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General The Cure Discussion / Re: Tim's Twitter Wish "Listen...
Last post by dsanchez - November 26, 2022, 22:01:05
And the below tweets are related about the recording of 'Wish

QuoteRECORDING THE 'WISH' DEMOS BEGAN IN NOV 1990 AT THE LIVE HOUSE STUDIO IN CORNWALL, WITH ENGINEER STEVE WHITFIELD. THE SESSION PRODUCED FOUR SONGS, A LETTER TO ELISE, WENDY TIME, THE BIG HAND, AND CUT

MOST OF THE REST OF THE SONGS - INCLUDING THE B-SIDES - WERE BAND EVOLUTIONS OF HOME DEMOS

MAKING THIS ALBUM I USED TO GET GOING AROUND 4PM... LISTEN TO THE PREVIOUS DAYS THING... CYCLE TO THE LOCAL PUB... CYCLE BACK... FAFF ABOUT... EAT... THEN GO FOR IT!

ME AND SIMON AND PERRY (AND OF COURSE DAVE AND STEVE) WERE THERE FOR THE DURATION... BORIS AND PORL WOULD FREQUENTLY TAKE TIME AWAY... WE DEMO'D EVERYTHING AS A BAND, BUT WE RECORDED THIS WISH ALBUM IN DIFFERENT WAYS

USUALLY BORIS AND SIMON AND ME WOULD PUT DOWN A BACKING TRACK - ONCE WE WERE HAPY WITH A TAKE (THIS WAS RECORDED TO TAPE REMEMBER - NO CUTTING AND PASTING BACK THEN!) ME AND SIMON AND PERRY WOULD OVERDUB 'OTHER BITS'

- THEN PORL WOULD ADD HIS THING - THEN I WOULD SING - AND THEN ME AND BORIS WOULD ADD SOME FINAL BITS OF 'THE WEIRD STUFF'... USUALLY PERCUSSION!

BREAKFAST AND BED AROUND 7AM... AND I STILL KEEP THESE HOURS!

...BUT I DO CYCLE TO THE PUB FAR LESS OFTEN...

AND SET OFF FAR FEWER HOME MADE ROCKETS

MAKING 'DISINTEGRATION' I KNEW EXACTLY HOW I WANTED THE SONGS TO SOUND... WITH 'WISH' I HAD LESS OF AN OVERALL IDEA... I JUST KNEW I WANTED IT TO BE KALEIDOSCOPIC SOMEHOW... AND THIS IS 'SOMEHOW'!

...THE 2022 REMASTER SOUNDS LIKE THE ALBUM I HEARD IN THE STUDIO... FINALLY!!!
#2
General The Cure Discussion / Re: Tim's Twitter Wish "Listen...
Last post by dsanchez - November 26, 2022, 21:57:59
Below are the tweets Robert wrote about each song on Wish. Some interesting stuff I didn't know!

Open

QuoteTRACK 1 - OPEN "I really don't know What I'm doing here I really think I should've gone to bed tonight But... "

THIS SONG WAS ONE OF MINE... AS SOON AS I FOUND THIS TUNING ON MY GUITAR AND WROTE THE OPENING THREE CHORDS I KNEW IT WAS GOING TO BE THE ALBUM OPENER. THE LYRICS ARE ABOUT THE DERANGED PERSPECTIVE, LOSS OF CONTROL AND OVERWHELMING BANALITY OF BELIEVING ONESELF DEFINED BY THE ROLE 'SINGER IN A FAMOUS BAND'. ...ALBEIT IT WAS VERY OFTEN VERY FUN!!!

High

QuoteTRACK 2 - HIGH "When I see you sky as a kite As high as I might I can't get that high

I FIRST HEARD 'HIGH' IN SIMON'S KITCHEN... A HISSY BUT PERFECTLY FORMED INSTRUMENTAL CASSETTE DEMO... I KNEW STRAIGHT AWAY IT HAD TO BE THE CURE'S NEXT SINGLE.

WHEN YOU WAKE UP ONE STEP AWAY FROM FALLING OFF THE EDGE OF THE WORLD... A REALISATION OF HOW IMPORTANT IT IS TO HOLD ON TO THOSE YOU LOVE.

I LOVE THE WAY MY FENDER V1 BASS SOUNDS ON THIS ALBUM... 'WISH' WAS RECORDED AT THE MANOR STUDIOS NEAR OXFORD, ENGLAND... ENGINEERED BY DAVE ALLEN, ASSISTED BY STEVE WHITFIELD, PRODUCED BY DAVE AND ME, AND MIXED BY MARK SAUNDERS

"I'll keep on holding you In arms so tight They'll never let you go"

Apart

QuoteTRACK 3 - APART "He waits to hear her say "Forgive" But she just drops Her pearl-black eyes"

AND THEN... THE AWFUL REALISATION THAT YOU ONLY DREAMED YOU HAD WOKEN UP IN TIME... SLOWLY, IRREVOCABLY YOU HAVE DRIFTED OUT OF LOVE... TOO MANY MISTAKES... TOO MANY THROWAWAY WORDS... TOO MUCH TAKEN FOR GRANTED. I LIKE THE THREE VOICES IDEA... THE ETERNAL TRIANGLE...A VERY SAD SONG THIS... HARD TO LISTEN TO!

"How did we get this far apart? I thought this love would last forever"


From the Edge of the Deep Green Sea

QuoteTRACK 4 - FROM THE EDGE OF THE DEEP GREEN SEA "Every time we do this I fall for her"

TOD BUD NOOSH AND DARCIE SAY........................YEEEEEEEEEEAH

A SONG ABOUT A VERY PSYCHEDELIC TRIP... I AM NOT SURE IT EVER REALLY ENDED?!!

"So I try "Put your hands in the sky"" AGH! I SPILLED MY DRINK!

WITHOUT DOUBT MY FINEST 'JIMI HENDRIX WANNABE' MOMENT!

REMORSE... ALWAYS REMORSE...

"And miles And miles And miles And miles And miles Away from home again... " PLUS ÇA CHANGE, PLUS C'EST LA MÊME CHOSE?

Wendy Time


QuoteTRACK 5 - WENDY TIME ""You look like you could do with a friend" She said... "

WOW!!!

ONE OF THE REALLY EARLY DEMOS, SPEEDED UP AND WAAAAHED DOWN!

ANOTHER SONG ABOUT THE WEIRD AND WONDERFUL WISH WORLD... I STILL FIND IT STRANGE THAT COMPLETE STRANGERS CAN START TALKING TO ME AS IF THEY HAVE KNOWN ME FOR YEARS... I KNOW IN SOME STRANGE WAY THEY HAVE... BUT STILL...

"It doesn't touch me at all" HMMM... IT SEEMS CLOSING DOWN HAS ALWAYS BEEN ONE OF MY 'COPING STRATEGIES'...


Doing The Unstuck

QuoteTRACK 6 - DOING THE UNSTUCK "It's a perfect day For letting go"

AH! THE 'EMULATOR 2' HARP SAMPLE! I AM INSTANTLY PULLED BACK THROUGH TIME TO A SLOWER 8-BIT WORLD...

THIS IS JUST ABOUT THE MOST CAREFREE, ABANDONED AND HAPPY WE EVER GOT I THINK?!!

HEY! I AM DANCING! (WELL... YOU KNOW... WAVING MY HANDS AROUND WHILST SHUFFLING!)

I WANTED 'DOING THE UNSTUCK' AS THE THIRD SINGLE FROM THE ALBUM, BUT WAS IGNORED BY THE GREAT POWERS... BAH!

IT'S ALWAYS BEEN ONE OF SIMON'S FAVOURITE CURE SONGS #TIMSTWITTERLISTENINGPARTY #WISHLISTENINGPARTY

AND HE IS NEVER WRONG...

"It's a perfect day To throw back your head And kiss it all goodbye"

Friday I'm In Love


QuoteTRACK 7 - FRIDAY I'M IN LOVE "I don't care if Monday's blue... "

HALFWAY THROUGH... AND ON THE HALWAY THEME... ONE FRIDAY NIGHT ABOUT HALFWAY THROUGH THE MANOR STUDIO SESSION I WENT HOME FOR A WEEKEND BREAK, AND ON THE JOURNEY I STARTED HUMMING THIS SONG... WHEN I GOT HOME I QUICKLY FIGURED OUT THE CHORDS AND THREW IT DOWN ONTO CASSETTE...

IT TOOK ME AGES TO CONVINCE MYSELF AND EVERYONE ELSE THAT I HADN'T NICKED IT! IT SEEMED SO INSTANTLY FAMILIAR...

I WROTE THE WORDS ON THE WAY BACK TO THE STUDIO... IT REALLY WAS A LOT EASIER THEN...

I REMEMBER STANDING AT THE MICROPHONE AFTER THE FIRST VOCAL TAKE FEELING VERY HAPPY... LOOKING UP AND SEEING EVERYONE WAVING AT ME THROUGH THE CONTROL ROOM GLASS

WE DIDN'T PLAY IT LIVE MUCH FOR A LOOONG TIME... I THOUGHT IT WAS TOO HAPPY! BUT NOW... IT HAS BECOME A REALLY WONDERFUL MOMENT IN THE SHOW... EVEN ON THE 'WRONG' NIGHTS (THANK YOU AMSTERDAM!)

"It's Friday I'm in love"

Trust

QuoteTRACK 8 - TRUST "There is no-one left in the world That I can hold onto There is really no-one left at all There is only you"

WHEN I REMASTERED 'WISH' THIS YEAR, I REDISCOVERED A DIMENSION IN THE MUSIC WHICH I HAD KIND OF FORGOTTEN, A VERY GENTLE YEARNING THING WHICH I FIND QUITE BEAUTIFUL...

I THINK 'TRUST' IS ONE OF THE BEST THINGS WE'VE EVER DONE, IT'S PLAYED WITH SUCH FEELING

IT IS A LOVE SONG WITH A DARK HEART...

NOW I WILL JUST LISTEN.........................................

"And still the hardest part for you To put your trust in me I love you more than I can say Why won't you just believe?"


A Letter to Elise

QuoteTRACK 9 -  A LETTER TO ELISE "Oh Elise! It doesn't matter what you say I just can't stay here every yesterday Like keep on acting out the same The way we act out"

AS WITH EVERY CURE ALBUM, CERTAIN LITERARY WORKS PROVIDED TOUCHSTONES... 'A LETTER TO ELISE' DREW STRANGE INSPIRATION FROM KAFKA'S 'LETTERS TO FELICE'

THE BOOK, WHICH IS PRETTY MUCH A SERIES OF INCREASINGLY DEMENTED UNANSWERED LETTERS, REALLY RESONATED WITH ME AT THE TIME...

THIS WAS THE THIRD SINGLE FROM THE ALBUM... FOR A NUMBER OF REASONS IT NEVER REALLY ESTABLISHED ITSELF IN THE CURE LIVE REPERTOIRE... WHICH IS ODD, BECAUSE I THINK IT IS A REALLY LOVELY SONG?

"I thought you were The girl I always dreamed about But I let the dream go And the promises broke And the make-believe ran out... " OUCH

"And every time I try to pick it up Like falling sand As fast as I pick it up It runs away Through my clutching hands" MY OLD FRIEND THE FUTILITY MONSTER IS NEVER TOO FAR AWAY...

"But there's nothing else I can really do There's nothing else I can really do There's nothing else I can really do At all"


Cut

QuoteTRACK 10 -  CUT "I wish you felt the way that I still do"

ANOTHER ONE OF THE REALLY EARLY DEMOS (AKA 'AWAY'), SPEEDED DOWN AND WAAAAHED UP?!!

AND ANOTHER SONG LAMENTING THE FRACTURING OF OLD FRIENDSHIPS... I FOUND IT HARD DURING THIS PERIOD OF THE BAND TO KEEP HOLD ON TO WHO I REALLY WANTED TO BE, AND AS A CONSEQUENCE I THINK I OFTEN BLAMED EVERYONE BUT MYSELF FOR ANY UPSET

BUT SOMETIMES IT WAS THE OTHER PERSON CHANGING, NOT ME...

You don't feel anymore You don't care anymore It's all gone It's all gone" IT'S ALL GONE... BUT... BUT... !!!

I SOUND YOUNG.......... ER.......

BUT THE SAME? X

To Wish Impossible Things


QuoteOW.......... TRACK 11 -  TO WISH IMPOSSIBLE THINGS "Remember how it used to be When the sun would fill the sky... "

KATE WILKINSON IS PLAYING VIOLA - IN MY MIND THIS WAS THE SOUND OF A SIREN SINGING...

'TO WISH IMPOSSIBLE THINGS' IS REALLY THE TITLE TRACK... ANOTHER GORGEOUS, MELANCHOLIC PIECE... IT'S PROBABLY MY FAVOURITE SONG ON THE RECORD?

"It was the sweetness of your skin It was the hope Of all we might have been That filled me with the hope to wish Impossible things" IT IS PRETTY HARD TO LISTEN TO THIS ONE THOUGH

I THINK I RETURNED TO THIS SONG IN SPIRIT WITH OUR NEW SONGS 'ALONE' AND 'ENDSONG'...

THE REPETITION OF CERTAIN PHRASES AND IMAGES HAS ALWAYS BEEN THERE WITH ME... REPETITION... COMPULSION?

"All I wish Is gone away"

End

QuoteTRACK 12 -  END "I think I've reached that point Where giving up and going on Are both the same dead end to me Are both the same old song"

AND I REALLY DID FEEL LIKE THIS A LOT OF THE TIME AROUND THIS TIME...

THE CURE WERE PRETTY MUCH ONE OF THE 'BIGGEST' BANDS IN THE WORLD... AND I OFTEN FELT LIKE I WAS DYING INSIDE...

I REMEMBER WORKING THIS SONG OUT IN THE STUDIO VERY NEAR THE END OF THE SESSION... BORIS PLAYED THE SAME BASIC DRUM PATTERN (WITH BORIS VARIATIONS!) OVER AND OVER FOR A COUPLE OF EARLY MORNING HOURS... I WANTED AN EPIC END SONG... A SONG TO BOW OUT WITH... AND I THINK I GOT IT

DOO DOO DOO DOODOOOOO

"Please stop loving me Please stop loving me I am none of these things"

(THE) END... WE PLAYED SOME REALLY GREAT SHOWS ON THE WISH TOUR THAT FOLLOWED THE RELEASE OF THIS ALBUM... BUT THE BAND WAS DISSOLVING SLOWLY... THE END WAS INEVITABLE... IT ALWAYS IS

BUT ALL IN ALL, 'WISH' WAS A GREAT EXPERIENCE - AND AN ALBUM I AM VERY PROUD OF
#3
General The Cure Discussion / Tim's Twitter Wish "Listening ...
Last post by dsanchez - November 26, 2022, 21:54:56
Robert Smith participated yesterday in "Tim's Twitter Listening Party" to celebrate the Wish reissue. Tim is the singer of UK band The Charlatans and this online event is about listening a band's album and having someone from the band commenting (via tweets) about it. All the tweets related to this particular Cure event can be accessed here.

You can also make a search on Twitter with the hashtags #TIMSTWITTERLISTENINGPARTY #WISHLISTENINGPARTY and include the band's account @TheCure if you want to get only the tweets Robert wrote.

Below are some highlights of this "conversation" with Robert Smith:

- Robert's favorite song in the album is "To Wish Impossible Things" and he thinks "Trust" is one of the best Cure songs ever
- "Doing the Unstuck" is one of Simon's favourite Cure songs. Robert wanted this song as Wish single but their label/publisher didn't want to
- The idea for the song "A Letter to Elise" was inspired in Kafka's "Letters to Felice"
- "Alone" and "Endsong" (from the band's upcoming album 'Songs of a Lost World' are inspired/connected to "To Wish Impossible Things"
- The 2022 remaster of Wish sounds like the album Robert heard in the studio back in 1992!
#4
Other Artists / Re: Currently Listening to
Last post by MeltingMan - November 26, 2022, 19:52:42
#5
General The Cure Discussion / Re: This Twilight Garden (Gree...
Last post by OptimaX - November 26, 2022, 16:50:06
Would definitely be on the Deluxe edition of Wish if it was an official track.
#6
General The Cure Discussion / Re: Tell me you are a Curefan ...
Last post by OptimaX - November 26, 2022, 16:35:03
I'm replying to this post.
#7
2022 / Re: 2022.11.23 Antwerpen - Spo...
Last post by Trust... - November 25, 2022, 21:29:02
What a fantastic concert! Great sound, setlist. I had a strange optical illusion during the concert.

I can't remember the song but on the screen after, there where moving falling something? And it looks like Jason was going up with his drums.

Now I'm sure that it was no brain issue. It was a motion after effect 😀 Great experience
#8
Other Artists / Re: Currently Listening to
Last post by MeltingMan - November 25, 2022, 18:45:45
#9
2022 / Re: 2022.12.04 Glasgow - OVO H...
Last post by dsanchez - November 25, 2022, 16:09:29
Table booked for Glasgow pre-drinks from 16h00 on Sunday 4th December at Taphouse Bar & Kitchen, directions:

https://goo.gl/maps/4HNTAz5jXDEoM1HM8

Take cure!
#10
2022 / Re: Euro22 Pre-Drinks
Last post by dsanchez - November 25, 2022, 16:08:35
Please notice the pre-drinks meetup has changed to the Taphouse Bar & Kitchen