I've put all the files into Xact and they're being dumped into the Encode page and then I'm getting an error message saying ...
"Can't make class ID 14 of class ID 13 of class ID 12 into type reference. (-1700)"
This is why I HATE FLAC.
I've NEVER had a download go through and decoded without some sort of error.
F*CK.
Are you sure it isn't a problem with xact? Can you upload the smallest Flac file you are having trouble with and I'll see if I get the error with other programs on my pc? Have you tried any other FLAC decoders?
i might be completely worng here but are you sure your downloaded files are 100% complete?
i'm using xATC too and never had that sort of error message. yet i know (-1700) reference often occurs with incomplete/partially downloaded files.
j's suggestion is good: can you upload one of your files and we'll see if we can make it work.
and if you can tell what file you have there (a file from some gig downloaded from here?) and maybe we can compare the filesizes and see if it's really complete.
just to make sure:
Quote from: B.DEE on October 12, 2007, 22:32:45
I've put all the files into Xact and they're being dumped into the Encode page and then I'm getting an error message saying ...
are you really dragging/dropping these to 'encode'? if you're trying to decode flac files to .wav, you should put them to 'decode' instead, right? now i'm not entirely sure which one are you trying to do there, encoding .wav to flac or decoding flac to .wav? your topic line says decode though(?)
xATC should really be very easy and userfriendly application so i'm a bit puzzled by this. i've used it for years and i can't remember ever having decoding errors unless i was tried to decode incomplete files, that's why i suggested checking that too first.
(which version of the program do you have btw?)
Let me clairfy ...
Yes, I downloaded files from this website (the Download Festival FLACs) and then individually dragged and dropped each file into the "DECODE" section of Xact - but then it flips them over to the "ENCODE" page of Xact, leaving the "DECODE" field empty (along with the error message popping up over top of the program).
Every single file I have for that show did this.
ok now i see what you mean. and sorry that i misunderstood you in the first time.
what version of xATC do you have? 1.59 or older?
are you sure your files are complete? (if you downloaded the download festival files via j's link, you can compare the file sizes of your downloaded files to those on j's server)
ok forget my last post, i think i know what your problem is:
i think you have forgot to remove the .txt extension at the end of the flac files.
the last extension should be .flac, but when you download some flac files they might show up on your HD with .flac.txt extension. you can't decode these because xACT don't read .txt and cannot understand what kind of audio files you're trying to offer it.
i just tried this out by downloading one flac file from the download festival show and it does inded come with .flac.txt extension. and i also tried putting this this .txt file into 'decode' window and xACT indeed does give that specific error message which you described.
so, this should be easy to solve: just remove the .txt extensions from all files, then try decoding and it should work just fine. :smth023
Quote from: japanesebaby on October 14, 2007, 17:16:47
ok forget my last post, i think i know what your problem is:
i think you have forgot to remove the .txt extension at the end of the flac files.
the last extension should be .flac, but when you download some flac files they might show up on your HD with .flac.txt extension. you can't decode these because xACT don't read .txt and cannot understand what kind of audio files you're trying to offer it.
i just tried this out by downloading one flac file from the download festival show and it does inded come with .flac.txt extension. and i also tried putting this this .txt file into 'decode' window and xACT indeed does give that specific error message which you described.
so, this should be easy to solve: just remove the .txt extensions from all files, then try decoding and it should work just fine. :smth023
I can't believe I didn't see that all this time.
Thanks.
hey i'm just glad it got solved. :smth023
happy FLAC-ing - no reason to hate it now i guess. :-D
Thanks M. Now I look like a genius. I told B.Dee that you would probably be able to solve his problem! +Karma for you!
What's up with .flac files suddenly become .txt files? :smth017
Yeah, is it something from my site?
okay.. can anyone help me here.. I can successfully download flac files to my recently acquired winamp.. but mediaplayer does not recognise them and won't play them.. is there anything i can do to copy the files to media player in music library there??
i have not a clue what to do?
Quote from: scatcat on November 03, 2007, 20:34:43
okay.. can anyone help me here.. I can successfully download flac files to my recently acquired winamp.. but mediaplayer does not recognise them and won't play them.. is there anything i can do to copy the files to media player in music library there??
i have not a clue what to do?
Sara, you will need to convert the flac files to WAV or mp3 format.
I had no luck with the frontend program.
I used dBpoweramp Music Converter and it worked great.
http://www.dbpoweramp.com/dmc.htm (http://www.dbpoweramp.com/dmc.htm)
you will also need to download the flac codec
http://www.dbpoweramp.com/codec-central.htm (http://www.dbpoweramp.com/codec-central.htm)
hope it helps. :smth001
You can also download traders little helper. Google it and you can get a free download.
Quote from: j on November 04, 2007, 03:36:31
You can also download traders little helper. Google it and you can get a free download.
For those who are lazy:
http://thor.prohosting.com/roh0205
Definitely a great program. :smth023
thankyou CureFreak,J, and lostflower.. I am still stuck in the middle of downloading, so I'll give these a go. :smth023
Quote from: Cure Freak on November 03, 2007, 22:22:21
Quote from: scatcat on November 03, 2007, 20:34:43
okay.. can anyone help me here.. I can successfully download flac files to my recently acquired winamp.. but mediaplayer does not recognise them and won't play them.. is there anything i can do to copy the files to media player in music library there??
i have not a clue what to do?
Sara, you will need to convert the flac files to WAV or mp3 format.
well, there really should be no need to convert to anything. i mean, the great thing about flac is that one can archive everything directly as flac, without having to convert/temper with the files in anyway. :!:
by the way this also minimizes all kinds of risks of error etc. that are prone to happen when converting or especially when burning .wav on cd (which is very common and has ruined/flawed a lot of stuff out there). continuous converting between formats can really cause errors - not to mention that converting to lossy means pretty much game over.
so i'd say you look straight into TLH. good luck, i'm sure it works for you! :smth023
Quote from: lostflower4 on October 17, 2007, 19:24:28
What's up with .flac files suddenly become .txt files? :smth017
well i've noticed pretty much since day one when i switched over to mac. some flac files downloaded from some hosting sites always turned out like this, .txt extension got added at the end of the file name. then again, this certainly never ever happens with flac downaloded from for instance torrent sites.so maybe it could be somehow connected to one's browser? i've pretty much always used safari so i don't know if this happens with any other browsers(?). i don't know what B.DEEs using.
then again, it never happened with every hosting site/ftp anyway, so i've no certain idea of the reason behind it. :smth017
Quote from: japanesebaby on November 04, 2007, 07:02:46
Quote from: Cure Freak on November 03, 2007, 22:22:21
Quote from: scatcat on November 03, 2007, 20:34:43
okay.. can anyone help me here.. I can successfully download flac files to my recently acquired winamp.. but mediaplayer does not recognise them and won't play them.. is there anything i can do to copy the files to media player in music library there??
i have not a clue what to do?
Sara, you will need to convert the flac files to WAV or mp3 format.
well, there really should be no need to convert to anything. i mean, the great thing about flac is that one can archive everything directly as flac, without having to convert/temper with the files in anyway. :!:
by the way this also minimizes all kinds of risks of error etc. that are prone to happen when converting or especially when burning .wav on cd (which is very common and has ruined/flawed a lot of stuff out there). continuous converting between formats can really cause errors - not to mention that converting to lossy means pretty much game over.
she will have to ,if she wants them added and played with windows media player.
and your welcome sara.
Quote from: Cure Freak on November 04, 2007, 13:41:03
she will have to ,if she wants them added and played with windows media player.
and your welcome sara.
sure. i just meant that since we do have lots of different media players to choose from, it's actually a lot more practical to use a media player that plays all the formats. because if nothing more, that simply saves a lot of time in a long run.
i'm running on mac with which iTunes "should" be some sort of default option for a media player, but i hardly ever use it at all because it doesn't play flac (and not just flac but also some other audio formats either). so for the same reasons i don't see windows media player as a practical option with pc. it's too limited.
wow.. finally done!! well, I originally downloaded winamp, thanks to help form this site.. because my Windows mediaplayer would not play the flac files..
I am quite happy with the winamp and flac files, it is great sound! so I guess maybe, as japanesebaby put it.. there should be no need to change them back, I just thought i might have all music in one place.. but i don't want to loose anything from the flac files by converting them back .. after spending the weekend getting the flac in the first place.. i might just not touch them at all.. I would like to try maybe to burn them so as i don't loose them in case my PC crashes or tragedy strikes. all i have ot do now is work out how to use the winamps functions!!
this, i'll leave for another weekend!! :shock:
thankyou all for your help and input.. eternally!! :rocker
yw Sara.
But, I didn't, really see the point in using media player, if you have winamp, anyway.
I,only, use my converter program, so I can convert the files to WAV format, to be able to burn onto cd.
Quote from: Cure Freak on November 04, 2007, 16:53:58
I,only, use my converter program, so I can convert the files to WAV format, to be able to burn onto cd.
this is related to what i meant what is so good about flac:
when flac files are converted to .wav and burned to cd, it's prone to burn errors (many common burning programs actually cause small errors all the time without ever reporting them...). then let's say these cds are re-ripped at some point and converted back to flac (in order to be shared again) - or, let's say another cd copy is burned directly from the first cd copy. again, all this very often and very easily causes errors.
so all i was saying that when this is done multiple times (flac converted to .wav and then burned to cds, cds being ripped, burned, ripped etc. etc.): it's almost impossible to avoid copies with notable errors going into circulation. this used to be a real problem in the "pre-flac" times when people traded/exchanged audio cds.
but when shows are archived/shared in original flac sets without converting/burning/ripping/etc., this practically removes the possiblities for any such common errors. that's because flac are data files, unlike .wav. :!:
and i think that's why pretty much everything and everyone seems to run with flac these days anyway, both trading and sharing world included. it's much safer, copies made from flac files are actually
identical copies - unlike cd copies.
so what i mean is that in the long run it's a lot more practical not to convert back and forth at all.
besides, converting/ripping cds is only more or less safe only if one uses safe programs like EAC (EAC for pc and or max for mac os x).
but why even take the risk?
maybe, i should just locate a reliable burning program that does flac format.
Quote from: Cure Freak on November 06, 2007, 00:06:54
maybe, i should just locate a reliable burning program that does flac format.
but that's just another great thing about flac: since flac is a data format so you don't need a special audio burning program, like when burning .wav. burning .wav is so tricky/prone to errors just because of that need for a specific program - and because most of those programs are simply not very good/reliable.
but you can just burn the flacs like you burn any other data cd/data dvd!
sorry for being such a dunb ass. but i'm new to this flac format.
and thanks ,japanesebaby.
Quote from: Cure Freak on November 06, 2007, 12:56:18
sorry for being such a dunb ass. but i'm new to this flac format.
and thanks ,japanesebaby.
hey, no, d*b ass, just like me... I thought I was the dumb ass :shock: learning different formats, updated formats, and what will be the ultimate format for maintaining and keeping music files that [ I have spent a weekend downloading.. thus causing a migraine!!]
If Windows Media Player( which came with my PC package, and had really no practical use for before,.. cannot read flac files.. then , we need something else. I was TOTALLY unaware of this technical stuff until a very helpful Curefan moderator gave me advice... now that my migraine has gone, I'll try to see what I can actually do with the winamp program.. cos my media player does not recognise the format. wav., mp3,etc.. seem to be old.. I'll get back on this topic when I have BRAIN power to see how winamp goes as far as transferring flac files!! :smth023
p.s.. I am new to just about every technology!! .. I am soo happy I am not alone.. :smth001
There's a few plug-in's for Windows Media Player to enable flac playback, here's one http://www.illiminable.com/ogg/
Another option is to play them with this program http://www.foobar2000.org/ or of course, Winamp :)
Quote from: riseandreverberate on November 06, 2007, 16:30:35
There's a few plug-in's for Windows Media Player to enable flac playback, here's one http://www.illiminable.com/ogg/
Another option is to play them with this program http://www.foobar2000.org/ or of course, Winamp :)
Thanks riseandreverberate.. I'll give it a go :smth023
Quote from: scatcat on November 06, 2007, 13:23:17
Quote from: Cure Freak on November 06, 2007, 12:56:18
sorry for being such a dunb ass. but i'm new to this flac format.
and thanks ,japanesebaby.
hey, no, d*b ass, just like me... I thought I was the dumb ass :shock: learning different formats, updated formats, and what will be the ultimate format for maintaining and keeping music files that [ I have spent a weekend downloading.. thus causing a migraine!!]
If Windows Media Player( which came with my PC package, and had really no practical use for before,.. cannot read flac files.. then , we need something else. I was TOTALLY unaware of this technical stuff until a very helpful Curefan moderator gave me advice... now that my migraine has gone, I'll try to see what I can actually do with the winamp program.. cos my media player does not recognise the format. wav., mp3,etc.. seem to be old.. I'll get back on this topic when I have BRAIN power to see how winamp goes as far as transferring flac files!! :smth023
p.s.. I am new to just about every technology!! .. I am soo happy I am not alone.. :smth001
I'm not really that technical illerate. Just new to flac formatting.
I, mean, I built my own pc.
And if you have winamp, just play the files on it. anyway. Makes more sense.
nobody's dumb ass. and this section is here for question anyway, that's the purpose of it.
glad if it's been any help.
happy flac-ing "guys" :smth023
Good discussion here.
As a Windows user myself, I'll just say that I've found Media Player to be a rather useless program for audio. I've never even bothered to learn the basic operations after all these years. It just seems really silly and tedious compared to Winamp.
Media Player is ok for playing videos (most of the time), but Winamp has been my main audio playback software for about 10 years now...
Quote from: lostflower4 on November 06, 2007, 23:48:36
Good discussion here.
As a Windows user myself, I'll just say that I've found Media Player to be a rather useless program for audio. I've never even bothered to learn the basic operations after all these years. It just seems really silly and tedious compared to Winamp.
Media Player is ok for playing videos (most of the time), but Winamp has been my main audio playback software for about 10 years now...
Since I started using Winamp. i can totlally see the difference. It is a far better program for audio, than media player.
japanesebaby ~ thanks, again, for all advice and info. Well appreciated. I got rid of the converter program. I found I had no real need for it. :smth023
While not exactly a decoding issue, I am still using W(i)MP with a flac codec, but I just aquired a 24 bit encoded set of flacs & seems I need a new codec.
However, I can't seem to find one.
Does Winamp support 24 bit flacs too?
Quote from: Steve on December 19, 2007, 16:37:27Does Winamp support 24 bit flacs too?
Sure does. ;)
I think then, that's the last time I'll use WiMP then.
Just downloaded winamp & playing my 24 bit flacs with no complaints.
Just one more thing.
I'm assuming I can burn flacs straight to audio cd right (no conversion crap needed)?
Does it support gapless recording too?
Quote from: Steve on December 19, 2007, 17:00:30I'm assuming I can burn flacs straight to audio cd right (no conversion crap needed)?
Does it support gapless recording too?
I've never used it for burning, and I couldn't recommend it. The only two programs I'd ever burn a CD with are PlexTools and EAC â€" because they allow for write offset correction.
And of those two, PlexTools is the only one than can go straight from FLAC to CD without an intermediate WAV conversion. Unfortunately, you can only use PlexTools if you have a Plextor CD/DVD drive.
I think I have it now actually.
I just got a flac plugin for Nero. I'll give it a whirl later.
Thanks for the advice though.
Quote from: Steve on December 20, 2007, 07:37:14
I think I have it now actually.
I just got a flac plugin for Nero. I'll give it a whirl later.
Thanks for the advice though.
Hey, if you wanna burn CDs with the wrong offsets, Nero is a great program. :roll:
The only thing Nero is good for is burning data discs.
Never knew that.
I suppose I had better try something else then.
:roll: