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The Cure returning to the Studio
« on: April 11, 2018, 21:24:50 »
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The Cure have booked studio time next month to demo new songs, Robert Smith says in a rare interview with BBC 6 Music. Smith says that curating this year’s Meltdown festival encouraged him to discover a wealth of new music, which became a “catalyst, because I’ve suddenly fallen in love with the idea of writing new songs.”

https://pitchfork.com/news/the-cure-returning-to-the-studio/


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Re: The Cure returning to the Studio
« Reply #1 on: April 11, 2018, 22:56:03 »
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The Cure have booked studio time next month to demo new songs, Robert Smith says in a rare interview with BBC 6 Music. Smith says that curating this year’s Meltdown festival encouraged him to discover a wealth of new music, which became a “catalyst, because I’ve suddenly fallen in love with the idea of writing new songs.”

https://pitchfork.com/news/the-cure-returning-to-the-studio/
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Re: The Cure returning to the Studio
« Reply #2 on: April 27, 2018, 15:59:17 »
How about a studio recording of ”it used to be the same”? I am all for it! No new song needed.

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Re: The Cure returning to the Studio
« Reply #3 on: April 28, 2018, 06:08:21 »
"The Cure have booked studio time next month to demo new songs, Robert Smith says in a rare interview with BBC 6 Music."

Jumping through the ceiling. YEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! <3 We can only imagine what cluster of melodies and lyrics are going to be their next production. I hope some happy stuff, some really unique and freeing guidance from Guru Bob.

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Re: The Cure returning to the Studio
« Reply #4 on: April 28, 2018, 10:04:55 »
Don't get your hopes up too high. In the same interview he said that if the demos won't work and they'll never be released, then "it doesn't really matter"...

Also, I myself would hope for some "typical" Cure music after 10 years with no new stuff: melancholy, dark, emotional and deep.
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Re: The Cure returning to the Studio
« Reply #5 on: May 31, 2018, 04:18:52 »
They'll demo new songs, play maybe one that is fine in the summer, and book 3months to record the new album in the autumn. Believe me. ^^

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Re: The Cure returning to the Studio
« Reply #6 on: May 31, 2018, 11:14:55 »
... book 3months to record the new album in the autumn.

Plus maybe more months later to "fine-tune" it, finish off the lyrics etc.! ;)
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Re: The Cure returning to the Studio
« Reply #7 on: June 01, 2018, 19:32:21 »
Well either it's a hope or intuition, but I've been imagining seeing a sunnier side of The Cure than ever, a transformed Robert living on the brighter side of life now. I LOVE the deeper, darker, melancholy songs, too, but for Robert and The Cure's sake (and all the fans) I'm hoping for some inspiration to spend more time in the Sun and great outdoors. I think evolution in any artist is important, showing the devotees how to find freedom. Lately I have been seeing Robert as a guru. I used to follow him like a guru, reading what he shared he loved to read, listening to what he loved to listen to. He's like a guru of creative inspiration, has inspired me to write, take pictures of the sea, and just look at the world through ambient, auric eyes.

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Re: The Cure returning to the Studio
« Reply #8 on: June 02, 2018, 10:16:42 »
I LOVE the deeper, darker, melancholy songs, too, but for Robert and The Cure's sake (and all the fans) I'm hoping for some inspiration to spend more time in the Sun and great outdoors.

Erm, to be honest I do not expect this from music. First of all: I myself prefer to listen to music indoors over the big speakers of my stereo, plus sometimes in my car. I don't use headphones, so you can imagine how rare it is for me to listen outdoors.
Don't get me wrong, I love to go outside, take a hike and so on. But it's hardly ever been a band which has inspired me to do so.
The Cure sadly has had the false image of "goth", like "not going out in the daylight", sit in a crypt all day etc. Fortunately I always knew that was wrong. As far as I know RS likes a good walk by the seaside. That might inspire us!

I think evolution in any artist is important

That's right. We might not even like how the music evolves, but I'm certain The Cure won't sound the same after 10 years without a new album. With Robert's 60th coming closer (next year), I could imagine him wanting a "typical" Cure album, like he did with "Disintegration" for his 30th and "Bloodflowers" around his 40th birthday.
I turned 20 when "Disintegration" was released and was around 30 with "Bloodflowers", so these records did resonate with me. Seeing I'll be 50 next year, well who knows...

has inspired me to write, take pictures of the sea...

That's the best thing, when an artist does inspire you to be creative yourself.  :cool
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Re: The Cure returning to the Studio
« Reply #9 on: June 10, 2018, 09:54:44 »
I think in his latest interview, Robert has given a few "clues"...

https://www.theguardian.com/music/2018/jun/07/the-cures-robert-smith-i-was-very-optimistic-when-i-was-young-now-im-the-opposite
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It has been a decade since the last Cure album, 4:13 Dream. “I’ve hardly written any words since then,” Smith says glumly. “I think there’s only so many times you can sing certain emotions. I have tried to write songs about something other than how I felt but they’re dry, they’re intellectual, and that’s not me.”

He has been revisiting old unused lyrics to see if he can repurpose any, but “some of them don’t make any sense to me any more. It would be weird if I felt the same as I did when I was in my 20s. I’d be mental!”

How has his outlook changed? “It’s slightly more cynical and slightly less optimistic, which is strange. I was very optimistic when I was young, even though I wrote very dismal songs, but now I’m kind of the opposite. I have a very dismal outlook on life.”

Will he write "optimistic" songs now? Well, you never know, but I doubt it...
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Re: The Cure returning to the Studio
« Reply #10 on: June 10, 2018, 20:24:05 »
Awwww, hopefully it was just his mood that day. Robert is experiencing his "Saturn Return" right now. It happened 30 years ago, around the time of Disintegration, in fact just before and during the release of Disintegration, so while Disintegration was being written and recorded, Saturn was in Capricorn. Robert's natal Saturn is at 7 degrees Capricorn, his Moon is at 5 degrees Libra, his Mercury is at 4 degrees Aries, and his Mars is at 6 degrees Cancer. Those are all the cardinal signs, the leader signs. Those aspects connote an artistic person who doesn't feel understood, a person who was born to traverse uncharted territory and be a leader. Robert was born with major challenges to overcome, and luckily he was born with a strong will, an Aries cusping Taurus Sun to face the challenges. Saturn in Capricorn is currently retrograde, but will move close to Robert's natal aspects around the end of this year, particularly November and December, which will be intense to say the very least, but depending on how Robert deals with very challenging transits, could be a breakthrough in his life, or could make him very depressed. I'm hoping it empowers him to break chains. By January, Saturn will move ahead creating a relief of tense aspects for Robert. Also, in November, Robert will have his Jupiter Return in Sagittarius, so will feel an optimistic support to his Moon in Libra at the end of this year and into 2019. Mars in Aquarius will offer some support to his Moon in Libra, to his Jupiter in Sagittarius, and then to his Sun in Aries/Taurus when Mars reaches the final degrees of Aquarius in mid-November. Remember that Robert has been through this transit before, only last time Jupiter was in Gemini, heightening love feelings. With Jupiter being in Scorpio currently, but transiting into Sag in November, Robert may feel a surge of optimism that produces some happier songs. :-)

However it all turns out, may our Robert Smith grow and find stable happiness. <3 <3 <3

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Re: The Cure returning to the Studio
« Reply #11 on: June 11, 2018, 11:59:01 »
Awwww, hopefully it was just his mood that day. Robert is experiencing his "Saturn Return" right now. It happened 30 years ago, around the time of Disintegration, in fact just before and during the release of Disintegration, so while Disintegration was being written and recorded, Saturn was in Capricorn.

Was it? I wouldn't know. Keep in mind that the first demos for "Disintegration" were recorded by RS in his "home studio" in April 1988 (a few can be heard on the "Disintegration" deluxe edition from 2010), band demos and recording happened later and the release was a whole year after the initial demos.

... around the end of this year, particularly November and December, which will be intense to say the very least, but depending on how Robert deals with very challenging transits... Also, in November, Robert will have his Jupiter Return in Sagittarius, so will feel an optimistic support to his Moon in Libra at the end of this year and into 2019.  Robert may feel a surge of optimism that produces some happier songs.

Possibly too late for the new album (presuming they will record it before then)?  :1f62e:

However it all turns out, may our Robert Smith grow and find stable happiness.

Well, whenever he felt "unhappy" at times, he turned it into a lot of good Cure songs, which pleased his fans and sold millions of records, so it was a "win-win" situation for all.
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Re: The Cure returning to the Studio
« Reply #12 on: June 12, 2018, 06:55:26 »
"Well, whenever he felt "unhappy" at times, he turned it into a lot of good Cure songs, which pleased his fans and sold millions of records, so it was a "win-win" situation for all."

I see your point, but I really don't think it's going to be good for him to write from an unhappy place at this point. He seems done in. A new album with good, unhappy songs is not worth a suicide from Robert Smith in my view. I'm hoping for a transformation in Robert, like a new look, a new outlook. If he keeps trying to play the old Robert Smith it's just going to be pathetic. Time for him to step into a healthier place in life. I've loved Robert since I was 14 years old and I love him like a husband, like a friend, like a father. His health is my number one concern.

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Re: The Cure returning to the Studio
« Reply #13 on: June 12, 2018, 10:35:07 »
A new album with good, unhappy songs is not worth a suicide from Robert Smith in my view.

I did not mention "suicide" with one word, did I?  :1f632:
That sort of "danger" has never really been there for him, in my opinion. (The only time, in my view, Robert was "ready to die for his art" was maybe around "Pornography"?)
In 1986, he told Creem magazine: "Ian Curtis was my generation's suicide. I didn't really want to follow in his footsteps". (Found in the book "Ten Imaginary Years", page 102.)

According to various interviews, Robert has almost never written any songs when he felt "happy", so we can guess he uses "songwriting" to get rid of his "demons" or in other words: to work up his melancholy/sadness or whatever it is that might fall upon him (as it does with many human beings, even if they do live a "happy life" in general). And working things up in a creative way is actually a healthy, positive thing! :cool

I'm hoping for a transformation in Robert, like a new look, a new outlook.

Yeah well, he mentioned his "new" outlook in above interview, didn't he?  :neutral-face
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How has his outlook changed? “It’s slightly more cynical and slightly less optimistic, which is strange. I was very optimistic when I was young..."
Strangely, he wrote these very "dark" songs when he was around 20-23. Which makes me think: the one thing does not necessarily have to do with the other, i.e. he was an optmistic young man, who wrote these sad songs (when he was in the mood for it). Nowadays, he may turn into a grumpy old man who writes optimistic songs - well, you never know, huh?  :D  :winking_tongue

If he keeps trying to play the old Robert Smith it's just going to be pathetic.

Once again, the recent interview gives a clue that he is not:
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"It would be weird if I felt the same as I did when I was in my 20s."
However, as we all know, he hasn't really changed his "style" (clothes, make-up) for public appearances with the band - seeing this has gone on for 35+ years now, I don't think he ever will! He's not David Bowie, who changed his "image" every so often! He wants to retain THE iconic "Robert Smith look" for his fans.

Time for him to step into a healthier place in life. I've loved Robert since I was 14 years old and I love him like a husband, like a friend, like a father. His health is my number one concern.

I know nothing at all about his health! He managed to do the 2016 tour with no known problems (apart from catching a cold), which to me sounds like he's in good shape. There's one person whose concern it should be: his wife, Mary. Does she cook for him (or does he for her)? I do not know...
So he's a little overweight maybe? I don't care. Actually I heard from the age of 45+ it is healthier to have a slight bit of overweight. (RS is 59, btw.)

I never said or thought he was "unhappy" in general. He lives a life with less "hassles" than most of us. Once again, the above interview suggests that one of very few "unpleasant" things in his life is doing interviews!
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When was the last time he did something he didn’t want to do? He points at my Dictaphone and laughs. “Sitting here.”
Sounds like a very happy life to me!  :cool
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Re: The Cure returning to the Studio
« Reply #14 on: June 12, 2018, 16:18:48 »
Awww, that's very reassuring. Ok, good. You remind me that Robert Smith is very sane. In terms of whether Mary cooks for him, Robert claimed that "to see you eat in the middle of the night" was about Mary cooking for him in the morning (which felt like the middle of the night to him); however, there was an article I read where Mary was hosting her nephew's birthday party and was too busy preparing to cook for him, so he had to go to a convenient store down the street to get frozen food to heat up at home, but when he got to the register, his credit card wasn't accepted. So maybe she cooks for him sometimes, but other times not? The most recent photo I saw of Mary (I think it's from 5 years ago) she looks radiantly healthy, as if she was actually being careful what she ate.

I wonder if all the drugs Robert did has affected his health? But I agree, he held up fabulously during the 2016 tour. He even made the comment in Chicago that he'd become balanced and was a wise old man now, but then followed that up with "Oh that's bollocks, you should see me on my off days."