Now, take a look at Morrissey. He came back with a bang after seven years of silence. He put out two great albums within two years (not counting a live album and a live dvd). He did some incredible live shows and is still touring, and his shows are always a memorable experience. The audience is alive and is celebrating him, while the Cure audience seems to be mostly bored. Morrissey still has that magic that RS lost a long time ago.
honestly to me, morrissey's as boring and as arrogant as he always was. his musical output compared to the smiths - johnny marr was where the one there with something to say musically. the smiths had something to say, even though morrissey was already ruining a lot of it.
he's totally impossible to watch/listen as a live performer.
about audiences "celebrating" morrissey: hmm. just when was such a "surface" reaction in the audience something that could be used as a direct measuring tool for the quality or the performance? all kinds of silly bands have fanatic followers but that doesn't mean they were worth shit. a lot of indie rock groups have extremely intense audiences, yet nothing's really happening there in the crowds after all. when you look at it from the outside it might look like everyone's just standing there "being bored" - but go there yourself and you should notice the difference, the intensity's there.
different artists have different udiences. i guess morrissey's persona appeals to a lot of people who like to adore someone who's openly highly narcistic and takes his (imagined) superiority as a fact. and nothing bad in that, whoever likes it may like it, i don't mind. i on the other hand don't see anything universally adorable or extremely entertaining and memorable on his live performances.
i've been in a few recent cure audiences and i wouldn't actually say people were being bored. it looked kind of contrary to me.
and whereas the cure still reaches a lot of new younger fans, it's a fact that their audiences have matured and aged. maybe their audience now consist more of people who don't have to jump around, go stagediving or be throwing knickers on stage or whatever. but that doesn't mean they weren't truly and intensely enjoying the show or that they were bored.
moreover, the cure/RS never acted like complete clowns like morrissey. sure, a 50-year old guy in make-up looks kinda weird - but so what? just like i can't be interested in RS the man or details of his personal life i don't really care how he decides to look like. the attitude towards one's work is what matters to me. on live shows i appreciate it that there's no narcistic fooling around catwalk kind of "ah, me!!" stuff taking place there but concentrate on playing the songs.
RS is not a clown on the inside, like morrissey more or less always is/was and wanted to be.
I just hope that RS will never take off his shirt to throw it into the audience, that's the last ting I want to see *shudder*.
: why should you fear that? or hehe maybe you secretly wish to see it because you even mention it.
anyway, i'd rather watch a poor ugly old shirtless robert on stage (although that would surely be dead-ugly hehehe!
) just because he still doesn't try to pretend or act he's something he's not when he's there on stage
- compared to geeks like that pelvis-swinging conceited clown called morrissey for instance. or all those millions of other geeks out there who think they are so very interesting just because they have a slogan for life like "everybody look at me, i am me, i'm here, i'm so great, it's so great to be me, me me meeeee". christ!
I honestly don't think that The Cure will ever be able to make a truly outstanding album that makes people go "Wow!".
yes, maybe not. but to be honest: so what?
i actually find it very hard to believe either, i'm sure they've well way past their heyday now. but i don't have to feel frustrated over it, it really doesn't matter. it doesn't change or diminish anything they did earlier or undo all the good stuff they (obviously) gave us.
and why should they have to be accused in advance for "probably never making a truly outstanding album again" anyway?
let's wait and listen to it first. maybe it's carp, who knows - but so what.
I think that RS used to be a British Icon as well, but he is fading away and is slowly becoming an embarrasment to Britain. I mean, he looks like a silly clown and his music becomes more and more boring and uninspired. Not to mention that RS as a person doesn't have any charisma left whatsoever. Maybe that's what you get for drug abuse: To shine bright and then burn out.
for me, one of the first artists that come to mind when i think of the word 'embarrassing' is definitely mr. morrissey, not RS.
strange, no? i guess.
anyway, i'm sorry to notice it if you really seem to feel so bad about the cure these days. and i'm really not sure what you expect any of us to say to it.
and don't take this as an offense (because it isn't meant to be one), but maybe it's time to move on to a morrissey forum then?
would simply sound like a lot less frustration to me, i guess.