What was the best Cure SOUND?

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What's the best CURE sound?

The 17 seconds/faith/pornography era
20 (25.3%)
The Top era
3 (3.8%)
The Head on the Door era (1985/1986)
4 (5.1%)
The Kiss me Kiss me Kiss me era (1987)
6 (7.6%)
The Disintegration era
24 (30.4%)
The Wish era
16 (20.3%)
The WMS era
1 (1.3%)
The Bloodflowers era
4 (5.1%)
The Cure 2005
1 (1.3%)
After 4:13
0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 20

B-Flower

The Best line-up was the Wish one! Teddy was good keyboardist, i absolutely love his parts on Paris cd!  :smth020 :rocker
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(passarinho)

Quote from: j on August 26, 2005, 08:51:45
For me it is 17 Seconds/Faith/Pornography.  Dark and dreary.  Perfect.


i agree ,because 17seconds and faith are my favorite albums.
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disintegration

Quote from: (passarinho) on June 23, 2007, 17:34:58
Quote from: j on August 26, 2005, 08:51:45
For me it is 17 Seconds/Faith/Pornography.  Dark and dreary.  Perfect.


i agree ,because 17seconds and faith are my favorite albums.
for me too!
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Carnage Visor

I'd have to say my favorite Cure "sound" is anything from their Easy Cure demos up until Disentigration...my honest opinion.

Aarna

I agree on that, the whole period was fruitful music-wise
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revolt

Quote from: disintegration on June 24, 2007, 10:37:38
Quote from: (passarinho) on June 23, 2007, 17:34:58
Quote from: j on August 26, 2005, 08:51:45
For me it is 17 Seconds/Faith/Pornography.  Dark and dreary.  Perfect.


i agree ,because 17seconds and faith are my favorite albums.
for me too!

Well, it's muy favourite era too. The issue here is: we cannot talk about just ONE SOUND here. It's two different line-ups (Robert-Simon-LoL and the same 3 plus Mathieu) and basically THREE different sounds, really.

'17 Seconds' has the most subtle/subdued spacy production, with Robert's voice placed as just another instrument.

In 'Faith' Robert's voice comes upfront (even though he hadn't yet developed completely in this area, and that is possibly the only problem with this album) and the bass guitar becomes the most important instrument, with the whole sound of the band being still relatively "minimal" and restrained.

With "Pornography" the intensity level increases overall, everything is louder and darker, and Robert shows for the first time that he truly is a singer (he would even get better, it's true).

maluflower

I love the minimality of the first few records up to Faith. Three Imaginary Boys I especially liked as it was very melodic and not quite as skeletal as Seventeen Seconds, although like revolt said, it was more about atmosphere for that one. But then I also really love the sort of fresh and refined sound that came with the addition of Boris and return of Simon to the group in 1985. It was like a Cure renaissannce.  :)

othervoices

I've always been a fan of the disintegration era... which in turn compliments seveneen seconds/faith/pornography.

However, the current 4tour take on older material has really rejuvenated the back catalogue... I'm not missing the keys at all.

DroidAKov

Clearly difficult to pick one.
When considering which to choose I ask myself which time would I have most apprieciated seeing them live, so this has to be 17Sec/Faith/Pornography 'era'.
The mix of at times minimalism with pure mood 'tunes' wins it for me.
While musically I've no doubt a lineup with Boris/Porl would make for a better band the thought of a live show at this time with these albums with sprinkles of the 1st album means there is only one choice for moi

mint car

for me is it Disintegration era. I love this album, and sound on this album is perfect. They used perfectly keyboards here. Especially Plainsong is beautiful keyboards song  :shock: and then for example Robert's Fender Bass VI in Pictures Of You...  :smth023
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Bloodflower

Has to be the Prayer Tour line up. Cold, majestic, beautiful. Keyboards and the six-string, that's what that tour was about.

The Wish line-up and the Seconds/Faith/Pornography line-up tie for second best, though. There's something to be said for the performances of Cut, End, and A Forest from 1992, something perhaps a little more to be said for the 1982 performances of songs like The Figurehead, The Drowning Man, All Mine [I'm looking at YOU, All I Have To Do Is Kill Her!], and Faith [in '81, obviously].

But yeah, you can't really beat 1989's performances of Plainsong, Pictures of You, Disintegration, Prayers for Rain, The Figurehead, All Cats Are Grey, The Holy Hour, The Same Deep Water, Homesick, Untitled, Cold[!], and especially Faith, which, especially in its live '89 incarnation, is the best ever Cure song.

So sayeth the Bloodflower....
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japanesebaby

Quote from: Bloodflower on August 06, 2008, 08:02:26
Has to be the Prayer Tour line up. Cold, majestic, beautiful. Keyboards and the six-string, that's what that tour was about.

i suppose it depends whether we're talking about the sound on the albums or the live sound here - or both(?).
i don't know how to vote because i don't know which one this is about.

because for instance: the soundscapes on the 'disintegration' album are certainly among the best there ever was, i can't say the same about the prayer tour live sound: the more i listen to the '89 live shows the more i am displeased with it, it's just lacking something. for instance,  it's lacking porl. the live sound was mixed weirdly and a lot of times you can't really hear him much at all.
:?


(and yes i agree that 17 seconds/faith/pornography shouldn't be clamped together as one era, regardless of whether it was about album or live sound. that's definitely three different eras there!
+where's pre-1980 from the poll? they had no sound (be it album or live) before that? :?:)

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revolt

Quote from: japanesebaby on August 06, 2008, 11:26:23
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because for instance: the soundscapes on the 'disintegration' album are certainly among the best there ever was, i can't say the same about the prayer tour live sound: the more i listen to the '89 live shows the more i am displeased with it, it's just lacking something. for instance,  it's lacking porl. the live sound was mixed weirdly and a lot of times you can't really hear him much at all.
:?



I think much of the time Porl is playing that melodic guitar / melodic bass sound, maybe that´s why you feel like can't hear him? He is playing the kind of things that you usually think Robert is playing (actually, on record sometimes it happens the other way round: the rocking solo on "From the Edge" is by Robert and not by Porl, as one would presume...).

japanesebaby

Quote from: revolt on August 06, 2008, 11:39:45
Quote from: japanesebaby on August 06, 2008, 11:26:23
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because for instance: the soundscapes on the 'disintegration' album are certainly among the best there ever was, i can't say the same about the prayer tour live sound: the more i listen to the '89 live shows the more i am displeased with it, it's just lacking something. for instance,  it's lacking porl. the live sound was mixed weirdly and a lot of times you can't really hear him much at all.
:?



I think much of the time Porl is playing that melodic guitar / melodic bass sound, maybe that´s why you feel like can't hear him?

not exactly. regardless of what he's playing i just think that he was too low in the mix then. of course there are songs where he's not even supposed to be prominent, like i suppose quite a lot of 'disintegration' stuff can be like that. so that's fine, i don't need to hear him all the time. but it's not the same on some older songs and sometimes the overall sound is just lacking guitars. just my opinion.
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revolt

Quote from: japanesebaby on August 06, 2008, 11:56:03
Quote from: revolt on August 06, 2008, 11:39:45
Quote from: japanesebaby on August 06, 2008, 11:26:23
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because for instance: the soundscapes on the 'disintegration' album are certainly among the best there ever was, i can't say the same about the prayer tour live sound: the more i listen to the '89 live shows the more i am displeased with it, it's just lacking something. for instance,  it's lacking porl. the live sound was mixed weirdly and a lot of times you can't really hear him much at all.
:?



I think much of the time Porl is playing that melodic guitar / melodic bass sound, maybe that´s why you feel like can't hear him?

not exactly. regardless of what he's playing i just think that he was too low in the mix then. of course there are songs where he's not even supposed to be prominent, like i suppose quite a lot of 'disintegration' stuff can be like that. so that's fine, i don't need to hear him all the time. but it's not the same on some older songs and sometimes the overall sound is just lacking guitars. just my opinion.

Well, you could be right, I'm not exactly familiar with Prayer Tour bootlegs. I only know 'Entreat' and, well, I attended one Prayer Tour show back in 1989. In both cases I never noticed a "lack of Porl", but then, it's been a long time...