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The Cure Live => Past shows => 2007/2008: 4Tour => Topic started by: erpomata on September 29, 2008, 10:45:29

Title: 2008.10.11 Roma - Piazza S. Giovanni 'Coca Cola MTV Live' (Italy)
Post by: erpomata on September 29, 2008, 10:45:29
The Cure will play in Roma piazza s giovanni next 11 oct Coca Cola MTV Live.

[setlist]

From COF

Setlist: Underneath The Stars, The Only One, The Reasons Why, Freakshow, Sirensong, The Real Snow White, The Hungry Ghost, Switch, The Perfect Boy, This. Here and Now. With You, Sleep When I'm Dead, The Scream, It's Over.
Robert: "Thank you, that was 4:13 Dream! See you in a second."

Encore: Lullaby, Fascination St., Wrong Number, The End of the World, The Walk, Lovesong, Friday I'm In Love, Inbetween Days, Just Like Heaven, Boys Don't Cry.

[event info]

http://www.coca-cola.it/mtv08/

**Free entrance**

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Title: Re: coca cola live
Post by: disintegration on September 29, 2008, 10:59:13
Very, very, very good!!!!!!
We go Marco!!!!  :smth020
Title: Re: The Cure to play in the Coca Cola MTV Live
Post by: dsanchez on September 29, 2008, 13:19:18
No info about The Cure yet

http://www.coca-cola.it/mtv08/

lets wait for this to be officialy confirmed...
Title: Re: The Cure to play in the Coca Cola MTV Live
Post by: Lady on September 29, 2008, 13:53:42
No info on mtv.it neither
Some rumors say that also Linkin Park will be there.... :roll:

Title: Re: The Cure to play in the Coca Cola MTV Live
Post by: [labyrinth] on September 29, 2008, 18:59:57
it's OFFICIAL:

http://www.mtv.it/tv/programmi/serie/dettaglio.asp?id_prog=229&id_epis=531

luckily,no Linkin Park!
Title: Re: The Cure to play in the Coca Cola MTV Live
Post by: Lady on September 29, 2008, 19:04:31
Quote from: [labyrinth] on September 29, 2008, 18:59:57
it's OFFICIAL:

http://www.mtv.it/tv/programmi/serie/dettaglio.asp?id_prog=229&id_epis=531

luckily,no Linkin Park!

I almost cry....I'm so happy!!!

Zero Assoluto?? No please!!!! :smth011
Title: Re: The Cure to play in the Coca Cola MTV Live
Post by: NeverForget on September 29, 2008, 19:41:38
I can't believe it!! I'm truly happy, so much that still I can't realize this IS actually happening!!

Unfortunately, we'll have to suffer a lot because of those bands before them... :-D

Everything for The Cure.
Title: 2008.10.11 Roma - Piazza S. Giovanni (Italy)
Post by: [labyrinth] on September 29, 2008, 19:55:16
it's official,
The Cure will play in Rome on October 11th,
likely, they will play the whole album before it gets released.

global airing is very likely to happen.

more info as they become official.
Title: Re: 2008.10.11 Rome - Piazza S. Giovanni
Post by: japanesebaby on September 29, 2008, 20:05:12
(@labyrinth: just edited the date to fit the year/month/day standard (like with other tour dates), nothing else).

they make it really hard for anyone to say anything about this in advance - sometimes playing the album does work, sometimes it doesn't... we'll see!
but it might be a good thing, especially if the album turns out to have a similar poor-ish sound as the singles: then we'd at least have something to choose from, as we'd have the option of listening the complete album played live. :)
besides at least to me so far the singles worked better live anyway.
so i guess i like the idea.

so, who's going? (don't look at me :-P)

Title: Re: 2008.10.11 Rome - Piazza S. Giovanni
Post by: [labyrinth] on September 29, 2008, 21:00:07
it seems

so far,

me, NeverForget, erpomata , disintegration , Lady , faith77

Title: Re: The Cure to play in the Coca Cola MTV Live
Post by: NeverForget on September 29, 2008, 21:10:01
Now Robert made it official for everyone!

http://www.thecure.com/default.asp (http://www.thecure.com/default.asp)
A 4:13 DREAM...

9/27/2008 6:31:14 PM - by CURE:ROBERT

PERFORMING THE NEW ALBUM LIVE FOR AN HOUR ON TV BEFORE IT GETS RELEASED...

CAN IT HAPPEN?

...YES IT CAN!
FREE
OPEN AIR
LIVE IN SOUTHERN EUROPE
DELAYED GLOBAL AIRING...

AND HERE IT IS

VIA THE MTV TRANSALTION DEPARTMENT...

THE CURE

JOHN LEGEND
ZERO ASSOLUTO
GIULIANO PALMA & THE BLUEBEATERS
MARRACASH
ANDRO.I.D FEAT DJ VIVAZ

TO PERFORM AT COCA-COLA LIVE@MTV 2008

Saturday October 11th at 6.30pm
a huge free live concert
In Piazza San Giovanni, Rome

On air live on Mtv Italia

Host: Carolina Di Domenico and Alessandro Cattelan

After five successful editions, Coca-Cola Live@Mtv, the most awaited Italian music event of 2008, comes back with the live music signed by Coca-Cola and Mtv Italia.

Coca-Cola Live@Mtv is the music project that brings the biggest Italian and International artists in Italy's most beautiful places since 2003. Now, it returns to Rome with an exceptional free live concert, broadcasted live on Mtv Italia, that will embrace thousands people to give them the best live music and an unforgettable show with pop icons such as The Cure, John Legend and many more.

The event will be held in Piazza San Giovanni on Saturday October 11th at 6.30 pm. The historical and suggestive square will become a huge, kaleidoscopic stage full of colors, sounds, and special effects, ready to brighten The Cure's and other artists live performances. Robert Smith's band is Headlining with a special exclusive set consisting of their entire new album '4:13 Dream' and followed by an encore of their big hits. This unique performance will be broadcast worldwide on Mtv.

The one day free festival also features the great American soul singer John Legend and local artists Zero Assoluto, Giuliano Palma & The Bluebeaters, Marracash and dj Andro.i.d. feat dj Vivaz. Legend, with his elegant and old fashion style that puts together the pathos of old school soul with the sharp and modern hip hop and r&b sounds, will present his latest album 'Evolver' including the internationally acclaimed hit single 'Green Light'.

All infos on Coca-Cola Live@Mtv are available on www.mtv.it/cocacolalive and on www.coca-cola.it .
Title: Re: The Cure to play in the Coca Cola MTV Live
Post by: maccatori on September 29, 2008, 22:55:44
Booking my flights in the morning.
Hopefully be a long encore(s).
Title: Re: 2008.10.11 Rome - Piazza S. Giovanni
Post by: maccatori on September 29, 2008, 22:56:50
Add me to the list!!
Title: Re: 2008.10.11 Roma - Piazza S. Giovanni (Italy)
Post by: the cure ultras palermo on September 29, 2008, 23:48:35
a stò giro mi sà che non ce la faccio....spero comunque che facciano "all kinds the stuff" e "underneath the stars"
Title: Re: 2008.10.11 Roma - Piazza S. Giovanni (Italy)
Post by: punx_chix on September 30, 2008, 00:33:20
update from robert...

THE REASONS WHY?
9/29/2008 2:20:56 PM - by CURE:ROBERT

THIS MTV SHOW JUST CAME UP OUT OF NOWHERE
WE WERENT INTENDING PLAYING AGAIN FOR A WHILE
BUT WE WERE OFFERED THIS HEADLINE SPOT
IN THE WAY WE SOMETIMES ARE
AND HAD THE IDEA OF PREMIERING THE NEW ALBUM LIVE IN ROME...

QUITE AMBITIOUS...
AND QUITE EXCITING!

MTV HAVE AGREED TO AIR AT LEAST A CUT DOWN VERSION (AN MTV HOUR IS ONLY 45 MINUTES OR SO AND THE ALBUM IS 53+) ON EVERY MTV EUROPEAN STATION - HOPEFULLY WITHIN A WEEK OF THE EVENT - AT THE LATEST BEFORE NOVEMBER ENDS - AND IT WILL BE BROADCAST IN THE USA TOO*...

OH
AND YOU EVER KNOW
IT MIGHT MAKE ITS WAY ONTO YOUTUBE?!!

HA...

*MORE NEWS HERE WHEN I CAN CONFIRM THE DETAILS

BETTER START REHEARSING NOW...
RSX

PS
THE 2ND HOUR (?ENCORE?!!) WILL LIKELY BE A WALK DOWN MEMORY LANE... AND MAYBE VH1 CLASSIC MIGHT SHOW IT IF WE DONT PLAY ANY B-SIDES?!!

ONWARDS...

Title: Re: 2008.10.11 Roma - Piazza S. Giovanni (Italy)
Post by: j on September 30, 2008, 04:10:52
I got permission to go from the wife.....until we both realized that we have a family party at our house that same day, with over 100 people coming  :shock:

Why couldn't it be the following weekend? :smth100
Title: Re: 2008.10.11 Roma - Piazza S. Giovanni (Italy)
Post by: nausearockpig on September 30, 2008, 04:35:04
J: time to send out 100 reschedule notifications!!!
Title: Re: 2008.10.11 Roma - Piazza S. Giovanni (Italy)
Post by: soulmate on September 30, 2008, 06:26:06
Really wish I could be there... But no money and no time off...  :cry:
Title: Re: 2008.10.11 Roma - Piazza S. Giovanni (Italy)
Post by: iwannashagsimon on September 30, 2008, 06:34:21
There is no way I can attend. :(

Hope everyone who is going has a great time.  Maybe I'll see you all on MTV! :-D
Title: Re: 2008.10.11 Roma - Piazza S. Giovanni (Italy)
Post by: monghi on September 30, 2008, 07:03:22
heh... it looks like we´re going there!!! From Slovakia to Roma.. 1200 km by car...  :-D
Title: Re: 2008.10.11 Roma - Piazza S. Giovanni (Italy)
Post by: Lady on September 30, 2008, 08:49:21
We could take a curefans.com t-shirt to show on mtv.... ;) :roll:

Anyway don't worry guys: my camera is ready....there will be new pictures in the gallery soon... :smth023
Title: Re: 2008.10.11 Roma - Piazza S. Giovanni (Italy)
Post by: crowbi_wan on September 30, 2008, 08:58:58
Quote from: Lady on September 30, 2008, 08:49:21
We could take a curefans.com t-shirt to show on mtv.... ;) :roll:

:smth023

Quote from: Lady on September 30, 2008, 08:49:21
Anyway don't worry guys: my camera is ready....there will be new pictures in the gallery soon... :smth023

And maybe some video, too? It's highly unlikely the encores will be aired.  I suppose youtube videos will have to do.
Title: Re: 2008.10.11 Roma - Piazza S. Giovanni (Italy)
Post by: Lady on September 30, 2008, 09:13:18
Quote from: crowbi_wan on September 30, 2008, 08:58:58
Quote from: Lady on September 30, 2008, 08:49:21
We could take a curefans.com t-shirt to show on mtv.... ;) :roll:

:smth023

Quote from: Lady on September 30, 2008, 08:49:21
Anyway don't worry guys: my camera is ready....there will be new pictures in the gallery soon... :smth023

And maybe some video, too? It's highly unlikely the encores will be aired.  I suppose youtube videos will have to do.
I can do just short videos (not entire songs) with my camera but yes of course!! I think I'll make some video, too! ;)
Title: Re: 2008.10.11 Roma - Piazza S. Giovanni (Italy)
Post by: dsanchez on September 30, 2008, 09:38:07
Quote from: nausearockpig on September 30, 2008, 04:35:04
J: time to send out 100 reschedule notifications!!!

:lol:
Title: Re: 2008.10.11 Roma - Piazza S. Giovanni (Italy)
Post by: japanesebaby on September 30, 2008, 09:52:37
Quote from: nausearockpig on September 30, 2008, 04:35:04
J: time to send out 100 reschedule notifications!!!

oh yes, i think it's still a lot easier than persuading the mighty MTV & the mighty coca cola company to reschedule their event (which is what you need to do now :P).

;)
Title: Re: 2008.10.11 Roma - Piazza S. Giovanni (Italy)
Post by: disintegration on September 30, 2008, 11:07:35
I'm very excited, Thank you Robert!
Title: Re: 2008.10.11 Roma - Piazza S. Giovanni (Italy)
Post by: nausearockpig on September 30, 2008, 11:42:45
I can't wait to see this.. Now I gotta work out what time this is in Oz and how to record it!!! any tips on recording a stream will be much appreciated! Yes I know, the Google will help....
Title: Re: 2008.10.11 Roma - Piazza S. Giovanni (Italy)
Post by: gioez on September 30, 2008, 16:14:14
See you there guys!  ;)
Title: Re: 2008.10.11 Roma - Piazza S. Giovanni (Italy)
Post by: revolt on September 30, 2008, 17:20:28
Well, it will be an opportunity to check the new songs before the album comes out...

However, seeing The Cure associated with the coca cola company isn't something that leaves me confortable.  :roll:
Title: Re: 2008.10.11 Roma - Piazza S. Giovanni (Italy)
Post by: figurehead on September 30, 2008, 18:39:57
Will it be a free concert or do i need to find a ticket from somewhere?
Also this square is it a big one?
I mean we will at least be around 10.000 people,right?
Title: Re: 2008.10.11 Roma - Piazza S. Giovanni (Italy)
Post by: sullen on September 30, 2008, 22:38:20
Quote from: figurehead on September 30, 2008, 18:39:57
Will it be a free concert or do i need to find a ticket from somewhere?


This is what I want to know.....
It is supposedly free, yes, got that much.

But do you need a ticket, or anything at all, for entry?
Title: Re: 2008.10.11 Roma - Piazza S. Giovanni (Italy)
Post by: dsanchez on September 30, 2008, 22:54:08
Quote from: sullen on September 30, 2008, 22:38:20
But do you need a ticket, or anything at all, for entry?

Free entrance. You just go and that's all. No ticket needed. At least, in the event website is nothing about that, just it's written "free entrance".
Title: Re: 2008.10.11 Roma - Piazza S. Giovanni (Italy)
Post by: NeverForget on September 30, 2008, 23:01:32
Quote from: dsanchez on September 30, 2008, 22:54:08
Quote from: sullen on September 30, 2008, 22:38:20
But do you need a ticket, or anything at all, for entry?

Free entrance. You just go and that's all. No ticket needed. At least, in the event website is nothing about that, just it's written "free entrance".
Correct, free entrance. Don't buy anything pretending to be a ticket, it is certanly a fraud.

I'd put on a Curefans t-shirt, but unfortunately I still don't have that and don't know if it's still possible to have it or if it would arrive on time... :(
Title: Re: 2008.10.11 Roma - Piazza S. Giovanni (Italy)
Post by: dsanchez on September 30, 2008, 23:03:57
Quote from: NeverForget on September 30, 2008, 23:01:32
I'd put on a Curefans t-shirt, but unfortunately I still don't have that and don't know if it's still possible to have it or if it would arrive on time...

Sent you a PM...
Title: Re: 2008.10.11 Roma - Piazza S. Giovanni (Italy)
Post by: NeverForget on September 30, 2008, 23:11:42
Quote from: dsanchez on September 30, 2008, 23:03:57
Quote from: NeverForget on September 30, 2008, 23:01:32
I'd put on a Curefans t-shirt, but unfortunately I still don't have that and don't know if it's still possible to have it or if it would arrive on time...

Sent you a PM...

Thank you David, you're so kind! :D
Title: Re: 2008.10.11 Roma - Piazza S. Giovanni (Italy)
Post by: Giuseppe Eisonhawk on October 01, 2008, 01:03:50
Quote from: Robert on September 30, 2008, 08:49:21
PS - THE 2ND HOUR (?ENCORE?!!) WILL LIKELY BE A WALK DOWN MEMORY LANE... AND MAYBE VH1 CLASSIC MIGHT SHOW IT IF WE DONT PLAY ANY B-SIDES?!!

ONWARDS...

Robert makes me laugh so funny most times!
Y'all have so much fun!
Title: Re: 2008.10.11 Roma - Piazza S. Giovanni (Italy)
Post by: j on October 01, 2008, 02:40:25
Quote from: nausearockpig on September 30, 2008, 04:35:04
J: time to send out 100 reschedule notifications!!!

I wish....this is already the rescheduled date from this past weekend (we had 4 days straight of rain!)
Title: Re: 2008.10.11 Roma - Piazza S. Giovanni (Italy)
Post by: nausearockpig on October 01, 2008, 02:42:51
ah then your guests should be used to your constant juggling of dates!!!
Title: Re: 2008.10.11 Roma - Piazza S. Giovanni (Italy)
Post by: drowning on October 01, 2008, 07:53:42
so i couldn´t see any shows this year, becuase of my fight against cancer.

yesterday i have been reading rome, the cure, free entrance, live,.......

what should i say ?

i HAVE to be there. it was one of my wishes ( what should i do before i die ) and in front there was "1. see the cure live as often as i can".

and i thought in february, when i was in hospital and reading the live coverage, i would never see the cure live again.
So, do anybody know a hotel near that place ?
is my 2 year old son allowed to be there ??????

or does anybody knows a babysitter ( apart of the cure ) for my son ?

i can´t wait to be in roma
Title: Re: 2008.10.11 Roma - Piazza S. Giovanni (Italy)
Post by: nausearockpig on October 01, 2008, 08:15:36
good luck getting there drowning..
Title: Re: 2008.10.11 Roma - Piazza S. Giovanni (Italy)
Post by: erpomata on October 01, 2008, 09:19:58
Quote from: figurehead on September 30, 2008, 18:39:57
Will it be a free concert or do i need to find a ticket from somewhere?
Also this square is it a big one?
I mean we will at least be around 10.000 people,right?


i was born in Roma, and lived for my first ten years, 500 m from s giovanni!
the piazza is used for huge political meetings, or for funerals of important italian people, or for a concert on 1 may every year. it's almost in center of Roma, 3 underground stops from central station, and someone calculated that it can allow around 1.000.000 people! i don't think so, but for a funeral of a politician in 1984 there were around 700.000...it's history! so 100.000 will be comfortable, be sure! it will be free, because it's impossible to put tickets and control entrance!
Title: Re: 2008.10.11 Roma - Piazza S. Giovanni (Italy)
Post by: erpomata on October 01, 2008, 09:24:30
http://www.viamichelin.com/viamichelin/ita/dyn/controller/Cartes?strCountry=EUR&strAddress=san+giovanni&strMerged=roma&ie=UTF-8&x=0&y=0

see it as a foto.

i lived in via cesena!!!
Title: Re: 2008.10.11 Roma - Piazza S. Giovanni (Italy)
Post by: dsanchez on October 01, 2008, 13:50:00
Quote from: drowning on October 01, 2008, 07:53:42
So, do anybody know a hotel near that place ?
is my 2 year old son allowed to be there ??????
or does anybody knows a babysitter ( apart of the cure ) for my son ?
i can´t wait to be in roma

we have many italian members here at curefans.com, hope someone can help you with that Drowning!
Title: Re: 2008.10.11 Roma - Piazza S. Giovanni 'Coca Cola MTV Live' (Italy)
Post by: Tof on October 01, 2008, 14:33:29
YES !!

Please Italian fans, help drowning !!!

Title: Re: 2008.10.11 Roma - Piazza S. Giovanni 'Coca Cola MTV Live' (Italy)
Post by: erpomata on October 01, 2008, 14:53:24
http://www.nycerome.com/alberghi-per-posizione/hotel-san-giovanni-roma.html

http://www.romaexplorer.it/roma/hotel_roma/hotel_appio_san_giovanni.htm


here you can find some hotels near s. giovanni. hotels in roma are not so cheap, anyway  :cry:

i don't know if these hotels are good, never been in a hotel in Roma  :-D
if you choose one, feel free to ask me info about the distance to the venue, or public transport...or where to eat amatriciana and carbonara  :smth023
marco
Title: Re: 2008.10.11 Roma - Piazza S. Giovanni 'Coca Cola MTV Live' (Italy)
Post by: Tof on October 01, 2008, 15:27:17
Nobody can offer a bed in his home to this man who fight against cancer during the 4 tour ???

:roll:


:oops:
Title: Re: 2008.10.11 Roma - Piazza S. Giovanni 'Coca Cola MTV Live' (Italy)
Post by: kissingcrimson on October 01, 2008, 15:57:29
this seems like a one off opportunity, Can't wait to hear/see all about it, I imagine it will be really great, and to all those going make the most of it!

I really hope you can make it, it's always great to have curefans support :)

nice info erpomata cheers
Title: Re: 2008.10.11 Roma - Piazza S. Giovanni 'Coca Cola MTV Live' (Italy)
Post by: terry on October 01, 2008, 17:46:50
http://www.bed-and-breakfast.it/citta_zona.cfm?citta=Roma&zona=San%20Giovanni&IDregione=7
Title: Re: 2008.10.11 Roma - Piazza S. Giovanni 'Coca Cola MTV Live' (Italy)
Post by: terry on October 01, 2008, 17:49:25
Quote from: erpomata on October 01, 2008, 14:53:24
http://www.nycerome.com/alberghi-per-posizione/hotel-san-giovanni-roma.html

http://www.romaexplorer.it/roma/hotel_roma/hotel_appio_san_giovanni.htm


here you can find some hotels near s. giovanni. hotels in roma are not so cheap, anyway  :cry:

i don't know if these hotels are good, never been in a hotel in Roma  :-D
if you choose one, feel free to ask me info about the distance to the venue, or public transport...or where to eat amatriciana and carbonara  :smth023
marco
there is a nice restaurant near the place where we and Steve had the lunch the day of the Rome gig in february....100 meters hide in the streets near the place
Title: Re: 2008.10.11 Roma - Piazza S. Giovanni 'Coca Cola MTV Live' (Italy)
Post by: Lady on October 02, 2008, 00:05:30
So these are the fans who will be there:  :-D

Lady
disintegration
faith77
erpomata
[labyrinth]
NeverForget
gioez
monghi
drowning
maccatori
...

Anyone else?? :roll:
Title: Re: 2008.10.11 Roma - Piazza S. Giovanni 'Coca Cola MTV Live' (Italy)
Post by: nausearockpig on October 02, 2008, 00:59:59
and who is TAPING?
Title: Re: 2008.10.11 Roma - Piazza S. Giovanni 'Coca Cola MTV Live' (Italy)
Post by: Lady on October 02, 2008, 12:04:29
Imho the fans who live not so far away from italy should find the way for coming...this event is very important and for free; the performances of "the only one" or "freakshow" could become a sort of new videos of these singles, as it happened for "the end of the world" in 2004 and you could say "I was there!" :smth023
Title: Re: 2008.10.11 Roma - Piazza S. Giovanni 'Coca Cola MTV Live' (Italy)
Post by: dsanchez on October 02, 2008, 15:07:53
Quote from: nausearockpig on October 02, 2008, 00:59:59
and who is TAPING?

by the way, if anyone want to give live reports please send me a pm. You dont need to send a live report by each song, you can do it twice in the whole concert and that will be fine. help will be aprecciated!
Title: Re: 2008.10.11 Roma - Piazza S. Giovanni 'Coca Cola MTV Live' (Italy)
Post by: temptation-cure on October 02, 2008, 18:07:00
soo cool can't wait to hear them live again i mean at least to watch them on tv but they will play the whole new album thats the best i think or something like that

cheers
Title: Re: 2008.10.11 Roma - Piazza S. Giovanni 'Coca Cola MTV Live' (Italy)
Post by: BB on October 02, 2008, 20:08:42
Flights and hotel booked !!!! roll on the 11th !!!! Cant wait ! :lol: :-D
Title: Re: 2008.10.11 Roma - Piazza S. Giovanni (Italy)
Post by: japanesebaby on October 03, 2008, 00:28:40
Quote from: revolt on September 30, 2008, 17:20:28
However, seeing The Cure associated with the coca cola company isn't something that leaves me confortable.  :roll:

only that they are already coca cola veterans: http://www.cure-concerts.de/concerts/2004-06-23.php
Title: Re: 2008.10.11 Roma - Piazza S. Giovanni 'Coca Cola MTV Live' (Italy)
Post by: nausearockpig on October 03, 2008, 06:37:36
Quote from: japanesebaby on October 03, 2008, 00:28:40
Quote from: revolt on September 30, 2008, 17:20:28
However, seeing The Cure associated with the coca cola company isn't something that leaves me confortable.  :roll:

only that they are already coca cola veterans: http://www.cure-concerts.de/concerts/2004-06-23.php


They, like the rest of us to one degree or another, are corporate whores.. Or alternatively they see this as a vehicle to send out their renditions of these new songs for their fans in the most widespread way possible...

i love them.
Title: Re: 2008.10.11 Roma - Piazza S. Giovanni 'Coca Cola MTV Live' (Italy)
Post by: erpomata on October 03, 2008, 13:16:18
Quote from: nausearockpig on October 02, 2008, 00:59:59
and who is TAPING?

hey, maybe a friend of mine...
Title: Re: 2008.10.11 Roma - Piazza S. Giovanni 'Coca Cola MTV Live' (Italy)
Post by: takaros72 on October 03, 2008, 15:06:18
im from athens greece ....but i will be there......
i cant wait......
Title: Re: 2008.10.11 Roma - Piazza S. Giovanni 'Coca Cola MTV Live' (Italy)
Post by: kissingcrimson on October 03, 2008, 16:48:22
happy for you takaros! If i was still in Greece I'd
be trying to be there too :)

not so far

Have fun!
Title: Re: 2008.10.11 Roma - Piazza S. Giovanni 'Coca Cola MTV Live' (Italy)
Post by: takaros72 on October 03, 2008, 18:11:06
thank you crimson......

i think we have meeting to r.a.h 2006 ?
Title: Re: 2008.10.11 Roma - Piazza S. Giovanni 'Coca Cola MTV Live' (Italy)
Post by: takaros72 on October 03, 2008, 18:19:13
and you know what ?

i dont care about distance......im never care about that....

im starting 1996 to going for cure trips outside from my country...

i like it....

i cant wait.........
Title: Re: 2008.10.11 Roma - Piazza S. Giovanni 'Coca Cola MTV Live' (Italy)
Post by: kissingcrimson on October 04, 2008, 01:39:02
I'm sure Figie (the figurehead) was at RAH in 2006 also (but not me..no I didn't go) He has been travelling from Gr to see Cure around EUrope too.

I think it's fantastic to be able to support the band!

To everyone going to Roma enjoy have fun and share with us your live experiences as always :)
Title: Re: 2008.10.11 Roma - Piazza S. Giovanni 'Coca Cola MTV Live' (Italy)
Post by: takaros72 on October 04, 2008, 13:19:52
I AGREE KISSINGCRIMSON.........THANKS AGAIN.....
Title: Re: 2008.10.11 Roma - Piazza S. Giovanni 'Coca Cola MTV Live' (Italy)
Post by: curewish on October 04, 2008, 18:19:08
wow....the Cure again in my Rome....
i'm really dreaming!!!
can't wait...i'm so excited!!
See you there CUREFANS!!!!!!!!!!!! :D
Title: Re: 2008.10.11 Roma - Piazza S. Giovanni 'Coca Cola MTV Live' (Italy)
Post by: takaros72 on October 04, 2008, 18:32:43
i was with the Figie to r.a.h 2006.

we have some views on the dvd of this concert.

we talk about came together in rome but he cant.....
Title: Re: 2008.10.11 Roma - Piazza S. Giovanni 'Coca Cola MTV Live' (Italy)
Post by: Tof on October 07, 2008, 14:20:34
MTV italia ... if someone can record it !!! Thanks  :smth023

http://www.mtv.it/tv/palinsesto/index.asp

19.30 - 20.00 - COCA-COLA LIVE

Torna uno degli eventi musicali più attesi dell'anno! Un appuntamento esclusico ad ingresso gratuito con i tuoi artisti preferiti e con i nuovi talenti musicali.

20.00 - 00.00 - COCA-COLA LIVE

Un grande concerto gratuito da Piazza San Giovanni a Roma. Sul palco: John Legend, Zero Assoluto, Giuliano Palma & The Bluebeaters e Marracash.

00.00 - 00.30 - COCA-COLA LIVE

Un grande concerto gratuito da Piazza San Giovanni a Roma. Sul palco: John Legend, Zero Assoluto, Giuliano Palma & The Bluebeaters e Marracash.
Title: Re: 2008.10.11 Roma - Piazza S. Giovanni 'Coca Cola MTV Live' (Italy)
Post by: Lady on October 07, 2008, 16:54:51
Quote from: Tof on October 07, 2008, 14:20:34
John Legend, Zero Assoluto, Giuliano Palma & The Bluebeaters e Marracash.
They forgot someone.... :lol:
Title: Re: 2008.10.11 Roma - Piazza S. Giovanni 'Coca Cola MTV Live' (Italy)
Post by: japanesebaby on October 07, 2008, 20:26:03
Quote from: Lady on October 07, 2008, 16:54:51
Quote from: Tof on October 07, 2008, 14:20:34
John Legend, Zero Assoluto, Giuliano Palma & The Bluebeaters e Marracash.
They forgot someone.... :lol:

:lol:

L'evento, in onda su MTV sabato 11 ottobre in diretta dalle 19.30, vedrà esibirsi sul palco quanto di meglio possa offrire il panorama musicale internazionale, a iniziare dai The Cure!

(http://www.mtv.it/img/book/38812_img.jpg)
Title: Re: 2008.10.11 Roma - Piazza S. Giovanni 'Coca Cola MTV Live' (Italy)
Post by: forever cure on October 07, 2008, 22:57:06
Have fun at the concert, I cant be there.
But anyway also remember to vote for the cure as headliner for the mtv european music awards.
Vote as much as you can, I know i do!!!!!

http://ema.mtv.co.uk/vote/#__headliner (http://ema.mtv.co.uk/vote/#__headliner)

Anyway please keep us poor bastards informed on the Roma gig :smth023

Kind regards
Peter
Title: 'this dream never ends...'
Post by: figurehead on October 09, 2008, 18:04:31
Unfortunately i won't be able to be there...
So i would like to wish to all of you for having a great time with the new songs from our boys!
Drink & dance some more for me if possible!
Title: Re: 2008.10.11 Roma - Piazza S. Giovanni 'Coca Cola MTV Live' (Italy)
Post by: monghi on October 10, 2008, 22:33:21
from COF:

Rome soundcheck
The Cure have made it safely to Rome, and are doing a soundcheck. They have played Fascination St., The Walk, Friday I'm In Love, Lullaby, Wrong Number, and all of 4:13 Dream!
Title: Re: 2008.10.11 Roma - Piazza S. Giovanni 'Coca Cola MTV Live' (Italy)
Post by: maccatori on October 11, 2008, 00:17:23
Taxi booked for 3.30am for the airport. Early start, but gonna be worth it I think. Bring on 'Underneath the stars'!
Title: Re: 2008.10.11 Roma - Piazza S. Giovanni 'Coca Cola MTV Live' (Italy)
Post by: drowning on October 11, 2008, 09:24:33
looks like NO cure show for me 2007/2008
after fighting against cancer during the 4 tour in hospital i was soooo happy as i heard, the cure will play rome. i booked the hotel, and i was looking forward for the concert. ( first cure concert for my son- 2 years old)

i was lucky until yesterday. my wife had a car accident. no one was injuried, but the car is not working anymore.

so no cure in rome for me.

this is not my cure-year :-(

wish you good fun, and enjoy listening to the cure, if you have the chance too.

a very sad
drowning
Title: Re: 2008.10.11 Roma - Piazza S. Giovanni 'Coca Cola MTV Live' (Italy)
Post by: japanesebaby on October 11, 2008, 09:46:22
Quote from: drowning on October 11, 2008, 09:24:33
i was lucky until yesterday. my wife had a car accident. no one was injuried, but the car is not working anymore.

so no cure in rome for me.

this is not my cure-year :-(

sorry to hear such bad news. :(
no chance to travel to rome by train/plane then?
in that case let's hope there'll be more shows coming up soon and that that time the stars will be perfectly aligned for you.
but it must be disappointing, i can believe it (luckily noone was injured in the accident though.)





sme soundcheck videos (links from COF):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uNUkB_w6g4A&fmt=18

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gC4YUvBUYc4&fmt=18

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HG5IED7FYis&fmt=18
Title: Re: 2008.10.11 Roma - Piazza S. Giovanni 'Coca Cola MTV Live' (Italy)
Post by: kissingcrimson on October 11, 2008, 10:24:40
thanks Japanesebaby

Yay! Yay! so how many hours are there to go until it starts? I'm trying to figure out so I can be online while it's happening for all the updates :)
getting mixed up with the time difference here in Australia.

Title: Re: 2008.10.11 Roma - Piazza S. Giovanni 'Coca Cola MTV Live' (Italy)
Post by: soulmate on October 11, 2008, 12:41:30
To everyone being lucky enough to be in Rome tonight: have a great show  :smth020 and enjoy it for us poor people who have to stay home!!!
And don't forget to tell us all about it of course ;)
Title: Re: 2008.10.11 Roma - Piazza S. Giovanni 'Coca Cola MTV Live' (Italy)
Post by: dsanchez on October 11, 2008, 13:23:52
Quote from: drowning on October 11, 2008, 09:24:33
i was lucky until yesterday. my wife had a car accident. no one was injuried, but the car is not working anymore.

those are bad news drowning. however, keep in mind that the boys will likely tour next year again, and i am pretty sure you will make it there. keep the faith...
Title: Re: 2008.10.11 Roma - Piazza S. Giovanni 'Coca Cola MTV Live' (Italy)
Post by: dsanchez on October 11, 2008, 18:56:12
just spoke to [labyrinth] on the phone, seems he's not that far from the stage. not sure if he will be able to send some sms, thought. let's wait.
Title: Re: 2008.10.11 Roma - Piazza S. Giovanni 'Coca Cola MTV Live' (Italy)
Post by: Darth_Blood on October 11, 2008, 19:40:11
there will be a webcast????
Title: Re: 2008.10.11 Roma - Piazza S. Giovanni 'Coca Cola MTV Live' (Italy)
Post by: dsanchez on October 11, 2008, 20:01:30
No webcast, but we will update with news and pics as soon as they come :smth023
Title: Re: 2008.10.11 Roma - Piazza S. Giovanni 'Coca Cola MTV Live' (Italy)
Post by: Darth_Blood on October 11, 2008, 22:25:56
this is from COF blog


Pietro (5:30pm): Still waiting for the doors to open...Luckily the sun is now behind the buildings; man was it HOT an hour ago!!
Pietro (6:07pm): We're in, but there's only been the first support band, some Italian rapper who was booed off of the stage.
Pietro (7:37pm): The MTV Italy live broadcast has begun.
Pietro(8:02pm): VJ just said that The Cure are scheduled for 11pm.Three more hours...Aargh!!!
Olivier(8:14pm): For now we're enjoying horrible crap music (I didn't say Italian) but it will be worth the wait!

Olivier(9:16pm): RS is being interviewed right now. Said this is the only time they would be playing the whole album live. The second hour will be a very long "greatest hits" encore. "I never ever had writers block!" The new album was recorded as a double, of which 4:13 Dream will be the first part. The second part will be a "dark" album.

Pietro (9:22pm): Robert said the encore would be rather short due to curfew, they had hoped to play longer.
Title: Re: 2008.10.11 Roma - Piazza S. Giovanni 'Coca Cola MTV Live' (Italy)
Post by: Darth_Blood on October 11, 2008, 22:27:48
Again the DOUBLR ALBUM mention
Title: Re: 2008.10.11 Roma - Piazza S. Giovanni 'Coca Cola MTV Live' (Italy)
Post by: Darth_Blood on October 11, 2008, 22:51:57
Pietro (10:43): The last support act has finished on the 2nd stage. Main stage is now ready for The Cure.
Title: the waves
Post by: figurehead on October 11, 2008, 22:54:18
 ~ ~ ~
~ ~ ~
~ ~ ~

Title: Re: 2008.10.11 Roma - Piazza S. Giovanni 'Coca Cola MTV Live' (Italy)
Post by: Darth_Blood on October 11, 2008, 23:27:53
from COF


Pietro (11:08): UTS is...Wow!! Only One is as usual, Porl's guitar is unusually low.
Pietro (11:21): Sirensong is on an acoustic, reminds me of Jupiter Crash. Porl is playing a strange instrument, seems like a keyboard, but is not.

Title: Re: 2008.10.11 Roma - Piazza S. Giovanni 'Coca Cola MTV Live' (Italy)
Post by: Druide on October 12, 2008, 00:48:09
Setlist: Underneath The Stars, The Only One, The Reasons Why, Freakshow, Sirensong, The Real Snow White, The Hungry Ghost, Switch, The Perfect Boy, This. Here and Now. With You, Sleep When I'm Dead, The Scream, It's Over.
Robert: "Thank you, that was 4:13 Dream! See you in a second."

Encore: Lullaby, Fascination St., Wrong Number, The End of the World, The Walk, Lovesong, Friday I'm In Love, Inbetween Days, Just Like Heaven, Boys Don't Cry.

Robert: "See you again soon"

Show was 1 hour 42 minutes.

8)
Title: Re: 2008.10.11 Roma - Piazza S. Giovanni 'Coca Cola MTV Live' (Italy)
Post by: Pierrig on October 12, 2008, 03:12:32
Underneath The Stars

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=O6K4K7khCVU (http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=O6K4K7khCVU)

The Reasons Why (end)

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=nr5DwHJiO0k (http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=nr5DwHJiO0k)
Title: Re: 2008.10.11 Roma - Piazza S. Giovanni 'Coca Cola MTV Live' (Italy)
Post by: patitodark on October 12, 2008, 04:56:11
This guy is uploading the songs:

http://www.youtube.com/user/Mark8610

:smth023
Title: Re: 2008.10.11 Roma - Piazza S. Giovanni 'Coca Cola MTV Live' (Italy)
Post by: disintegration on October 12, 2008, 11:16:15
Very great experience, thank you Robert!!!
It was very hard to waith for them and listening to all those f*cked band!  :twisted:
I appreciated rather new songs, Robert is fantastic, a beautiful gift for italian fans!!!  :D :rocker
Lady and me are going to upload our pics! ;)
Title: Re: 2008.10.11 Roma - Piazza S. Giovanni 'Coca Cola MTV Live' (Italy)
Post by: soulmate on October 12, 2008, 11:20:20
Thanks for these links!!! Can't watch it right now though, I'm at my parents' and the connexion is so bad that I can't do anything!!! Can't wait to be back home tonight to enjoy it!  :smth020
Title: Re: 2008.10.11 Roma - Piazza S. Giovanni 'Coca Cola MTV Live' (Italy)
Post by: The Loudest Cure on October 12, 2008, 11:45:08

:D

Thanks for the links!!! great to see the band on stage again!! :smth020

:smth060
Title: Re: 2008.10.11 Roma - Piazza S. Giovanni 'Coca Cola MTV Live' (Italy)
Post by: dsanchez on October 12, 2008, 11:59:04
Quote from: disintegration on October 12, 2008, 11:16:15
Lady and me are going to upload our pics! ;)

We're really looking forward to it. Thanks! :smth023
Title: Re: 2008.10.11 Roma - Piazza S. Giovanni 'Coca Cola MTV Live' (Italy)
Post by: Lady on October 12, 2008, 12:16:18
Here are the pics  ;)

http://curefans.com/index.php/v/live/2008/cocacola/?action=gallery&g2_page=2

I was there...once again in the front row and right in front of Robert!!! :smth050
It was a long and hard wait, 'cos we were forced to listen to all those horrible artists and then there were many "barbarous" not-fan people (when the gates were opened everyone started to push and I lost disintegration, I found him later but he stayed some row behind me  :()
Anyway the performance was amazing and full of energy , I think Robert was "sober" and he was very quite and kind with us (I noticed there was many "complicity" between him and us! :roll:) and the new songs sounded good, especially  "the reasons why"
SO I'M VERY HAPPY AND SATISFIED, THANKS FOR THIS WONDERFUL PRESENT, ROBERT, WE WILL ALWAYS LOVE YOU :smth049 :smth049 :smth049
Title: Re: 2008.10.11 Roma - Piazza S. Giovanni 'Coca Cola MTV Live' (Italy)
Post by: Janko on October 12, 2008, 15:26:20
Quote from: Darth_Blood on October 11, 2008, 22:25:56Said this is the only time they would be playing the whole album live.   

Pretty bold move!

I like it!

:smth023
Title: Re: 2008.10.11 Roma - Piazza S. Giovanni 'Coca Cola MTV Live' (Italy)
Post by: boneheadhaggar on October 12, 2008, 15:30:41
great to hear all the new stuff live, though I really cant wait to hear the studio versions as some of Roberts vocals sounded very flat and tired, love Sirensong and The Scream especially :smth023
Title: Re: 2008.10.11 Roma - Piazza S. Giovanni 'Coca Cola MTV Live' (Italy)
Post by: [labyrinth] on October 12, 2008, 19:16:46
absolutely AMAZING.

that's all i can say, right now...

the album has to be listened in its studio-version but it has some gems.
yes, the new songs are quite guiter-driven rock, but there's always The Cure touch in them.
first, i didn't like Baby Rag Dog Book (now known as "It's Over")...but i like it live. sure, it's not one of my favourite... but i liked it.

allright, i'll post some pictures soon. and write another topic bigger than this.

Title: Re: 2008.10.11 Roma - Piazza S. Giovanni 'Coca Cola MTV Live' (Italy)
Post by: japanesebaby on October 12, 2008, 21:23:02
Quote from: Lady on October 12, 2008, 12:16:18
Here are the pics  ;)

http://curefans.com/index.php/v/live/2008/cocacola/?action=gallery&g2_page=2

thanks for the pics Lady! :D
and thanks everyone for the comments from the show.

Quote from: Lady on October 12, 2008, 12:16:18
I think Robert was "sober"

you mean he was all drunk the last time you saw him play live?


thanks for the youtube links patitodark. however, i'm personally thinking of not checking out the links for all the "new" new songs. this time i'd like to hear the studio versions first, before listening to these live versions...
anyway, anyone has a full version of the mtv broadcast in original quality?

Title: Re: 2008.10.11 Roma - Piazza S. Giovanni 'Coca Cola MTV Live' (Italy)
Post by: Janko on October 12, 2008, 21:45:51
Quote from: japanesebaby on October 12, 2008, 21:23:02however, i'm personally thinking of not checking out the links for all the "new" new songs. this time i'd like to hear the studio versions first, before listening to these live versions...


Are you insane?!

This is the best gig I heard in years!
Pretty sure the best since TRILOGY!

F**K waiting!

:shock:
Title: Re: 2008.10.11 Roma - Piazza S. Giovanni 'Coca Cola MTV Live' (Italy)
Post by: japanesebaby on October 12, 2008, 21:52:21
Quote from: Janko on October 12, 2008, 21:45:51
Are you insane?!

no, i'm not.
are you? 

:)
Title: Re: 2008.10.11 Roma - Piazza S. Giovanni 'Coca Cola MTV Live' (Italy)
Post by: Janko on October 12, 2008, 22:25:07
Quote from: japanesebaby on October 12, 2008, 21:52:21
Quote from: Janko on October 12, 2008, 21:45:51
Are you insane?!

no, i'm not.
are you? 

:)


:oops:
Title: Re: 2008.10.11 Roma - Piazza S. Giovanni 'Coca Cola MTV Live' (Italy)
Post by: NeverForget on October 12, 2008, 22:37:18
The concert was GREAT, I was totally catched by the new songs.
From this live preview I can say that I do LOVE Sirensong, The Real Snow White, This. Here and Now. With You...just to mention a few...I like the others very much, I think it's gonna be a faboulous album in studio version too, live was really good...I'm soo happy! :smth049

We've been fighting almost all day, but it was worth the wait and the pain!! :rocker

I'll post my pictures too  ;)
Title: Re: 2008.10.11 Roma - Piazza S. Giovanni 'Coca Cola MTV Live' (Italy)
Post by: patitodark on October 13, 2008, 00:24:55
Quote from: japanesebaby on October 12, 2008, 21:23:02

thanks for the youtube links patitodark. however, i'm personally thinking of not checking out the links for all the "new" new songs. this time i'd like to hear the studio versions first, before listening to these live versions...
anyway, anyone has a full version of the mtv broadcast in original quality?


You make me remember the days when I also used to refuse hearing a single bit of a new album (besides the singles of course) haha ... GOOD OLD TIMES! but this time I couldnt resist and mainly because of the disappointment from 1996-2004, I was really not expecting too much from Dream 4:13 but I can say that it´s the best album in the "Jason era". I can say also that this album doesn´t bring any great memorable big hit neither.
Porl really enriches the songs with his great musicianship, Simon is good as always! Robert has a little of a sore throat but still his singing is great. Jason... he is playing as usual.
Title: Re: 2008.10.11 Roma - Piazza S. Giovanni 'Coca Cola MTV Live' (Italy)
Post by: tigermilk on October 13, 2008, 03:18:51
All of the videos are here, including the encore section.

http://www.hispacure.com/blog/?p=232

Does anyone have the audio yet?? I still think I'll wait to hear the album first. I haven't watched the videos or anything, I just think it'll be better to listen to the CD first, then the live show.
Title: Re: 2008.10.11 Roma - Piazza S. Giovanni 'Coca Cola MTV Live' (Italy)
Post by: maluflower on October 13, 2008, 04:49:30
Quote from: tigermilk on October 13, 2008, 03:18:51
All of the videos are here, including the encore section.

http://www.hispacure.com/blog/?p=232

It's so tempting to watch this! I agree though, as torturous as it may be, I'm going to wait for the album and then watch the concert. And I think I read Robert said it will be the only time they will play this album? That seems so strange to me. No chance for a tour then? :(
Title: Re: 2008.10.11 Roma - Piazza S. Giovanni 'Coca Cola MTV Live' (Italy)
Post by: soulmate on October 13, 2008, 06:46:15
Quote from: maluflower on October 13, 2008, 04:49:30
And I think I read Robert said it will be the only time they will play this album? That seems so strange to me. No chance for a tour then? :(
Hope not!!! What I understood is that it would be the only time they'd play the whole album...  :roll: but maybe because I can't wait for a tour and would be very disappointed if there wasn't one...
Title: Re: 2008.10.11 Roma - Piazza S. Giovanni 'Coca Cola MTV Live' (Italy)
Post by: monghi on October 13, 2008, 19:56:21
i was in Rome at Cure show with my friends... and here´s some photos:

www.thecure.sk/gallery (http://www.thecure.sk/gallery/index.php?ordner=.%2F2008_Rome&one=single+pic&bild=1&single=0&page=0)
Title: Re: 2008.10.11 Roma - Piazza S. Giovanni 'Coca Cola MTV Live' (Italy)
Post by: howtheendalwaysis on October 13, 2008, 22:57:59
thanks for posting the pics monghi !!! :smth023 They are cool pics !!! I was in Rome for the concert also, and was very impressed, the new album sounds great, cant wait for the release !!! : :smth041
Title: Re: 2008.10.11 Roma - Piazza S. Giovanni 'Coca Cola MTV Live' (Italy)
Post by: Lady on October 14, 2008, 00:00:44
Here is a short video that I made during "the walk"...unfortunally I was forced to stop the recording because people pushed too much  :smth011
Anyway I hope you'll enjoy it the same! :oops:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cH4p7ijbP70
Title: Re: 2008.10.11 Roma - Piazza S. Giovanni 'Coca Cola MTV Live' (Italy)
Post by: monghi on October 14, 2008, 07:10:56
yeah... during the second part of gig the rowd reminds me a videos from Borrowland 1984 and Orange 1986 ..it was crazy... :)
Title: Re: 2008.10.11 Roma - Piazza S. Giovanni 'Coca Cola MTV Live' (Italy)
Post by: revolt on October 14, 2008, 11:34:50
Quote from: Lady on October 14, 2008, 00:00:44
Here is a short video that I made during "the walk"...unfortunally I was forced to stop the recording because people pushed too much  :smth011
Anyway I hope you'll enjoy it the same! :oops:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cH4p7ijbP70

Wow, Lady, it's only 52 seconds but my head is already aching... Pretty avantgard-ish camera moves on that one...  :-D But thanks for the link.  :smth001
Title: Re: 2008.10.11 Roma - Piazza S. Giovanni 'Coca Cola MTV Live' (Italy)
Post by: Secrets on October 14, 2008, 13:17:59
I'm glad I'm not the only one abstaining!

I listened to a couple of the new tracks once, liked what I heard and that's it. I'll wait the couple of weeks to hear the album fresh and in full stereo polished glory.
Title: Re: 2008.10.11 Roma - Piazza S. Giovanni 'Coca Cola MTV Live' (Italy)
Post by: revolt on October 14, 2008, 14:25:47
Thanks to the people who provided the links for the concert videos!  :smth023

Well, I've listened to all of it (except the 4 singles) and I think I'm ready to give my first impression. As a whole, this seems to me like one of the most uninspired set of songs The Cure have ever come up with... Maybe even the most uninspired ever? I can't say I'm really disappointed, because all signs until now were not promising at all... Still, some of the "new" new songs are almost shockingly bland.

The good stuff: there's 2 songs (only 2 songs out of 13...  :roll:) that show what The Cure really are capable of: first, "The Hungry Ghost", which has that mix of mood and trippiness that the band does so well... it sounds like nothing new but it has that classic feeling. Second, and most of all, "The Scream", which is a powerful, haunting, dark song, where The Cure really give it all. It's really this album's GREAT song (yeah, every Cure album, however weak, has at least one great song... I was however almost disparaging when listening to this concert, because "The Scream" only comes at number 12). I almost feel that these 2 songs should have been saved for the promised "dark" album, because here they kind of seem out of place, they are almost too good for the general blandness of "4:13 Dream".

On a more general note, I think this is the first time I have REALLY understood how Jason's drumming is really bland. But then most of these songs probably wouldn't merit classier drumming...
Title: Re: 2008.10.11 Roma - Piazza S. Giovanni 'Coca Cola MTV Live' (Italy)
Post by: NeverForget on October 15, 2008, 18:49:16
I've uploaded a video I made during the concert, it's THE REASONS WHY, so be careful it's a spoiler for those who don't want to hear nothing before the album release ;)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b4JXHP9Bo3U

I was shaking because of the crowd, and in the last part I almost fell!
So, sorry for that, it's not the best video in the world  :-D
Title: Re: 2008.10.11 Roma - Piazza S. Giovanni 'Coca Cola MTV Live' (Italy)
Post by: patitodark on October 16, 2008, 03:16:42
Quote from: revolt on October 14, 2008, 14:25:47
The good stuff: there's 2 songs (only 2 songs out of 13...  :roll:) that show what The Cure really are capable of: first, "The Hungry Ghost", which has that mix of mood and trippiness that the band does so well... it sounds like nothing new but it has that classic feeling.

Totally agree. The Hungry Ghost has that "Cure feeling" we love. But you know what? I strongly believe it's mainly because of the "economical" and hypnotic "Boris Williams' style" Jason plays with. If Jason would play with lots of cymbals as usual and lots of upbeats, hits, toms, etc. (as usual) then the whole feeling of the song would be ruined. But this time he had an acceptable musical taste for the song.

Quote from: revolt on October 14, 2008, 14:25:47
Second, and most of all, "The Scream", which is a powerful, haunting, dark song, where The Cure really give it all.

The Scream reminds me of Forever with the intense part at the end of the song.


Quote from: revolt on October 14, 2008, 14:25:47
On a more general note, I think this is the first time I have REALLY understood how Jason's drumming is really bland. But then most of these songs probably wouldn't merit classier drumming...

Amen to that.
Title: Re: 2008.10.11 Roma - Piazza S. Giovanni 'Coca Cola MTV Live' (Italy)
Post by: philou (...) on October 16, 2008, 13:53:17
my first post...

what a great show. a little problem with the voice.. autumn... and rain...  great new songs no?
Title: Re: 2008.10.11 Roma - Piazza S. Giovanni 'Coca Cola MTV Live' (Italy)
Post by: revolt on October 16, 2008, 14:39:01
Quote from: patitodark on October 16, 2008, 03:16:42
The Hungry Ghost has that "Cure feeling" we love. But you know what? I strongly believe it's mainly because of the "economical" and hypnotic "Boris Williams' style" Jason plays with. If Jason would play with lots of cymbals as usual and lots of upbeats, hits, toms, etc. (as usual) then the whole feeling of the song would be ruined. But this time he had an acceptable musical taste for the song.


I like to be fair. I gave that video another watch and, well, I suppose Jason there isn't bad. At least he isn't doing anything that stands out as particularly out of place or damaging to the song. And he seems to be really into it when he's playing, which is always good to see.

And listening to the song for the 3rd time, I really have to confirm that this one has that Cure feeling that pulls you into the song and makes you forget the outside world. I'm not sure if the song itself is great enough to be called a classic, but it has the quality that we should demand from a Cure album track.
Title: Re: 2008.10.11 Roma - Piazza S. Giovanni 'Coca Cola MTV Live' (Italy)
Post by: patitodark on October 17, 2008, 01:11:33
Quote from: revolt on October 16, 2008, 14:39:01

And listening to the song for the 3rd time, I really have to confirm that this one has that Cure feeling that pulls you into the song and makes you forget the outside world. I'm not sure if the song itself is great enough to be called a classic, but it has the quality that we should demand from a Cure album track.

No. It wont´ turn into a classic for sure, but probably will be considered in my "best of the Jason era" compilation, along with Fake and Jupiter Crash and a couple more songs.
Title: Re: 2008.10.11 Roma - Piazza S. Giovanni 'Coca Cola MTV Live' (Italy)
Post by: japanesebaby on October 18, 2008, 02:00:45
Quote from: patitodark on October 13, 2008, 00:24:55
You make me remember the days when I also used to refuse hearing a single bit of a new album (besides the singles of course) haha ... GOOD OLD TIMES!

yes, i'm not saving it "for the rainy day" because i thought it was something utterly awesome. i just want to hear the studio version first, be it good or bad. and perhaps i'll even end up being more delighted by the live version then than i'd be now... we'll see.

Quote from: Secrets on October 14, 2008, 13:17:59
I'm glad I'm not the only one abstaining!

I listened to a couple of the new tracks once, liked what I heard and that's it. I'll wait the couple of weeks to hear the album fresh and in full stereo polished glory.

i watched through the encores from the dvd version, just to get a glimpse of the atmosphere of the gig - but i still skipped all of the 4.13 part. :-P
looked like nothing wrong with the atmosphere at the show at least.

some posts here make me curious about the new songs... but i won't give up to temptation. ;)

Title: Re: 2008.10.11 Roma - Piazza S. Giovanni 'Coca Cola MTV Live' (Italy)
Post by: Lady on October 18, 2008, 11:41:02
Quote from: japanesebaby on October 18, 2008, 02:00:45

some posts here make me curious about the new songs... but i won't give up to temptation. ;)

:-D
Hey jb, "The hungry ghost", "the reasons why" and "the real snow white" are amazing, you should listen to them!!!! :lol: ;)
Title: Re: 2008.10.11 Roma - Piazza S. Giovanni 'Coca Cola MTV Live' (Italy)
Post by: japanesebaby on October 18, 2008, 11:43:04
Quote from: Lady on October 18, 2008, 11:41:02
Quote from: japanesebaby on October 18, 2008, 02:00:45

some posts here make me curious about the new songs... but i won't give up to temptation. ;)

:-D
Hey jb, "The hungry ghost", "the reasons why" and "the real snow white" are amazing, you should listen to them!!!! :lol: ;)

i certainly will - on october 28th.  :-D
Title: Re: 2008.10.11 Roma - Piazza S. Giovanni 'Coca Cola MTV Live' (Italy)
Post by: nausearockpig on October 18, 2008, 12:11:17
japanesebaby, I'm with you.. it was "bad" enough hearing the new songs live then the Mix13 versions before hearing the album in full.

The reason I say this is that because listening to an album for the first time should be, in my opinion, done in one unbroken session.

Hearing the songs as singles first will dilute the overall "deflowering" of my first 4:13 Dream experience...

Bring on the album release... I might just take the day off work... if Shaun lets me.....LOL
Title: Re: 2008.10.11 Roma - Piazza S. Giovanni 'Coca Cola MTV Live' (Italy)
Post by: japanesebaby on October 18, 2008, 12:27:32
Quote from: nausearockpig on October 18, 2008, 12:11:17
The reason I say this is that because listening to an album for the first time should be, in my opinion, done in one unbroken session.

Hearing the songs as singles first will dilute the overall "deflowering" of my first 4:13 Dream experience...

yes, that's exactly how i feel.
we're told  that this "let's reveal everything bit by bit, single by single" is something new, something especially thrilling for the fans, but imo it's only a corporate marketing gimmick in disguise.

in all i think it's a sign of our times, the general lack of so-called "spannungsbogen" (="the self-imposed delay between desire for a thing and the act of reaching out to grasp that thing") in everything.

(of course i'm not saying everyone should feel the same way, i do understand if some people generally do like receiving stuff in small portions which in the end form a whole. nothing wrong in that, it just doesn't work for me. i'm a spannungsbogen kind of person. :))

Title: Re: 2008.10.11 Roma - Piazza S. Giovanni 'Coca Cola MTV Live' (Italy)
Post by: nausearockpig on October 19, 2008, 06:10:43
I guess it depends on what it is you're expecting.. If it's something that means a lot to you and you want it now!!! then for me, it's important to have it all in one full go than in dribs and drabs, but if it's something less interesting, then bits and pieces are ok..
Title: Re: 2008.10.11 Roma - Piazza S. Giovanni 'Coca Cola MTV Live' (Italy)
Post by: tigermilk on October 19, 2008, 14:16:52
Quote from: japanesebaby on October 18, 2008, 11:43:04
Quote from: Lady on October 18, 2008, 11:41:02
Quote from: japanesebaby on October 18, 2008, 02:00:45

some posts here make me curious about the new songs... but i won't give up to temptation. ;)

:-D
Hey jb, "The hungry ghost", "the reasons why" and "the real snow white" are amazing, you should listen to them!!!! :lol: ;)

i certainly will - on october 28th.  :-D

Haha, hell yes! Stay strong JB and nausearockpig. I'm also waiting until I've listened to the album :) And after a few spins of the polished studio disc I will then listen to the live set
:smth023
Title: Re: 2008.10.11 Roma - Piazza S. Giovanni 'Coca Cola MTV Live' (Italy)
Post by: mahood on October 20, 2008, 01:16:46
Quote from: tigermilk on October 19, 2008, 14:16:52
Quote from: japanesebaby on October 18, 2008, 11:43:04
Quote from: Lady on October 18, 2008, 11:41:02
Quote from: japanesebaby on October 18, 2008, 02:00:45

some posts here make me curious about the new songs... but i won't give up to temptation. ;)

:-D
Hey jb, "The hungry ghost", "the reasons why" and "the real snow white" are amazing, you should listen to them!!!! :lol: ;)

i certainly will - on october 28th.  :-D

Haha, hell yes! Stay strong JB and nausearockpig. I'm also waiting until I've listened to the album :) And after a few spins of the polished studio disc I will then listen to the live set
:smth023

stay really strong then.
i understand your point perfectly, and i would have tried to follow your path too (not sure i could have resisted, though), if the 4 ugliest productions in 30 years of the cure (i was one click away to say the ugliest ones in 30 years of music, but then i remembered there is also the so-called remix EP), i.e. the singles, had not been released prior to the album.
when this concert was announced, i thought it was the best news for the cure this year, because at least we may have something to listen to, and just hearing the hungry ghost studio version some minutes ago... well, no further comments.

i know nothing, maybe you will enjoy the studio version, but just in case, i would suggest you to have a ready-to-listen version of this concert very close to you, just to hear some depth, dynamics, everything.
the thing is, i don't know if i would have liked sleep when i'm dead the way i do if i first discovered the studio version ; same could be said about wendy time (T+C2 version vs wish version), but here, since we already know 6 studio tracks out of 13, it seems clear that everything has been wendytimed x1000 (i.e. definitely butchered).
& maybe i'm wrong, & maybe i should give several tries, or wait for the finished LP (not bad mp3s) to be released, but right now i am just pissed off.

the rome concert may not be the best, robert's voice seems to suffer from time to time, but i already know it will be the only version of the album i will happen to listen ; and again, i'm more than glad they did this.
and yes, the scream, aka forever version 5 (three>forever>all mine>lost prior to that), the reasons why, this.here and now. with you and some parts of the real snow white are great. but this will all be discussed at the end of the month  ;)
Title: Re: 2008.10.11 Roma - Piazza S. Giovanni 'Coca Cola MTV Live' (Italy)
Post by: japanesebaby on October 20, 2008, 09:07:45
Quote from: mahood on October 20, 2008, 01:16:46
Quote from: tigermilk on October 19, 2008, 14:16:52
Quote from: japanesebaby on October 18, 2008, 11:43:04
Quote from: Lady on October 18, 2008, 11:41:02
Quote from: japanesebaby on October 18, 2008, 02:00:45

some posts here make me curious about the new songs... but i won't give up to temptation. ;)

:-D
Hey jb, "The hungry ghost", "the reasons why" and "the real snow white" are amazing, you should listen to them!!!! :lol: ;)

i certainly will - on october 28th.  :-D

Haha, hell yes! Stay strong JB and nausearockpig. I'm also waiting until I've listened to the album :) And after a few spins of the polished studio disc I will then listen to the live set
:smth023

stay really strong then.
i understand your point perfectly, and i would have tried to follow your path too (not sure i could have resisted, though), if the 4 ugliest productions in 30 years of the cure (i was one click away to say the ugliest ones in 30 years of music, but then i remembered there is also the so-called remix EP), i.e. the singles, had not been released prior to the album.
when this concert was announced, i thought it was the best news for the cure this year, because at least we may have something to listen to, and just hearing the hungry ghost studio version some minutes ago... well, no further comments.

you know i'm not disagreeing with you there at all. the main reason i'm doing it (why i've decided to wait) is because i'm actually expecting myself to enjoy the live version a lot more AFTER i've heard the studio version first. it's exactly because i don't expect the studio version sound very good, just like the singles. it's sad to say but the truth is that production of the cure singles have always been similar to that of the album in question. so, if and when the studio album sucks quality-wise (even if it might have some good songs on it), i know i'll be very happy to the live version at hand and then i will really appreciate this broadcast much more than i'd do otherwise. so i'm just sort of building up a  opportunity to myself, to really enjoy that live version as much as possible.

and of course i agree with you that the decision to play the whole album live was really the best news for a long time, a really good thing.

ps. i can't bother checking out that 'the hungry ghost' clip because i know i'd just be pissed off, like you.
funny because imo these teasers should be like appetizers: something that make your appetite grow because they taste so very delicious. but for some reason they have become something that eat away your appetite because somebody just threw in way too much salt and then forgot them in the oven for additional two hours so that everything's burned.
Title: Re: 2008.10.11 Roma - Piazza S. Giovanni 'Coca Cola MTV Live' (Italy)
Post by: revolt on October 20, 2008, 11:20:47
Quote from: japanesebaby on October 20, 2008, 09:07:45
somebody just threw in way too much salt and then forgot them in the oven for additional two hours so that everything's burned.


Congratulations! You have just made the perfect description of "Wild Mood Swings".  :-D
Title: Re: 2008.10.11 Roma - Piazza S. Giovanni 'Coca Cola MTV Live' (Italy)
Post by: orangeskies on October 20, 2008, 18:47:23
I published an ironic post about the gig of the Cure in Rome, last Saturday
http://orangeskies.wordpress.com
check it out!
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Post by: disintegration on October 20, 2008, 20:52:50
 :-D

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Title: Re: 2008.10.11 Roma - Piazza S. Giovanni 'Coca Cola MTV Live' (Italy)
Post by: japanesebaby on October 20, 2008, 21:13:19
QuoteAnd this forces me, even if I've been a fierce Cure fan, to explain the second rule of the perfect rockstar: if your arse becomes bigger than a ship, then you better withdraw.

yeah, somebody should have told people like bb king to get off the stage a looong ago.
fat people just can't play music - a fact!

also a fact:

(http://artzthings.com/e-pins/images/paris-mag2.jpg)

:-D

Title: Re: 2008.10.11 Roma - Piazza S. Giovanni 'Coca Cola MTV Live' (Italy)
Post by: Lady on October 21, 2008, 16:56:46
Talking about the Cure, maybe they were even worse: after a long while standing in the middle of the kindergarten crowd of coca-cola's Mtv festival, with all the people around full with caffeine drink, that they gave for free everywhere (maybe they were looking for addiction), finally there they were Robert Smith and the Cure. Now, about the old Robert and his beer drift I don't have nothing to add to the things that my friend Sun Of York wrote here in the past, but I have to say that the concert was deadly boring.

Personally, I almost fell asleep all time, and all the people whom I asked about it later told me the same (everyone in Rome was there, virtually). The songs were diffusive and also a bit of a metal stuff, really little of the old ones have been performed, from Close to Me to A forest, and we've seen tons of useless aged rockstar's poses. Maybe I discovered the truth about all this business. Maybe Smith didn't get fat because of too many beers, as our post wrote. Maybe he broadened because of too many cokes. And this hypothesis is surely worse than the other.

:shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:

Is he a dope??

Title: Re: 2008.10.11 Roma - Piazza S. Giovanni 'Coca Cola MTV Live' (Italy)
Post by: disintegration on October 21, 2008, 19:24:25
 :smth043 :smth043 :smth043
No normal people.....  :smth011
Title: Re: 2008.10.11 Roma - Piazza S. Giovanni 'Coca Cola MTV Live' (Italy)
Post by: cure89 on October 22, 2008, 10:55:56
For myself The Cure lost more and more of their "special kind" and in a way they seem to be in a dead-end street. The new songs are to much "wanna sound like something we did effectively in the past" but there's not one divine spark. But it's a question of taste, finally.
Title: Re: 2008.10.11 Roma - Piazza S. Giovanni 'Coca Cola MTV Live' (Italy)
Post by: nausearockpig on October 22, 2008, 11:11:58
i remember thinking that when I first heard 2004's self titled album, that the songs sounded unfinished or like the tracks were demo-sounding.. I hope this album's not the same..
Title: Re: 2008.10.11 Roma - Piazza S. Giovanni 'Coca Cola MTV Live' (Italy)
Post by: cure89 on October 22, 2008, 11:35:58
Maybe RS wanted it to sound "back to the roots". A thing I really can't understand. Why to hell they haven't a keyboarder? Many of the songs from the earlier past would be great with some electronics, wouldn't they? The combination of guitars and keys were typical for the best Cure area. I don't like the "new way". Maybe RS has been  developed into a bullhead more and more??? Will there be more keyboards on the new album ... more as on "Sleep When I'm Dead".
Title: Re: 2008.10.11 Roma - Piazza S. Giovanni 'Coca Cola MTV Live' (Italy)
Post by: dsanchez on October 22, 2008, 23:23:47
Quote from: Lady on October 21, 2008, 16:56:46
Talking about the Cure (....) I have to say that the concert was deadly boring.

I think he was in another concert or maybe he mean one of the bands who supported The Cure. Robert and the boys are the best band in the entire planet -specially live!
Title: Re: 2008.10.11 Roma - Piazza S. Giovanni 'Coca Cola MTV Live' (Italy)
Post by: Lady on October 24, 2008, 09:43:23
Quote from: Lady on October 21, 2008, 16:56:46
Maybe Smith didn't get fat because of too many beers, as our post wrote. Maybe he broadened because of too many cokes. [/i]
I'm so sick about this comments about Robert's build! :smth011
First of all I don't understand why we need to speak about this everytime and then I don't find him so fat, maybe this guy was too far from the stage, but who was very close to Bob can confirm he's not so fat at all: he always dresses large shirts and large trousers but live he looks to me taller and thiner!
Title: Re: 2008.10.11 Roma - Piazza S. Giovanni 'Coca Cola MTV Live' (Italy)
Post by: cure89 on October 24, 2008, 10:43:59
... just have a look at actual live photographs. He's not looking like Jack Skellington, doesn't he? But fat or not fat. The man is nearly 50 and was never an Adonis. I think he's okay. But he should try a bit harder with his hair style. Sometimes he's looking horrible with his sagging wisps.
Title: Re: 2008.10.11 Roma - Piazza S. Giovanni 'Coca Cola MTV Live' (Italy)
Post by: DroidAKov on October 24, 2008, 15:50:21
I really couldn't care less what Robert or any of the boys looked like.

Robert is always an easy target for suppossed 'reporters' or onlookers as most of these people don't even recognise or care for anyone else involved in The Cure.

I'm sure if I based my opinions on there appearence I would never have dared to show any interest in the band at all at any point in their career.

Personally, from my point of view I find it quite refreshing in these media frenzied and political correctness times that he has so far refused to simply become some sort of apologist and revert to what he is 'supposed to' look like according to his age etc.  Because he is in the public eye he suddenly has to dress/appear like every other 50 year old man?

And I suppose by such rationale he should quit just put his feet up and watch the Discovery Channel, like every other 50 year old man/
Title: Re: 2008.10.11 Roma - Piazza S. Giovanni 'Coca Cola MTV Live' (Italy)
Post by: lostflower4 on October 25, 2008, 09:11:31
Quote from: japanesebaby on October 20, 2008, 21:13:19
QuoteAnd this forces me, even if I've been a fierce Cure fan, to explain the second rule of the perfect rockstar: if your arse becomes bigger than a ship, then you better withdraw.

yeah, somebody should have told people like bb king to get off the stage a looong ago.
fat people just can't play music - a fact!

Hey now...

I had the pleasure of seeing Mr. King in concert two summers ago, and while I've never been a huge blues fan, it was still an enjoyable experience.

That guy can still play with a passion and energy that many artists 1/4 his age cannot approach. And still so much power in his voice, it was almost hard to believe.

A great all-around entertainer, and I can see him still going for a few more years.

Title: Re: 2008.10.11 Roma - Piazza S. Giovanni 'Coca Cola MTV Live' (Italy)
Post by: japanesebaby on October 25, 2008, 14:38:18
Quote from: lostflower4 on October 25, 2008, 09:11:31
Quote from: japanesebaby on October 20, 2008, 21:13:19
QuoteAnd this forces me, even if I've been a fierce Cure fan, to explain the second rule of the perfect rockstar: if your arse becomes bigger than a ship, then you better withdraw.

yeah, somebody should have told people like bb king to get off the stage a looong ago.
fat people just can't play music - a fact!

Hey now...

I had the pleasure of seeing Mr. King in concert two summers ago, and while I've never been a huge blues fan, it was still an enjoyable experience.

That guy can still play with a passion and energy that many artists 1/4 his age cannot approach. And still so much power in his voice, it was almost hard to believe.

A great all-around entertainer, and I can see him still going for a few more years.



well my post was 110% ironic, if you didn't notice. i think the "fat people can't be rockstars" statement in that review was just so dumb.
i'm no blues fan either but nevertheless i have no doubt whatsoever that bb king kicks ass in his own field of music, that's for sure. but we shouldn't consider him a living blues legend - just because he is actually quite overweight? ok that's just dumb.

(i thought the ironic tone in my post should have been clear, to enhance it i posted the paris hilton ad.
anyway i suppose this proves that when you write something in the internet there's always someone who reads it the opposite way than you intended. happens all the time.)
Title: Re: 2008.10.11 Roma - Piazza S. Giovanni 'Coca Cola MTV Live' (Italy)
Post by: lostflower4 on October 25, 2008, 14:53:14
Quote from: japanesebaby link=topic=5610.msg57449#msg57449well my post was 110% ironic, if you didn't notice. i think the "fat people can't be rockstars" statement in that review was just so dumb.
i'm no blues fan either but nevertheless i have no doubt whatsoever that bb king kicks ass in his own field of music, that's for sure.

(i thought the ironic tone in my post should have been clear, to enhance it i posted the paris hilton ad.
anyway i suppose this proves that when you write something in the internet there's always someone who reads it the opposite way than you intended. happens all the time.)

Sorry, it went right over my head this time.  :oops:
Title: Re: 2008.10.11 Roma - Piazza S. Giovanni 'Coca Cola MTV Live' (Italy)
Post by: dsanchez on November 10, 2012, 10:42:33
The concert on YouTube:

The Cure - 2008 10 11 Rome (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUS7Cg0X7BE#ws)
Title: Re: 2008.10.11 Roma - Piazza S. Giovanni 'Coca Cola MTV Live' (Italy)
Post by: revolt_again on March 13, 2014, 13:15:01
Well, it's been a long time, but since we really haven't heard any new material by the Cure since 2008, perhaps it's still relevant to bring up this thread. Anyway, my 2 cents:

1. I'm still not confortable with the band playing a concert sponsored by Coca Cola. I mean, I even like the drink itself, but I think art and big corporations should be kept apart as much as possible.

2. It was a brave thing for them to play the whole new album from beginning to end, when no one in the public new the songs at all (well, 4 singles had already been released, but since none of those were hits it's a fair assumption to make that most in the audience didn't even know those).

3. It was brave but it was also unwise, simply because the new material was not up to Cure standards. There were only 3 really good songs - 'Underneath the Stars', 'The Hungry Ghost' (very superior to the studio version), and 'The Scream', and of these 3 I think only the last one can be called a classic.

4. It is true that in general these live versions sound clearly superior to the studio ones - more natural, more organic, better sung, etc.
Title: Re: 2008.10.11 Roma - Piazza S. Giovanni 'Coca Cola MTV Live' (Italy)
Post by: Ulrich on March 14, 2014, 09:31:50
Quote from: revolt_again on March 13, 2014, 13:15:01There were only 3 really good songs - 'Underneath the Stars', 'The Hungry Ghost' (very superior to the studio version), and 'The Scream', and of these 3 I think only the last one can be called a classic.

I don't agree. I prefer e.g. "Sleep When I'm Dead" over "The Scream"...
Title: Re: 2008.10.11 Roma - Piazza S. Giovanni 'Coca Cola MTV Live' (Italy)
Post by: revolt_again on March 14, 2014, 13:29:22
Quote from: Ulrich on March 14, 2014, 09:31:50
Quote from: revolt_again on March 13, 2014, 13:15:01There were only 3 really good songs - 'Underneath the Stars', 'The Hungry Ghost' (very superior to the studio version), and 'The Scream', and of these 3 I think only the last one can be called a classic.

I don't agree. I prefer e.g.  over "The Scream"...

Well, I think "Sleep When I'm Dead" had potential. Before the release of the single there was a snippet available at thecure.com that was basically a few seconds looped ad-infinitum and it was promising... I just don't think the band developed the song in the best way possible. As I wrote back in the day, the song would have sounded better if they had recorded it with driving rhythm acoustic guitars, a la 'In Between Days'...