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Title: Robert on new album and upcoming concerts
Post by: dsanchez on March 31, 2014, 10:08:22
Robert gave an interview to XMF radio. Below are the key points:

- The band might be back on stage in late September.

- The new album might be released in summer.

- The new album would be released in Fiction and "it's an album that is really different to anything else the band has done before"

Please notice I am writing 'might' because as Robert said of himself "I'm very bad at planning long term"

For the full interview check this: http://www.xfm.co.uk/artists/cure/news/robert-smith-urge-beat-people-head-new-material/ (http://www.xfm.co.uk/artists/cure/news/robert-smith-urge-beat-people-head-new-material/)
Title: Re: Robert on new album and upcoming concerts
Post by: revolt_again on March 31, 2014, 10:52:13
Quote from: dsanchez on March 31, 2014, 10:08:22
Robert gave an interview to XMF radio. Below are the key points:

- The band might be back on stage in late September.

- The new album might be released in summer.

- The new album would be released in Fiction and "it's an album that is really different to anything else the band has done before"

Please notice I am writing 'might' because as Robert said of himself "I'm very bad at planning long term"

For the full interview check this: http://www.xfm.co.uk/artists/cure/news/robert-smith-urge-beat-people-head-new-material/ (http://www.xfm.co.uk/artists/cure/news/robert-smith-urge-beat-people-head-new-material/)


Well, in this case I think that 'might is right'. Meaning: I wouldn't be surprised if Robert still changed his mind one more time and decided to record a new album with the new line-up before '4:14 Dream' sees the light of day...
Title: Re: Robert on new album and upcoming concerts
Post by: MeltingMan on March 31, 2014, 21:10:05
Quote from: revolt_again on March 31, 2014, 10:52:13
Quote from: dsanchez on March 31, 2014, 10:08:22
Robert gave an interview to XMF radio. Below are the key points:

- The band might be back on stage in late September.

- The new album might be released in summer.

- The new album would be released in Fiction and "it's an album that is really different to anything else the band has done before"

Please notice I am writing 'might' because as Robert said of himself "I'm very bad at planning long term"

For the full interview check this: http://www.xfm.co.uk/artists/cure/news/robert-smith-urge-beat-people-head-new-material/ (http://www.xfm.co.uk/artists/cure/news/robert-smith-urge-beat-people-head-new-material/)


Well, in this case I think that 'might is right'. Meaning: I wouldn't be surprised if Robert still changed his mind one more time and decided to record a new album with the new line-up before '4:14 Dream' sees the light of day...
Right.It's all so improbable,although surprises are not impossible this year.Just instinct.
Title: Re: Robert on new album and upcoming concerts
Post by: dsanchez on April 01, 2014, 07:40:39
Robert's clarification on thecure.com:

http://www.thecure.com/news/1935/as_clearly_and_succinctly_as_i_can (http://www.thecure.com/news/1935/as_clearly_and_succinctly_as_i_can)

QuoteAS CLEARLY AND SUCCINCTLY AS I CAN...

"Having said all that, I have no idea... I really don't. I'm really bad at planning long-term stuff."*

I HAVE LITTLE DESIRE TO BE DRAWN
AND LITTLE CONVICTION IT REALLY MATTERS THAT MUCH...
BUT ON THE BACK OF THE WEARY AND EVER MORE NEGATIVE INTERPRETATIONS OF MY SHORT POST SATURDAY RAH SHOW CHAT WITH XFM
I WILL TRY TO EXPLAIN A VERY SIMPLE CHAIN OF EVENTS AS CLEARLY AND SUCCINCTLY AS I CAN, GIVEN A NUMBER OF GENUINE CONSTRAINTS...

LIKE NOT WANTING TO NAME TOO MANY NAMES OR POINT TOO MANY FINGERS


IN 2007 THE CURE (ME, SIMON, JASON AND PORL THOMPSON) REHEARSED AND RECORDED 33 SONGS WITH THE INTENTION OF CREATING A DOUBLE CD ALBUM CONTAINING APPROXIMATELY 2 HOURS OF MUSIC:

13 SONGS ON EACH DISC, MOST WITH WORDS AND VOCALS, BUT A FEW WITH WORDS AND NO VOCALS (IE. 'INSTRUMENTALS WITH WORDS'...!) - THE RUNNING ORDER WAS FLUID, AS I WAS CONSTANTLY REARRANGING THE ORDER IN WHICH THE 33 A4 'MASTER SHEETS' WERE STUCK ON THE WALL OF THE CONTROL ROOM... CHOICE CHANGED DEPENDING ON THE PROGRESS OF THE RECORDING...

WE PLANNED TO RELEASE 4 OF THE ALBUM SONGS AS 'SINGLES', PLUS 4 'B-SIDES'...
LEAVING A 'MARGIN OF ERROR' (SHOULD WE NEED IT) OF 3 SONGS...

HOWEVER, TOWARDS THE END OF THE PROJECT, I RAN OUT OF THE ENERGY AND CONVICTION I NEEDED TO RESIST A GROWING COMMERCIAL (AND TEMPORAL) PRESSURE FROM INDIVIDUALS AND RELEASE STRUCTURES I WAS OBLIGED TO WORK WITH, AND (TO MY DISCREDIT?!!) ABANDONED THE DOUBLE ALBUM/INSTRUMENTALS PLAN...

INSTEAD I COMPILED '4:13 DREAM' (13 SONGS WITH WORDS AND VOCALS), AND IT WAS THIS SINGLE CD ALBUM, ALONG WITH THE 4 OTHER 'B-SIDE' SONGS ACCOMPANYING THE 4 (REMIXED) SINGLES, THAT WAS RELEASED IN 2008

COMPILING A SINGLE CD ALBUM REQUIRED A DIFFERENT APPROACH (FOR ONE THING THERE WAS NO LONGER THE TIME TO 'SPREAD OUT' AND CONNECT THE DIFFERENT MOODS AS I HAD ORIGINALLY INTENDED... )
AND AS A CONSEQUENCE A NUMBER OF (MY FAVOURITE!) SLOWER SONGS AND INSTRUMENTAL PIECES WERE LEFT UNFINISHED AND UNRELEASED

"AS CLEARLY AND SUCCINCTLY AS I CAN": I THINK '4:13 DREAM' IS AN EXCELLENT CURE ALBUM, AND ALL THE B-SIDES ARE FAB... BUT THE CULMINATION OF THE PROJECT WASNT QUITE WHAT IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN, AS 16 OF THE ORIGINAL 33 SONGS WERE 'LEFT ON THE SHELF'...

IN 2009 PORL THOMPSON LEFT THE BAND
AND THAT VERSION OF THE CURE WAS OVER
FOR GOOD
AND LIFE CARRIED ON...
IN 2010 THE CURE HAD 'A YEAR AWAY'
IN 2011 ROGER O'DONNELL REJOINED THE BAND AND THE CURE PLAYED AROUND THE WORLD...
AND ENOUGH TIME HAD PASSED...
AND I GOT THE URGE TO REVISIT OUR 'LIVE IN PARIS 2008' FILM TO SEE HOW FAR WE HAD GOT WITH IT...
AND FOR THE FIRST TIME IN 3 YEARS LISTENED TO THE UNRELEASED '4:13 DREAM' SESSION SONGS...
AND I FOUND I STILL LIKED THEM... ALBEIT I WASN'T SURE ABOUT SOME OF THE LYRICS...

...SO I STARTED WRITING NEW WORDS FOR THE INSTRUMENTAL SONGS
AND I STARTED SINGING THEM
AND RESINGING OTHERS
AND I BEGAN THINKING OF WAYS TO FINISH OFF THE PROJECT TO MY SATISFACTION

AND LIFE CARRIED ON...

IN 2012 REEVES GABRELS JOINED THE BAND AND THE CURE PLAYED AROUND THE WORLD...
AND (MAINLY BECAUSE OF THIS 'PLAYING AROUND THE WORLD' AND 'LIFE CARRYING ON' STUFF) OTHER UNFINISHED PROJECTS STARTED MOUNTING UP...
IN 2013 THE CURE CONTINUED PLAYING SHOWS AROUND THE WORLD...
AND THE PERFORMANCES GOT BETTER AND BETTER...
AND LIFE...


IN 2014 THE CURE CONTINUE(D) PLAYING SHOWS AROUND THE WORLD...

AND MY PLAN THIS SUNNY SPRING MONDAY AT THE END OF MARCH IS TO GET TO THE POINT IN THE NEXT MONTH OR THREE WHERE WE CAN RELEASE:

1)
A LTD EDITION '4:26 DREAM' DOUBLE CD ALBUM OF 26 SONGS (ALL REMIXED) - IE. 'THE ORIGINAL 4:13 DREAM SESSIONS CONCEPT ALBUM' (INCLUDING THE 'INSTRUMENTALS WITH WORDS') - OF WHICH 10 TRACKS OR MORE WILL BE PREVIOUSLY UNRELEASED...

2)
A LTD EDITION '4:14 SCREAM' SINGLE CD ALBUM OF 14 PREVIOUSLY UNRELEASED SONGS - ALBEIT SOME OF THEM MAY ALSO BE ON '4:26 DREAM'... BUT THESE '4:14 SCREAM' VERSIONS WILL ALL HAVE WORDS AND VOCALS...


"AS CLEARLY AND SUCCINCTLY AS I CAN"?!!:
ITS MAYBE STILL A BIT TRICKY TO EXPLAIN WITHOUT TITLES AND LYRICS AND...
MUSIC!!!
BUT...
OF THE ORIGINAL 33 SONGS RECORDED IN 2008
32 WILL GET RELEASED
(THERE'S ALWAYS ONE...!)
AND I WILL BE OVERCOME WITH AN IRRESISTIBLE URGE** TO FINISH SOME (ALL?!!) OF THE OTHER OUTSTANDING CURE PROJECTS
LIKE 'LIVE IN PARIS 2008' AND 'REFLECTIONS 2011' AND 'SUMMERCURE 2012' AND 'LATAM 2013' (AND 'RAH TCT 2014'?!!)

...AND CREATE SOME NEW NEW MUSIC WITH THIS CURRENT CURE LINEUP...


"Down, down, deeper and down... "
HA!
AND ONWARDS
RSX



PS
"AS CLEARLY AND SUCCINCTLY AS I CAN":
I STILL PREFER PHYSICAL RELEASES TO VIRTUAL... gulp!

PPS
*"Having said all that, I have no idea... I really don't. I'm really bad at planning long-term stuff." - ME, AT THE WEEKEND...
**"TRUE ART IS CHARACTERISED BY AN IRRESISTIBLE URGE IN THE CREATIVE ARTIST"... EINSTEIN, SOMETIME EARLIER!!!
Title: Re: Robert on new album and upcoming concerts
Post by: mooki on April 01, 2014, 10:21:37
He's quite a bit insane isn't he? Regardless, wow, love the plans. The 4:26 Scream (NICE!!) was a wonderful surprise. Seriously. That's awesome. I wonder how limited limited means to them?
Still, I'd love to purchase both copies. I think that's a wonderful idea to release 4:26 scream. Remixed songs from 4:13 and new songs... and apparently new-NEW songs for 4:14? Different versions of the unreleased songs?

Christ, that's actually a little confusing. Albeit I have no clue what the 'vocal and words' parts are all about. I guess we'll find out! And great news about the Reflections. I think he got a great kick of excitement from playing the shows that he was basically like "Lets do it now then".

Although the timing is April 1st... this news sounds great
Title: Re: Robert on new album and upcoming concerts
Post by: revolt_again on April 01, 2014, 10:21:50
Quote from: dsanchez on April 01, 2014, 07:40:39

PS
"AS CLEARLY AND SUCCINCTLY AS I CAN":
I STILL PREFER PHYSICAL RELEASES TO VIRTUAL... gulp!

Robert may be a little confused, but I think his heart is still in the right place...  :)
Title: Re: Robert on new album and upcoming concerts
Post by: Ulrich on April 01, 2014, 12:40:03
Well, Robert is more concrete now with his plans. (Especially if he already talked with Fiction about a release?)

Quote1)
A LTD EDITION '4:26 DREAM' DOUBLE CD ALBUM OF 26 SONGS (ALL REMIXED) - IE. 'THE ORIGINAL 4:13 DREAM SESSIONS CONCEPT ALBUM' (INCLUDING THE 'INSTRUMENTALS WITH WORDS') - OF WHICH 10 TRACKS OR MORE WILL BE PREVIOUSLY UNRELEASED...

2)
A LTD EDITION '4:14 SCREAM' SINGLE CD ALBUM OF 14 PREVIOUSLY UNRELEASED SONGS - ALBEIT SOME OF THEM MAY ALSO BE ON '4:26 DREAM'... BUT THESE '4:14 SCREAM' VERSIONS WILL ALL HAVE WORDS AND VOCALS...

AND I WILL BE OVERCOME WITH AN IRRESISTIBLE URGE** TO FINISH SOME (ALL?!!) OF THE OTHER OUTSTANDING CURE PROJECTS
LIKE 'LIVE IN PARIS 2008' AND 'REFLECTIONS 2011' AND 'SUMMERCURE 2012' AND 'LATAM 2013' (AND 'RAH TCT 2014'?!!)

...AND CREATE SOME NEW NEW MUSIC WITH THIS CURRENT CURE LINEUP...

This is all sounding very "hopeful" for us fans. But I have my doubts we will see 3 or more Live DVDs! That would seem a bit much at once and difficult to sell to the "occasional" fan.
I hope LatAm will make it out, with Tim Pope working on it, this should be good!  :)
Title: Re: Robert on new album and upcoming concerts
Post by: need_stilts on April 16, 2014, 00:33:33
The new album will kick a$$!  :smth023
Title: Re: Robert on new album and upcoming concerts
Post by: need_stilts on April 16, 2014, 06:03:26
Alex I hope that's not a tattoo where your mustache is supposed to be.   :o
Title: Re: Robert on new album and upcoming concerts
Post by: Ulrich on April 16, 2014, 10:21:12
What's it with the spamming and trolling currently?  :roll:  :evil:
Title: Re: Robert on new album and upcoming concerts
Post by: dsanchez on April 16, 2014, 11:12:03
Should be OK with the spammers now, they're a plague. As for the trolls, they're easy to identify, and thus, easy to ban :twisted:
Title: Re: Robert on new album and upcoming concerts
Post by: MeltingMan on April 16, 2014, 13:52:13
Quote from: mooki on April 01, 2014, 10:21:37
He's quite a bit insane isn't he? Regardless, wow, love the plans. The 4:26 Scream (NICE!!) was a wonderful surprise. Seriously. That's awesome. I wonder how limited limited means to them?
Still, I'd love to purchase both copies. I think that's a wonderful idea to release 4:26 scream. Remixed songs from 4:13 and new songs... and apparently new-NEW songs for 4:14? Different versions of the unreleased songs?

Christ, that's actually a little confusing. Albeit I have no clue what the 'vocal and words' parts are all about. I guess we'll find out! And great news about the Reflections. I think he got a great kick of excitement from playing the shows that he was basically like "Lets do it now then".


Although the timing is April 1st... this news sounds great
Right.Hopefully not only an April joke. :?
Title: Re: Robert on new album and upcoming concerts
Post by: Borl Poris on April 18, 2014, 22:41:16
I would be happy is Robert just released the audio of the Reflections gigs, to have All Cats Are Grey, Splintered I her Head in sounboard quality, I would be over the moon. Also, it would be cool if he put up soundboard recordings of 2 Late from TCT and Burn from the voodoo festival
Title: Re: Robert on new album and upcoming concerts
Post by: Ulrich on April 19, 2014, 10:10:34
It looks like "LatAm 13" live DVD is going to happen:

http://craigjparker.blogspot.it/2014/04/tim-pope-on-radio-soho-this-tuesday.html (http://craigjparker.blogspot.it/2014/04/tim-pope-on-radio-soho-this-tuesday.html)

QuoteTim assures us that he has it on the HIGHEST authority, that the LatAm film will be put together. It will actually happen. "It will be put together, so please stop asking me about it". :)
Title: Re: Robert on new album and upcoming concerts
Post by: dsanchez on April 19, 2014, 11:34:03
Quote from: Ulrich on April 19, 2014, 10:10:34
It looks like "LatAm 13" live DVD is going to happen

Nothing new on this. The question is: WHEN this is going to happen? :roll:
Title: Re: Robert on new album and upcoming concerts
Post by: Ulrich on April 19, 2014, 15:06:45
Quote from: dsanchez on April 19, 2014, 11:34:03
Nothing new on this.

To me it seemed "new" that Tim Pope kinda confirmed it will happen. Up to now he'd always said he'd been working on it but didn't know if the band want to release it (or something along these lines).
To me, it's good news that he mentions "HIGHEST authority" (probably RS) and "it will be put together".
Title: Re: Robert on new album and upcoming concerts
Post by: dsanchez on April 19, 2014, 15:26:52
Quote from: Ulrich on April 19, 2014, 15:06:45
To me it seemed "new" that Tim Pope kinda confirmed it will happen. Up to now he'd always said he'd been working on it but didn't know if the band want to release it (or something along these lines).
To me, it's good news that he mentions "HIGHEST authority" (probably RS) and "it will be put together".
he went with the band to film the LatAm2013 with the intention to release a film. i think this was always clear:

http://curefans.com/curenews/tim-pope-'i-am-going-with-the-cure-for-their-latin-american-2013-tour'/ (http://curefans.com/curenews/tim-pope-'i-am-going-with-the-cure-for-their-latin-american-2013-tour'/)

however, the question we all fans makeremains unanswered: WHEN this will be released? it would be nice if Mr. Pope told something about this at the radio.

i would say at least 2015, considering nothing of the 'Reflections' show was released yet.
Title: Re: Robert on new album and upcoming concerts
Post by: Ulrich on April 19, 2014, 16:56:37
Quote from: dsanchez on April 19, 2014, 15:26:52
he went with the band to film the LatAm2013 with the intention to release a film.

Yeah i know, but a few months ago all he had to tell was "no news on The Cure":
http://curefans.com/curenews/latam2013-dvd-news/ (http://curefans.com/curenews/latam2013-dvd-news/)

...which to me sounded like it was uncertain if the whole project was ever going to be finished.

Now he talks of "highest authority" and "will be put together", which to me sounds like he has news on The Cure and has received "green light" from RS.

Quote from: dsanchez on April 19, 2014, 15:26:52
however, the question we all fans makeremains unanswered: WHEN this will be released?

When it's ready, I guess...
Title: Re: Robert on new album and upcoming concerts
Post by: dsanchez on April 19, 2014, 20:14:30
Quote from: Ulrich on April 19, 2014, 16:56:37
Now he talks of "highest authority" and "will be put together", which to me sounds like he has news on The Cure and has received "green light" from RS.

IMO this "news" does not add much to what we knew already. I think we're just like at the beginning, as we all knew/know there were plans for a DVD release of the LatAm2013, but this "new" information says no much about the date of release (end of this year, next year, etc.) which is what matters. I really hate this about The Cure :P It would be better id they don't say anything until something is done. We all are still waiting for years for the In Orange DVD, the Paris 2008 DVD, the Reflections DVD, etc etc... :roll:
Title: Re: Robert on new album and upcoming concerts
Post by: SusannaRS on April 19, 2014, 23:18:11
All of us are impatient for the live DVD bur you know Robert is a perfectionist!!! We should still wait...
It has always been like that