this is the artwork for the new single
(http://bp1.blogger.com/_5LP1Yi4Xov4/SIYvL2Y2IzI/AAAAAAAAAPo/B8AJbzELJ1o/s320/Perfectboycd.jpg)
thanks CoF.
Just bigger picture :-D
(http://bp0.blogger.com/_5LP1Yi4Xov4/SIeZTOJ73FI/AAAAAAAAAPw/c7XOMUHWByc/s1600/perfectboycover.jpg)
very nice artwork and very nice song. I enjoy on this so much, cause I love live version. I am curios on studio version :P
nice cover, i like this the best of the 4 singles
Official site now updated with countdown timer to single release. Sounds great!
Quote from: othervoices on August 01, 2008, 19:25:38
Official site now updated with countdown timer to single release. Sounds great!
The snare drum sounds weak!!!!! This kind of things make me miss Boris Williams a lot!!
Quote from: patitodark on August 01, 2008, 19:57:56
Quote from: othervoices on August 01, 2008, 19:25:38
Official site now updated with countdown timer to single release. Sounds great!
The snare drum sounds weak!!!!! This kind of things make me miss Boris Williams a lot!!
The drums do sound a little strange... Somewhat hollow, maybe? Like they were recorded with a lo-fi equipment... Anyway, I'm no expert.
Robert's voice also seems too high in the mix, but that seems to be the rule nowadays.
As for the (small bit of the) tune itself, it doesn't sound bad but it doesn't sound particularly exciting, either. Which also seems to be the rule with these new singles... (well, the loop-like intro to "Sleep When I'm Dead" sounds great and I've found "Freakshow" to be somewhat annoying since the very beginning, but I take these 2 examples as exceptions).
I've heard the snippet from the official site, and a live version from Atlanta, Georgia, and I do prefer the live version so far. Only Freakshow sounds as good/better in the studio, in my opinion, the other studio versions have sounded quite flat. Well well.
Quite like the artwork though, again.
Who is in charge of the art work? Patched art (Porl) as before?
Quote from: patitodark on August 07, 2008, 04:53:43
Who is in charge of the art work? Patched art (Porl) as before?
Yeah, you guessed it right. That's some interesting artwork there, in all these 2008 singles, but I think nothing can match the quality of the artwork from 'Seventeen Seconds' to 'The Head on the Door'. As far as artwork goes, those were The Cure's glorious days.
Anyway, as long as Robert does not appear on the covers, it's probably alright by me. The 'Disintegration' cover was ruined by this and the same happened to 'Bloodfowers'. And 'Wild Mood Swings', well... let's just say that one good thing that can be said about that album is that it somewhat sounds better than it looks ( :-D ).
Quote from: Poe on August 04, 2008, 21:58:07
I've heard the snippet from the official site, and a live version from Atlanta, Georgia, and I do prefer the live version so far. Only Freakshow sounds as good/better in the studio, in my opinion, the other studio versions have sounded quite flat. Well well.
I think Freakshow sounded better live! It was very fresh and quite a surprise to a lot of people. The studio version kind of ruined it for me. I think I liked it more when everyone seemed to hate it. :-D
I'm very curious about the b-side for this one as well. Those have been my favorites so far from the singles (Down Under and NY Trip!). And of course, Underneath the Stars. :smth023
sounds exactly like I expected it to. Not neccisarily a bad thing. I havent really been blown away by any of the singles so far besides SWID. Ive liked them but the album tracks are shaping up to be fantastic. A Boy I Never Knew, Baby Rag Dog Book, and *gush* Underneath the Stars are going to be great.
Quote from: KingOfSomeIsland on August 08, 2008, 18:25:47
I havent really been blown away by any of the singles so far besides SWID. Ive liked them but the album tracks are shaping up to be fantastic. A Boy I Never Knew, Baby Rag Dog Book, and *gush* Underneath the Stars are going to be great.
I completely agree here. Can't wait to hear the takes on the non-singles. As far as the singles go, I have to say this one is definitely my least favorite. It sounds like it fits in well with the lesser ones from the self titled album.
Quote from: GreenGhost on August 11, 2008, 15:35:19
Quote from: KingOfSomeIsland on August 08, 2008, 18:25:47
I havent really been blown away by any of the singles so far besides SWID. Ive liked them but the album tracks are shaping up to be fantastic. A Boy I Never Knew, Baby Rag Dog Book, and *gush* Underneath the Stars are going to be great.
I completely agree here. Can't wait to hear the takes on the non-singles. As far as the singles go, I have to say this one is definitely my least favorite. It sounds like it fits in well with the lesser ones from the self titled album.
A guy uploaded the full song in YouTube (now is gone) and my impression is that it sounds like a b-side from WMS like Adonais or A Pink Dream. Same overall sound, same drumming style and drum sounds.
The effect in the voice in the "oooohhh girl" part sounds nice though.
I didn't like it.
Hello Curefans,
Just wanted to share the new video for this last single:
http://rapidshare.com/files/136883810/the_cure_the_perfect_boy_640_Curefans.flv.html
I've founded that on mtv overdrive Italy, but I think it will soon be avaliable everywhere.
A nice single to everyone! :D
Thank you. Just put it in the Curefans.com channel in YouTube. Thanks again!
http://es.youtube.com/watch?v=FPoE_O0bayU
After hearing the full song I gotta say I really like it. Its catchy and fun, but meaningful at the same time, I think of all the mix 13 singles this one is the one that has the best chances of being a hit
Decent song. Agree with revolt, Robert's vox sound a little high. I will wait to make judgment until I hear the album mix. Perhaps it will be different.
there's a reason why this song, on this particular day..
Happy 20th Wedding Anniversary Robert and Mary
Weeell, don't care much for the lyrics, hehe. Yet again it's the story about the nice girl who wants to live happily ever after with one boy ( :roll:), while the boy is the realistic one who just wants to have a good time and ends up hurting her. Sounds like a variation of There Is No If... Well, I guess the ending makes it fit better as an anniversary song though... ;)
Happy anniversary.
Lyrics:
http://curefans.com/index.php/topic,5479.0.html
Can't believe. The boys are publiciting this video in this shitty page (I've got a message from The Cure MySpace about this)
http://perezhilton.com/tv/?videoid=2a8e049bb7e85
What has to do The Cure with that shitty paparazzi website? :smth017
Why they don't do make publicity of the video throught Curefans.com's YouTube Channel instead?! :D
Well, it'll probably be seen on Perez Hilton's page more than it would through MTV. Besides, they say any publicity is good publicity ;)
what's that, some parishilton site? :lol:
Quote from: japanesebaby on August 15, 2008, 07:50:31
what's that, some parishilton site? :lol:
Never heard of Perez Hilton, the self-proclaimed "Queen of All Media"?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perez_Hilton
I don't follow his blog or anything (not really into the whole celebrity gossip or outing scene), but it does get a lot of hits. There are already 117 comments for The Perfect Boy on his page and who knows how many views. Sure, I'd rather Robert provide a link to the Curefans page. But hey, if he wants to send out a link to a sight as some sort of attempt to find a new audience I'm all for it. More interest in the band could mean another US tour.
i know that blog. i was just...
well, nevermind.
"an attempt to find new audiences" - sure. perhaps they can arrange some new curiosa festival tour with fall out boy & co. :D :oops:
(and no i wouldn't mind if THAT was just another US exclusive.)
Quote from: japanesebaby on August 15, 2008, 08:22:39
i know that blog. i was just...
well, nevermind.
"an attempt to find new audiences" - sure. perhaps they can arrange some new curiosa festival tour with fall out boy & co. :D :oops:
(and no i wouldn't mind if THAT was just another US exclusive.)
Oh no, maybe that's what this emo remix EP is all about, Curiosa 2 with all of those bands. Good god that would be awful! I should smite you for suggesting such :P We should erase the comments just in case RS is lurking. We wouldn't want to put any ideas in his mind :!:
Quote from: japanesebaby on August 15, 2008, 07:50:31
what's that, some parishilton site? :lol:
Yep. PerzeHilton = Britney Spears, Paris Hilton, Linday Lohan. Sorry but can't see how the Cure fix in there.
sigh.. :smth088
I can't get excited by these two new songs. I'm REALLY disappointed...
Is it going to get to the stage where "I like their old stuff better than their new stuff"? I hope not..
I really want to like this but find it kinda boring. I kind of hum along to the chorus bit... time will tell..
:smth011
I like this single!
But I attend underneath the stars and A boy I never knew! :smth020
I love both songs on the single. The 5/4 rhythm of "Without you" works much better as one might expect. The only thing that would make the single perfect would be some keyboard sounds on "The perfect boy", but maybe the album version will have them.
they're growing on me... we'll see....
The single is good, but not their best.
The B-side is bad, easily the worst B-side of the lot so far. I don't enjoy listening to it (in my opinion of course).
Robert's voice strains too much, he tries to sing too many high notes lately.
Skip the emo EP. We want the album, and mix it properly!!!
I actually love The Perfect Boy AND Without You...it's probably my favourite of the 4 singles, and I seem to be one of the minority who's loved them all...
The Perfect Boy gets stuck in my head every time I hear it and I adore Without You - musically I think it's beautiful (LOVE the guitar)and my first impression of it was that it reminded me of Bloodflowers, with an edge(?) - that doesn't mean it necessarily sounds like anything from Bloodflowers, it's just a feel about it that just reminds me of it...(completely irrational on my part, I know). And I love the vocals - yes, I'm also one of the ones who thinks Robert sounds better know than he did 20 years ago....
And as for the EP - I hate emo and am as surprised as everyone else about the choice of remixers but, I'm reserving judgement until I hear it. I can't see how anyone can judge it before they've heard it....
All in all, I guess there's no pleasing everyone....
Quote from: Lostflowerboy on August 18, 2008, 14:23:52
The 5/4 rhythm of "Without you" works much better as one might expect.
not sure what you mean by 5/4 rhythm(?). it's based on 3-beat rhythm, more detailedly it's 9/4 with a subdivision to 3+6.
alternatively you can think of it as 3+3+3 beats, with a special accent in the middle, like: one-two-three,
ONE-two-three, one-two-three.
i don't hear any 5/4 rhythm anywhere, it's all based on 3.
hmm, one annoying thing about the production is the damn awful echo added on everything. just listening to 'the perfect boy' here and the vocals are just totally drowned in the echo - it reminds me a line from 'pulp fiction', about mayonnaise: "they fuckin' drown them in that shit!" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SLtwFugudZE). :-D
and listening to 'without you' now... the same thing: why must there be that awful echo all over everything?
it's not just the vocals, pretty much everything's bathed/drowned in the same sort of "echo-ish mayonnaise". i get a feeling like it was used in order to give the sound some grandeuse feeling, a feeling of space and vastness. the problem just is that it works totally opposite: it doesn't sound vast and grand, everything just becomes messy. it's like listening to a massive symphony orchestra in a cathedral that has something like a 15 seconds echo: you cannot really hear anything because the sound gets all muffled, however fine and detailed the playing was.
i really don't understand the choice of this echo effect used on everything. it's just sounds like a pretty cheap-ish choice, like someone in the studio just decided to run everything through the same cheap-o effect machine. and you just find yourself wondering "why?"
because i could actually really like both songs - if i could only have it without all the mayonnaise... ah too bad! :S
(i almost find myself wishing for someone making cover versions of these, with "clean" arrangement... and i find it weird because i never hoped that before, for a cure song!)
(and some people will see red again, i know... anyway i really hope that jason would leave the cymbals alone... i think 'without you' is such a prime example of how he always must bash the cymbals when the chorus comes up - just listen to it!
and now, there's another "why?")
I agree wholeheartedly, jb. I actually like the songs themselves but find the decision to wash all of the vocals (and quite a few backing instruments) in plate reverb and delay quite curious. I really hope this is just a "feature" of the Mix13 singles. Then again, all of the songs sound kind of messy (except Sleep When I'm Dead, which is as close to f*cking spot on as any of these singles has gotten - mix wise - and even THAT is slightly off)... I think Robert is using too many words in the songs and that, couple with the echo/delay, is not helping the claustrophobic messiness of it all.
Quote from: japanesebaby on August 29, 2008, 13:01:28
it reminds me a line from 'pulp fiction', about mayonnaise: "they fuckin' drown them in that shit!" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SLtwFugudZE). :-D
(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y125/crowbi_wan/IMG_0663.jpg)
Holland isn't the only place you'll find your fries doused with excess mayonnaise, eh JB? :smth081
(Nor a shortage of The Scorpions blaring in the streets during the wee hours of the morning) :P
Quote from: japanesebaby on August 29, 2008, 12:50:10
not sure what you mean by 5/4 rhythm(?). it's based on 3-beat rhythm, more detailedly it's 9/4 with a subdivision to 3+6.
alternatively you can think of it as 3+3+3 beats, with a special accent in the middle, like: one-two-three, ONE-two-three, one-two-three.
i don't hear any 5/4 rhythm anywhere, it's all based on 3.
Thanks for explaining. I wasn't sure about 5/4 but at least I figured out it's neither 4/4 nor (standard) 3/4. 8)
Quote from: crowbi_wan on August 30, 2008, 06:35:47
Holland isn't the only place you'll find your fries doused with excess mayonnaise, eh JB? :smth081
yeah, i think it's been proved that whatever they tell you about the magnificence & superiority of the french cuisine, don't believe it:
it's still all based only on mayonnaise. lots of it. ;)
(and having the scorpions blaring on the background just enhances that sudden revelation...)
Quote from: Lostflowerboy on August 30, 2008, 10:54:20
Quote from: japanesebaby on August 29, 2008, 12:50:10
not sure what you mean by 5/4 rhythm(?). it's based on 3-beat rhythm, more detailedly it's 9/4 with a subdivision to 3+6.
alternatively you can think of it as 3+3+3 beats, with a special accent in the middle, like: one-two-three, ONE-two-three, one-two-three.
i don't hear any 5/4 rhythm anywhere, it's all based on 3.
Thanks for explaining. I wasn't sure about 5/4 but at least I figured out it's neither 4/4 nor (standard) 3/4. 8)
you're welcome. and ok i see now what you were after. having the accent on the second beat (1,
2, 3) can certainly create a bit of a uneven rhythmic landscape.
having an accent on the second beat in triple meter goes back to sarabande (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarabande). not sure if that was what bob was after though...
but perhaps they could make a video for the song in baroque style, complete with wigs and everything(?). to add some color to their world again, those recent black&white videos were so gloomy...
perhaps it would also solve bob's hair problems?:
(http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/3860/baroquebob2ll0.th.jpg) (http://img144.imageshack.us/my.php?image=baroquebob2ll0.jpg)
i think he'd look cool. :P
Well I'm really unimpressed by this single. In my opinion, Freakshow is the most exciting of them all. I hate to think what the rest of the new LP will be made up of. Where has the weirdness gone? I love The early stuff for that reason, and nowadays it seems to have gone very same-ish... sigh. I think I'll end up being one of those (yep, you know it's coming!) "I like their old stuff better than their new stuff" people - as mentioned before by someone... sorry, forget who said it at this moment in time!!! Maybe age is getting to them. Or a lack of stimulating chemical inspiration!? Nevermind, I'll still buy the album and still go to see them if they ever come back to Oz. I doubt the new album will put me off. And let's face it, after Wild Mood Swings, I can survive anything!!
Quote from: ~*CherryRed*~ on August 30, 2008, 13:23:00
"I like their old stuff better than their new stuff" people - as mentioned before by someone... sorry, forget who said it at this moment in time!!!
That was me.. it's a Regurgitator song...
Quote from: ~*CherryRed*~ on August 30, 2008, 13:23:00
Where has the weirdness gone? And let's face it, after Wild Mood Swings, I can survive anything!!
WMS had weird in it. The 13th, Strange Attraction and the song type varied from pop to rock to breezy acoustic guitar songs.
Ah well that's my opinion anyway..
PS that red font is terrible on my old eyes :-)
Quote from: nausearockpig on August 31, 2008, 05:04:28
Quote from: ~*CherryRed*~ on August 30, 2008, 13:23:00
Where has the weirdness gone? And let's face it, after Wild Mood Swings, I can survive anything!!
WMS had weird in it. The 13th, Strange Attraction and the song type varied from pop to rock to breezy acoustic guitar songs.
Ah well that's my opinion anyway..
i was just thinking about the same. and so isn't it somehow ironic how everyone was bashing WMS back then, saying it was not the cure etc. etc. - and now, when compared to the new stuff it's actually starting to sound like some more or less good ol' vintage cure?
how times change, and people and their minds with it...
Quote from: nausearockpig on August 31, 2008, 05:04:28
PS that red font is terrible on my old eyes :-)
it's a bit hard to read, to be honest. i actually need to highlight a post in my browser every time, to read it any of it.
some of us are just so (http://www.myrawr.com/graphics/smileys/character/img/33.gif) (http://www.myrawr.com/graphics/smileys/index.html)
;)
as time goes by, new stuff becomes old stuff..
those new singles sound pretty bad when played live - i listened to the MTV Spain thing and The Only One sounded weak as. in about 5 years it will sound fine.. maybe with the addition of another player, either Geetar or KBs to fill the sound out and take away what sounds to me like Robert's lack of vocal confidence in the song
Ah sorry there you ol' farts... but red is my fav. colour!!!
Quote from: ~*CherryRed*~ on September 01, 2008, 04:18:37
Ah sorry there you ol' farts... but red is my fav. colour!!!
nothing wrong with tha, at least it wasn't yellow or something - now that would be truly alarming. sort of. ;)
Quote from: ~*CherryRed*~ on August 30, 2008, 13:23:00
I think I'll end up being one of those (yep, you know it's coming!) "I like their old stuff better than their new stuff" people
i know what you mean, feeling those scary words coming up... although trying to think positive: even scarier than that would be the "i even like that old stuff of theirs which i used to hate better than their new stuff" status, so let's hope that all is not lost yet! ;)
"i even like their old
Just checked 'Without You' and 'The Perfect Boy' on You Tube... Again, nothing really bad, but overall, quite underwhelming. 'Without You' does have some nice guitar and as a song, on the whole, it sounds, well, kind of nice, at best... (argh!, it seems that I'm at a loss for words here, but the best thing I can say about the best of any of these new songs is really only... "kind of nice"). Where is the magic of The Cure, Robert?
And again, I have to repeat that Robert's vocals are too high in the mix... That, coupled with the vocal effects (echo and backing vocals, it seems), results in Robert starting to sound annoying. It reminds me of WMS, in that respect. Annoying vocals was one of the problems of that album: even an otherwise good song like 'Jupiter Crash' had an annoying-vocals-section in it...