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Title: Cure and depression
Post by: Virpi on January 25, 2009, 21:06:43
Maybe this is quite strange question but i'd like to know does everyone Curefan suffering/suffered depression?

I have been it for years....

(sorry my poor English :( )
Title: Re: Cure and depression
Post by: dsanchez on January 25, 2009, 22:25:48
I don't think we can say someone who does like The Cure suffers of depression, but I always had the impression that most Cure fans were always more sensitive people than the "average".

It's interesting that you ask this because I realised the other day how depressing and sad lyrics we find in most Cure songs, specially songs during the "Faith" era. And not only in the lyrics, Robert's voice sounds sometimes like if he's giving up everything.

Having said this, hope you will be OK, Virpi.
Title: Re: Cure and depression
Post by: fiction on January 25, 2009, 22:49:45
I to, find it interesting and the question sort of goes with the territory of being a fan of Cure. If I may put forward a personal reflection it will be that there are certain songs that one prefer if being sad (or glad aswell) and that these songs will bring you to a state of equilibrium and normality. that is, of course, if nothing all too severe has happened. Then music mayby wont have any impact.

I myself find it very comforting to listen to Seventeen Seconds if the lights of my little corner of the world scatters.

But I wouldn´t take it that far as to say that people who likes the Cure suffers from depressions. Hopefully there is a sesitivety involved as dsanchez suggests.

I really hope that You get off of Your depression.
Title: Re: Cure and depression
Post by: japanesebaby on January 25, 2009, 23:33:40
Quote from: fiction on January 25, 2009, 22:49:45
I to, find it interesting and the question sort of goes with the territory of being a fan of Cure. If I may put forward a personal reflection it will be that there are certain songs that one prefer if being sad (or glad aswell) and that these songs will bring you to a state of equilibrium and normality. that is, of course, if nothing all too severe has happened. Then music mayby wont have any impact.

I myself find it very comforting to listen to Seventeen Seconds if the lights of my little corner of the world scatters.

But I wouldn´t take it that far as to say that people who likes the Cure suffers from depressions. Hopefully there is a sesitivety involved as dsanchez suggests.

I really hope that You get off of Your depression.

me too.

i once remember reading somewhere (or was it on the radio? not sure) some journalist say something like
"in the 80's, if you were someone who was very aware of things, you listened to U2 - if you were someone with issues (in life), you listened to the cure". whereas i do sort of understand where this journalist was getting at, i also dislike that sort of categorizing. because when you think about it and look around, for every person who got into the cure because of hearing 'faith' or 'pornography', there always seems to be a person who got into the band because of 'the lovecats' or 'friday i'm in love'. so it's a lot more complicated than that. the sensitivity factor twice mentioned above seems to be a sort of key. but there is sensitiveness and there is sensitiveness.
well i hope that makes some sense.

anyway, to me the cure is very enigmatic, their strength always been in being so versatile and often unpredictable (just like the life is like). so i guess their fan-base is also quite varied, and quite naturally so. 

Title: Re: Cure and depression
Post by: wish-man on January 25, 2009, 23:39:33
Quotei'd like to know does everyone Curefan suffering/suffered depression?

Hm, my girlfriend was in depression for one year because of me and then I was because of her. And it been while we were listenin' to The Cure music... it really helps me when I'm in a bad mood or someone annoyed me. 'The Cure and Depression - it is like coffee and cigarette'  :smth023 IMHO

My g'friend cant listen to The Cure anymore because of memory about this kinda 'black' period between us...  :roll:

BUT IM STILL THE CURE FAN!!!! YAHOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!  :-D

PS: ok. last Chinese 'new year' holiday has gone and now I can change my avatar to normal, yeh?!
Title: Re: Cure and depression
Post by: Heroin Face on May 07, 2009, 10:32:41
i've apparently had it for a little while. i dont think depression and the cure go hand in hand, the cure seem to be great at 'mood' music though i think. their songs are great at expressing an emotion in one of its purest forms. like when i'm in a great mood, i cant really listen to anything but doing the unstuck. i used to lie in my room in the dark with disintegration, faith and seventeen seconds on repeat. their not a symptom of depression, more just a mood setter.
hope you feel better soon.
Title: Re: Cure and depression
Post by: japanesebaby on May 21, 2009, 08:21:52
i don't think the cure's music have this depressing quality at all. but try joy division and it's there -> http://curefans.com/index.php/topic,2057.msg63839.html#msg63839

although i'm not sure what everyone means by "depression" here. just feeling low at times (which is perfectly normal) or really being clinically depressed(?).
Title: Re: Cure and depression
Post by: mothtoaflame on September 06, 2009, 16:47:14
i've had several periods of depression, and every time, the cure has helped me out of it.
:-D :-D :-D
Title: Re: Cure and depression
Post by: kingofsorrow on September 08, 2009, 06:38:53
i've suffered with depression, anxiety since my early teenage years. the cure's music has been an anchor these last 20 years. everything from being an outsider in high school, losing the love of my life, raising a child on my own(who is a huge fan herself), losing my grandparents and a whole mess of other harsh things.
i've never relied on medical help for my problems, just mad bob and his band of merry holligans. :-D
Title: Re: Cure and depression
Post by: japanesebaby on September 08, 2009, 09:36:21
many of these testimonials actually make me think that the cure is/has been more like eh, a cure for depression than something that goes along with it.
so i'd say that the cure fans are no more prone to depression than any other people are but the cure fans have some extra home remedy to treat that unhappy state with.
just my two cents at the moment.
:D
Title: Re: Cure and depression
Post by: jbud1980 on December 20, 2009, 21:41:56
Quote from: fiction on January 25, 2009, 22:49:45
But I wouldn´t take it that far as to say that people who likes the Cure suffers from depressions. Hopefully there is a sesitivety involved as dsanchez suggests.

yeah, it's not like this is a morrissey fan site.
Title: Re: Cure and depression
Post by: japanesebaby on December 20, 2009, 22:47:16
Quote from: jbud1980 on December 20, 2009, 21:41:56
Quote from: fiction on January 25, 2009, 22:49:45
But I wouldn´t take it that far as to say that people who likes the Cure suffers from depressions. Hopefully there is a sesitivety involved as dsanchez suggests.

yeah, it's not like this is a morrissey fan site.

morrissey lol ;)
Title: Re: Cure and depression
Post by: wish-man on December 20, 2009, 23:42:13
Quote from: jbud1980 on December 20, 2009, 21:41:56
yeah, it's not like this is a morrissey fan site.

Ohhh I would offer a million jokes at his expense, but I'll refrain  :-D
Title: Re: Cure and depression
Post by: jbud1980 on December 22, 2009, 03:52:20
Quote from: wish-man on December 20, 2009, 23:42:13
Quote from: jbud1980 on December 20, 2009, 21:41:56
yeah, it's not like this is a morrissey fan site.

Ohhh I would offer a million jokes at his expense, but I'll refrain  :-D

go ahead, i'll laugh.
Title: Re: Cure and depression
Post by: ofthedeepgreensea on May 05, 2010, 17:55:36
i actually did get into the cure during my teen angst stage of life.  and i definitely had those days when i'd be blasting pornography, angry at the world.

but as for true depression, i don't really suffer from it.  i'm certainly a very very emotional person though.
Title: Re: Cure and depression
Post by: MeltingMan on February 06, 2015, 16:16:20
In my sphere two persons were once seriously affected by depression
and both of whom were not Cure fans."We" are seemingly less endangered.
Nevertheless, depression is a very serious disease. Gone! from WMS described
the state perfectly.
Title: Re: Cure and depression
Post by: Ulrich on February 07, 2015, 12:59:59
Hm, this is an interesting topic.

Somehow I don't agree with everything you said though: in my opinion, serious "depression" is a disease, which basically can hit anybody, no matter what their musical taste is!

But I can imagine The Cure's music pulling persons who are maybe a bit more "melancholy" as others. Many teenagers and especially the more "gothic" types got into the band, because in many songs they described feelings of "teenage angst", estrangement, sadness etc.

"Gone" I always did see as a description of someone who gives himself a bit of a "kick": don't just stay in bed, the world keeps turning, get out and get gone! (That someone might have been depressed, but in the song seems to overcome it and motivate himself...)

Another songs which might talk about something like depression is "Untitled":
Hopelessly fighting the devil futility
Feeling the monster climb deeper inside of me
Feeling him gnawing my heart away hungrily
I'll never lose this pain
Never dream of you again
...
Title: Re: Cure and depression
Post by: MeltingMan on February 08, 2015, 12:04:35
Quote from: Ulrich on February 07, 2015, 12:59:59serious "depression" is a disease, which basically can hit anybody, no matter what their musical taste is!
Yes indeed. I think that Cure fans are more aware of the "dark shadow on the horizon" if you will.
Music can help when you're in (personal) trouble. I'm not sure if music can prevent a proper
depression. Maybe, but when you're suffering it you need in any case medical help.This is
what I have learned in the past fifteen years.
Title: Re: Cure and depression
Post by: Ulrich on February 08, 2015, 18:58:16
Quote from: MeltingMan on February 08, 2015, 12:04:35
Music can help when you're in (personal) trouble.

Yep, I agree. Music can have "healing" effects. Absolutely.

"Music therapy" is also an important thing in my opinion. Apparently it only works with "real" music, not with the digital stuff (i.e. no cd's, mp3's and stuff)...
Title: Re: Cure and depression
Post by: dsanchez on February 11, 2015, 19:36:40
Quote from: MeltingMan on February 08, 2015, 12:04:35
Music can help when you're in (personal) trouble.
Ohne Musik wäre das Leben ein Irrtum said Nietzsche, and how true is this! And yes, music can help you to relax, to escape but because of its power I can imagine it can sink you and make you more depressed if you already are (e.g. I don't think is a good idea to play "All Cats Are Grey" or "Faith" in a very bad moment).

Quote from: Ulrich on February 08, 2015, 18:58:16
Yep, I agree. Music can have "healing" effects. Absolutely.
Yes, indeed. Here's an interesting article on this subject music and healing (http://hms.harvard.edu/news/harvard-medicine/musical-notes-healing).

I really can't imagine my life without music - specially music of The Cure, of course ;)
Title: Re: Cure and depression
Post by: -:- Elle Lie -:- on December 14, 2016, 23:46:42
It's interesting what I just read.

I also think that people who have some life experience (rather complicated or testing) are very receptive to their music, without being really depressed.
We really have a higher sensitivity and we ask ourselves the "real" things "really" important. This is no longer the case now ...
Sometimes, I feel a little different from the others and completely shifted (Is that the word ?). I can't understand certain aspects of life and attitude of people, things that seem completely aberrant and abnormal.

I feel like I have taken another route but the others have stayed on the straight.
And when I listen to Cure, I feel like I'm on the right track and I feel in my place.

I'm very receptive to Robert's voice and his vibrations (yes, yes, I'm normal  :D), it's both strange and reassuring.
I always have a feeling of benevolence and love, I don't know where it comes from but it's like that... And I don't drink, don't smoke et don't take drugs ! (thanks to my daughter, she allows me to keep my feet on the ground  :smth060)