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New member? Introduce yourself here! / Re: Cure collaborators
« Last post by Ulrich on May 29, 2017, 14:47:54 »
... I have a very distinct memory of a man known as Jerezmy playing on songs back in The Top or Japanese Whispers time. For years my memory was that he played on Lovecats.

Can't remember hearing that name ever in connection with The Cure. (I did read e.g. the books "10 Imaginary Years" and Jeff Apter's "Never Enough", not mentioned in there.)

Norman Fisher Jones helped out on bass in 1984 (probably because Phil Thornalley was off working as an engineer/producer).
http://www.cure-concerts.de/concerts/1984-01-30.php

Derek Thompson also helped out for the "Oxford Road Show":
http://www.cure-concerts.de/fm-tv/ft_1983-03-18.php

You probably checked out "wikipedia" and other sources. If anything was known about other players, I guess someone would've complained or changed it?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_the_Cure_band_members#Guest_musicians

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Love_Cats_(song)
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News from reliable sources / Re: Robert on Jason Cooper
« Last post by tzare on May 29, 2017, 12:51:56 »
Boris left more space/air/musical gaps in his drum compositions (yes, they were well-thought compositions as Modern Drummer magazine correctly identified) so the other guys could do their thing. The drums and percussions had their own presence, an ORDER and place in The Cure.
Jason's drumming is just a time-keeping kind of playing, messy most of the time. They have nothing special as i.e. the drum patterns in If only tonight we could sleep, Last Dance, Sinking, High, All cats are grey (Lol Tolhurst on drums)...

And the drummer DOES make a difference. Do you know that Just like heaven, in it's initial phase- was slow and very different? but Boris speed it up and did that simple but powerful intro and fill that made Robert to make adjustments and INSPIRED him to come up with their most popular song up to date.

So, a drummer with a solid idea of what to do, CAN make a difference and INSPIRE the other members of the band.

I found this article, which i find quite spot on:

http://oneweekoneband.tumblr.com/post/26946358500/drums-jason-cooper

As i said, my opinion, from someone that just likes the cure and not an expert (if that really exists in such a subjective matter) , is that Boris may be a better drummer,or more creative, or maybe has had the chance to influence Robert much more -or Robert allowed it , at least reading some interviews, including a recent one from Lol talking about the KMx3 era, the band had more inputs and influences from all the members,  instead of just being mainly Robert and then the rest- but that does not mean Jason is a bad drummer.
At all.

In fact after listening to the latest albums with similar attention i did with the others when those were released, i can now confirm that are very are good, and underrated. There are a lot of fantastic songs ,and also the drums are great too, the only think is kinda off is the mixing, the sound isn't as clear as in previous albums when you could 'isolate' the instruments somehow.

 And while i still think KMx3 is the best album of the band, Boris era, each studio album is quite different from the others and, Robert has had different personal situations that may have inspired in one way or another so maybe he did not allow Jason (and the others) to have much influence in the latest ones.Who knows.

And live... they sound great. So no complains. As i won't complain about Gabrels despite i  think Porl was better... or maybe he wasn't and i am just biased too. I mean, the band is what they are now. And hopefully we may have a new album and a new tour, probably the last. So enjoy!
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New member? Introduce yourself here! / Cure collaborators
« Last post by Chapel.irl on May 27, 2017, 20:02:53 »
Need your help, you marvellous lot.
In the 80s, I had quite the need to learn everything about The Cure and own everything they released. I have a very distinct memory of a man known as Jerezmy playing on songs back in The Top or Japanese Whispers time. For years my memory was that he played on Lovecats. But I can find no reference to this name online.
Please help me prove I'm not going senile. Can anyone please place that name?
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Albums and songs / Re: Catch (song & video)
« Last post by Ulrich on May 26, 2017, 18:36:49 »
I already linked this article elsewhere in this forum, but here is the part that deals with "Catch":

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...following 'The Kiss' with 'Catch' is almost the perfect definition of a 180 turn, and again, if the idea was to project confidence in the band doing whatever the heck it wanted to, the group nailed it. Unsurprisingly a single, one of the album’s four, and less than half as short as 'The Kiss' was, 'Catch' seemingly exists as a perfect fillip, light and breezy sounding, Smith in regret and reflection mode rather than rage. Williams’s drumming, his skilled and just-so intros now a firm part of what the band could do, kicks it off and sets a gentle tone, and from there it’s also sweet sorrow in the gentle sway of the singing, the bursts of acoustic guitar here and there, the violin keyboard part. Tim Pope’s video for the song so excellently captures the feeling of the song, the idea of something delicate and sun-kissed playing while wandering the Mediterranean coast of France.
http://thequietus.com/articles/22262-the-cure-kiss-me-kiss-me-kiss-me-review-anniversary
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News from reliable sources / Re: Robert on Jason Cooper
« Last post by patitodark on May 26, 2017, 17:17:13 »
I do not think it is due to the drummer, but just the music. After Wish the albums are different, not necessarily worse, but each album before WIsh had its own unique personality, that is why i find so difficult to choose one over another, because Faith has nothing to do with Kiss Me or Disintegration or The top. However from Bloodfowers and on, all albums sound kinda 'samey', not as inspired, maybe. I don't think that Jason is the cause, but more of a victim of the sound that Robert is pursuing with the last records.

Boris left more space/air/musical gaps in his drum compositions (yes, they were well-thought compositions as Modern Drummer magazine correctly identified) so the other guys could do their thing. The drums and percussions had their own presence, an ORDER and place in The Cure.
Jason's drumming is just a time-keeping kind of playing, messy most of the time. They have nothing special as i.e. the drum patterns in If only tonight we could sleep, Last Dance, Sinking, High, All cats are grey (Lol Tolhurst on drums)...

And the drummer DOES make a difference. Do you know that Just like heaven, in it's initial phase- was slow and very different? but Boris speed it up and did that simple but powerful intro and fill that made Robert to make adjustments and INSPIRED him to come up with their most popular song up to date.

So, a drummer with a solid idea of what to do, CAN make a difference and INSPIRE the other members of the band.
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Buy/Sell / Re: pornography Cure t-shirt for sale XL
« Last post by MilleHutch on May 24, 2017, 16:12:26 »
If this is for sale, I would like to buy it.
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Cure things / Re: Article about the band's sound system
« Last post by Ulrich on May 23, 2017, 10:00:17 »
Another article about the "technical side" of a Cure tour:
http://www.etnow.com/news/2017/4/prg-xl-video-supply-lighting-and-video-for-the-cure-world-tour

A few quotes:
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Mac explained the creative process behind bringing the production to life, and how they dazzled the expectations of die-hard Cure fans: “It’s important to note that Robert Smith was very hands-on with the design for the show; he’s been as much a member of our creative team as he has a band member. When Robert and I first discussed the design, we wanted a very simple look, where the set is the lighting rig and it’s a very clean, uncluttered stage. We started off with the idea for a curved screen at the back of the stage, added a curved riser and pulled the ends of the truss back to extenuate the curved look. The different lighting looks we used was kept simple, but precise and well-executed, for happy songs we used bright colourful lighting, and for moody songs, we adjusted the lighting accordingly.”

PRG XL’s event services co-ordinator, Ben Hornshaw performed the role of lighting programmer, and worked closely with Mac and Robert on all the live shows and in the pre-production stage...
As Ben reeled off the array of lighting products on show, it was clear that The Cure tour was a spectacularly creative production, with a menagerie of different looks and lots of punch.

Mac discussed how he has worked with The Cure for separate periods; the first beginning back in 1978, and then from 2011 until now. PRG XL Video account director Jon Cadbury co-ordinated the supply of lighting for the tour, Mac emphasised Jon’s relationship with the band: “One of the main reasons PRG XL supply The Cure is down to Jon, he worked with them in the days of Samuelson’s, before they became PRG, and the tour has stayed with Jon ever since.”
Jon Cadbury added: “We’ve supported The Cure since 1985, when I was introduced to Mac and the band by their then tour manager, during a tour of Europe and America, promoting ‘the Head on the Door’ album. To have such loyalty from one act over a thirty year period is both humbling and gratifying in equal measures.”

Dan Large performed the multi-functional role of video crew chief, content assembler and director/operator for the show...
Dan discussed how the video content for the show was an equal split between live action, and predetermined content: “Much of the video content we used for the show was legacy footage from previous tours. Robert had a very close involvement with me assembling all the footage for the show, his attention to detail is amazing, and I have notes from him suggesting changes to video content, which literally use frame references as waypoints. From the outset, it was clear that Robert would accept nothing short of perfection, some of the transitions between content were edited hundreds of times until Robert and Mac were both totally happy with it.”

Ever since the late 80s, I'd had the impression that the Cure's lighting set was massive! It is obvious that Robert is involved in every detail of a Cure show, pre-planning the lighting concept etc.  :smth023
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Solo projects / Re: Reeves Gabrels & His Imaginary Friends
« Last post by Ulrich on May 23, 2017, 09:48:30 »
http://www.reevz.net/

SUMMER 2017 TOUR

July 14-15 Nashville TN NAMM Showcase
July 18 Toledo OH A Day at Reverend Guitars
July 20 New York NY TBA
July 21 Marlboro NY The Falcon
July 22 Troy NY The Hangar
July 25 New Haven CT Cafe Nine
July 28 Louisville KY Time + Space
July 29 Lexington KY The Green Lantern
July 30 Nashville TN TBA
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https://www.loltolhurst.com/events
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Jun 10, 2017 (11am) - San Diego, CA
Vinyl Junkies Record Swap
Casbah San Diego
2501 Ketner Blvd
San Diego, CA 92101
Tickets are $3 at the door

Jun 20, 2017 (6pm) - Berkeley, CA
Mad Monks Center for Anachronistic Media
2454 Telegraph Ave,
Berkeley, CA 94704

Jun 21, 2017 (5:30pm) - San Francisco
VIP Evening with Lol Tolhurst
This event is limited to 40 people and will include a spoken word performance, question and answer session and the chance to get a photo or an autograph. Address will be provided to ticket holders 24 hours prior to the event.

Jun 21, 2017 (8:30pm) - San Francisco
VIP Evening with Lol Tolhurst (late)
This event is limited to 40 people and will include a spoken word performance, question and answer session and the chance to get a photo or an autograph. Address will be provided to ticket holders 24 hours prior to the event.
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News from reliable sources / Re: LatAm2013 DVD news
« Last post by Ulrich on May 23, 2017, 09:42:41 »
Tim Pope comments on this project once again:

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To be clear, the South Amercan footage will probably be included In a bigger protect, the gods willing. Stop bugging me!!!

https://twitter.com/timpopedirector
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