some tracks are alright but the "Guide Vocal" tracks and especially "Out Of Mind" ... me and some others here do have doubts about the recording year of the vocals. In the case of "Out Of Mind" it's definitely a resung from 2009. But there's already a posting here about that:
http://curefans.com/index.php/topic,5907.msg69625.html#new (http://curefans.com/index.php/topic,5907.msg69625.html#new)
Quote from: Whiskers on May 28, 2010, 05:16:43
Am I the only one disappointed with this "remaster?" Sure, the second disc is great, but Disintegration has just been turned up a shit-ton. I swear I can even hear some clipping during the guitar solo of Love Song. Entreat Plus has also had the same treatment given: it sounds much tighter and not as open as the original.
no, you're not the only one. then again, i have to say i am maybe not really disappointed because i was never expecting the remaster to be anything great. the original album sounds simply perfect - what's the point of starting to remaster that? especially when we live in the time when remastering always means "also boosting up the volume to make it sound worse".
well i have to say it's not volumeboosted as much as some other albums so it's not entirely terrible (although the cymbals are clipping and distorted sometimes). it's the overall mix that is worse than in the original.
btw the stupid thing is that in the album notes they've even kept the line: THIS MUSIC HAS BEEN MIXED TO BE PLAYED LOUD SO TURN IT UP.
hey sorry robert but that only applies to the original mix, not this new one! :!:
i was only really looking forward to the deluxe release because of the bonus disc. but now it turns out it's not entirely material form the disintegration era - like cure89 said above, see the link above.
i feel a bit cheated... :?
Hmmmm... I guess I'm just not nearly as disappointed as some of you. First, I really haven't heard any real flaws with the first disc of the original album. I even loaded the song Disintegration from both the remastered and original in Adobe Audition's multitrack, lowered the volume of the remaster to match the original, and toggled back and forth between them to hear the exact difference.
The most noticeable difference, which I had noticed before, is that the remaster has quite a bit more bass than the original. The kick drum especially has a lot more punch and impact to it, which is a plus to me. Other than that, the treble is a bit "smoother" in some areas, but it's not really a dramatic difference. Aside from that, no huge differences. On a crappy stereo system, I doubt one would hear much difference at all except that the remaster is louder.
As for the whole loudness thing, what I was most surprised by is that difference in dynamic range between the remaster and original is quite negligible. Although the original's volume is a bit "low", it really doesn't have much dynamic range for an album of its time (the waveform is rather flat, if you take a look at it). So even if the remaster is pushed a bit, volume-wise, it's honestly not that much different once the levels are matched.
I haven't heard any clipping yet, although I will admit I haven't listened to the whole first disc from beginning to end (I've listened to the new stuff more than anything). As for clipping on the guitar solo of Lovesong, I just don't hear it. I'm listening to this on a pretty nice system, and I usually notice stuff like this.
Onto the second disc... While it's a bit silly that Robert added a new vocal to at least one of the tracks, I'm not going to let this detract from my enjoyment of everything as a whole. After all, this is the most truly enjoyable "new" Cure stuff that I've heard during one setting in YEARS, and it's not often that I can get the feeling of re-discovering the Cure anymore (which is kind of priceless in terms of being a fan). Toss in the "alternative rarities" released on the official site, and well, it's really an insane amount of stuff that I'd never heard before (and that I genuinely like). And again, I'm just glad that Robert didn't decide to sing over most of the other stuff, like the alternate Babble version, which totally rocks in my opinion. Go Simon! :rocker
We also get to hear some shades of the Wish sound that was soon to come (Esten and 2 Late alternatve version), and this leads me to believe that the Wish remaster will have some great stuff too, even if it's not released until 2016 or so. :lol:
Also, there is virtually no volume compression at all on the rarities stuff. :!: Almost makes me wonder if a different person was working on this portion of the release...
As for disc three, the expanded Entreat, this is where I have the most issues. First, Boris' classic "thunder drums" from the original have become rather wimpy-sounding, much like Jason's drum sound. It just reaffirms my belief that Robert 1) hates Boris or 2) really knows nothing about drums and just got really lucky when hiring Boris in the first place. Other than that, the mixes are decent, even though Porl isn't nearly as loud (which is much more realistic in terms of the way the shows actually sounded). I just miss hearing his playing on the beginning of Disintegration so clearly, with all those wild harmonics and stuff.
Speaking of that song, it's interesting to note how they still mixed Robert's Bass VI intro from the first night in Wembley with the actual song from the second night, although the transition between these two parts is a bit smoother and more believable this time around. :oops:
Assuming the original 8 Entreat songs were the only ones mixed back in 1989/1990, I'm sure that everything had to be remixed to give it a consistent sound — but maybe Robert wasn't the best person to pick for that. At least the Bass VI still sounds good and isn't buried in the mix like it was in Trilogy. I was kind of convinced Robert would ruin that somehow. The vocals here are completely original too, and I applaud him for not trying to do any overdubs or other digital manipulation, as there are some obvious rough spots that were left alone.
But my other main complaint about the new Entreat is the volume compression, which is more extreme than on any other disc of the release. However, it's still not as extreme as most stuff released these days, so it's at least listenable. Also, just like the remastered album, the bass here has more punch. Then again, the original Entreat has a fair amount of that, so here the original really wins hands-down.
For the record, I think that Dallas '89 on the "alternative rarities" sounds better than the remastered Entreat, but that could change by the time it gets an official release of some kind. :?
Really though, I'm pretty happy about the "deluxe" Disintegration as a whole. Not sure I'll feel ever this way if and when The Cure release another studio album...
That's really a fine review. Thank you lostflower4!!!
Thanks Caley, it's nice to have at least some positive remarks on the set - nice contrast to the general "They've / he's f**ked up yet another release..." bitching attitude I sense.
Quote from: alwaysprayingforRAIN on May 21, 2010, 17:46:42
Quote from: Ulrich on May 21, 2010, 11:11:19
Quote from: Trust... on May 18, 2010, 20:43:34
Order it by post and find it in my mail or just go to a shop to see if they have it ;) Yeah I know silly me ;)
Nah, it's okay to support local stores (especially if they sell CURE things)...
Well I ordered from amazon.de anyway and it arrived today. :D
Now I just have to find time to listen to 3 CDs (plus the rarities on the net and the Dave allen interview etc. - you get the picture...)! :roll:
i wish my store would sell cure stuff, but i guess my town is too small and conservative for that....
mine arrived too and i looooooooove it!!! i'll just make time to listen to it, and we have 'Pfingsten' as well :D
I wish I could find the time to go to the store just around the corner :roll:
nice review. :smth023
Quote from: lostflower4 on May 28, 2010, 12:24:13Although the original's volume is a bit "low", it really doesn't have much dynamic range for an album of its time (the waveform is rather flat, if you take a look at it). So even if the remaster is pushed a bit, volume-wise, it's honestly not that much different once the levels are matched.
that's true. still, i would rather take a version without volume-boosting so that i could take the original hint and TURN IT UP. ;)
Quote from: lostflower4 on May 28, 2010, 12:24:13I'm listening to this on a pretty nice system
i know you are ;) so i take your word for it.
Quote from: lostflower4 on May 28, 2010, 12:24:13We also get to hear some shades of the Wish sound that was soon to come (Esten and 2 Late alternatve version),
i agree, those are good tracks. :smth023
Quote from: lostflower4 on May 28, 2010, 12:24:13
Almost makes me wonder if a different person was working on this portion of the release...
at least it's proof that it wasn't the same monkey that mastered 4:13!
Quote from: lostflower4 on May 28, 2010, 12:24:13
It just reaffirms my belief that Robert 1) hates Boris or 2) really knows nothing about drums and just got really lucky when hiring Boris in the first place.
sadly, one of those might be true - or maybe both? :?
it's true that porl's guitar parts weren't that high in the mix in the live shows, but i think that was really odd anyway. i'd rather hear more of him too.
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Quote from: Matti on May 28, 2010, 13:13:49nice contrast to the general "They've / he's f**ked up yet another release..." bitching attitude I sense.
i'm not bitching, just saying my impression. there's a difference there. and i never said they've f**ked up the
whole release, did i?
this is great... I LOVE DISINTEGRATION ... 3CD DELUXE EDITION... WOOOOOOOOOOO :-D :D :)
Quote from: japanesebaby on May 28, 2010, 17:30:10i'm not bitching, just saying my impression. there's a difference there. and i never said they've f**ked up the whole release, did i?
I didn't mean You or anyone else in particular, You're as free as anyone else to state Your opinion. I'm just a little annoyed about the negative attitudes that seem to spread ever since the remasters came along.
Just for reference on volume level, I put the remastered Fascination Street from the deluxe CD and the original version found on the 1989 CD into Audacity and took a screenshot (new on top, old on bottom): http://i48.tinypic.com/14tsbqa.jpg (http://i48.tinypic.com/14tsbqa.jpg)
Quote from: Whiskers on May 29, 2010, 00:23:10
Just for reference on volume level, I put the remastered Fascination Street from the deluxe CD and the original version found on the 1989 CD into Audacity and took a screenshot (new on top, old on bottom): http://i48.tinypic.com/14tsbqa.jpg (http://i48.tinypic.com/14tsbqa.jpg)
yes the volume is boosted but it's still not clipping throughout, just some isolated cymbal crashes and other sudden loud peaks are clipped. that is still not the same as digital distortion, nowhere near anything like for instance on 4:13. you could try looking at the waveform of that album for comparison.
you also might want to read what lostflower4 wrote a few posts back.
btw has anyone gotten the double vinyl yet? :?:
i wonder is it's worth buying or if it's just the cd version put on vinyl (like with 4:13).
also, if you take a whole song and look at the waveform for that, pretty much everything might look like it's clipping/distorted, just because the waveform is being squeezed to fit the whole song in the image.
Back in 1989, I bought the vinyl (did not own a cd player back then). So the first version of "Last Dance" I heard was the live version on the flipside of the POY single. Later I borrowed the CD from a friend and didn't like the version of LD much, sounded a bit "overproduced" to my ears (being used to the live version)! :shock:
In all, I didn't think the (old) Disintegration CD sounded very good compared to the vinyl. So I kept listening to my vinyl, later when I had a cd player I bought "Entreat" (1991) and listened to this a lot.
"Entreat Plus" admittedly sounds a little weak in comparison. :?
The complete 3CD Deluxe Edition for me is a good product. The album seems to sound a little better than the old CD version to me. (I'm not an expert though.)
It's great to listen to 'sketches' and demos, instrumental versions etc.! It's a bit of being able to understand how the album was done and finally completed. So as fan this is VERY interesting for me (even though I can see why some songs were not used). :D
Btw, I just read a review about a remastered Rolling Stones record, apparently they did add background singers and new vocals by Mick Jagger.
Seems like this is pretty "normal" these days. Not a very good idea in my opinion though. :roll:
Quote from: japanesebaby on May 29, 2010, 00:32:57
Quote from: Whiskers on May 29, 2010, 00:23:10
Just for reference on volume level, I put the remastered Fascination Street from the deluxe CD and the original version found on the 1989 CD into Audacity and took a screenshot (new on top, old on bottom): http://i48.tinypic.com/14tsbqa.jpg (http://i48.tinypic.com/14tsbqa.jpg)
yes the volume is boosted but it's still not clipping throughout, just some isolated cymbal crashes and other sudden loud peaks are clipped. that is still not the same as digital distortion, nowhere near anything like for instance on 4:13. you could try looking at the waveform of that album for comparison.
you also might want to read what lostflower4 wrote a few posts back.
Yeah, I mean... If you compare the peaks on those two waveforms, there's really not all that much difference. However, I will admit it looks kind of bad from the 3-5 minute mark. There's quite a lot going on by then, the way that song builds up layer by layer.
It could still be much worse, though. And as jb said, sometimes things will look worse until you zoom in on them a little bit more. But I can guarantee you that 4:13 would look pretty much like a solid rectangle if you took similar screenshots of songs from that. :smth011
Sure, if I was in charge of mastering this I would have done everything a bit quieter, because it's just the right thing to do, sound-wise. But with a lot of remasters, I find that it's often a compromise between keeping some of the original sound and pushing the loudness envelope — a choice that isn't usually given for brand new stuff, which is just crushed to death.
I think Join the Dots is somewhat overcompressed for the pre-1995 material, but not too bad. But after that, everything is just compressed like it was on the original releases (a lot).
So I would not be surprised if the treatment for a Wish remaster is decent, and then things go right back to the loudness war after that. :roll:
I've had the remaster for about a week now - I've listened to it about six times now; three times through headphones, and three times on the car stereo - and I just don't hear anything out of place (i.e., clipping) on the remaster of the album. Everything sounds warmer and clearer to me, and also I can "hear" the space between the instruments - which is really cool.
Honestly, I haven't had any issues with any of the remasters thus far, and I like the fact that I can listen to just about all of my Cure stuff now without having to really adjust volume settings or EQ's.
So I guess what I'm saying is that I think it sounds great. I'm looking forward to the Wish remaster, whenever we get it.
Quote from: lostflower4 on May 30, 2010, 14:11:51
I think Join the Dots is somewhat overcompressed for the pre-1995 material, but not too bad. But after that, everything is just compressed like it was on the original releases (a lot).
So I would not be surprised if the treatment for a Wish remaster is decent, and then things go right back to the loudness war after that. :roll:
this reminds me: i still haven't even opened my double vinyl of WMS, it's still in plastic. one of these days i will become curious enough to see if it's any worth opening or if it should have stayed in plastic so i could have sold it on ebay as 'mint'.
;)
Hi guys! It's my first post but I've lurked around here for a while now.
The only real disappointment is the Entreat Plus mix, but as far as the other discs go they aren't too bad sound-wise. I think Disintegration has really benefited from remastering, just to get some of that haze and murkiness gone which plagues the original CD. I agree with another poster in that the remaster sounds a bit "warmer." The remastered album isn't too louder IMO and it's still enjoyable. Compared to the LOUD and fatiguing sound on 4:13 Dream, Disintegration's remastering is a masterpiece! :smth023
Quote from: thehungrierghost on August 20, 2010, 01:06:22
Hi guys! It's my first post but I've lurked around here for a while now.
The only real disappointment is the Entreat Plus mix, but as far as the other discs go they aren't too bad sound-wise. I think Disintegration has really benefited from remastering, just to get some of that haze and murkiness gone which plagues the original CD. I agree with another poster in that the remaster sounds a bit "warmer." The remastered album isn't too louder IMO and it's still enjoyable. Compared to the LOUD and fatiguing sound on 4:13 Dream, Disintegration's remastering is a masterpiece! :smth023
Hi thehungrierghost.
I've heard several folks complain like you have about the remastering of Entreat Plus.
What exactly did you think needed improving? I thought the entire Entreat Plus sounded pretty good. Of course, my opinion was seriously influenced by getting to hear those four missing songs!
I think I prefer the Dallas show which was streamed just before the release of Disintegration 3cd, but that's just because it's another soundboard Disintegration show which sounds different than the one I'd been listening to for the last two decades ;)
Quote from: scottm on September 05, 2010, 10:06:47
I've heard several folks complain like you have about the remastering of Entreat Plus.
What exactly did you think needed improving? I thought the entire Entreat Plus sounded pretty good. Of course, my opinion was seriously influenced by getting to hear those four missing songs!
Hi Scott,
I didn't listen the remastered Entreat so I can't give an opinion, but you should take a look to this post (http://curefans.com/albums-and-songs/why-robert-resung-many-of-the/msg70695/?topicseen#msg70695) where Adlib point out some aspects of this remaster :smth023
Quote from: scottm on September 05, 2010, 10:06:47I've heard several folks complain like you have about the remastering of Entreat Plus.
What exactly did you think needed improving? I thought the entire Entreat Plus sounded pretty good. Of course, my opinion was seriously influenced by getting to hear those four missing songs!
The thing that stands out the most is that Boris' drums are much lower in the mix and much duller sounding (with no effects, which is NOT what he sounded like that tour). Also, Porl's guitar is lower in the mix... I'll give that a pass as his levels were exaggerated on the original Entreat compared to the way the tour sounded. And well, the vocals, keyboards, etc. all have differences — albeit more subtle.
But yes, I think that the mixing/mastering on the Dallas '89 is a bit better, although still not completely representative of way the show originally sounded.
i still need to purchase this...
:roll:
Quote from: dsanchez on September 05, 2010, 11:32:02
Quote from: scottm on September 05, 2010, 10:06:47
I've heard several folks complain like you have about the remastering of Entreat Plus.
What exactly did you think needed improving? I thought the entire Entreat Plus sounded pretty good. Of course, my opinion was seriously influenced by getting to hear those four missing songs!
Hi Scott,
I didn't listen the remastered Entreat so I can't give an opinion, but you should take a look to this post (http://curefans.com/albums-and-songs/why-robert-resung-many-of-the/msg70695/?topicseen#msg70695) where Adlib point out some aspects of this remaster :smth023
Thanks David.
It seems most folks are complaining about at least the drums but this is the first complaint I heard of keyboards being out of sync with the rest of the music. Now I have to give it a listen...
And wow, this is the first time I came across discussion of "resung" songs on the remasters. I always thought it was strange that a full set of Blue Sunshine tunes were lying around with Robert doing the main vocals. But my ears were never sharp enough to actually detect that the vocals were recently resung. Now I have to go through all the songs listed in that thread to see what it sounds like.
Arggh! A fan's work is never done! :D
Your site rocks David.
Quote from: lostflower4 on September 05, 2010, 12:02:09
Quote from: scottm on September 05, 2010, 10:06:47I've heard several folks complain like you have about the remastering of Entreat Plus.
What exactly did you think needed improving? I thought the entire Entreat Plus sounded pretty good. Of course, my opinion was seriously influenced by getting to hear those four missing songs!
The thing that stands out the most is that Boris' drums are much lower in the mix and much duller sounding (with no effects, which is NOT what he sounded like that tour). Also, Porl's guitar is lower in the mix... I'll give that a pass as his levels were exaggerated on the original Entreat compared to the way the tour sounded. And well, the vocals, keyboards, etc. all have differences — albeit more subtle.
But yes, I think that the mixing/mastering on the Dallas '89 is a bit better, although still not completely representative of way the show originally sounded.
Thanks for your comments lostflower4.
Tomorrow I'll listen to the original and remastered Entreat to see if I can also pick out the differences you mentioned.
I usually like heavy remasters. For example, when Genesis put out 2007 remasters of their collection, they occasionally even used new vocal tracks altogether. (Unlikely to be resung because Phil's voice can't reach those high notes any more).
But I consider them alternate versions of the songs, not replacements. I think for the Cure remasters, I've been considering them replacements.