Russia attacks Ukraine

Started by dsanchez, February 24, 2022, 10:20:02

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MeltingMan

I do not believe in an entanglement of Ukraine when attacking in Krasnogorsk. But memories become awake ...

Quote from: WikipediaAt the hostage-taking in the Moscow Dubrowka Theater on October 23, 2002, 40 to 50 armed people, who even attributed themselves to the separatist movement of Chechnya, made 850 people into their violence and asked for the withdrawal of the Russian troops from Chechnya.

After the hostage-taking in Moscow had already lasted two and a half days, special units of the Russian domestic intelligence company FSB pumped a gas mix of Carfentanyl and Remifentanil [1] into the ventilation system of the theater and stormed the building minutes later. The anesthetized terrorists were killed by the special units by head shots. 130 hostages died, 5 by the hostage-takers, 125 due to inadequate medical treatment from the consequences of gas use. [2] [3]
En cette nation [Russie] qui n'a pas eu de théoriciens et de démagogues,
les pires ferments de destruction ont apparu. (J. Péladan)

Ulrich

Germany's chancellor, Scholz from the SPD (Social Democrats), has tried to persuade China's leader Xi to help end the conflict, but experts do believe Germany has no real "weight" compared to China...

https://www.tagesschau.de/ausland/asien/china-scholz-wirtschaft-ukraine-100.html

Quotetagesschau.de: Bei den geopolitischen Fragen ging es zwischen Scholz und Xi unter anderem um Chinas Position im Krieg gegen die Ukraine. Hier sagte der chinesische Präsident gegenüber Scholz, China sei keine Partei in diesem Kontext. Ist das nicht eine reichlich beschönigende Darstellung?

Shi-Kupfer: In der chinesischen Übersetzung hieß es, China sei keine direkt involvierte Partei. Aber in der Tat beschönigt das die Unterstützung Russlands durch China, sei es durch die Ausweitung des Handels mit Russland, sei es durch Lieferung von zum Beispiel Drohnen, Flugzeugmotoren oder anderen Maschinenteilen, die für Kriegsgerät wie Raketen verwenden werden, was Russland dabei hilft, in diesem Konflikt durchzuhalten und so dazustehen, wie es jetzt dasteht. Das vertuscht China mit dieser Formulierung und ist etwas, worüber die chinesische Regierung nicht offen spricht.

tagesschau.de: Welche Strategie verfolgt China in diesem Krieg?

Shi-Kupfer: Der Krieg verläuft aus Sicht der chinesischen Regierung in ihrem Interesse. Ein anhaltender, nicht eskalierender Konflikt bindet die US-amerikanische und die europäischen Regierungen und beschränkt ihre Möglichkeiten, sich mit der spannungsgeladenen Lage im Südchinesischen Meer zu beschäftigen - mit den Ansprüchen, die China zudem auf Taiwan und weitere Regionen erhebt.Wenn der Ukraine-Krieg weiter eskalieren und die Sanktionen gegen Russland noch härter würden, könnte China wegen seiner Unterstützung für Russland noch stärker ins Visier geraten. Ich möchte zwar der chinesischen Regierung nicht absprechen, dass sie auch an einem Friedensschluss interessiert ist. Aber unter geopolitischen Gesichtspunkten missfällt der anhaltende Konflikt China sicher nicht.
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MeltingMan

I don't have to emphasize that the military situation for Ukraine does not look good. Recordings of an attack west of Donetsk suggest that not only air defense is inadequate, but also the artillery. Ammunition is now available again, but is used incorrectly. The hit position, on the other hand, is effective enough on immovable targets. And with the Leopard 1/2 you have to ask yourself whether they are consciously held back, regardless of the supply with spare parts. A flight ban zone is not even discussed! However, it would actually be necessary if Ukraine should not lose the war. The use of heavy mortars and 500 kg bombs on the Russian side justifies actually combat missions of B-52's.  :1f636:
En cette nation [Russie] qui n'a pas eu de théoriciens et de démagogues,
les pires ferments de destruction ont apparu. (J. Péladan)

MeltingMan

These "special trains" to Kiev make me curious. The German Economic Minister was there recently - his second trip after a year. On the interior shots of the first trip you can see that there is also a conference wagon where he meets with his delegation. The occasion may be complicated and/or sad, I am so pleased that German politicians are so welcome. Thanks! ❤️
En cette nation [Russie] qui n'a pas eu de théoriciens et de démagogues,
les pires ferments de destruction ont apparu. (J. Péladan)

MeltingMan

Quote from: WELT, 30.04.2024Weapons like Taurus can only be delivered if you keep control over everything that is done with it, said [Chancellor] Scholz in a 'citizens dialogue' in Lüneburg. This weapon is so effective and precise over long distances, "we can go to a living room directly," he pointed out. Therefore, in the event of a delivery, Germany must "keep control of target control. But we must not do that because if we did it, we would be involved in the war," said the Chancellor.

This is also possible with combat drones, only that they are limited at range and flight altitude. One or more Su-34 are also much faster. So I have changed my opinion about Taurus. The number of pieces will be manageable anyway, and what Ukraine does with it will ultimately not be our business.  :frowning:

Another note: rocket debris, probably from North Korean production, have already been found in the Kharkov area. Isn't it an irony that South Korea has over 200 Taurus? 
En cette nation [Russie] qui n'a pas eu de théoriciens et de démagogues,
les pires ferments de destruction ont apparu. (J. Péladan)

dsanchez

Excellent like always, Professor Mearsheimer

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MeltingMan

The dismissal of Mr. Schoigu with simultaneous attack operations in the Kharkiv area are more of a sign of weakness, not strength. They have to attack before the promised US aids arrive at the front. Nevertheless, a kind of defeatism is noticeable in western media. :?
En cette nation [Russie] qui n'a pas eu de théoriciens et de démagogues,
les pires ferments de destruction ont apparu. (J. Péladan)

MeltingMan

Quote from: BildSpectacular recordings from the southeast of Ukraine show the targeted destruction of the most modern Russian anti-aircraft system through a previously retired US rocket from the 1990s. Although the Russian S-400 launches six rockets onto the approaching ballistic US rocket, none hits the target. Seconds later, the Russian "high -tech" is destroyed.

The splintering effect is good, but 165 km range of the first ATACMS series are inadequate. It should be at least 200 km.
En cette nation [Russie] qui n'a pas eu de théoriciens et de démagogues,
les pires ferments de destruction ont apparu. (J. Péladan)

MeltingMan

Quote from: WELTSurprise! Chancellor Scholz allows German weapons to be used against targets in Russia.

According to the Federal Government, Ukraine may also defend itself against shelling from the Russian border area with weapons delivered from Germany. "In the past few weeks, Russia has prepared, coordinated and executed attacks, especially in the Kharkiv area, of positions from the immediately adjacent Russian border area," explains government spokesman Steffen Hebestreit by press release. "Together we are convinced that Ukraine has the right to defend itself against these attacks." The spokesman does not say which weapons from Germany could be used for this. The PzH 2000 and the rocket launcher Mars-II would come into question due to their range.

 :smth023
En cette nation [Russie] qui n'a pas eu de théoriciens et de démagogues,
les pires ferments de destruction ont apparu. (J. Péladan)

Ulrich

Our Minister of Defense, Pistorius, recently said something and I think he's right: we should not discuss such strategies in public over the media. Does Russia discuss where their weapons come from and how to use them? No.
These things should be discussed by politicians and military experts, outside the public view.
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MeltingMan

I saw the interview. Kiev was forced to deduct units of air defense from the front to ensure the protection of the civilian population in the major cities. But that was exactly what was intended by the aggressor (Russia)!

The Russian Air Force has no "range problem". And every restriction in the use of western weapons also helps Russia and limits the possibilities of Ukraine hitting back, always on the condition that Ukraine has the last word in this matter.

We had long, excruciating, public discussions ... ultimately without meaning. In this respect, the minister may be right, but, and that also became clear in the interview, he cannot prevent such questions in Warsaw, Brussels and elsewhere. Experts and politicians can make wrong decisions. Do we want to put the problem on future generations?! Russia is already preparing the next war ... in twenty, thirty years.
En cette nation [Russie] qui n'a pas eu de théoriciens et de démagogues,
les pires ferments de destruction ont apparu. (J. Péladan)

Ulrich

Quote from: MeltingMan on June 02, 2024, 09:49:50Do we want to put the problem on future generations?! Russia is already preparing the next war ... in twenty, thirty years.

Or maybe much earlier, e.g. if we "hand them over" the Ukraine, as some people suggest...  :1f636:
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