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Brexit

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piggymirror

Quote from: Ulrich on February 06, 2020, 17:00:59Nice words, but maybe you should've told them before the referendum... (too late, again).  :disappointed:

Maybe. Or maybe I did. I don't know.


piggymirror

Quote from: SueC on February 06, 2020, 08:53:25...regrettably I can't do any useful contributions on serious topics today because we have a heatwave here (currently it's a toasty 39 degrees C) and my brain is boiling :1f630:  (as farm chores render me unable to huddle indoors where it's cool all day long but I am seriously considering becoming nocturnal in summertime...)

Don't listen to Nick Cave's The Mercy Seat tonight, keep yourself... cold.
Think of Europe this time of year, just watch our weather forecasts (or at least, some of them).
If you can't, just google "Tasmania" or "Te Anau".

SueC

Quote from: Ulrich on February 06, 2020, 17:00:59Are you the Australian girl, SueC?  :?

Well, I suppose I was a girl a long time ago!  :yum:

And I am indeed from the British Colonies.

Which begs the question... our part of the world never pretended to be a part of Europe, but if we had, would we now be having Colonexit?

Although probably a lot of people in the "motherland" are having that anyway, even without our participation.  :angel



Quote from: piggymirror on February 06, 2020, 20:28:39
Quote from: SueC on February 06, 2020, 08:53:25...regrettably I can't do any useful contributions on serious topics today because we have a heatwave here (currently it's a toasty 39 degrees C) and my brain is boiling :1f630:  (as farm chores render me unable to huddle indoors where it's cool all day long but I am seriously considering becoming nocturnal in summertime...)

Don't listen to Nick Cave's The Mercy Seat tonight, keep yourself... cold.
Think of Europe this time of year, just watch our weather forecasts (or at least, some of them).
If you can't, just google "Tasmania" or "Te Anau".

The way you made that text red just increased the temperature even more!   :1f62d:

Yes, we have that track at our house!  An electric chair might cause increased body temperature, probably more so indirectly (anticipation) than directly, at least from the perspective of the, ahem, recipient... but it also causes a (permanent) loss of consciousness...  :1f632:  But anyway, yes, a track to avoid right now.   :-D

Tasmania is where we nearly moved to, after lots of hiking holidays.  But this is about as close to Antarctica as we can get on the West Australian land mass.  Well - actually, when we lived right on the coast, the summer maxima were around 10 degrees C cooler.  Being just 20km inland as the crow flies makes a big difference to that... thank goodness the house stays cool... whose idea was it to be a smallholder... grumble... oh, erm, mine...

Those European weather forecasts do sound like good weather therapy!   :cool

And meanwhile, should any of you be freezing your posteriors off and longing for sunshine and warmth (since the grass is always greener etc), you can credibly simulate current Australian temperature conditions at your house by taking an electric fan heater into your toilet (or other small enclosed cubicle) and running it on high for about an hour.  Enjoy.  :evil:  :smth023  :beaming-face
SueC is time travelling

SueC

The whole Colonexit business has got me thinking.  It's a good thing that the Serengeti was never a part of Europe, or you'd be constantly reminded of chicken farms!  :angel

For those with a less rural upbringing:  https://www.careerexplorer.com/careers/chicken-sexer/
SueC is time travelling

Ulrich

Quote from: piggymirror on February 06, 2020, 20:24:41Maybe. Or maybe I did.

Well if you did, it didn't help (obviously).  :1f62a:
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Ulrich

https://www.politico.eu/article/eu-touring-artists-will-need-visas-to-perform-in-the-uk-from-2021/

Quote from: undefinedLONDON -- EU artists and entertainers will need visas to perform in the United Kingdom from January 2021, the Home Office has said.

The department announced Tuesday that artists and sports players from the EU would be subject to the same rules that currently apply to their non-EU peers once the Brexit transition comes to an end in December.

At the moment, artists and their crews can travel freely from the EU to the U.K. and vice versa without applying for work permits or visas. But once freedom of movement ends, both EU and non-EU artists will need a Tier 5 visa in order to perform in the U.K., take part in competitions or auditions, participate in promotional activities, attend workshops, give talks about their work, and take part in cultural events or festivals.

With this announcement, briefly mentioned in a policy paper, the Home Office has poured cold water on the hopes of the British live industry to achieve reciprocal arrangements between the U.K. and the EU that resemble freedom of movement as much as possible, enabling artists to continue to move around with their instruments and merchandising without facing extra paperwork or costs. Music industry groups in the U.K. had called for a two-year working visa to allow artists to travel freely around the EU and the U.K. for work.
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piggymirror

Jeremy Corbyn's out.

In comes Keir Starmer.

Source: BBC.


Ulrich

Even though negotiations went on until the proverbial last minute, things for touring artists are still not good:

QuoteThe UK has a huge music / event touring industry which has suffered immensely due to Covid. After the end of the transition period, we face further hardship when trying to tour the EU on a professional basis, with potentially each country asking for its own visa, that would be valid only for one trip...

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/563294

QuoteWe would like the UK Govt to negotiate a free cultural work permit that gives us visa free travel throughout the 27 EU states for music touring professionals, bands, musicians, artists, TV and sports celebrities that tour the EU to perform shows and events & Carnet exception for touring equipment.
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Ulrich

QuoteThe post-Brexit reality of a work visa regime to work in the European Union is now affecting the U.K. film and television production industry.

The impact of Brexit on the £111 billion ($154 billion) was not adequately discussed during the negotiations late last year. Talks between the U.K. and EU over visa-free travel for arts workers failed.

Meanwhile, taking a cue from British musicians who demanded government action on touring the EU in January, on Tuesday it was the turn of actors to demand redressal.

A letter to U.K. Prime Minister Boris Johnson, signed by actors Ian McKellen, Patrick Stewart, Julie Walters, Miriam Margolyes, Ricky Tomlinson and Anne-Marie Duff, stated: "Prime Minister, we urge you to negotiate new terms with the EU, allowing creative practitioners to travel to the EU visa-free for work, and for our European counterparts to be able to do the same in the U.K."
https://variety.com/2021/film/global/uk-production-guild-brexit-eu-1234909247/
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Ulrich

QuoteBraithwaite is looking forward to touring again after the pandemic, but acknowledged the difficulties facing British artists wanting to tour Europe post-Brexit. "It's going to be a nightmare, having to declare every piece of equipment you've got as you go from country to country," he said. "And there's going to be the visa costs, which for us will be more of a hassle than anything else, but to some bands it'll probably stop them being able to tour. As it stands, the music industry has been completely hung out to dry; as far as the music industry's concerned, it's a no-deal Brexit."
https://www.theguardian.com/music/2021/feb/26/mogwai-first-no-1-album-25-years-as-the-love-continues
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Ulrich

No big surprise here, eh? (Both exports and imports are going down in Britain.)

https://www.t-online.de/finanzen/news/unternehmen-verbraucher/id_89639888/nach-brexit-britischer-handel-mit-der-eu-bricht-um-40-prozent-ein.html

QuoteDie britischen Exporte in die Europäische Union sind nach Inkrafttreten des Brexit-Handelsabkommens mit der EU eingebrochen. Im Januar fielen sie um 40,7 Prozent, wie das Statistikamt am Freitag in London mitteilte. In der Statistik sind alle Waren berücksichtigt, mit Ausnahme einiger Edelmetalle.

Auch die Importe aus der EU fielen kräftig, und zwar um 28,8 Prozent. Das Statistikamt wies darauf hin, dass der Handel nicht nur vom Brexit und neuen Zollregelungen belastet wurde, sondern auch von den Folgen der Corona-Pandemie.
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Ulrich

https://www.nme.com/news/music/brexit-touring-visa-music-industry-careers-criticise-summit-2943231

QuoteThe government's failure to negotiate visa-free travel and Europe-wide work permits for musicians and crew has sparked fears that artists will face huge costs to future live music tours of the continent which could create a glass ceiling that prevents rising and developing artists from being able to afford to do so.

It is also warned that thousands of jobs and millions in income for crew, haulage and production will also be lost to the EU.

Now, ahead of the #CarryOnTouring UK-EU summit and Day Of Action this week, the government has been criticised for still not making the situation any clearer for UK artists wishing to plan European tours. A Working Group with representatives from across the creative and cultural sectors has been set up, but it is said that nothing significant has come from it yet.
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Ulrich

Brexit's going really well, too...  :1f62b:

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2021/oct/09/trade-war-looms-as-uk-set-to-spurn-eu-offer-on-northern-ireland
QuoteFears that the UK is heading for a trade war with the EU have been fuelled by strong indications from the government that it thinks proposals to be unveiled in Brussels on Wednesday over Brexit arrangements do not go far enough.

https://www.bbc.com/news/business-58837844
QuotePig farmers are facing a "human disaster" due to a shortage of abattoir workers, the National Farmer's Union has said.
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SueC

Quote from: Ulrich on October 12, 2021, 19:45:04Brexit's going really well, too...  :1f62b:

Yeah, isn't it! :1f635: I'm entering a conscious news fast at the moment, because I'm getting too depressed knowing about all the shiitake going on in this world, and the entrenchment of it. It's really gotten me down over the past few weeks, and when they are things I have no personal influence on, it doesn't actually help those things any if I get a stomach ulcer over them. I know there's some brilliant stuff being written at the moment about all this shiitake, but I've reached a limit emotionally about all the BS. So I'm going to listen to music and to constructive and interesting podcasts, and watch good movies and documentaries, and look at Existential Comics and other fun things like that, and work on getting a spring back into my footsteps, because that way I will be of better service to this world, in the things I do actually have an influence on.

Love and hugs to anyone who's feeling down about all this crap.

SueC is time travelling

Ulrich

And basically nothing has been done for touring musicians & crews:

https://www.nme.com/news/music/uk-government-accused-of-more-spin-and-misinformation-and-no-progress-over-brexit-touring-mess-3073378?utm

QuoteFigures from the live music industry have hit back at the UK government for another "non-announcement" of "spin and misinformation", while arguing that little-to-no progress is being made to solve the Brexit touring fiasco.

Back in August, the government 'announced' that "short term" visa-free travel without work permits will be allowed for musicians and performers in 19 European countries, while talks are ongoing with the remaining nations. This led to a huge backlash from the industry, who accused the government of "spin and meaningless posturing" given that these rules were already in place pre-Brexit, while no real negotiations had been made to solve the major issues. All of this is compounded by today's report that one in three jobs in music were lost during the pandemic.
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