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Title: Weather extremes
Post by: j on August 11, 2007, 05:28:50
I know that Caley experiences this as well, but do other parts of the world go through this?  In the winter, we sometimes get down to 0 degrees F (-18C) and in the summer, we can hit 100 F + (38C) plus 80-90% humidity. 

The thing that brought this up is that yesterday the high temp here was 98 F (37 C).  Tonight the low temperature is forecast to be 52 F (11 C)....a 46 degree difference in just over 24 hours!

Does anyone else go through such temperature extremes?
Title: Re: Weather extremes
Post by: iwannashagsimon on August 11, 2007, 07:41:38
I live near Chicago and we have some temperature extremes.  Luckily lately everything has been near normal.  Maybe just 7 or so degrees above. In fact we should be back to normal temps next week thanks to a cold front coming in from Canada. But nothing real extreme like back in 1995.

Our summers can reach 100F(38C) with 100% humidity. And the heat indexes make it feel like someone opened an oven.  In winter we can get to 30F(-1C).  Then you gotta factor in the wind chill that can make it feel colder!

Those temps are just for Arlington Heights...no idea about Chicago or the rest of the state.




Title: Re: Weather extremes
Post by: japanesebaby on August 11, 2007, 09:12:16
well i surely do: i live in helsinki, in the southermost finland and the peaks in the summer can be around +30 C (86 F) and in the winter -30C (-22F) is possible.  and i do remember experiencing -35 C (-31 F) too but only maybe two or three times in my life. yet for the people living in the northern parts of finland -35C is a regular visitor.
the extremes won't take place all the time, not even regularly every year. and especially not here on the coast - it's the inland folks who always get more extremes. so i'd say +25 C (77 F) for the summer and -25C (-13 F) for the winter is something you can always count on around here. and since i live on the coast we often have to add the effect of the wind too, which can easily make something like a "common" -15 C (5 F) to feel like -30C.

the oridinary "hot" summer weather here is around +25 C -+27 C or a bit over (around 80 F). we've been having this for about a week lately, which is really nice because the whole of july was rather rainy and clowdy only around +20 C (68 F) at max.
i'm not sure about the average humidity here, but i'd assume it's not as heavy around here than it seems to be over there.

our whole climate is made bearable by the existence of the so called gulf stream:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulf_Stream
without that i'm sure we'd urely freezy our asses off around here in a minute!  ;)
Title: Re: Weather extremes
Post by: crowbi_wan on August 11, 2007, 21:13:45
Quote from: japanesebaby on August 11, 2007, 09:12:16
july was rather rainy and clowdy only around +20 C (68 F) at max.


That sounds like the summer I've been having in Seattle.  Okay, sure Seattle does get a lot of rain.  Usually our summers are quite nice.  This year has just been shitty.  And not just this summer.  The whole year has been just awful.  More sno, more rain, and colder temps then any year I can remember. 

At the opposite end of the spectrum, I've speant some time in Saudi where the highs reached 130.  Strange thing is that I'd see people wearing jackets when the temp dropped at night (to around 70).  Now, 70 degrees isn't cold to me.  In fact that's right about where I like.  But when you drop 40-50 degrees, well that's huge.  Once I climatized, I too was wearing my winter jacket in the evenings.  Back home I'm wearing shorts when it's 70. 
Title: Re: Weather extremes
Post by: dsanchez on August 12, 2007, 21:41:59
Where I live (Lima, Peru), humidity is really high. It's usually among 90%-100% and so sometimes I wonder if we are like fishes  :?. We are really breathing water.

The current winter is the coldest we ever had here. It's around 13 C - 15 C. Yes, it seems not that cold, but because humdity is so high, it DOES feels cold. In anothers parts of Peru (hihglands and around the Titicaca Lake area) it's too cold. Unfortunately, people who lives there is very poor and they dont have the nice warm jackets we usually can afford. Weather there is -10 C to -20 C sometimes. 
Title: Re: Weather extremes
Post by: japanesebaby on November 25, 2008, 00:18:36
we got the first snow storm here - nice!  :)

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3234/3057308410_3dab543dba.jpg?v=0)

don't forget where you left your bike...

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3186/3056466703_1ee21e7d23.jpg?v=0)

it really snowed quite a lot, mountains of snow everywhere:

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3169/3057303922_2e811b92a4.jpg?v=0)



Title: Re: Weather extremes
Post by: crowbi_wan on November 25, 2008, 03:08:45
I hate the snow.  Yuck!  Living somewhere that gets more than a few inches of snow before it melts away is not something i would be interested in.  Even a snowy vacation spot doesnt sound like much fun to me. 
Title: Re: Weather extremes
Post by: nausearockpig on November 25, 2008, 08:26:42
I've never seen or touched snow. real snow that is, i've seen photos...
Title: Re: Weather extremes
Post by: japanesebaby on November 25, 2008, 09:47:01
uhh sorry to cause such negative sentiments.

Quote from: crowbi_wan on November 25, 2008, 03:08:45
I hate the snow.  Yuck!

:? really?
well i wouldn't love to live in antarctica either or something but i really do love having all four seasons: snowy winter, +30C in the summer, "proper" springs and autumns there in between those two. one must have the extremes, otherwise it doesn't feel like it's quite right.

Quote from: nausearockpig on November 25, 2008, 08:26:42
I've never seen or touched snow.

is that so?  :shock:


some very good things about snow:

- it brings so much more light, when it's white all around. pure new snow is simply beautiful. it makes you feel good.

- it's not often talked about but snow has a really tremendous acoustical effect, especially in the cities: it really smoothes down the noise of cars etc., makes it all hugely bearable. the city is "at it's loudest" when the streets are wet - all noises are raw and sharp, quite violently enhanced. so autumn can be both loud (literally) and gloomy (because of shorter days.
but then the snow comes in and it's bliss to the ear and eye. :)

Title: Re: Weather extremes
Post by: nausearockpig on November 25, 2008, 11:59:47
yup I'm a snow virgin...
interesting that snow has acoustic properties as described.. never thought about it...
Title: Re: Weather extremes
Post by: crowbi_wan on November 25, 2008, 18:32:27
Quote from: japanesebaby on November 25, 2008, 09:47:01
uhh sorry to cause such negative sentiments.

Quote from: crowbi_wan on November 25, 2008, 03:08:45
I hate the snow.  Yuck!

:? really?
well i wouldn't love to live in antarctica either or something but i really do love having all four seasons: snowy winter, +30C in the summer, "proper" springs and autumns there in between those two. one must have the extremes, otherwise it doesn't feel like it's quite right.




Ah, but that's the exact reason I love the Pacific Northwest.  All four of our seasons are ideal (though some will complain about the rain we get during fall/winter) Sure, Seattle doesn't become some winter wonderland, but the outer lying areas get snow, often lots of it.  We have mountains all around us for those that partake in skiing/snowboarding.  Just that in the city, it is extremely difficult to get around when driving on some snow-packed streets.  That's my biggest concern during the snowy season.  I'll admit a fresh coating of snow does look beautiful, though.  It's when it lingers, or begins to melt and then freezes when it starts to look pretty gross.  But then I suppose Helsinki just keeps getting covered up with a fresh coat, making it picturesque once more.  We really don't get that continuous snow fall.         
 
Title: Re: Weather extremes
Post by: japanesebaby on November 25, 2008, 21:08:27
Quote from: crowbi_wan on November 25, 2008, 18:32:27
Quote from: japanesebaby on November 25, 2008, 09:47:01
uhh sorry to cause such negative sentiments.

Quote from: crowbi_wan on November 25, 2008, 03:08:45
I hate the snow.  Yuck!

:? really?
well i wouldn't love to live in antarctica either or something but i really do love having all four seasons: snowy winter, +30C in the summer, "proper" springs and autumns there in between those two. one must have the extremes, otherwise it doesn't feel like it's quite right.




Ah, but that's the exact reason I love the Pacific Northwest.  All four of our seasons are ideal (though some will complain about the rain we get during fall/winter) Sure, Seattle doesn't become some winter wonderland, but the outer lying areas get snow, often lots of it.  We have mountains all around us for those that partake in skiing/snowboarding.  Just that in the city, it is extremely difficult to get around when driving on some snow-packed streets.  That's my biggest concern during the snowy season.  I'll admit a fresh coating of snow does look beautiful, though.  It's when it lingers, or begins to melt and then freezes when it starts to look pretty gross.  But then I suppose Helsinki just keeps getting covered up with a fresh coat, making it picturesque once more.  We really don't get that continuous snow fall.         
 


yeah but a winter with lots of rain is not a real winter! winter means snow, ice and frost - in short: COLD. ;)
otherwise it's just some sort of prolonged autumn that in the end slowly turns into spring. that's something i really don't enjoy at all. it's neither autumn nor spring and it surely isn't winter.  :?

helsinki actually does suffer a bit from being on a coast (since the proximity of the sea means a bit warmer temperatures). it's much better a bit more inland, they have a lot better snow coverage there every year. i grew up in there and sometimes i really miss that. especially in recent years we've had just way too many "english winters" here (that's what people here call it sometimes - no offense to the english): meaning cold and damp and rainy but little snow. that's something i really dislike. :x winter rain is just the most depressing thing ever.
Title: Re: Weather extremes
Post by: nausearockpig on November 25, 2008, 22:14:51
we have about four weeks of super mild winter in Brisbane. apart from that it's either hot or temperate...
Title: Re: Weather extremes
Post by: lostflower4 on November 26, 2008, 06:48:22
Quote from: japanesebaby on November 25, 2008, 09:47:01
Quote from: crowbi_wan on November 25, 2008, 03:08:45
I hate the snow.  Yuck!
:? really?
well i wouldn't love to live in antarctica either or something but i really do love having all four seasons: snowy winter, +30C in the summer, "proper" springs and autumns there in between those two. one must have the extremes, otherwise it doesn't feel like it's quite right.


Really?  :lol:

Being from Iowa, we have the most extreme of extremes from season to season to season (not much different than Illinois, I'm sure). It's been "winter-like" for a couple weeks now, and I'm already sick of it and eagerly looking forward to spring/summer.

Alright, snow can look nice... I'll admit that. But I'd give it up in a heartbeat it in order to avoid the friggin' COLD weather. Besides, you can always go on vacation or look at photos if you really "need" it.  ;)

But really, I mainly see winter as an annoyance. Just think of all the traffic accidents that snow causes. Or people freezing to death out in the middle of nowhere (almost happened to me once). So I just can't think too fondly of it, sorry.

Hmmm... So why do I live here?  That's a good question.  :eek:
Title: Re: Weather extremes
Post by: j on November 26, 2008, 14:01:37
Quote from: lostflower4 on November 26, 2008, 06:48:22
Hmmm... So why do I live here?  That's a good question.  :eek:


We've all been wondering about that, too Caley!

We have alot of the extremes in PA that you have in Iowa, but not as severe.  Like you, it has been cold here for a couple weeks and have had snow a few times.  Right now I am working in the Poconos (Pennsylvania mountains- part of the Appalachians) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Poconos - and the drive into the higher elevtions equals more snow.

Of course the summers get friggin hot as well with 90% humidity.  Not sure which I despise more- the heat and humidity or the bitter cold!
Title: Re: Weather extremes
Post by: japanesebaby on November 26, 2008, 20:24:36
Quote from: lostflower4 on November 26, 2008, 06:48:22
Quote from: japanesebaby on November 25, 2008, 09:47:01
Quote from: crowbi_wan on November 25, 2008, 03:08:45
I hate the snow.  Yuck!
:? really?
well i wouldn't love to live in antarctica either or something but i really do love having all four seasons: snowy winter, +30C in the summer, "proper" springs and autumns there in between those two. one must have the extremes, otherwise it doesn't feel like it's quite right.


Really?  :lol:


what's so funny about it?  :?
Title: Re: Weather extremes
Post by: crowbi_wan on December 20, 2008, 17:43:30
It looks like much of the US is experiencing some pretty harsh weather.  Here in Seattle our Winter Solstice festival was postponed due to too much winter weather.  Go figure.

Maybe some of you saw this clip on the news of a bus crash:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ddbV2z39G4&feature=related

:shock:


It is so damn icy out right now and it's only going to get worse.  More snow/rain and below freezing temperatures are expected throughout the week and into next.  Even worse, high winds are expected tonight which always results in downed power lines in some areas.  Currently it's 17 F.  Yikes!  It's not supposed to get that cold here!     
Title: Re: Weather extremes
Post by: j on December 20, 2008, 20:55:11
Maybe now isn't the time for me to mention that I am in sunny central Florida for a week. It is a beautiful 80 F!
Title: Re: Weather extremes
Post by: crowbi_wan on December 20, 2008, 20:59:22
j, you suck!

But hey, I'll be in Puerto Vallarta for a week shortly after Xmas.  :-D
Title: Re: Weather extremes
Post by: nausearockpig on December 21, 2008, 00:14:03
It's pretty much summer weather here in Bris-vegas 9 months of the year... it does get stinking hot from October to Feb here. muggy too...

Sydney and Melbourne both have extreme heat but more normal seasons than Brisbane..
Title: Re: Weather extremes
Post by: crowbi_wan on December 21, 2008, 00:23:56
Quote from: nausearockpig on December 21, 2008, 00:14:03
Bris-vegas


Speaking of Vegas...

(http://www.huffingtonpost.com/huff-wires/20081218/western-weather/images/ff50947b-d7f5-447c-bddc-03d26a5819ee.jpg)

Even they got some snow earlier this week.  3.6 inches!  :eek:
Title: Re: Weather extremes
Post by: lostflower4 on December 21, 2008, 12:22:41
Quote from: crowbi_wan on December 20, 2008, 17:43:30It is so damn icy out right now and it's only going to get worse.  More snow/rain and below freezing temperatures are expected throughout the week and into next.  Even worse, high winds are expected tonight which always results in downed power lines in some areas.  Currently it's 17 F.  Yikes!  It's not supposed to get that cold here!


When I went out yesterday afternoon it was -3° F (that's -20° C for our friends from other parts of the world).  :x

I haven't been keeping any stats, but I can pretty much tell you that we've already had more snow this year than we did all of last year!

Title: Re: Weather extremes
Post by: dsanchez on December 22, 2008, 01:33:33
Quote from: lostflower4 on December 21, 2008, 12:22:41
When I went out yesterday afternoon it was -20° C


:?
Title: Re: Weather extremes
Post by: nausearockpig on December 22, 2008, 06:58:03
Holy crap!
Title: Re: Weather extremes
Post by: lostflower4 on December 22, 2008, 15:33:32
Quote from: dsanchez on December 22, 2008, 01:33:33
Quote from: lostflower4 on December 21, 2008, 12:22:41
When I went out yesterday afternoon it was -20° C


:?


That seems like nothing now...

Current temperature is -18° F (-28° C).
Title: Re: Weather extremes
Post by: fiction on December 25, 2008, 14:03:51
Well I live in Uppsala, in the east part of Sweden and here the temperatures varies from around -30C (rather cold) in the winter and up to +30-35C during the summer. As I will remember it, it used to be more snow during our winters some ten years ago. As it is now the snow just tends to fall, melt and float away as water. Sometimes during the winter it rain as often as it snows. But those times the temperature isn´t that cold of course.
Title: Re: Weather extremes
Post by: nausearockpig on December 25, 2008, 15:51:08
Quote from: lostflower4 on December 22, 2008, 15:33:32
Current temperature is -18° F (-28° C).


How the HELL do you people live in these conditions? How do you function?
Title: Re: Weather extremes
Post by: dsanchez on December 25, 2008, 16:59:56
Quote from: lostflower4 on December 22, 2008, 15:33:32
Current temperature is -28° C


:? :?

(here's 2°C and I'm yet complaining!)
Title: Re: Weather extremes
Post by: iwannashagsimon on December 28, 2008, 11:27:09
Nothing realy extreme about today's weather--if it was in the spring!  It got to a record high of 61 F(16 C)with a tornado watch that supposedly produced 5 tornadoes (they haven't been confirmed yet).  And now it's currently 27 F(-2 C) with snow.
Title: Re: Weather extremes
Post by: japanesebaby on January 06, 2009, 08:04:07
we've been having around -15 C (5 F) for almost a week now and actually i really like it. it's nothing extreme but i like it because it's  some real winter, not some pussy kind of winter (sorry :-P).

(that vegas pic was weird!)
Title: Re: Weather extremes
Post by: nausearockpig on January 06, 2009, 08:46:08
Quote from: japanesebaby on January 06, 2009, 08:04:07
but i like it because it's  some real winter, not some pussy kind of winter (sorry :-P).


Ha! That's funny..

I'd be a contender for pussy winter for sure.. I whine when it gets down to +10C! We have a lot of warm weather here, 9 mths of the year are warm to hot..
Title: Re: Weather extremes
Post by: dsanchez on January 09, 2009, 09:19:26
:?

http://uk.reuters.com/article/latestCrisis/idUKL72936

Thousands shiver in Europe's big chill

PARIS, Jan 7 (Reuters) - Temperatures plunged to record lows in Germany and heavy snow forced normally sunny Marseille to close its international airport as freezing winter weather gripped much of Europe on Wednesday.

Port authorities in the Dutch city of Rotterdam deployed an icebreaking ship for the first time 12 years, while in Britain forecasters issued a new severe weather warning.

In the Balkans, thousands shivered in their homes after gas supplies to southeastern Europe were cut as a result of a contract dispute between Russia and Ukraine, reminding many of the freezing winters they endured in the wars of the 1990s.

"It all reminds me of the war when we were freezing, except there is no shooting," said Hilmo Celjo, who stood in a queue near the Bosnian capital Sarajevo to buy wood and coal.

Temperatures sank to record lows in parts of Germany overnight. A weather station in the eastern state of Saxony said the coldest spot was -27.7 degrees Celsius.

Thick snow has covered much of the country and icebreakers were at work on several waterways, including the River Elbe in eastern Germany

"I'm wearing all my warmest clothes, I've got two pairs of socks on. Otherwise drinking hot cocoa helps. We've just been sitting in McDonald's," Cologne resident Florian Densing told Reuters Television.

A 77-year-old woman was found dead outside in the eastern city of Weimar on Monday. She appeared to have frozen to death after she had gone missing from her old people's home.

In France, temperatures dropped as low as -16 degrees Celsius on Wednesday in the north of country, while 40 cm of snow fell in the Marseille region in just a few hours.

Authorities blocked access to nearby motorways and 1,000 motorists were stuck in their cars awaiting rescue services.

Marseille's main Saint Charles train station was paralysed as signalling froze. School buses were cancelled in the entire Bouches du Rhone area, where Marseille is located.

France's Secretary of State for Transport, Dominique Bussereau, demanded an investigation into "unacceptable" chaos at Charles de Gaulle, where hundreds of flights were cancelled and thousands of passengers stranded earlier in the week.

In Albania, remote areas were blocked by heavy snow and isolated villages were being supplied with food by helicopters.

A religious ceremony in which believers plunge into an icy river to retrieve a holy cross was cancelled because of the cold. A hunter killed two wolves which had ventured near the northern Albanian town of Kukes. (Reporting by Catherine Hornby, Martina Fuchs, Jean-Francois Rosnoblet, Anna Mudeva, Maja Zuvela and Benet Koleka; Writing by Giles Elgood)
Title: Re: Weather extremes
Post by: japanesebaby on January 09, 2009, 11:07:28
Quote from: dsanchez on January 09, 2009, 09:19:26
:?

http://uk.reuters.com/article/latestCrisis/idUKL72936

Thousands shiver in Europe's big chill....


gotta love the climate change...
Title: Re: Weather extremes
Post by: dsanchez on January 09, 2009, 11:46:32
Quote from: japanesebaby on January 06, 2009, 08:04:07
not some pussy kind of winter (sorry :-P).


well, I think I rather stay with the pussy winter in Lima, Peru (the coldest we had was +13 C) :D rather than this cold european -7 C winter :?

but here in Europe are the concerts, so i can handle it :P
Title: Re: Weather extremes
Post by: japanesebaby on January 09, 2009, 12:15:48
Quote from: dsanchez on January 09, 2009, 11:46:32
(the coldest we had was +13 C)


here when the temperature stays above +10 C it's officially considered the beginning of summer (it's called the beginning of the "thermal summer" when defined this way)... the length of this "thermic summer" is about 3-4 months. for the rest of the year it's below +10C on average.
so it looks like you don't actually have a pussy winter in peru - you just have 12 months of summer!

Title: Re: Weather extremes
Post by: nausearockpig on January 09, 2009, 12:18:58
Quote from: japanesebaby on January 09, 2009, 12:15:48
Quote from: dsanchez on January 09, 2009, 11:46:32
(the coldest we had was +13 C)


here when the temperature stays above +10 C it's officially considered the beginning of summer (it's called the beginning of the "thermal summer" when defined this way)... the length of this "thermic summer" is about 3-4 months. for the rest of the year it's below +10C on average.
so it looks like you don't actually have a pussy winter in peru - you just have 12 months of summer!




That's f*cking insane. Living like that I mean, not the comment or the fact above!
Title: Re: Weather extremes
Post by: dsanchez on January 11, 2009, 00:42:50
Quote from: japanesebaby on January 09, 2009, 12:15:48
so it looks like you don't actually have a pussy winter in peru - you just have 12 months of summer!


Peru has three different regions, so it depends.

In the coast of Peru (where Lima is), maybe we have "12 months summers", altought this is not true. Lima is a very humide city, with 99% humidity all the time, so even thought "+13 C" seems not that cold, it feels cold because of that

In the jungle (where the Amazon river is) is mostly all the time summer (+25 or above)

However, in the sierra (highlands), it can be f*cking cold. Specially in the last years, the area near the Titicaca Lake have been affected with a very, extreme cold winter, including -5 or -20 C of temperatura, snow and ice. The worst of all, is that people in this area have not the nice warm clothes for a hard winter. It's very sad to see children not wearing proper shoes or dress (see photo below), sleeping in houses without the appropiate heating

(http://www.radiomelodia.com.pe/admin/editor/UserFiles/Image/friaje.jpg)
Title: Re: Weather extremes
Post by: fiction on January 11, 2009, 01:12:59
Today my shade drank anti-freeze.
Title: Re: Weather extremes
Post by: lostflower4 on January 16, 2009, 08:21:45
When I went outside yesterday morning it was -24° F (-31° C).  :smth009

Hopefully this record will stand for the rest of the year!

Title: Re: Weather extremes
Post by: fiction on January 16, 2009, 09:27:25
Quote from: lostflower4 on January 16, 2009, 08:21:45
When I went outside yesterday morning it was -24° F (-31° C).  :smth009

Hopefully this record will stand for the rest of the year!




It´s the same tempeterature as in the northern parts of Sweden right now. But it seems that the mercury is on its way down. Let´s hope for that.
Title: Re: Weather extremes
Post by: dsanchez on January 16, 2009, 09:45:21
Quote from: lostflower4 on January 16, 2009, 08:21:45
When I went outside yesterday morning it was -24° F (-31° C).  :smth009


Didn't know you move to Siberia :?
Title: Re: Weather extremes
Post by: japanesebaby on March 14, 2009, 20:30:39
it must be spring here: it was sunny and it stayed above zero all day today:  +2C. :D
the first day i discarded my winter coat and moved over to my "spring collection". :-P
Title: Re: Weather extremes
Post by: Trust... on March 14, 2009, 20:34:51
Quote from: japanesebaby on March 14, 2009, 20:30:39
it must be spring here: it was sunny and it stayed above zero all day today:  +2C. :D
the first day i discarded my winter coat and moved over to my "spring collection". :-P


+2C and alleady spring collection ??? Nice to hear it's up to zero  :smth023
Title: Re: Weather extremes
Post by: alwaysprayingforRAIN on March 26, 2009, 17:29:15
Quote from: japanesebaby on March 14, 2009, 20:30:39
it must be spring here: it was sunny and it stayed above zero all day today:  +2C. :D
the first day i discarded my winter coat and moved over to my "spring collection". :-P


and i thought it was cold here!!! about 1°-8 ° C although it did snow yesterday.. just weird it's supposed to be spring
i want flowers and sun dammit!!!! :?
Title: Re: Weather extremes
Post by: japanesebaby on March 26, 2009, 23:24:50
Quote from: alwaysprayingforRAIN on March 26, 2009, 17:29:15
i want flowers and sun dammit!!!! :?


me too!  :smth091
it's been really cold (early) spring here, after the first few sunny days it's turned pretty cold again. and now the forecast for the weekend says.... -2C and snow. :?
Title: Re: Weather extremes
Post by: alwaysprayingforRAIN on March 27, 2009, 19:51:00
Quote from: japanesebaby on March 26, 2009, 23:24:50
Quote from: alwaysprayingforRAIN on March 26, 2009, 17:29:15
i want flowers and sun dammit!!!! :?


me too!  :smth091
it's been really cold (early) spring here, after the first few sunny days it's turned pretty cold again. and now the forecast for the weekend says.... -2C and snow. :?


great!!! :shock:
i have a lot of flowers inside and they bloom faster in the warmth. otherwise i wouldn't survive winter :smth006

wish you a lot of sun!!!!!
Title: Re: Weather extremes
Post by: japanesebaby on March 29, 2009, 07:10:11
indeed it was snowing all day yesterday...
(pot narcissus outside a cafe yesterday - clearly saying: "please take us inside..  :?"

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3644/3392147536_564b051216.jpg?v=0))


Quote from: alwaysprayingforRAIN on March 27, 2009, 19:51:00
i have a lot of flowers inside and they bloom faster in the warmth. otherwise i wouldn't survive winter :smth006


another good remedy in winter is to go to the botanical gardens - i love the palm rooms and the pond with giant water lilies:

(http://farm1.static.flickr.com/133/353118954_3c3451df32.jpg?v=0)
Title: Re: Weather extremes
Post by: alwaysprayingforRAIN on March 29, 2009, 11:40:42
Quote from: japanesebaby on March 29, 2009, 07:10:11

Quote from: alwaysprayingforRAIN on March 27, 2009, 19:51:00
i have a lot of flowers inside and they bloom faster in the warmth. otherwise i wouldn't survive winter :smth006


another good remedy in winter is to go to the botanical gardens - i love the palm rooms and the pond with giant water lilies:

(http://farm1.static.flickr.com/133/353118954_3c3451df32.jpg?v=0)


omg thats beautiful, never seen anything like that   :)
i usually go to the big aquarium we have in cologne and look at the tropical fish^^
Title: Re: Weather extremes
Post by: japanesebaby on March 29, 2009, 21:01:17
Quote from: alwaysprayingforRAIN on March 29, 2009, 11:40:42
i usually go to the big aquarium we have in cologne and look at the tropical fish^^


that sounds sweet.
btw since this isn't exactly weather-related (but it's my fault for derailing :oops:), i thought about making a thread for this sort of things
- > http://curefans.com/index.php/topic,6096.new.html
;)
Title: Re: Weather extremes
Post by: crowbi_wan on April 01, 2009, 18:57:02
I think Mother Nature is playing some sort of April Fools joke on Seattle.  It's snowing!  :twisted:
Title: Re: Weather extremes
Post by: Trust... on April 01, 2009, 20:02:38
Quote from: crowbi_wan on April 01, 2009, 18:57:02
I think Mother Nature is playing some sort of April Fools joke on Seattle.  It's snowing!  :twisted:


:shock: and the world is warming up ??? Understand who can understand  :?  :roll:

BTW in Belgium it's spring and we have a 15°C this afternoon.
Title: Re: Weather extremes
Post by: lostflower4 on April 24, 2009, 03:16:12
Quote from: lostflower4 on January 16, 2009, 08:21:45When I went outside yesterday morning it was -24° F (-31° C).  :smth009

Hopefully this record will stand for the rest of the year!


It did... And now we've got 90° F (32° C).  Can you say weather extremes?  :shock:

A "bit" warmer than I'd prefer, but I'd take this over freezing weather ANY day!
Title: Re: Weather extremes
Post by: crowbi_wan on July 30, 2009, 05:37:39
Record breaking temperature today in Seattle.  102°F (39°C)  :shock:  I read this is only the third time the city has had 5 consecutive days in the 90s or above.  We had the worst winter I can remember this year and now this extreme heat.   :smth011 
Title: Re: Weather extremes
Post by: alwaysprayingforRAIN on August 21, 2009, 23:24:40
Quote from: crowbi_wan on July 30, 2009, 05:37:39
Record breaking temperature today in Seattle.  102°F (39°C)  :shock:  I read this is only the third time the city has had 5 consecutive days in the 90s or above.  We had the worst winter I can remember this year and now this extreme heat.   :smth011 


same here. we came close to the record ( 35°) man i though i would die...
now it's raining thank god!
Title: Re: Weather extremes
Post by: japanesebaby on January 03, 2010, 21:21:33
http://yle.fi/uutiset/news/2009/12/more_snow_in_southern_finland_than_since_the_60s_1333669.html (http://yle.fi/uutiset/news/2009/12/more_snow_in_southern_finland_than_since_the_60s_1333669.html)

now at Helsinki-Vantaa airport is presently at a near record. A depth of 42 centimetres of snow was measured at the airport Thursday, more than since 1966.
In general, southern parts of the country now have as much snow as does Lapland, ranging between 25 and 50 centimetres of snowcover.
Since 1971, wintertime snowcover in the Helsinki and Turku areas has averaged around 10 centimetres. The last winter during which the south of the country received heavy snowfall was in 2003.
The deepest snowcover in southern areas was seen in 1966, when 52 centimetres was registered in Helsinki. At present, the official depth of snow in the capital is 27cm.

Title: Re: Weather extremes
Post by: crowbi_wan on January 03, 2010, 21:40:13
Quote from: japanesebaby on January 03, 2010, 21:21:33
http://yle.fi/uutiset/news/2009/12/more_snow_in_southern_finland_than_since_the_60s_1333669.html (http://yle.fi/uutiset/news/2009/12/more_snow_in_southern_finland_than_since_the_60s_1333669.html)

now at Helsinki-Vantaa airport is presently at a near record. A depth of 42 centimetres of snow was measured at the airport Thursday, more than since 1966.
In general, southern parts of the country now have as much snow as does Lapland, ranging between 25 and 50 centimetres of snowcover.
Since 1971, wintertime snowcover in the Helsinki and Turku areas has averaged around 10 centimetres. The last winter during which the south of the country received heavy snowfall was in 2003.
The deepest snowcover in southern areas was seen in 1966, when 52 centimetres was registered in Helsinki. At present, the official depth of snow in the capital is 27cm.




Pretty crazy there.  That picture of the bicycle reminds me of one I took of my car last year about this time.  Thankfully we're not experiencing the same winter weather we had 12 months ago!  Some pleasant days lately (highs in the upper 40s/low 50s F) and looks to stay the same according to the 10-day forecast.
Title: Re: Weather extremes
Post by: crowbi_wan on January 07, 2010, 15:18:36
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100107/ap_on_bi_ge/us_winter_weather (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100107/ap_on_bi_ge/us_winter_weather)

Wow.  I can't even imagine what it's like to live in such conditions. 
Title: Re: Weather extremes
Post by: jbud1980 on January 07, 2010, 15:55:06
guess i shouldn't be complaining about the high of 73 today...

probably going surfing after work too  :P
Title: Re: Weather extremes
Post by: japanesebaby on January 07, 2010, 18:14:04
Quote from: jbud1980 on January 07, 2010, 15:55:06
probably going surfing after work too  :P


how odd to think of that...  :P
it's been snowing here again all day today, the traffic is starting to get messed up, lots of busses and trams are either cancelled or running late. 

it's been really cold recently in the whole of scandinavia. i just read today that it's been something like -40 C (-40C) in norway and close to that in some parts of sweden too.
Title: Re: Weather extremes
Post by: japanesebaby on January 07, 2010, 18:40:23
Quote from: jbud1980 on January 07, 2010, 15:55:06
probably going surfing after work too  :P


which reminded me, i went to my local beach (on the seaside) yesterday. great for surfing?  :P

some people really go swimming there, there's a pump circulating the water right beside the stairs so that the hole in the ice won't freeze up.
everywhere else the sea ice is so thick that you can walk around on the ice wherever you please.

(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4020/4253782335_acda582b6c_o.jpg)


ps. something funny with the attachments... can't attach a pic to a post.
Title: Re: Weather extremes
Post by: alwaysprayingforRAIN on January 07, 2010, 21:42:02
Quote from: jbud1980 on January 07, 2010, 15:55:06
guess i shouldn't be complaining about the high of 73 today...

probably going surfing after work too  :P


HA!!! at least we had a white christmas, that's gotta count for something!!! :D

there is supposed to be a huge snow storm tomorrow and everybody's panicking, buying food for a week and so on....

i bet it's going to be nothing compared to Finland though ;)
Title: Re: Weather extremes
Post by: Trust... on January 07, 2010, 21:51:40
Quote from: alwaysprayingforRAIN on January 07, 2010, 21:42:02
Quote from: jbud1980 on January 07, 2010, 15:55:06
guess i shouldn't be complaining about the high of 73 today...

probably going surfing after work too  :P


HA!!! at least we had a white christmas, that's gotta count for something!!! :D

there is supposed to be a huge snow storm tomorrow and everybody's panicking, buying food for a week and so on....

i bet it's going to be nothing compared to Finland though ;)



Here in Belgium also  :lol:, a lot off snow on Saturday and Sunday, and the whole country is out off "salt" for the roads, they already used more then usual on a normal winter  :roll:

And after what I saw in Finland on my vacation I find my country so stupid  :oops:
Title: Re: Weather extremes
Post by: jbud1980 on January 08, 2010, 02:52:34
Quote from: Trust... on January 07, 2010, 21:51:40
Quote from: alwaysprayingforRAIN on January 07, 2010, 21:42:02
Quote from: jbud1980 on January 07, 2010, 15:55:06
guess i shouldn't be complaining about the high of 73 today...

probably going surfing after work too  :P


HA!!! at least we had a white christmas, that's gotta count for something!!! :D

there is supposed to be a huge snow storm tomorrow and everybody's panicking, buying food for a week and so on....

i bet it's going to be nothing compared to Finland though ;)



Here in Belgium also  :lol:, a lot off snow on Saturday and Sunday, and the whole country is out off "salt" for the roads, they already used more then usual on a normal winter  :roll:

And after what I saw in Finland on my vacation I find my country so stupid  :oops:


we don't get snow out here, gotta drive a couple hours to get to the mountains. if it's any consolation, the water was quite cold and my wetsuit was not enough protection, so i had to cut surfing short. :(
Title: Re: Weather extremes
Post by: japanesebaby on January 09, 2010, 15:33:11
Quote from: jbud1980 on January 08, 2010, 02:52:34
the water was quite cold and my wetsuit was not enough protection, so i had to cut surfing short. :(


some crazy people don't give up their summer hobbies here, no matter how cold it gets (scroll down a bit, there are water ski pics after the bird pics):
http://leppavirta.blogspot.com/2010/01/kohti-kesaa.html (http://leppavirta.blogspot.com/2010/01/kohti-kesaa.html)

(pics ©ATToivanen).

when asked if it was cold, the guy on the water skis said: "well i forgot to fully close the zipper of my wet suit so yeah, a bit".  :eek:

also, an otter had came to say hello to the skier guy in the icy water. ;)
Title: Re: Weather extremes
Post by: jbud1980 on January 10, 2010, 01:46:27
Quote from: japanesebaby on January 09, 2010, 15:33:11
Quote from: jbud1980 on January 08, 2010, 02:52:34
the water was quite cold and my wetsuit was not enough protection, so i had to cut surfing short. :(


some crazy people don't give up their summer hobbies here, no matter how cold it gets (scroll down a bit, there are water ski pics after the bird pics):
http://leppavirta.blogspot.com/2010/01/kohti-kesaa.html (http://leppavirta.blogspot.com/2010/01/kohti-kesaa.html)

(pics ©ATToivanen).

when asked if it was cold, the guy on the water skis said: "well i forgot to fully close the zipper of my wet suit so yeah, a bit".  :eek:

also, an otter had came to say hello to the skier guy in the icy water. ;)


wow, how absolutely gorgeous it is, and it wouldn't surprise me if the otter thought the guy was a mate, for we can sometimes look like otters/seals in our wetsuits, lol.
Title: Re: Weather extremes
Post by: alwaysprayingforRAIN on January 31, 2010, 10:51:31
We have half a meter of snow outside. i mean that probably isn't that much for people from Finland or so, but for us germans HALF A METRE means we are stuck at home and can't go anywhere, because you can't even see where the street is supposed to be... and it's still snowing!
Title: Re: Weather extremes
Post by: Trust... on January 31, 2010, 16:25:06
Quote from: alwaysprayingforRAIN on January 31, 2010, 10:51:31
We have half a meter of snow outside. i mean that probably isn't that much for people from Finland or so, but for us germans HALF A METRE means we are stuck at home and can't go anywhere, because you can't even see where the street is supposed to be... and it's still snowing!


Time to chill  ;)
Title: Re: Weather extremes
Post by: crowbi_wan on February 13, 2010, 21:25:51
49 of the 50 US states received some snow yesterday.  Pretty rare happening there. 

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100213/ap_on_re_us/us_united_states_of_snow (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100213/ap_on_re_us/us_united_states_of_snow)

I've yet to see any snow this year in Seattle, though (knock on wood).  After the miserable winter we had last year, I'm all for that!

Title: Re: Weather extremes
Post by: PerfectBlueSkyDolls on February 18, 2010, 15:33:03
Our weather here is sh_t. we have weather very similar to England but our snow is majorly rediculous. We've had snow drifts tht have reached the second story of houses (no joke!)
If I could move somewhere in europe where is sunny & very warm most of the time, I would :roll:  :P
Title: Re: Weather extremes
Post by: japanesebaby on February 28, 2010, 20:07:07
we've had snow snow snow and more snow (until yesterday, when it was the first day with above 0°C (32°F) temperatures for over two months).

i've been following a couple of bikes outside my building, getting buried in the snow. only one of them was slightly visible anymore last week.
magpies think it's a nice place to sit and observe:

(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4027/4394965747_71d0e07691.jpg)

now even the last bike is completely buried. that pile of snow holds at least three bikes. :P

the local fire department recently asked citizens to please help clearing out the snow in the streets. because in case of fire/other emergency, they couldn't guarantee being able to get to all houses anymore as there are such huge piles of snow on the sidewalks and sides of the streets. most people complain about the snow all the time, but i've actually just enjoyed it a lot.

Title: Re: Weather extremes
Post by: crowbi_wan on March 20, 2010, 06:50:45
A beautiful 64F March Saturday in Seattle.  Two days later we get our first snow of the year on a day where the high was 37F.  The following day was back up around 58F.  That's Seattle for you.  Crazy weather!  We're looking at an expected high of 68F tomorrow.  Nice to see no cold/snow is expected in the 7-day forecast.  Time to break out the shorts.  ;)   
Title: Re: Weather extremes
Post by: japanesebaby on March 20, 2010, 06:54:12
Quote from: crowbi_wan on March 20, 2010, 06:50:45Time to break out the shorts.  ;)   


we still have almost two feet of snow here. :-P
Title: Re: Weather extremes
Post by: crowbi_wan on March 20, 2010, 07:00:23
Quote from: japanesebaby on March 20, 2010, 06:54:12
Quote from: crowbi_wan on March 20, 2010, 06:50:45Time to break out the shorts.  ;)   


we still have almost two feet of snow here. :-P


Weather extremes at their finest.  I'll be outside enjoying the sun.  I suppose you'll be out enjoying the snow and ice?
Title: Re: Weather extremes
Post by: fiction on March 20, 2010, 15:34:20
Today the spring struck Uppsala hard. The sun is warm and lots of motorcycles in traffic. The birds are arriving from the south of Europe and joggers doing it in t-shirts!
Title: Re: Weather extremes
Post by: fiction on March 21, 2010, 10:41:19
And today the wind is icing cold and the snow falls as tiny hailstones. Yesterday has to be one of the shortest periods of spring we ever had.

additional: Now it´s been snowing for more than three hours and what was green yesterday is today white again and it makes my mind somewhat black...
Title: Re: Weather extremes
Post by: crowbi_wan on March 21, 2010, 16:10:41
I hear you, fiction.  While the weather here in Seattle isn't as extreme as what you are experiencing, we've gone from an absolutely gorgeous 70F day to 50F and rain.  Today is more typical for this time of year.  That little bit of California sunshine sure was nice, even if only for a day.   
Title: Re: Weather extremes
Post by: lostflower4 on April 20, 2010, 02:00:17
Speaking of extremes... Here in Iowa (central U.S.) we've gone from this just a couple months ago:


(http://bloximages.chicago2.vip.townnews.com/siouxcityjournal.com/content/tncms/assets/editorial/a/5b/57b/a5b57bde-45ea-53b8-b620-7caaef9004d9.image.jpg?_dc=1262721645)

(that was the parking lot of a local grocery store)


...to 87°F (31°C) just the other day.  :eek:

Title: Re: Weather extremes
Post by: japanesebaby on August 08, 2010, 20:31:01
it feels totally surreal to look at all those pics of snow now  :shock:

last winter we had more snow than ever, now it's been followed by an abnormally hot summer (the heat record +37 C).
thanks to all the heat, the thunderstorms have been really powerful, with powerful downburst winds.
a downburst is not exactly similar to a tornado but it can cause similar kind of heavy damage, damaging buildings and destroying entire forests, breaking trees like matchsticks etc.

i was on the path of a downburst yesterday and it was far from fun, i've never experienced anything like that. for a moment it made one feel like it's the end of the world. :eek:

in other parts of the country, one camping site with mobile holiday homes was pretty much destroyed:

Asta-myrsky 2010 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fru-j4NO9Qs#)

also yesterday, a similar downburst caused serious damage on a music festival. the storm ripped off pieces of the main stage and a lot of people were injured by the flying debris, some critically:

http://www.yle.fi/uutiset/news/2010/08/injuries_at_sudden_storm_at_pori_music_festival_1888510.html (http://www.yle.fi/uutiset/news/2010/08/injuries_at_sudden_storm_at_pori_music_festival_1888510.html)

Title: Re: Weather extremes
Post by: alwaysprayingforRAIN on August 10, 2010, 20:41:58
honestly, when you turn on the news you see so much crazy shit going on these days i am not even surprised anymore.. let's bet what we get next: hurricane, flooding earthquake etc. etc.
Title: Re: Weather extremes
Post by: MeltingMan on January 26, 2018, 16:18:03
Today I saw a somewhat different 'weather extreme' en miniature: a bee on a fresh grave -
attracted by the flowers. Bees are rare and it's January - a miracle.  :)
Title: Re: Weather extremes
Post by: MeltingMan on January 27, 2018, 19:59:12
To be honest: I miss the snow in our region. It's not only that he reflects the sunlight
when the days are short and deadened the noise from the streets but he also covers
the muddy areas with plastic waste, especially after flooding. Uprooted trees are depressing
as well. We had a lot of them after the last storm. That's why I do prefer walks on the cemetery.
It looks bearable even without snow - good for my nerves.
Title: Re: Weather extremes
Post by: Ulrich on January 28, 2018, 11:14:02
Quote from: MeltingMan on January 27, 2018, 19:59:12
To be honest: I miss the snow in our region.


I don't. Well the rest of it is melting away now... We had a lot and my back/shoulders were already hurting from shovelling too much snow.  :roll:

But in general: if the whole winter were without snow, yes I would miss something...
Title: Re: Weather extremes
Post by: MeltingMan on January 29, 2018, 09:52:09
We had 20cm in mid December but only for a couple of days. I miss also 'proper' rain
at times. When you're listening to The Same Deep Water As You, you can hear that special rain.
Title: Re: Weather extremes
Post by: MeltingMan on February 28, 2018, 16:58:16
Finally winter over Northern Germany though he turned on its home straight.
Last Sunday I saw the clouds drifting by in opposite directions at different altitudes.
The wind chill is so strong that I could barely walk for 30 minutes (-8℃) under a cloudless
sky. Beautiful - but the skin in my face hurts too much. Now it's tea time at home...
Title: Re: Weather extremes
Post by: MeltingMan on April 13, 2018, 15:30:36
Intense rain. I was soaked to the skin.
Title: Re: Weather extremes
Post by: Ulrich on April 20, 2018, 09:56:58
It's unusually warm for April here - but I won't complain, so I can go outside later. Also there is kind of a family gathering at the weekend, so that should be nice(r) with nice weather.  :)
Title: Re: Weather extremes
Post by: A Strange Girl on April 21, 2018, 09:39:15
It already feels like summer..."The sun is up, I'm so happy I could scream"  :)
Title: Re: Weather extremes
Post by: MeltingMan on April 21, 2018, 11:03:39
Here too. The Germans are crazy for ice cream. Is it already summer??
Title: Re: Weather extremes
Post by: chemicaloverload on April 21, 2018, 14:30:33
It's sunny in Glasgow, finally!  :smth004

TAPS AFF
Title: Re: Weather extremes
Post by: MeltingMan on July 29, 2018, 12:35:17
This week was the hottest so far. I had 28℃ in the living room (ground floor)
and then it rained - finally. I opened the window and thanked G*d. That was
in the afternoon. At noon I had visited the cemetery as well. The oak trees are
loosing their acorns in large numbers. I could
see they're suffering. The grass - burned - and I was alone and it was very quiet.
No wind. No singing bird. Strange moment...
Title: Re: Weather extremes
Post by: Ulrich on July 30, 2018, 10:22:27
Yeah, it's becoming too hot and too dry. Can't do much about it (maybe "prayers for rain"...?)!
Title: Re: Weather extremes
Post by: MeltingMan on February 07, 2021, 16:05:42
After getting pretty wet on Friday, we now have at least 50cm of snow and freezing temperatures. Who would have thought? I shoveled snow this morning, but it didn't do much. It's still snowing and it's very windy. I stay at home. There was a severe weather warning for the region. 🥶
Title: Re: Weather extremes
Post by: Ulrich on February 07, 2021, 16:26:46
Quote from: MeltingMan on February 07, 2021, 16:05:42I shoveled snow this morning, but it didn't do much. It's still snowing and it's very windy.

I know the feeling, when you finished shoveling and could almost start again...

Quote from: MeltingMan on February 07, 2021, 16:05:42There was a severe weather warning for the region. 🥶

Heard about it. Here our snow was melting for days (rain/wind), but now it's colder again.

Yesterday we had a strange-looking yellow-greyish sky!
-> (pic from Stuttgart looks almost exactly like I saw it)
https://www.gmx.net/magazine/panorama/wetter/gelber-himmel-saharastaub-faerbt-himmel-sueden-deutschlands-schweiz-frankreich-35513596
Title: Re: Weather extremes
Post by: SueC on April 11, 2021, 11:23:39
@MeltingMan pointed out to me that something I posted as being very much on my mind would also fit into this topic.  Here's the link:  http://curefans.com/index.php?topic=8725.msg774643#msg774643

:)
Title: Re: Weather extremes
Post by: Ulrich on April 12, 2021, 09:34:58
Yesterday was nice and warm, today it snows (again)...  :unamused:
Title: Re: Weather extremes
Post by: SueC on June 22, 2021, 05:19:19
FLOODS AND MAYHEM

It's been an extreme winter here, after three years of drought. We only had 50-60% of normal annual rainfall here in 2018, 2019 and 2020, and now we've got one of the wettest winters on record, and this is not good news - it's too much water all at once turning low-lying and flat areas of the landscape into a bog for hundreds of square kilometres through this region. We drove to Denmark for a day out last week. crossing three rivers, and I've never seen them as high as they are now - my first year here was 1994 - they're almost up to the bottoms of the bridges, and all around the region the roadside drainage was full to the brim, in places running like whitewater and in others spilling out over the roadways.

We've had severe weather events at least once a week for the last six weeks or so - sleet, hail, torrential downpours, gale-force winds and accompanying livestock hypothermia warnings. On the weekend we had another; over 50mm (about 2 inches) of rain were dumped here in under 24 hours on the Sunday - and that's after a similar day the previous weekend, and other surrounding days with falls of 10-30mm. This is what our place looked like on Monday morning.

The farm dam has never been this high and is overflowing through the back.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51260479597_829e906303_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2m6HmGn)
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51261950534_9d0a5451bf_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2m6QTXm)

The seasonal wetlands in the bushland-covered valley floor are overflowing, and the water flow from these has eroded the bank in places (and also, I saw this morning, on our neighbour's dam, where water was still running over the eroding edges like a mini Niagara Falls).

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51260478282_9232f54dd2_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2m6HmiG)

This is taken off the dam wall - you can see it overflowing into the field, and how wet the whole landscape is:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51262250615_e12812c651_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2m6Sraa)
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51260476862_5aaec3cc5c_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2m6HkTd)

Water from this and the general load all across the landscape is making its way across the field into the roadside drainage ditch. The water is flowing towards the road on the north, and you can see it banking up along the fence because the roadside drainage ditch can't cope with it all:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51262249085_9a5e55e20b_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2m6SqGM)

This is our seasonal creek - usually nonexistent in summer, and a tiny thing in winter that horse or person can easily leap over. It takes excess water from the valley floor and its seasonal wetlands to the roadside drain.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51260475152_247b7a2da6_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2m6HknJ)
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51261946369_471380f46a_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2m6QSHx)

The valley floor is so oversaturated it's spewing water at every edge, not just into the creek. Here it's flowing straight out onto the pasture as sheet water.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51261945729_bf2478a2b2_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2m6QSwv)

This is our driveway. We were finally able to afford to have a decent driveway built last year, and Keith and Tom Abbey did a fantastic job on it, cambering and compacting the gravel and installing drainage to keep the water away from it. It's stood up to the wild weather of the last six weeks superbly. Before we had this driveway, in prolonged wet weather we'd have to park the car three quarters of the way to the house and cross the mud patch/miniature swamp with gumboots to get to the house. We love our driveway.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51262246360_e1c630e3b0_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2m6SpTN)

This is the driveway drain diverting water away from the driveway:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51260472452_caba78ba5a_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2m6Hjzb)

So far, so good. But yesterday morning, the roadside drains overflowed, and flooded our road crossover.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51261399623_13608e372a_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2m6N5bT)
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51261196746_5bf2bffbc2_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2m6M2T1)
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51261398343_b4be600328_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2m6N4NP)

Excess water overflowing into the drain from over the top:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51261397763_fed48b4d5e_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2m6N4CP)

You can see it eroding the driveway surface there - it's washed the clay and silt out on that side of the driveway, and left mostly gravel etc. That's also why the water looks red.

A few more photos:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51261940929_60f29f89db_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2m6QR6K)
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51261940324_7585c87ff6_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2m6QQVj)

(That, by the way, is our mailbox - someone gave us a hive box that was narrower than our standard Langstroth hives, and we needed a mailbox, so I turned it into one - pretty apt considering we sell honey, and roomy for parcels etc.)

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We were able to cross through the water with the car because it wasn't too deep; this morning it's no longer spilling over the crossover. The driveway at the crossover is usable, but the surface is damaged on the drainage side. We may get the whole driveway re-compacted at the start of summer - we'll see.

And this is just a minor example of what's going on it the region. Driving to Denmark last week, quite a few sections of road were inundated - shallow enough to get through, but other roads have been completely blocked by points like this being too deep to cross by car, and after Sunday's over 50mm of rain and 80km/h winds, widespread waterlogging, flooding and damage are worsening from west of Denmark to east of Albany.

Livestock all over the area have been in super-wet pasture for six weeks, and it's eating away at hooves in cattle, horses and donkeys alike. Where they have access to higher ground, they seek it, but even there the grass is wet. Our own place has never been as wet as this in the ten years we've been here. The animals here are hanging out on higher ground and have sodden hooves after each severe weather system. I've been using Stockholm tar before each new onslaught to give them an antimicrobial and water barrier, which has helped our susceptible donkeys not to go lame through rot.

Nelly still has mild laminitis for unknown reasons - her hooves actually looked OK because she hangs out on high ground consistently. It's the wrong season for laminitis, she didn't get into a feed bin, we've not had a donkey with laminitis before etc so I'm scratching my head. She's been on anti-inflammatories/analgesics nearly a fortnight and is improving, but I'd like to know why it happened so I can prevent a recurrence. I've started feeding dolomite in the bucket feed to get extra calcium and magnesium into them all. Usually I don't feed it because it interferes with the vitamin/mineral supplement I give them as standard, or I alternate the two. Right now it's all going in - I can't do two separate feeds and don't want to alternate in case the problem is acute and to do with calcium/magnesium supply (supplementation is recommended on kikuyu pastures, but so is feeding extra selenium etc etc).

I've only ridden a handful of times in the past six weeks because it's either raining or the ground is sodden in most places. Also, there's other problems. The generator we use to top up the home battery supply when there's not been enough sun took several services before the inverter decided it could talk to it and let it charge the batteries. So we went through the start of winter with minimal electricity (sun only and there wasn't much) whenever we had bad weather systems coming through, while the generator kept returning to the service department. Finally, over the last two weeks, we had the luxury of a generator which actually charged the battery bank when we needed it to - it was wonderful.

And then yesterday morning it started malfunctioning again and the inverter spits it out and tries to shut down the whole electric system, which discouraged me from persisting with the generator. So we had to turn all the fridges and freezers off last night and hope for sun today and I will have to take it in to the service centre tomorrow again, for the third time this year.

By the way, we're lucky compared to the people on mains power in the district, because they've been having regular outages over the last six weeks, some lasting over a day, while the electric companies scramble to repair the damaged grid. We've only had to ration - and we've only ever lost power completely once, in the eight years we've been off-grid, and that was only for two hours one morning after we'd red-lined the system (the system automatically shuts down if battery levels go under 30% and they're not actually supposed to go below 60% for optimum battery life).

Fingers crossed, we'll figure out what's wrong with the generator. It's something that kicks in after a while, that makes it malfunction under load, and then the inverter spits it out. We're wondering if it's vibration changing the internal settings - would a vibration mat help? Currently it's bolted to a concrete floor to stop it walking. Or maybe ants or other critters got into its air supply somewhere between last week, when it was working perfectly, and yesterday...
Title: Re: Weather extremes
Post by: MeltingMan on June 22, 2021, 10:46:16
We had the longest day of the year yesterday. Of course, I had to think about how 'winter' looks in the other hemisphere. Thanks @SueC. With us, the summer is just taking a break after it has really started. I now have 24.4 ℃ in the living room. Outside, however, it is only 15 ℃ - not yet extreme weather, but headache weather. It rained. Sometimes we already had floods - in March. Whether there will be enough rain in the annual average remains to be seen.

Quote from: SueCWe drove to Denmark for a day out last week.

🤔

Title: Re: Weather extremes
Post by: Ulrich on June 22, 2021, 13:03:19
Quote from: MeltingMan on June 22, 2021, 10:46:16We had the longest day of the year yesterday.

Yes, didn't use me much though, dark clouds and thunderstorm/rain, so it didn't really make a difference to shorter days (for me at least).

Quote from: MeltingMan on June 22, 2021, 10:46:16not yet extreme weather, but headache weather. It rained.

Ah, good to hear I'm not the only one, I've had a headache since Monday... :unamused:
Title: Re: Weather extremes
Post by: SueC on June 22, 2021, 15:45:30
Headaches all around apparently. Had an actual migraine Saturday and again yesterday. Beastly things. That's after not having one for a long time. Sleep is the best cure for me and when you have a migraine oblivion is the best thing anyway. Sniffing one of those menthol nose unblocker sticks for colds also seems to help. Get better soon, you lot. I wonder if certain types of weather do make headaches more likely?

@MeltingMan, the coast around here is full of Nordic names like Elleker, Torbay (Tor Bay), Bornholm and...Denmark!

And for more extreme weather - there was snow on Bluff Knoll recently - and that's the only place in Western Australia that really gets any...you'd probably laugh at the amounts but this short YT clip I found gives you an idea:

Title: Re: Weather extremes
Post by: Ulrich on June 22, 2021, 15:59:09
Quote from: SueC on June 22, 2021, 15:45:30I wonder if certain types of weather do make headaches more likely?

For me, yes (not always, but often): warm winds from the south blowing across the mountains (named "Föhnwetterlage"); storms coming up; extreme heat...
Title: Re: Weather extremes
Post by: MeltingMan on June 23, 2021, 11:37:48
Quote from: SueC on June 22, 2021, 15:45:30I wonder if certain types of weather do make headaches more likely?

If a storm is announced or the temperature drops / rises abruptly, I will notice it in advance. Most of the time I have this typical migraine aura that lasts 30 minutes - mainly at night. The pain is not as bad as it used to be. 😮‍💨
Title: Re: Weather extremes
Post by: SueC on June 23, 2021, 12:32:41
I'll have to keep an eye on the weather and see if it correlates with my headaches. Physical triggers for me include stress, dehydration and electrolyte depletion, heat, humidity, not eating five times a day, and for some reason going to town on errands (probably through the above), although that one wasn't behind the last two.

More extreme weather: A friend in Vermont USA reported an unusually extreme winter just gone by. They were up to their ears in snow more than normal, and this was interspersed with huge rains that inconveniently melted the snow and caused much mud, flooding, etc. The snow got so high that it partly covered windows.
Title: Re: Weather extremes
Post by: dsanchez on June 25, 2021, 00:06:01
A tornado just destroyed a few places in Moravia (south of Czech Republic), about 150Km from where I live. It's VERY rare to read about a tornado in Europe...
Title: Re: Weather extremes
Post by: Ulrich on June 25, 2021, 09:23:31
Quote from: dsanchez on June 25, 2021, 00:06:01It's VERY rare to read about a tornado in Europe...

It is not as rare as we think!

QuoteEuropaweit ist besonders ein Streifen von Nordfrankreich über Benelux und die Nordhälfte Deutschlands bis nach Polen, den Baltischen Staaten, Weißrussland und Russland betroffen. Insgesamt werden in Europa pro Jahr etwa 300 Tornados registriert, die Dunkelziffer ist hoch.
http://www.unwetterzentrale.de/uwz/558.html

Currently we've had severe thunderstorms with lots of rain and/or hail here in the area.  :o
(Luckily, my hometown hasn't had any damage so far.)

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Title: Re: Weather extremes
Post by: SueC on June 25, 2021, 10:08:13
I had no idea there were tornadoes in Europe! Thanks for the info, both of you.  :cool

@Ulrich, your photo reminds me of a huge hailstorm we had here 20 years ago, which produced a famous photo:

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I remember it was so cold and windy for days I spent the weekend curled up reading in front of the fire. I even remember what I was reading because the weather was so unusual and I read two days straight.

...and you've got this in mid-summer!   :1f635:
Title: Re: Weather extremes
Post by: Ulrich on July 09, 2021, 09:07:52
Yesterday I was on the road with my sister & niece, where we went the weather was ok, only later it rained a bit, but when we drove home it became clear that it had rained a lot, there was a little "creek" next to the road (where there shouldn't be and never was)! In some other places (ditch near the road) were little "lakes".  :1f632:
It continued raining over night, so far I've not heard whether there were floodings or something, must have a look later...
(Edit: today I saw no signs of floodings, thus the "lakes" must have oozed away.)
Title: Re: Weather extremes
Post by: SueC on July 09, 2021, 15:14:59
Well, we've had five fronts in one week (!!!) and three of those with severe weather warnings, including today's. I'm just sloshing around in gumboots when outdoors; everything is back to bog conditions.

Everywhere, town and country, the soils are saturated and the moment it rains more, things start to flood...

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And apparently, the biggest front is due to come through early Monday morning:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-07-09/strongest-cold-front-of-season-set-to-hit-wa-on-monday/100279544

...it's worth having a look at the link just to see the video clip of Perth today...
Title: Re: Weather extremes
Post by: SueC on July 26, 2021, 07:50:27
QuoteTOP PRIORITY FOR IMMEDIATE BROADCAST

Severe Weather Warning
for DESTRUCTIVE WINDS, HEAVY RAINFALL, ABNORMALLY HIGH TIDES and DAMAGING SURF


For people in Lower West, South West, South Coastal, South East Coastal, Great Southern and parts of Central West and Central Wheat Belt districts.

Issued at 11:07 am Monday, 26 July 2021.

A strong cold front will move across the South West Land Division Monday afternoon and evening which will bring strong winds and heavy rainfall.

 Weather Situation: An intensifying cold front will reach the South West District during Monday afternoon. Ahead of the cold front a developing rain band will bring heavy rain and possible strong squalls to western parts of the South West Land Division from late afternoon Monday. This weather will extend eastwards overnight Monday and continue into Tuesday.

WIDESPREAD DAMAGING WINDS, averaging 60-70 km/h with gusts to 120 km/h are likely to develop southwest of Bunbury to Bremer Bay from early afternoon, extending to be southwest of Jurien Bay to Bremer Bay, including the Perth Metro area from mid to late afternoon. DAMAGING WINDS will extend northward and eastward to the remaining warning area overnight Monday and into Tuesday morning.

Locally DANGEROUS WINDS with gusts in excess of 125 km/h are possible southwest of a line from Geraldton to Bremer Bay and may develop from mid-afternoon and continue through the evening.

HEAVY RAINFALL which may lead to FLASH FLOODING may develop over the northern South West and Lower West districts, particularly near the Darling Scarp, from mid afternoon. Moderate to heavy falls may extend into the west of the Great Southern later Monday afternoon and evening.

A Flood Watch is current for some catchments in the southwest. See http://www.bom.gov.au/wa/warnings/ for more information.

Tides are expected to be HIGHER THAN NORMAL today between Shark Bay and Israelite Bay. HIGHER THAN NORMAL TIDES may cause FLOODING OF LOW LYING COASTAL AREAS with VERY ROUGH SEAS between Perth and Israelite Bay on Tuesday.

DAMAGING SURF CONDITIONS are likely which could cause SIGNIFICANT BEACH EROSION between Jurien Bay and Walpole Monday, extending to areas between Shark Bay and Israelite Bay on Tuesday and continue for the rest of the week.

This front is expected to be windier than a typical front and is likely to produce the kind of weather that is only seen around twice a year in the southwest of WA.

Locations which may be affected include Albany, Bunbury, Esperance, Geraldton, Katanning, Mandurah, Manjimup, Margaret River, Merredin, Moora, Mount Barker, Narrogin, Northam and Perth.

The Department of Fire and Emergency Services advises that people should:
* If outside find safe shelter away from trees, power lines, storm water drains and streams.
* Close your curtains and blinds, and stay inside away from windows.
* Unplug electrical appliances and do not use land line telephones if there is lightning.
* If boating, swimming or surfing leave the water.
* Be alert and watch for hazards on the road such as fallen power lines and loose debris.
* Keep away from flooded drains, rivers, streams and waterways.
* Be careful of fallen trees, damaged buildings and debris.
* Be careful of fallen power lines. They are dangerous and should always be treated as live.
* Assess your home, car and property for damage.
* If damage has occurred take photos and contact your insurance company to organise permanent repairs.
* If your home or property has significant damage, like a badly damaged roof or flooding, call the SES on 132 500.

Re the highlighted red bit, "Usually only seen once or twice a winter" - We've had over half a dozen of these already this year and there's months of this to come.

We've never known a winter like this in the region and neither have friends who are older than us.

And then there's Germany, China and other countries flooding, and two people I correspond with from different parts of North America who have had unbelievable amounts of rainfall - for example, 5 inches in 36 hours in Arizona, which is their entire average summer rainfall in less than two days.
Title: Re: Weather extremes
Post by: Ulrich on July 26, 2021, 11:26:36
Quote from: SueC on July 26, 2021, 07:50:27And then there's Germany, China and other countries flooding

Last it hit London apparently. Seems like these things happen more often in more places now.  :worried:

https://www.stuttgarter-nachrichten.de/inhalt.unwetter-in-london-heftiger-regen-verursacht-verkehrschaos.e7736893-1276-453e-b4ff-462d649a05f7.html
Title: Re: Weather extremes
Post by: SueC on July 26, 2021, 16:39:05
Ah but @Ulrich, don't you know, "We've always had floods, we've always had fires, this is just fearmongering!" say the anthropogenic climate change deniers - who don't seem to understand the concept of statistical comparison, and apparently can't read graphs either...

Well, so far our region has escaped lightly, with top wind speeds at around 70km/h and just a narrow band of rain, as most of the front seems to have hit to the north of us, where it has created havoc and widespread rain from the West Coast to far inland. We personally don't need more rain, so fingers crossed. But here's some preliminary wind speeds and rain from around the Southwest:

QuoteCape Leeuwin AWS reported a wind gust of 135 km/h at 2:46am WST Tuesday.

Busselton Jetty AWS reported a wind gust of 124 km/h at 2:51am WST Tuesday.

Cape Naturaliste AWS reported a wind gust of 119 km/h at 2:48am WST Tuesday.

Pearce AWS reported a wind gust of 113 km/h at 6:06pm WST Monday.

Busselton Airport reported a wind gust of 100 km/h at 2:54am WST Tuesday.

Garden Island and Gooseberry AWS reported a wind gust of 100 km/h at 5:30am WST Tuesday.

Rottnest Island AWS reported a wind gust of 98 km/h at 5:04am WST Tuesday.

Jarrahdale recorded 27.6mm of rain in the 1 hour to 5:09pm WST Monday.

Floreat Park recorded 27.4mm of rain in the 1 hour to 5:58pm WST Monday.

Kings Park recorded 25.0mm of rain in the 1 hour to 6:05pm WST Monday.

Swanbourne recorded 24.4mm of rain in the 1 hour to 5:47pm WST Monday.

Dwellingup AWS recorded 42.6mm of rain in the 3 hours to 5:06pm WST Monday.

Waroona AWS recorded 35.2 mm of rain in the 3 hours to 4:03pm WST Monday.

And speaking of weather extremes, the Victorian Alps had rather a lot of snow this week.

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The weather guys who posted this thought the person who shovelled the entry access deserved the rest of the week off.  :lol:

PS:  Just heard there's another front like this expected later this week...  :1f631:

QuoteDestructive fronts heading for WA
Ben Domensino, 26 July 2021

Two of the strongest cold fronts this year will cause damaging to destructive winds, flooding rain, abnormally high tides and damaging surf in Western Australia this week.

The first cold front will surge out of the Indian Ocean and blast across southwestern districts of WA on Monday night into Tuesday morning.

Wind and rain will increase ahead of this approaching cold front on Monday.

Widespread damaging winds are expected from mid-afternoon on Monday into Tuesday morning over southwestern and western districts WA, including Perth and possibly reaching up to Geraldton.

Some areas in the state's southwest could see gusts in excess of 125 km/h, particularly with showers and along the exposed South West Capes overnight Monday into Tuesday morning.

Squally showers with locally heavy falls will also develop over the western coastal districts and parts of the Great Southern from Monday afternoon into Tuesday morning.

The heaviest falls are likely to occur along the coast and adjacent inland between about Perth and Bunbury, where falls of 40-60mm are possible along the Darling Range. This rain is expected to cause flooding in several rivers, including the Avon, Swan, Murray and Harvey Rivers Catchments.

In addition to wind and rain, this powerful front will also cause abnormally high tides and damaging surf along most of the state's western and southern coastlines on Monday and Tuesday. This may cause beach erosion and flooding in some low-lying coastal areas.

There will be some respite mid-week, before another strong cold front hit the state on Thursday.

This will be another dangerous system, with more damaging winds, heavy rain, potentially severe thunderstorms and damaging surf all on the cards between Thursday and Saturday morning.

Wind and rain will ease from Saturday, although cold air will linger over the southwest of WA during the weekend. Perth will only reach the mid-teens on Saturday, which is 3-4 degrees below-average for the middle of winter.

from https://www.eldersweather.com.au/news/destructive-fronts-heading-for-wa/534655
Title: Re: Weather extremes
Post by: SueC on August 24, 2021, 06:58:06
QuoteIt was midnight madness over the Tasman Sea last night as a 2000 km long line of thunderstorms lit up the sky between Australia and New Zealand.

A cold front that swept across southern Australia on Sunday and Monday moved out into the Tasman Sea on Monday night.

This front marked the boundary between a cold air mass moving up from the Southern Ocean and much warmer, moisture-laden air flowing across the Tasman Sea from the north.

As these two contrasting air masses clashed, a long line of thunderstorms erupted under the cover of darkness.

More here: https://www.eldersweather.com.au/news/2000-km-line-of-lightning-from-australia-to-nz/534832
Title: Re: Weather extremes
Post by: SueC on October 19, 2021, 09:46:08
Just when we thought the storms were over, in a year particularly marked by ridiculous amounts of winter storms with unusually high winds, and by far more rain than normal (http://curefans.com/index.php?topic=3781.msg775002#msg775002)...

QuoteSevere Weather Warning
for DESTRUCTIVE WINDS, ABNORMALLY HIGH TIDES and DAMAGING SURF

For people in Goldfields, Central West, Lower West, South West, South Coastal, South East Coastal, Great Southern and parts of Pilbara, Gascoyne, Eucla, South Interior and Central Wheat Belt districts.

Issued at 10:46 am Tuesday, 19 October 202

Weather Situation:
A rain band will move over western and central parts of the State during Tuesday with areas of raised dust and DAMAGING winds possible ahead of the rain band. A deepening low pressure system will then move over during Tuesday evening and Wednesday morning, bringing a period of potential DESTRUCTIVE WINDS to areas near the west coast.

DAMAGING WINDS averaging 40 to 70 kilometres per hour with gusts to 90 kilometres per hour are possible over the eastern Gascoyne and Goldfields from around 10am WST Tuesday, moving to over the southern Goldfields, Eucla and adjacent parts of the South East Coastal district during Tuesday afternoon and evening before easing. WINDS MAY CAUSE DAMAGE TO HOMES AND PROPERTY.

During Tuesday afternoon, DAMAGING winds with gusts to 100 kilometres per hour are possible over western parts of the South West district in thunderstorms and showers.

During Tuesday evening and early Wednesday morning, DESTRUCTIVE WINDS averaging 80 to 90 kilometres per hour with gusts in excess of 125 kilometres per hour are possible over the Central West District, Lower West district, South West district, Central Wheat Belt, Great Southern and South Coastal districts. These DESTRUCTIVE WINDS are most likely to occur and be strongest near the west coast as the low pressure system moves over the south of the State during Tuesday evening.

WINDS MAY CAUSE SIGNIFICANT DAMAGE OR DESTRUCTION TO HOMES AND PROPERTY.

Winds will begin to ease near sunrise on Wednesday.

HIGHER THAN NORMAL TIDES and DAMAGING SURF CONDITIONS which could cause SIGNIFICANT BEACH EROSION are possible between Kalbarri and Albany Tuesday evening and early Wednesday morning.

Locations which may be affected include Albany, Bunbury, Busselton, Esperance, Geraldton, Kalbarri, Kalgoorlie, Katanning, Mandurah, Manjimup, Margaret River, Meekatharra, Moora, Mount Barker, Narrogin, Norseman, Northam, Paraburdoo and Perth.

This system is expected to be windier than is typical for this time of year and in particular wind gusts near the west coast Tuesday evening are potentially to be of a strength seen only once or twice a year.
from http://www.bom.gov.au/products/IDW21037.shtml

...just typical - the apples are in blossom and last year we didn't get an apple harvest off our main trees because a severe storm like this tore all the blossom off the trees before the flowers had been pollinated... I hope at least some of the open flowers are pollinated, and that the flower still in bud stage will survive the storm. I missed our fresh apples. The pears were OK and the pears are going to be OK again as the little fruits are already forming...