curefans.com

The Cure => General The Cure Discussion => Books => Topic started by: japanesebaby on August 28, 2007, 18:08:21

Title: "Ten Imaginary Years" Barbarian/Sutherland/Smith
Post by: japanesebaby on August 28, 2007, 18:08:21
'ten imaginary years' by lydie barbarian, steve sutherland and robert smith
first edition 1988 by fiction/zomba books (UK)

ok i guess this book obviously needs no introduction.
'if you only have one cure book then get this one' - yet the eternal question seems to be: will it ever be updated and re-published?
this one still stops around '87...  :roll:
'twenty imaginary years' (or why not 'twentyfive') would be very welcome companion to have.
Title: Re: 'ten imaginary years' (barbarian/sutherland/smith)
Post by: japanesebaby on August 28, 2007, 18:11:07
does anyone know whether this has been translated to any other language?
even when this one's almost official (at least semi-official), i just find it strange if this one was never chosen for to be translated whereas some other cure books (and a lot inferior ones!) have been translated.
Title: Re: 'ten imaginary years' (barbarian/sutherland/smith)
Post by: Carnage Visor on September 01, 2007, 02:18:38
OH MY ROBERT! I mean...GOD! :eek:Robert actually WROTE a book on The Cure and I don't have it???

Shame on me! I've gotta search EBAY, man!
Title: Re: 'ten imaginary years' (barbarian/sutherland/smith)
Post by: Tof on September 01, 2007, 04:11:03
There are 10 specimens of this book in France which are dedicated by Robert. they were to be gained in a French émmission, “the children of the rock'n'roll”, Barbarian was invited.
Title: Re: 'ten imaginary years' (barbarian/sutherland/smith)
Post by: japanesebaby on September 01, 2007, 11:22:24
Quote from: Carnage Visor on September 01, 2007, 02:18:38
OH MY ROBERT! I mean...GOD! :eek:Robert actually WROTE a book on The Cure and I don't have it???

Shame on me! I've gotta search EBAY, man!

yes you have to get it NOW dude!!!  :rocker

maybe you noticed it already, but anyway here's one ending today:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/THE-CURE-TEN-10-IMAGINARY-YEARS-GLOSSY-PHOTO-BOOK_W0QQitemZ170142301385QQihZ007QQcategoryZ86003QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

:smth023
Title: Re: 'ten imaginary years' (barbarian/sutherland/smith)
Post by: silversand on September 01, 2007, 23:54:11
Ten imaginary years is in my opinion one of the best books about The Cure.
This is a must have. You can also get it e.g. from the amazon marketplace  :)
Good luck Carnage Visor  :smth023


Title: Re: 'ten imaginary years' (barbarian/sutherland/smith)
Post by: Descent on September 02, 2007, 00:45:46
Quote from: Tof on September 01, 2007, 04:11:03
There are 10 specimens of this book in France which are dedicated by Robert. they were to be gained in a French émmission, “the children of the rock'n'roll”, Barbarian was invited.

That was funny you translated the name of the tv show... :lol: I'm not sure it was Les Enfants du Rock though but something called Planète Rock.

Otherwise, yes, there's a French edition (since Barbarian was a French journalist !) too. But I don't think the book was published elsewhere (apart from UK and France). That French edition has been out of print for almost 2 decades (but you can find old copies sometimes).

Robert Smith supervised the 10 Imaginary Years book, that's why he's credited as author. He actually censored a few things apparently. :-D But it's greatest book on the band, because it feels like you're at a bar with them (the exagerated bits, I love them !). :lol: It's nice to have their words/opinion directly.

On an eventual book's follow up, I think the planned dvds pack relating the band history will probably replace that.

Title: Re: 'ten imaginary years' (barbarian/sutherland/smith)
Post by: scatcat on October 28, 2007, 09:24:29
I just finished reading this book, I got it from the links to Amazon via curefans.com!!!

I can definately say there are quite a lot of things I never really knew about The Cure and Robert Smith, just from this book!  I wish it didn't just stop there.. I wish it kept going on... so many quotes and different opinions.  :smth023

I can say this truly.. I admire Mary for staying by Robert's side during the formative years of the band!  Imagine if it all fell apart.. there'd be no Cure!!

This book ROCKS   :rocker
Title: Re: 'ten imaginary years' (barbarian/sutherland/smith)
Post by: Janko on October 28, 2007, 16:09:55
THIS BOOK WAS TRANSLATED INTO SERBIAN ALSO
BUT IT WAS POORLY DESIGNED AND IT HAD VERY FEW PICTURES

WHAT IS WORSE I BOUGHT IT FROM ONE OF THOSE BARGAIN BOXES
OBVIOUSLY DIDNT SPUR MUCH INTEREST IN THE 90'S SERBIA

:smth011

IT'S A NICE BOOK THOUGH
PRECIOUS IF YOU'RE INTRODUCING YOURSELF WITH THE CURE
IT'S GREAT THAT IT COVERS THAT EARLY, EARLY PERIOD...
Title: Re: 'ten imaginary years' (barbarian/sutherland/smith)
Post by: gioez on November 14, 2007, 14:42:37
I've got in 1990 and it's a real treasure.
Yes, it's strange that nobody translated this great book vs other languages.
Title: Re: 'ten imaginary years' (barbarian/sutherland/smith)
Post by: scatcat on November 14, 2007, 15:39:47
Quote from: gioez on November 14, 2007, 14:42:37
I've got in 1990 and it's a real treasure.
Yes, it's strange that nobody translated this great book vs other languages.

what languages would the curefans want or prefer to be translated into?  just a possibility..
Title: Re: 'ten imaginary years' (barbarian/sutherland/smith)
Post by: splitmilk34 on November 14, 2007, 19:46:20
I've been on a mission for a few years to find this book.  I've gone to new, used and independent book stores alike and haven't had any luck.  I refuse to pay $50 or something ridiculous off of Amazon, but I'm really DYING to read this.  If it's even 1/2 as great as "Learning How to Die" (the Wilco biography by Greg Kot - a revelation, I must say) then I may have to at least shell out $30.

I'd really like to see this get re-issued along with a wave of album remasters.  That might be nice.
Title: Re: 'ten imaginary years' (barbarian/sutherland/smith)
Post by: japanesebaby on November 14, 2007, 20:48:38
Quote from: splitmilk34 on November 14, 2007, 19:46:20
I've been on a mission for a few years to find this book.  I've gone to new, used and independent book stores alike and haven't had any luck.  I refuse to pay $50 or something ridiculous off of Amazon, but I'm really DYING to read this. 

the links that amazon offers for used/out of print books can often be completely ripoff-ish.  :smth011
instead, try ebay and i assure you'll find a copy pretty easily - and with a lot nicer price.
for instance, i don't think these are completely bad deals:

http://cgi.ebay.com/The-Cure-Ten-Imaginary-Years-Barbarian-Steve-Sutherl_W0QQitemZ330179689096QQihZ014QQcategoryZ378QQrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD1VQQcmdZViewItem

http://cgi.ebay.com/THE-CURE-TEN-IMAGINARY-YEARS-UK-BIOGRAPHY-BOOK_W0QQitemZ120170556020QQihZ002QQcategoryZ268QQrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD1VQQcmdZViewItem

and those are buy-it-now prices. if you have patience to keep on eye on some of the auctioned ones (like this:

http://cgi.ebay.com/THE-CURE-TEN-IMAGINARY-YEARS-OFFICIAL-BIOGRAPHY-p-b_W0QQitemZ140177142319QQihZ004QQcategoryZ274QQrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD2VQQcmdZViewItem

and you might very well get it even cheaper than that.
there are usually several copies being auctioned at all times. and if not, then just wait a few days and one or two auctions will pop up.

good luck!
Title: Re: 'ten imaginary years' (barbarian/sutherland/smith)
Post by: splitmilk34 on November 14, 2007, 23:14:33
Thanks Marika... you're right, those aren't bad deals at all.  I didn't really check Ebay before because of a previous bad experience, but I think I'll have to strongly consider it now!
Title: Re: 'ten imaginary years' (barbarian/sutherland/smith)
Post by: Joe on February 04, 2008, 19:13:51
I read it a few years ago when I was just getting into the band and obsessed with them. I live in Pennsylvania and I ordered a copy to read through the local library. It arrived all the way from the Houston Public Library and it was one of the best band biographies I've read.  :D
Title: Re: 'ten imaginary years' (barbarian/sutherland/smith)
Post by: Hero on May 29, 2008, 23:31:28
I just got it today  :-D :-D :-D and i read it all immediately (ok it took quite a few hours...) i was surprised at the size! It wasn't cheap but really great to read and very funny, especially some of the Lol stories!
This book is amazing :rocker
Title: Re: 'ten imaginary years' (barbarian/sutherland/smith)
Post by: Poe on May 30, 2008, 02:22:55
Quote from: Hero on May 29, 2008, 23:31:28
I just got it today  :-D :-D :-D and i read it all immediately (ok it took quite a few hours...) i was surprised at the size! It wasn't cheap but really great to read and very funny, especially some of the Lol stories!
This book is amazing :rocker

Hey! Don't think you can hang on to that book forever! You have to sleep sometime... :smth036

Anyhow, I found some more places where you are supposed to be able to buy a copy. Perhaps they could be worth a try:

http://www.alibris.co.uk/search/books/qwork/1431725/used/The%20Cure%20Ten%20Imaginary%20Years

https://www.sheetmusicuk.co.uk/smusic/more/on/details/OP45293
Title: Re: 'ten imaginary years' (barbarian/sutherland/smith)
Post by: japanesebaby on May 30, 2008, 07:19:22
Quote from: Poe on May 30, 2008, 02:22:55
Anyhow, I found some more places where you are supposed to be able to buy a copy. Perhaps they could be worth a try:

http://www.alibris.co.uk/search/books/qwork/1431725/used/The%20Cure%20Ten%20Imaginary%20Years

https://www.sheetmusicuk.co.uk/smusic/more/on/details/OP45293

thanks for links Poe. yet i think these book sellers offer some rather rip-off prices(!). anyone looking for this should try ebay instead and they'd probably only have to spend £5 or something:

http://search.ebay.co.uk/search/search.dll?from=R40&_trksid=m37&satitle=ten+imaginary+years

(anyway i think Hero already got a copy(?), like she said.)

Title: Re: 'ten imaginary years' (barbarian/sutherland/smith)
Post by: Poe on May 30, 2008, 09:53:42
Quote from: japanesebaby on May 30, 2008, 07:19:22
(anyway i think Hero already got a copy(?), like she said.)

Yes I know, those links were for other people visiting the thread.

Ebay again huh? Could give it a try. I'll be looking for the book when I'm in the US, maybe I'll even have time to order it and get it there...Thanks for the link.  :D
Title: Re: 'ten imaginary years' (barbarian/sutherland/smith)
Post by: maccatori on June 04, 2008, 18:28:34
Anyone else wanting it, try www.abebooks.co.uk. It's a database of secondhand bookshops. Ok some are expensive, but one for £11.99.
http://www.abebooks.co.uk/servlet/SearchResults?kn=ten+years&sortby=3&tn=ten+imaginary&x=0&y=0
Also Amazon marketplace £10.99 upwards!

It is the best book available, best designed & written. An update one day would be priceless!
Title: Re: 'ten imaginary years' (barbarian/sutherland/smith)
Post by: j on June 04, 2008, 18:56:37
Just found this thread.  I actually have 2 copies....one I originally bought around the time it first came out, and the other my wife got me a few years back, signed by Robert, Simon, Porl, and Lol!
Title: Re: 'ten imaginary years' (barbarian/sutherland/smith)
Post by: Poe on June 04, 2008, 19:33:14
Quote from: j on June 04, 2008, 18:56:37the other my wife got me a few years back, signed by Robert, Simon, Porl, and Lol!

Oh my. I can imagine the price tag on that. (http://www.cureconnections.com/images/smilies/t/swoon.gif) IF you'd sell it, of course, which I highly doubt...(http://www.cureconnections.com/images/smilies/eusa_pray.gif)
Title: Re: 'ten imaginary years' (barbarian/sutherland/smith)
Post by: j on June 05, 2008, 04:05:52
Next time I'm home, I'll try to remember to get a picture of it to post here. :smth023
Title: Re: 'ten imaginary years' (barbarian/sutherland/smith)
Post by: Poe on July 08, 2008, 10:30:20
Well....I got my copy.  :rocker Decided to order one through amazon (second hand) and was pleasantly surprised when it turned out to be in much better shape than I had expected. Not a single page read yet, but I'll be back with a comment once I've found a nice, quiet glade to settle down in for a couple of hours...see you later.  :smth039
Title: Re: 'ten imaginary years' (barbarian/sutherland/smith)
Post by: revolt on July 08, 2008, 11:01:59
Quote from: Poe on July 08, 2008, 10:30:20
Well....I got my copy.  :rocker

Hey, Poe, how can you headbang to a book?   ;) :-D
Title: Re: 'ten imaginary years' (barbarian/sutherland/smith)
Post by: Poe on July 08, 2008, 22:10:06
Quote from: revolt on July 08, 2008, 11:01:59
Quote from: Poe on July 08, 2008, 10:30:20
Well....I got my copy.  :rocker

Hey, Poe, how can you headbang to a book?   ;) :-D

What better way to mark the über coolness of the occasion than with a headbang, ey?  ;)  Felt good. 8)

I'm gonna go show the book to a fellow Cure fan soon. Here she goes: :rocker
Title: Re: 'ten imaginary years' (barbarian/sutherland/smith)
Post by: leipzigcure on July 22, 2008, 07:43:23
This is a great piece of collection for any fan of The Cure!!!. I´ve got this great book and I can tell you that the amount of stuff between every page is amazing.

But I really wonder why doesn´t continue with the others years of the band?, why only since the year 1987?, it would be better continue the history of the imaginary years since today, don´t you?.

Cheers!!! :D
Title: Re: 'ten imaginary years' (barbarian/sutherland/smith)
Post by: scatcat on July 22, 2008, 18:19:56
Quote from: leipzigcure on July 22, 2008, 07:43:23
This is a great piece of collection for any fan of The Cure!!!. I´ve got this great book and I can tell you that the amount of stuff between every page is amazing.

But I really wonder why doesn´t continue with the others years of the band?, why only since the year 1987?, it would be better continue the history of the imaginary years since today, don´t you?.

Cheers!!! :D

not had enuff? ..  ;)

try: "Never Enough" by Jeff Apter. 

published in 2005, Omnibus Press... continues further and deeper than 'Ten Imaginary Years'. 


I think the best book yet!  :smth023
Title: Re: 'ten imaginary years' (barbarian/sutherland/smith)
Post by: leipzigcure on July 23, 2008, 01:30:33
Hi Friend, what´s new?.

Wow!!!, I never had seen this book before I think that is a great jewel as was Ten Imaginary Boys.

I wish get this book the more soon possible inasmuch as I love read and learn more about The Cure.

Other book very interesting is A Visual Documentary (there´s only 2 editions: 1987 and 1992) where date for date the author tell us how The Cure have changed and growed across of the years.

It is possible to get this book(never enough) in some web page as ebay or mercadolibre for mexico?.

Thanks so much for the information, I´ll try to get this book, I hope very soon.

Greetings!!!
:D :D :D
   


Quote from: scatcat on July 22, 2008, 18:19:56
Quote from: leipzigcure on July 22, 2008, 07:43:23
This is a great piece of collection for any fan of The Cure!!!. I´ve got this great book and I can tell you that the amount of stuff between every page is amazing.

But I really wonder why doesn´t continue with the others years of the band?, why only since the year 1987?, it would be better continue the history of the imaginary years since today, don´t you?.

Cheers!!! :D

not had enuff? ..  ;)

try: "Never Enough" by Jeff Apter. 

published in 2005, Omnibus Press... continues further and deeper than 'Ten Imaginary Years'. 


I think the best book yet!  :smth023
Title: Re: 'ten imaginary years' (barbarian/sutherland/smith)
Post by: Padme on August 23, 2008, 08:11:02
I have this book sitting somewhere w/ all my Cure stuff & yes, it's a good book.  Never got to see 20 Imaginary Years (wasn't sure if that ever came out... I only heard there was going to be one.)  I do have the Documentary book that was revised after Teddy joined the band.  I also have "Faith" by Dave Bowler & Bryan Dray that I got @ Tower Records.  This book was published in 1995 & it features interviews w/ Tim Pope & others who have worked w/ the group over the years.  "It analyses the Cure's contribution to popular music & shows how their extraordinary success has been gained on their own terms - a triumph of single-mindedness over fashion" which is what it says on the back of the book.
Title: Re: 'ten imaginary years' (barbarian/sutherland/smith)
Post by: mooki on January 19, 2015, 12:31:02
This is a great book.. .seems much more indepth than Never Enough, although it doesn't go over Disintegration and anything after it.

I would love to see Robert's words about Disintegration, as in depth they get in Ten Imaginary Years
Title: Re: 'ten imaginary years' (barbarian/sutherland/smith)
Post by: Ulrich on January 19, 2015, 12:57:23
Quote from: mooki on January 19, 2015, 12:31:02
This is a great book.. .seems much more indepth than Never Enough

Yes, it's much better. I bought this in 1989 and it added to my "obsession" with The Cure.  ;)
Even today, I like to re-read things, e.g. to quote something from this book here in the forum if apt.

Sadly, the follow-up "More Imaginary Years" which was talked about around the release of "Galore" (1997), never materialised, does anyone know why?  :?
Title: Re: 'ten imaginary years' (barbarian/sutherland/smith)
Post by: Sodoura on April 08, 2015, 21:53:05
Do they ever think of the younger fans? xD I think not because I SO NEED this book and it's never been re-realeased as it says while I'm reading through this thread. :smth089 :smth089 :smth089
Title: Re: 'ten imaginary years' (barbarian/sutherland/smith)
Post by: Ulrich on April 09, 2015, 11:30:54
Try "Never Enough" by Jeff Apter, which is closest to a decent "Cure biography" in recent years...
(I think there is a re-issue, which omits the mistakes of the first edition.)