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Re: Mixed Up & Torn Down
« Reply #15 on: April 06, 2018, 17:48:26 »
Hi, i won't be able to go to a record store on Record Store Day, so in case you manage to grab an extra copy of these two picture discs (if you are in Europe, elsewhere shipping costs are too high), please let me know by pm, thank you in advance.

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Re: Mixed Up & Torn Down
« Reply #16 on: April 08, 2018, 09:48:11 »
Looks like a 3cd box will be coming:

http://craigjparker.blogspot.de/2018/04/mixed-up-box-set-on-june-15th.html
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Amazon UK has a listing for a 3 disc 'Mixed Up' box set scheduled to be released on June 15th, 2018. They also have a listing for a single disc version also due out that same day.
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Re: Mixed Up & Torn Down
« Reply #17 on: April 08, 2018, 18:38:21 »
Saving money already. :)

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Re: Mixed Up & Torn Down
« Reply #18 on: April 09, 2018, 18:24:16 »
I'd love a "Mixed Up box" with ALL the extended versions still unreleased in CD: Primary, Let's go to bed, Just one kiss, The lovecats, In between days, Close to me, A japanese dream, etc. etc...
I still don't understand why those were not included in the double-cd deluxe albums or in "Join the dots"...  :(

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Re: Mixed Up & Torn Down
« Reply #19 on: April 09, 2018, 18:40:44 »
I'd love a "Mixed Up box" with ALL the extended versions still unreleased in CD: Primary, Let's go to bed, Just one kiss, The lovecats, In between days, Close to me, A japanese dream, etc.

Where did these extended mixes appear? I guess on the 12" singles?
(I didn't even know for sure if there is one of "Inbetween days", did I ever hear this one? Also with "A Japanese Dream", which was a b-side! Amazing what kinda stuff is out there...)
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Re: Mixed Up & Torn Down
« Reply #20 on: April 09, 2018, 18:53:02 »
I'd love a "Mixed Up box" with ALL the extended versions still unreleased in CD: Primary, Let's go to bed, Just one kiss, The lovecats, In between days, Close to me, A japanese dream, etc.

Where did these extended mixes appear? I guess on the 12" singles?
(I didn't even know for sure if there is one of "Inbetween days", did I ever hear this one? Also with "A Japanese Dream", which was a b-side! Amazing what kinda stuff is out there...)
Yes, the extended version are those of the 12" singles (but not all of them: "A forest" is simply the album version, "Charlotte sometimes" and "The caterpillar" are identical to the 7" versions, etc.)
The extended version of "Inbetween days" is about one minute longer at the beginning, and has been published in the U.S. edition of the 12".
The 'extended version' of "Close to me" is 6 minutes and a half long and IMHO is much better than the 1990 "Closer mix".

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Re: Mixed Up & Torn Down
« Reply #21 on: April 10, 2018, 10:29:42 »
The 'extended version' of "Close to me" is 6 minutes and a half long

Yep, I do own the 12" (looked for it and found it last night)!  :smth020
(I also own the cd single of "Close to me remix" (1990), but I agree the former is better.)
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Re: Mixed Up & Torn Down
« Reply #22 on: April 12, 2018, 11:11:14 »
Good news, everyone!

There will be a 3CD remastered 'Mixed up' box next june, including 'Mixed up', 'Torn down' and a third cd with extended versions from 1982 to 1990 (including an unreleased 1990 'Lovecats' mix).

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DISC ONE : Mixed Up – Remastered 2018

01: Lullaby – Extended Mix – 2018 remaster ( 7:43 )
02: Close To Me – Closer Mix – 2018 remaster ( 5:44 )
03: Fascination Street – Extended Mix – 2018 remaster ( 8:47 )
04: The Walk – Everything Mix – 2018 remaster ( 5:27 )
05: Lovesong – Extended Mix – 2018 remaster ( 6:19 )
06: A Forest – Tree Mix – 2018 remaster ( 6:55 )
07: Pictures of You – Extended Dub Mix – 2018 remaster ( 6:41 )
08: Hot Hot Hot!!! – Extended Mix – 2018 remaster ( 7:01 )
09: The Caterpillar – Flicker Mix – 2018 remaster ( 5:40 )
10: Inbetween Days – Shiver Mix – 2018 remaster ( 6:22 )
11: Never Enough – Big Mix – 2018 remaster ( 6:07 )

DISC TWO – Mixed Up Extras 2018 : Remixes 1982-1990

01: Let’s Go To Bed (Extended Mix 1982 – 2018 remaster) ( 7:44 )
02: Just One Kiss (Extended Mix 1982 – 2018 remaster) ( 7:15 )
03: Close To Me (Extended Remix 1985 – 2018 remaster) ( 6:31 )
04: Boys Don’t Cry (New Voice Club Mix 1986 – 2018 remaster) ( 5:29 )
05: Why Can’t I Be You? (Extended Mix 1987 – 2018 remaster) ( 8:07 )
06: A Japanese Dream (12″ Remix 1987 – 2018 remaster) ( 5:47 )
07: Pictures of You (Extended Version 1990 – 2018 remaster) ( 8:06 )
08: Let’s Go To Bed (Milk Mix 1990 – 2018 remaster) ( 7:13 )
09: Just Like Heaven (Dizzy Mix 1990 – 2018 remaster) ( 3:42 )
10: Primary (Red Mix 1990 – 2018 remaster) ( 7:10 )
11: The Lovecats (TC & Benny Mix 1990 – 2018 remaster) ( 4:39 )

DISC THREE – Torn Down : Mixed Up Extras 2018

01: Three Imaginary Boys – Help Me Mix by Robert Smith ( 3:21 )
02: M – Attack Mix by Robert Smith ( 3:07 )
03: The Drowning Man – Bright Birds Mix by Robert Smith ( 4:29 )
04: A Strange Day – Drowning Waves Mix by Robert Smith ( 5:05 )
05: Just One Kiss – Remember Mix by Robert Smith ( 4:57 )
06: Shake Dog Shake – New Blood Mix by Robert Smith ( 5:11 )
07: A Night Like This – Hello Goodbye Mix by Robert Smith ( 4:24 )
08: Like Cockatoos – Lonely In The Rain Mix by Robert Smith ( 3:49 )
09: Plainsong – Edge Of The World Mix by Robert Smith ( 4:33 )
10: Never Enough – Time To Kill Mix by Robert Smith ( 3:34 )
11: From The Edge Of The Deep Green Sea – Love In Vain Mix by Robert Smith ( 6:21 )
12: Want – Time Mix by Robert Smith ( 4:44 )
13: The Last Day of Summer – 31st August Mix by Robert Smith ( 5:44 )
14: Cut Here – If Only Mix by Robert Smith ( 4:25 )
15: Lost – Found Mix by Robert Smith ( 3:59 )
16: It’s Over – Whisper Mix by Robert Smith ( 4:54 )

Source: http://www.superdeluxeedition.com/news/the-cure-mixed-up-3cd-deluxe/

As far as I can see, the only missing 'old' extended versions are Primary, The lovecats, Inbetween days and Hey you.

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Re: Mixed Up & Torn Down
« Reply #23 on: April 12, 2018, 12:43:48 »
DISC THREE – Torn Down : Mixed Up Extras 2018

13: The Last Day of Summer – 31st August Mix by Robert Smith ( 5:44 )
14: Cut Here – If Only Mix by Robert Smith ( 4:25 )
15: Lost – Found Mix by Robert Smith ( 3:59 )

I still don't know if I'll buy it, but I like how Robert named the remixes here!  :)
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Re: Mixed Up & Torn Down
« Reply #24 on: April 12, 2018, 17:22:58 »
Still, I think would have replaced tacks 08,09,10 on cd 2, that are remixes 'easily' findable as 'b-sides' on cds from 1990, and replaced them by primary (extended, 1980), the lovecats (extended, 1983), and inbetween days (extended, 1985), that are almost impossible to find (on cds).

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Re: Mixed Up & Torn Down
« Reply #25 on: April 16, 2018, 10:05:42 »
Not as a "promo" for RSD, but rather the "official" release, you can hear the "Want" remix here:

http://craigjparker.blogspot.de/2018/04/want-time-mix-debuts-on-bbc-6.html

http://www.nme.com/news/music/cure-announced-details-new-mixed-torn-albums-want-remix-albums-tracklist-listen-2291686

https://www.udiscovermusic.com/news/cure-deluxe-mixed-robert-smith/
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Mixed Up’s genesis came from the band’s Disintegration album and its accompanying global Prayer Tour. Released in 1989, Disintegration had delivered a triumphant end to the 80s, but the first year of the 90s found The Cure unexpectedly unsettled.

Determined to keep up the momentum of the band’s ongoing success, but knowing there were internal tensions to address before heading back into the studio, Robert Smith decided on a different course of action; curating an album of the band’s rarer 12” mixes. As work on Mixed Up progressed, Smith realised that some of The Cure’s earlier remixes didn’t stand up to the newer ones.

Smith singles out Brian ‘Chuck’ New’s dub style remix of ‘Pictures Of You’ as the one that inspired him to take a more adventurous path. “That mix turned the music on its head, but at the same time left the essential heart of the song intact,” he says. “As soon as I heard it, I updated the entire Mixed Up plan. My revised ambition was to compile an album that was contemporary without being dated, immediate without being obvious, musically inspiring, rhythmically exciting and sonically great!”

Two tracks on the album, ‘A Forest’ and ‘The Walk’, were not just remixed but entirely re-recorded, as the multi-track tapes for both songs had long been lost. Both songs were reconstructed in the studio with producer Mark Saunders, using original instruments and gear.

The band convened over five days in June 1990 to record a new track for Mixed Up. After a certain amount of fraught experimenting with beats, loops and sequenced bass lines, Smith decided to change the vibe. A demo entitled PhaseAGE that had previously been deemed ‘too rock’ was committed to tape as ‘Never Enough’ and was released as a single in September 1990. The ‘Closer Mix’ of ‘Close To Me’ soon followed this and both songs were accompanied by customarily deranged Tim Pope videos.

With Mixed Up finally released, Smith felt he could at last move on, confident in a re-energised and re-integrated band. Reflecting on the period, he said: “The whole of 1990 was essentially spent emerging from the shadow of Disintegration, and we managed to do it in a creatively satisfying way; by the end of the year, I couldn’t wait to start work on new songs for the next record”.

Once the remaining 1981 to 1990 12” / extended mixes were compiled, Smith realised that there were too many for one CD and too few for two CD’s. His solution was to deliver an entire disc of brand new mixes – hence Torn Down Mixed Up Extras. “I wanted a 3-disc package, but we didn’t have enough ‘historic’ remixes – for a while I thought the ‘extra-extras’ CD would be Cure songs re-mixed by choice artists, rather than by choice re-mixers… that then got me thinking maybe I should have a go at one,” Smith says. “So in early August 2017, I decided to experiment with ‘Three Imaginary Boys’. It is a pretty sparse multi-track; I pulled it apart at home and finished the initial re-mix in one session – and I really enjoyed the whole process”.

By choosing favourite songs rather than the usual singles, one of Smith’s objectives was to illustrate the variety of the Cure catalogue, and by October of 2017 working on songs in chronological release order, he had remixed entirely the 16 songs that appear on Torn Down: Mixed Up Extras 2018.

For the Torn Down cover, Smith decided on a self-portrait painted in oils during the summer of 1990 which was originally intended as the sleeve for Mixed Up. He chose Torn Down as the title for the ‘extra-extras’ album inspired by the way he had “torn down” ‘Never Enough’, stripping the song back to resemble his original 1990 PhaseAGE demo. “I felt it was a good way to bring the project back full circle…in a Mixed Up kind of way” he says.
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Re: Mixed Up & Torn Down
« Reply #26 on: April 27, 2018, 16:06:14 »
Disturbs me that the Just Like Heaven Dizzy Mix is included again. Since its also present on Join the dots. Waste of good space for other things. By the way, both lovecats (Bunny mix) and Want (time mix) is now on Spotify hidden under Singles from 1990.

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Re: Mixed Up & Torn Down
« Reply #27 on: May 07, 2018, 13:00:30 »
I've heard the 'Bunny mix' of Lovecats and I don't like it, honestly.
I've also listened part of the 'Torn down' remixes and... erm...  :'( ...let's just say they're useless, IMHO.

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Re: Mixed Up & Torn Down
« Reply #28 on: May 07, 2018, 13:44:38 »
So far I only heard "Want" (Time mix) and thought it was better than expected!  :1f62e:

But I admit I was never really fond of remixes in general and found 98% of them pretty useless (and or boring/annoying)...
Which, you guessed it, is why I never bought "Mixed Up" and probably won't buy this re-issue + "Torn Down".  :1f633:
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Re: Mixed Up & Torn Down
« Reply #29 on: May 07, 2018, 13:57:10 »
Trust me, the 'Mixed up' remixes are much better than these new ones, and I do not like 'Mixed up', I even gave away the vinyl.