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The Apollo Moon Missions Were Fakied in a Studio
« on: August 23, 2010, 16:22:32 »
The evidence that the Apollo moon missions were faked in a studio is crushing. The US government can't censor the evidence that's on the internet but it can bury it with disinformation and obfuscation. If you enter "Apollo hoax" in Google, you'll find about fifteen pro-Apollo sites for every hoax site. I made a collection of some of the hoax evidence the government is trying to bury.


At the 2 minute 35 second mark of the video the flag is still. When the astronaut goes past it, it starts to move.

There's an analysis of that here in this three part series.

 
More here...
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=MoonFaker%3A+Flagging+The+Dead+Horses&aq=f

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There's a noticeable difference in the body movements in these two clips.

http://www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/a11/a11v.1101330.rm

What I hypothesize is that a fifty percent slow-motion was used in Apollo 11 to simulate lunar gravity. Later, they improved their methods of simulating lunar gravity and started using a combination of slow-motion and support wires. The slow-motion in the later missions might not have been exactly half-speed. It might have been sixty five or seventy percent of natural speed. It looked better but it was inconsistent with Apollo 11 footage. The inconsistency is apparent.

At around the 21 minute mark of this video the above footage from Apollo 11 can be seen played at double speed.
Man didnt land on the moon

It can also be seen in this video at around the 30 minute 40 second mark.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8455110982587487066#

(The above video "A funny thing happened on the way to the moon" keeps going on and off-line. If the above link is dead, click here)
http://video.google.es/videosearch?q=a+funny+thing+happened+on+the+way+to+the+moon&hl=es&emb=0&aq=1&oq=a+funny+thin#

It looks just like movement in earth gravity.
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When the footage from this clip is doubled, the movements look unnaturally fast.


Here it is doubled.


When the Apollo 11 footage is doubled, the movements look natural. This makes it very clear that they used a simple fifty percent slow-motion to simulate lunar gravity in Apollo 11 and a faster slow-motion (around 67 percent according to Jarrah White's calculations)...


...combined with wire supports in the later missions.

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If you look at the acceleration of the object that falls from the astronaut's backpack and the acceleration of the hammer and feather that fall, it's apparent that there's a difference in the way gravity affects the objects.



Evidently the slow-motion speed is different.
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Watch how the corner of Collins' jacket moves in this clip.
http://www.livevideo.com/video/7720A028ADB54169962B6961582AEC2F/apollo-xi-the-little-gem-par.aspx
(4:10 time mark)

It swings back and forth the way it would in gravity.
Look at the corners of the jacket the woman astronaut is wearing in this clip.


This is real zero-gravity and they behave quite differently.
One possible explanation is that they were trying to fake zero-gravity in a diving plane and the plane wasn't diving fast enough at that point.
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There is no blast crater under the lander.
http://thoughtworld.files.wordpress.com/2009/07/picture1.jpg

That is discussed in this five part video series.


The moon rocks are often presented as proof the missions were real. There are plausible explanations that would explain them.




People say the Soviets would have snitched. There are explanations for that too:
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_type=&search_query=moonfaker+cold+war&aq=f

http://www.nardwuar.com/vs/bill_kaysing/index.html
(excerpt)
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Well, why did they keep faking the Apollo flights, I still don't understand. Did the Soviet Union know it was faked? Why did they keep shut up if they knew it was faked? 'Cause a lot of people would think they kept the moon race going to prove the U.S. was better than the Soviet Union. If the Soviet Union knew, why did they let the U.S. get away with this?
Well, I'll tell you - at the highest levels there is a coalition between governments. In other words, the Soviets said, if you won't tell on us - and they faked most of their space exploration flights - we won't tell on you. It's as simple as that. See, what Apollo is, is the beginning of the end of the ability of the government to hoodwink and bamboozle and manipulate the people. More and more people are becoming aware in the U.S. that the government is totally and completely public enemy number one.
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http://www.apfn.org/apfn/moon.htm
(excerpt)
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The Soviets, with their own competing moon program and an intense economic and political and military rivalry with the USA, could be expected to have cried foul if the USA tried to fake a Moon landing. Theorist Ralph Rene responds that shortly after the alleged Moon landings, the USA silently started shipping hundreds of thousands of tons of grain as humanitarian aid to the allegedly starving USSR. He views this as evidence of a cover-up, the grain being the price of silence. (The Soviet Union in fact had its own Moon program).
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Noam Chomsky's analysis of the cold war-
http://www3.niu.edu/~td0raf1/history468/apr2304.htm
(excerpt)
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On the domestic front, the Cold War helped the Soviet Union entrench its military-bureaucratic ruling class in power, and it gave the US a way to compel its population to subsidise high-tech industry. It isn't easy to sell all that to the domestic populations. The technique used was the old stand-by-fear of a great enemy.
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It someone were to make a deathbed statement saying the moon missions were faked, the press would never report it as the press is controlled.
http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Media/media_watch.html
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_type=&search_query=chomsky+media&aq=f
William Schaap - Part 1/8 - The Media, CIA, FBI & Disinfo.

Also, it would be downright dangerous for someone to come forward. Look what happened to these guys.



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Here are some videos.

http://es.youtube.com/results?search_query=moonfaker&search_type=&aq=f







http://www.thule.org/brains/moon.rm

http://s125.photobucket.com/albums/p55/RackTheMouse/?action=view&current=Roverplantsreflector.flv
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What Happened on the Moon" (documentary)
http://video.google.es/videosearch?hl=es&source=hp&q=what%20happened%20on%20the%20moon&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wv#
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Here are some articles.

http://www.nardwuar.com/vs/bill_kaysing/
http://www.apfn.org/apfn/moon.htm
http://www.aulis.com/skeleton.html
http://erichufschmid.net/Interview-with-Bart-Sibrel.html
http://www.geocities.com/apollotruth/
http://www.aulis.com/investigation.htm
http://www.reddit.com/domain/northerntruthseeker.blogspot.com
http://northerntruthseeker.blogspot.com/2008/11/project-apollo-what-were-they-thinking_24.html
http://www.ufos-aliens.co.uk/cosmicapollo.html
http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Moon_Hoax
http://www.erichufschmid.net/Apollo_NASA.html
http://www.geschichteinchronologie.ch/atmosphaerenfahrt/28_moon-stones-from-Earth-ENGL.html
http://www.davesweb.cnchost.com/index.html
(Wagging the Moondoggie)
 
The astronauts look pretty nervous at the press conference.


Here's a link to the entire conference.
Conferencia de Prensa Astronautas Apollo 11

This keeps going on and offline so if this link is dead, try googling "Apollo 11 press conference".

Their behavior look pretty suspicious here too. It begins in the second half of the video.
Did we really land Men on the Moon?


The main reason they had to fake it was probably space radiation. Here are some articles and videos I've found on the subject.

http://www.geocities.com/apollotruth/
(excerpt)
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There is an old saying that "A liar needs a good memory". Nowhere is this more true than in the Apollo program. NASA tell lies to cover up previous lies, and other discrepancies uncovered by people investigating the Moon landings. Altering previous data, removing photographs, and retracting statements made, only re-enforces the evidence that NASA are on the run, and being forced into a corner to which they cannot escape. The actions of those under investigation makes the investigator more aware they are bluffing. The longer that person, or persons, who make the extravagant claims continue, the more lies they have to tell in order to counteract it, until it reaches the point where it becomes ridiculous. That point was passed in July 1999, when NASA officials were questioned about the Moon landings on television. They dodged the all important questions like a drifter dodges the heat.
Many Apollo astronauts have long since died, as to have many of the original NASA officials involved in the scam, consequently current officials, who know that Apollo was a fake, have not quite got it right when talking openly in public. Perhaps the biggest slip of the tongue was made by NASA Chief Dan Goldin when interviewed by UK TV journalist Sheena McDonald in 1994. He said that mankind cannot venture beyond Earth orbit, 250 miles into space, until they can find a way to overcome the dangers of cosmic radiation. He must have forgot that they supposedly sent 27 astronauts 250,000 miles outside Earth orbit 36 years earlier.
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two sets of radiation data
http://hey_223.tripod.com/bulldoglebeautaketooooo/id82.html
(excerpt)
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To prove his thesis, Rene tries to get certain solar data from NATIONAL
OCEANIC & ATMOSPHERIC ADMINISTRATION, (NOAA) using clever techniques
to
disguise his true intentions, [i.e. to get true data on solar flares.] NOAA,
unfortunately, proved to be as cagey as Rene in dodging the giving out of any
really good DETAILS on this matter, [you know, where the devil resides.]
Rene, seeing games being played, deduced that there must be two sets of data,
one which is sent to scientists on the preferred list, and one sent to the
likes of Rene as casual strangers. (p.125)
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http://ocii.com/~dpwozney/apollo5.htm
http://www.erichufschmid.net/MoreInfoForScienceChallenge.html
http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=9659&hl=apollo

These two are important
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http://www.buzzcreek.com/grade-a/MOON/articles1.htm

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(23 parts)

The Chinese space walks were obviously faked in a water tank and NASA's official position is that the Chinese space walks were real.


http://en.epochtimes.com/n2/content/view/5809/
http://en.epochtimes.com/n2/content/view/8332/

The pro-Apollo posters at the forums of both the "Clavius" and "Bad Astronomy" websites tap danced around the evidence that the Chinese space walk was faked because they have to agree with the official US government version and they can't say it was faked without looking silly. Here are the threads. They're hilarious.

http://www.bautforum.com/showthread.php/87594-Chinese-space-walk-conspiracy
http://apollohoax.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=othertheories&action=display&thread=2206

They pretty much destroyed the credibility of those two sites when they didn't seriously address the evidence.
http://www.opposingdigits.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1222

It's pretty clear that they're government damage-control sites.

Here's some good research if anyone wants to delve further.
http://s1.zetaboards.com/LooseChangeForums/single/?p=48603&t=51606

On this thread there's a debate between Jarrah White and Jay Windley.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0446557/board/thread/133905495?p=1

Jay Windley is the most famous pro-Apollo person on the internet.
http://www.clavius.org/about.html

Jarrah White is the main hoax-believer on the internet.
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_type=&search_query=moonfaker&aq=f

Here's some more stuff on Clavius and Bad Astronomy and Jay Windley.
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=125628


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Re: The Apollo Moon Missions Were Fakied in a Studio
« Reply #2 on: August 25, 2010, 10:34:05 »
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Ah, conspiracy theories.  :smth015

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third-party_evidence_for_Apollo_Moon_landings
Can you explain why the flag moved when the astronaut trotted past it in this clip?

(If this link doesn't work, do a YouTube search on "Apollo 15 flag waving")

It looks like air to me.  That means it was filmed in a studio.

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Re: The Apollo Moon Missions Were Fakied in a Studio
« Reply #3 on: August 25, 2010, 11:53:01 »
Can you explain why the flag moved when the astronaut trotted past it in this clip?

Can you explain why are you posting this stuff in a forum related to the british band The Cure?

Altought there's no explicit rule about this, we expect new members to post Cure related items, not off-topic messages. Are you going to post also stuff about The Cure?

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Re: The Apollo Moon Missions Were Fakied in a Studio
« Reply #4 on: August 25, 2010, 15:30:17 »
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Can you explain why are you posting this stuff in a forum related to the british band The Cure?
I'd made a collection of Apollo-hoax evidence and it seems kind of useless if I don't share it with other people.  The truth is I'd never heard of the Cure before I started posting here.  I just watched a couple of their YouTube videos and it's the kind of music I used to listen to back in the early seventies.  I'm an American and I used to be a stoner.  We used to get high and listen to Led Zeppelin, Deep Purple, and Grand Funk, etc.  When I stopped getting high, I started listening to classical music.  The Beatles are still my favorite group.  I also like Simon and Garfunkel. 

I live in Spain now and I've heard a lot of Latin Music that I probably wouldn't like if I didn't know any Spanish.  My favorite song now is a Cuban revolutionary song–Hasta Siempre.


Here's my YouTube channel which will give you an idea of my tastes in music.
http://www.youtube.com/user/Cosmored

I remember that, back when I was a stoner and I used to listen to music similar to the Cure, I cared about issues.  I would have appreciated it if someone had done some research and filled me on on what he or she had learned.  If someone here knows something I'm not up on, I want him or her to fill me in.  We're all in this together.  Cure fans and Beatles fans like me–we all have a common goal–to make the world a better place.  I was hoping I'd be permitted to talk about John Lennon here.  I think he might have been killed by the CIA because he was an outspoken, politically-informed person who was informing uninformed people on a large scale just by talking.
http://www.john-lennon.com/theassassinationofjl.htm

I'm also wondering about Michael Jackson.  I started this thread about him.
http://s1.zetaboards.com/LooseChangeForums/topic/3357951/1/

I wanted to post some other stuff too such as this topic.
http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=145871

People who like to party and listen to Heavy Metal usually like to be up on stuff like this, don't they?  I know that I used to.

I know my posts look like spam at first glance but I like to put all the important info on the first page to thwart the disinfo agents;...
http://www.opposingdigits.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1222

...they try to bury the evidence in the thread if it's scattered to reduce the number of people who see it.  To make an info thread shill-proof, all the info has to be in the first post.  I've learned this through experience.

Make a post or send me a message telling me what my status is.  I hope I'm allowed to stay and keep posting here. 


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Re: The Apollo Moon Missions Were Fakied in a Studio
« Reply #5 on: August 25, 2010, 15:48:28 »
Make a post or send me a message telling me what my status is.  I hope I'm allowed to stay and keep posting here.

You can keep on posting, you didn't break any rule here. I found just a little bit strange that your first post was a message full of links about an off-topic subject.

If you're new to The Cure I suggest you to check this topic

http://curefans.com/index.php/topic,6633.0.html

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Re: The Apollo Moon Missions Were Fakied in a Studio
« Reply #6 on: August 25, 2010, 15:50:58 »
Can you explain why the flag moved when the astronaut trotted past it in this clip?
http://www.badastronomy.com/bad/tv/foxapollo.html#flag
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Re: The Apollo Moon Missions Were Fakied in a Studio
« Reply #7 on: August 25, 2010, 16:34:57 »

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Where are you living in Spain? I used to live in Madrid until some weeks ago.
I live in Madrid.  I've been here since 1993.  I teach "English as a Second Language".  It's a pretty good life.

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    Can you explain why the flag moved when the astronaut trotted past it in this clip?
    Apollo 15 flag waving


http://www.badastronomy.com/bad/tv/foxapollo.html#flag
That analysis didn't deal with the clip in question.  Do a YouTube search on "Apollo 15 flag waving".

The flag moves at the precise moment when it's consistent with the atmosphere explanation.

If static electricity were the explanation, it would move every time the astrtonaut got close to it. It wouldn't only move at the precise moment when it's consistent with the atmophere explanation.

If it were vibration causing the staff and rod to move, they would visibly move. Also, the movement of the flag is not consistent with the rod having caused it to move.

If a kicked rock had caused the flag to move, there would have been a distinct impression of a rock hitting a precise spot on the flag. If kicked dust had caused the flag to move, the dust would have been visible as the dust is visible when kicked up in all the Apollo footage including this clip.

The movement of the flag is consistent with a wave of air hitting it and it moves at the precise moment when it's consistent with the astronaut's walking by it. The speed of the movement and the length of time it moves can be explained by slow-motion (see the part on slow-motion in post #1).

Bad Astronomy is a government damage-control site.  So is Clavius.  Here's some info on those two sites.
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=125628

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Re: The Apollo Moon Missions Were Fakied in a Studio
« Reply #8 on: August 13, 2011, 13:43:53 »
The Mythbusters series has been shown to be a fraud. This video explains it.

(2:00 time mark)

The flag comes to a stop exactly the way it would in air as the Mythbusters experiment shows. Mythbusters didn't show the whole flag footage because it showed they were wrong. They were being willfully deceptive.

We know the flag didn't come to a stop because the astronaut moved the pole as the support rod is attached to the pole and is shows the motion of the pole. The pole and support rod are not moving in a way that would make the flag stop moving. The tip of the flag stops moving in the same manner that it would in air. This is one more piece of irrefutable proof that the moon missions were faked in a studio.

This is the Mythbusters video in question.

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Re: The Apollo Moon Missions Were Fakied in a Studio
« Reply #9 on: August 13, 2011, 21:14:52 »
Hey, did it ever occur to you that perhaps everything in life is just an illusion and "fakied"?

Now take a deep breath and relax...  :smth004

 

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