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Title: Wish Remaster/Deluxe Edition?
Post by: | SONA | on October 15, 2008, 20:00:23
I may be in the minority but the "Wish" era is by far my favorite of the Cure's, and I'm dying for a Deluxe Edition re-release as they've done with the early records.  I'm new to the forum but couldn't find any info on if/when this might happen.  If it does, might all the amazing b-sides including Lost Wishes be included?  I'm more interested in having the whole era on a 2 disc set including b-sides rather then demos etc. (although those would be be cool too).  I ripped my Lost Wishes tape to mp3 and it's amazing how muddled it sounds!


Title: Re: Wish Remaster/Deluxe Edition?
Post by: japanesebaby on October 15, 2008, 20:21:37
hi there and welcome to curefans.com.

I'm new to the forum but couldn't find any info on if/when this might happen. 

the 4tour tourbook said the albums from 'disintegration' to 'paris' were scheduled for 2008 and wms and bloodflowers for 2009 (see for instance here see --> http://curefans.com/index.php/topic,4244.msg41171.html#msg41171)

i just "might" have some doubts that this will happen though, with the new album obviously having taken all the focus...
so perhaps the deluxe "project" will continue sometime 2009 at the earliest? or 2010? 2011? 20...  :? :lol:
Title: Re: Wish Remaster/Deluxe Edition?
Post by: Janko on October 15, 2008, 21:15:29
I think if the new album does good, we wont see the remasters soon...

at least not in 2009/2010

methinks

 ;)
Title: Re: Wish Remaster/Deluxe Edition?
Post by: | SONA | on October 15, 2008, 22:03:22
That's bad news!  Why does the new record effect the release of these deluxe editions?  Is R. Smith the primary person working on these?  Has anyone discussed what might be included on such a deluxe edition?  The others have been primarily demos, but I want the complete Wish sessions!  A booming, crisp version of Apart or Elise or Off To Sleep would be incredible!
Title: Re: Wish Remaster/Deluxe Edition?
Post by: ExplicitMoment on October 16, 2008, 03:16:51
I would imagine it will be a while before we see any more remasters/deluxe editions. Robert Smith has been very closely involved in both the remastering process and the compiling of the bonus material, and with the new album coming out he's going to be kept rather busy with touring and promoting that. Factor in the possible "dark album" companion that is supposed to follow "4:13 Dream", then it may well be a few years before Robert has the time to focus on the remaining albums to be remastered.

It's a shame, but I'd rather they were releasing new material than re-releasing the old stuff.
Title: Re: Wish Remaster/Deluxe Edition?
Post by: Janko on October 16, 2008, 12:38:28
Why does the new record effect the release of these deluxe editions?  


Remasters and reissues and repackagings are the stuff bands do when they don't have any new product. And also, I heard there's gonna be a Blu Ray version of Trilogy soon. So I guess it's all on the table...

 :smth023

Title: Re: Wish Remaster/Deluxe Edition?
Post by: pyota on October 16, 2008, 17:49:03
I may be in the minority but the "Wish" era is by far my favorite of the Cure's, and I'm dying for a Deluxe Edition re-release as they've done with the early records.  I'm new to the forum but couldn't find any info on if/when this might happen.  If it does, might all the amazing b-sides including Lost Wishes be included?  I'm more interested in having the whole era on a 2 disc set including b-sides rather then demos etc. (although those would be be cool too).  I ripped my Lost Wishes tape to mp3 and it's amazing how muddled it sounds


b-sides are already on join the dots so i doubt they will be on the remaster. besides lost wishes (which will be great to have on cd since i don't have a tape player anymore), the bonus disc may contain open (fix mix), high (trip mix) instrumental big hand (from picture show video), secret gig versions of wendy time, away etc. from play out , and hopefully some unreleased songs.

i'm looking forward to the disintegration remaster more. apparently its going to have new remixes of all the songs. hopefully robert doesn't screw it up!
Title: Re: Wish Remaster/Deluxe Edition?
Post by: | SONA | on October 16, 2008, 18:08:05
Both Disintegration and Wish will be amazing Deluxe versions... too bad it will be forever until we get them... Are the b-sides in Join The Dots remastered?  I didn't bother since I have all the singles anyway.  Lost Wishes, remastered on CD will be unbelievable.
Title: Re: Wish Remaster/Deluxe Edition?
Post by: ExplicitMoment on October 16, 2008, 20:20:23
Yes Join the Dots has remastered versions of the b-sides
Title: Re: Wish Remaster/Deluxe Edition?
Post by: | SONA | on October 17, 2008, 04:04:28
Just bought Join The Dots finally... the tunes do sound better, and I didn't have a couple of those early tracks or the Doing The Unstuck remix which is cool... but this set still doesn't have some of the b-sides from Wish like the incredible alternate mixes of Friday I'm In Love, High or A Letter To Elise... and there's no Lost Wishes which needs to not only be made digital, but remastered as well...
Title: Re: Wish Remaster/Deluxe Edition?
Post by: japanesebaby on October 17, 2008, 08:14:04
but this set still doesn't have some of the b-sides from Wish like the incredible alternate mixes of Friday I'm In Love, High or A Letter To Elise...

if there ever was one rule about all these various "complete" box sets and compilations (whatever the band in question), it seems to be that they are never complete but there's always something missing. thanks to the record company policies, i suppose...


about remastered material: sadly, remastering doesn't always mean the sound got better - especially when remastering is being done according to the production standards of today (which are simply quite low, sadly).
'join the dots' was actually mastered well and therefore it sounds good (see the attachment: it looks healthy with no digital distortion on the waveform and therefore it's a pleasure for the ears). but what comes to the upcoming deluxe releases, i'm slightly afraid of the results as recently the cure has proven not to care about quality sound anymore.
i'll be surprised if 'disintegration' and 'wish' sound any better in their remastered form (it's truly hard to beat the late 80's/early 90's productions!). the only thing that makes them really interesting are the bonus discs. 'lost wishes' would be nice to hear in good quality, hopefully there'd be some unreleased tracks too. 
about later albums: WMS could actually be made sound notably better than the '96 cd version if it was mastered like 'disintegration' and 'wish' originally were. and i wouldn't want to sound negative on purpose but i just really doubt it that it'll remastered well. but let's hope for the best!

Title: Re: Wish Remaster/Deluxe Edition?
Post by: wish-man on October 17, 2008, 16:33:31
besides lost wishes (which will be great to have on cd since i don't have a tape player anymore), the bonus disc may contain open (fix mix), high (trip mix) instrumental big hand (from picture show video), secret gig versions of wendy time, away etc. from play out

Well, I can organize for you a 'special' deluxe edition, as we (I am at least) have all these songs and moreover in FLAC  :roll:
I'm waiting for something more...


i'm looking forward to the disintegration remaster more



Yes. It would be much interestingly than Wish IMHO  :-D

At least 3 demos of Disintegration ERA we have (Lovesong Lullaby & Pictures Of You)


about remastered material: sadly, remastering doesn't always mean the sound got better - especially when remastering is being done according to the production standards of today (which are simply quite low, sadly).
'join the dots' was actually mastered well and therefore it sounds good (see the attachment: it looks healthy with no digital distortion on the waveform and therefore it's a pleasure for the ears). but what comes to the upcoming deluxe releases, i'm slightly afraid of the results as recently the cure has proven not to care about quality sound anymore.
i'll be surprised if 'disintegration' and 'wish' sound any better in their remastered form (it's truly hard to beat the late 80's/early 90's productions!). the only thing that makes them really interesting are the bonus discs. 'lost wishes' would be nice to hear in good quality, hopefully there'd be some unreleased tracks too. 
about later albums: WMS could actually be made sound notably better than the '96 cd version if it was mastered like 'disintegration' and 'wish' originally were. and i wouldn't want to sound negative on purpose but i just really doubt it that it'll remastered well. but let's hope for the best!

absolutely agree...  :smth023
Title: Re: Wish Remaster/Deluxe Edition?
Post by: | SONA | on October 17, 2008, 16:56:59

Well, I can organize for you a 'special' deluxe edition, as we (I am at least) have all these songs and moreover in FLAC  :roll:
I'm waiting for something more...



I took my lost wishes from my tape to lossless AIFF and it's just the crappy tape that makes it sound muddled... A digital version would be my most wanted Cure release... and remastered would be nice too... The Join The Dots remasters of Play and all the other b-side sound much crisper, louder and some levels are much stronger... noticeable most on drums... definitely an improvement... you get all the genius early 90's production with a bit better sound.
Title: Re: Wish Remaster/Deluxe Edition?
Post by: japanesebaby on October 19, 2008, 18:23:22
I took my lost wishes from my tape to lossless AIFF and it's just the crappy tape that makes it sound muddled...

i don't have the original lost wishes tape and haven't bothered trying to get one from ebay etc., because one cannot really trust what shape those tapes are in (they might be just as muffled as all the transfers i've heard so far, i never heard a really good sounding version - so perhaps those original analog tape copies are/were rather muffled too? i don't know).
anyway it would be sort of unnecessary to purchase an old analog copy now, before checking out the upcoming deluxe release first. and if the remastered version sucked for some reason, then i might try to get an original analog tape - lwith luck the ebay prices for the original tapes would have also plummeted down a bit by that time, thanks to the remastered release being available.

The Join The Dots remasters of Play and all the other b-side sound much crisper, louder and some levels are much stronger... noticeable most on drums... definitely an improvement... you get all the genius early 90's production with a bit better sound.

the join the dots remasters are really pretty good, imo. not pushed to the limit yet.
let's hope the upcoming deluxe releases can reach the same level too.  :smth023


Title: Re: Wish Remaster/Deluxe Edition?
Post by: pyota on October 20, 2008, 16:51:50
the unplugged version of letter to elise would also be nice to have on the bonus disc. imo its much better than the overproduced album/single versions. although the last time i saw it live it came off quite well, it should be an acoustic song!
Title: Re: Wish Remaster/Deluxe Edition?
Post by: revolt on October 20, 2008, 16:57:52
the unplugged version of letter to elise would also be nice to have on the bonus disc. imo its much better than the overproduced album/single versions. although the last time i saw it live it came off quite well, it should be an acoustic song!

I also prefer the acoustic version of ALTE as it appeared on the MTV unplugged gig, but I wouldn't call the Wish version "overproduced". I mean, it certainly is more "packed" than the accoustic one but it doesn't sound over-polished and there's enough space in it for the instruments to "breathe", so to speak.
Title: Re: Wish Remaster/Deluxe Edition?
Post by: pyota on October 20, 2008, 19:55:37


I also prefer the acoustic version of ALTE as it appeared on the MTV unplugged gig, but I wouldn't call the Wish version "overproduced". I mean, it certainly is more "packed" than the accoustic one but it doesn't sound over-polished and there's enough space in it for the instruments to "breathe", so to speak.

i also think that they really ruined wendy time, cut, and the big hand on wish, compared to the great demo versions at the t+c club in the play out video. obviously we can agree to disagree  :-D
Title: Re: Wish Remaster/Deluxe Edition?
Post by: japanesebaby on October 20, 2008, 20:15:34
the unplugged version of letter to elise would also be nice to have on the bonus disc. imo its much better than the overproduced album/single versions. although the last time i saw it live it came off quite well, it should be an acoustic song!

i also like the acoustic version of the song. the arrangement on the unplugged version is terrific and there's no way the polished studio version could ever reach the emotional depth of that half broken and out of tune-ish toy piano tune. the impact of that sound is the same as when you see an old abandoned toy, a teddy bear or a doll, waiting for a child to come and pick it up, waiting for someone to save it, to make it live again. there's just no way how the studio version could ever beat that.


hmm perhaps they should have re-recorded an acoustic version on the 'greatest hits' album, as one of the acoustic hits.
especially since the studio version of the song wasn't even included on the actual 'greatest hits' collection.
whereas i really liked the idea of the acoustic hits session, i think some of the song choices there were really uninspired - not exactly bad but just uninspired. especially since their original unplugged session was so tremendous.
but well, perhaps they didn't want to do 'elise' because they didn't want to pick any of the same songs for the new acoustic session that were already included on the unplugged session.
anyway. just thinking out loud here.




Title: Re: Wish Remaster/Deluxe Edition?
Post by: pyota on October 20, 2008, 20:20:06
i also like the acoustic version of the song. the arrangement on the unplugged version is terrific and there's no way the polished studio version could ever reach the emotional depth of that half broken and out of tune-ish toy piano tune. the impact of that sound is the same as when you see an old abandoned toy, a teddy bear or a doll, waiting for a child to come and pick it up, waiting for someone to save it, to make it live again. there's just no way how the studio version could ever beat that.

agreed: also robert's voice was in rare form during that performance - although he screwed up the lyrics to the blood :)
Title: Re: Wish Remaster/Deluxe Edition?
Post by: revolt on October 21, 2008, 11:41:10


I also prefer the acoustic version of ALTE as it appeared on the MTV unplugged gig, but I wouldn't call the Wish version "overproduced". I mean, it certainly is more "packed" than the accoustic one but it doesn't sound over-polished and there's enough space in it for the instruments to "breathe", so to speak.

i also think that they really ruined wendy time, cut, and the big hand on wish, compared to the great demo versions at the t+c club in the play out video. obviously we can agree to disagree  :-D

But we don't disagree at all regarding this last comment from you... Both "Wendy Time" and "Cut" have clearly been ruined in "Wish", to the point that they became annoying. "The Big Hand" sounds better - maybe because it is such a great song that it is a bit hard to ruin it  - but it is also clearly less weel done as a B-side than it was live or in the instrumental version heard on the video.
Title: Re: Wish Remaster/Deluxe Edition?
Post by: fiction on December 06, 2008, 22:13:03
the unplugged version of letter to elise would also be nice to have on the bonus disc. imo its much better than the overproduced album/single versions. although the last time i saw it live it came off quite well, it should be an acoustic song!

Yes that would be nice. I really do look forward for the next four DeLuxe Editions.
Title: Re: Wish Remaster/Deluxe Edition?
Post by: isamu on December 14, 2008, 12:12:03
I can't wait until the remasters come out. WMS, BF Paris, etc sound fine. But Wish is in D*E*S*P*E*R*A*T*E need of a new remaster, and maybe needs to be remixed ENTIRELY it sounds so bad.
Title: Re: Wish Remaster/Deluxe Edition?
Post by: | SONA | on November 27, 2009, 19:55:35
Any updates on this?
Title: Re: Wish Remaster/Deluxe Edition?
Post by: Matti on November 28, 2009, 18:28:18
Probably not.

But, speaking of Wish, there's a "Custom Optimization" (i.e. a private amateur "remaster"/eq'd) version on TPB - has anyone listened to an has an opinion on it?
Title: Re: Wish Remaster/Deluxe Edition?
Post by: | SONA | on May 09, 2010, 01:39:45
Ok, so I see the Disintegration Reissue is coming, which is very awesome... any word on a Wish reissue yet (more awesome)? 
Title: Re: Wish Remaster/Deluxe Edition?
Post by: skellington on May 09, 2010, 05:05:52
That would be so nice to see because I have not been able to find even just an ordinary copy of the cd anywhere! :cry: If they did a deluxe maybe I would have a better chance of finding one
Title: Re: Wish Remaster/Deluxe Edition?
Post by: closedown on May 10, 2010, 20:06:10
Ok, so I see the Disintegration Reissue is coming, which is very awesome... any word on a Wish reissue yet (more awesome)? 

Maybe in 2012 for the 20th anniversary (or 2013 if they continue with those 21st anniversaries...). Seriously, it is rather a desaster what is happening with those reissues and I can't see a reason why they are all pushed back and back again. On one hand those companies all yell out due to money shortage + then they can't come up with the easiest money-grabbers, namely reissues...
Will be interesting to see, whether Wish will get the 3 disc treatment as well, if not, I think one can easily imagine it will end up in a similar way than Kiss Me. Hopefully the bonus disc will contain little to no livestuff (Paris + Show covered that already) and rather demos and outtakes.
Title: Re: Wish Remaster/Deluxe Edition?
Post by: cure-fan on July 25, 2010, 15:41:53
The Cure has recorded 25 songs for the WISH. ('A foolish arrangement' has been recorded later for B-side...).
They have had 40 demos (band members' home demo ideas).
They would have liked to record two albums in the same time: a normal one and an instrumental one.
There are 12 songs on the album, 5 B-side songs (+1), 4 instrumental songs (Lost wishes)...so, there are 4 unreleased songs from WISH recording sessions.
We know 2 other instrumental demos: 'Old England' and 'Heart attack'. I think these songs haven't been recorded for the album. I've heard two other supposedly existing songs from this era: 'Decadance' and 'Wedding dance'. ('Patel shout' was listed as a WISH out-take...but it is a WMS out-take.)

Title: Re: Wish Remaster/Deluxe Edition?
Post by: | SONA | on October 21, 2010, 20:26:13
They've remastered the albums chronologically so Wish has to be next.  This would need to be a damn box set though with the demos, Lost Wishes and other instrumentals along with the several unreleased tracks we've not heard.  That's like 4 discs.  In my dreams.
Title: Re: Wish Remaster/Deluxe Edition?
Post by: wish-man on October 21, 2010, 22:15:56

I wish it would be 3 Discs. But third shouldn't be remastered Show CD  :roll:  And yeah. Must be alot of new instrumental stuff  :smth020
Title: Re: Wish Remaster/Deluxe Edition?
Post by: sideshow on January 15, 2011, 05:34:02

I wish it would be 3 Discs. But third shouldn't be remastered Show CD  :roll:  And yeah. Must be alot of new instrumental stuff  :smth020
i m new here ,but ive been a fan since head, i agree totally , the third disc should be an audio version of the first 2 "concerts" from play out so i can get nice versions of away (a mellow version of cut iirc) , big hand , and  that nice 10 minute version of forest,
plus maybe some of that unplugged stuff as well. the wish era was very prolific and i would hope that show and paris get thier own remaster (maybe adding the tracks from show that were  cd-i only )  abyways nice forum!!!! :D
Title: Re: Wish Remaster/Deluxe Edition?
Post by: tothesky1988 on February 02, 2011, 17:54:07
I may be in the minority but the "Wish" era is by far my favorite of the Cure's, and I'm dying for a Deluxe Edition re-release as they've done with the early records.  I'm new to the forum but couldn't find any info on if/when this might happen.  If it does, might all the amazing b-sides including Lost Wishes be included?  I'm more interested in having the whole era on a 2 disc set including b-sides rather then demos etc. (although those would be be cool too).  I ripped my Lost Wishes tape to mp3 and it's amazing how muddled it sounds!

Absolutely agree with you here, though the current pressing for Wish sounds fine, I just hope the new version doesn't suffer the loudness war issues, look at the "Entreat deluxe" edition, which sounds like crap. But I hold hope they add some glorious extras, and package it all nicely.
Title: Re: Wish Remaster/Deluxe Edition?
Post by: tothesky1988 on February 02, 2011, 17:57:15
Probably not.

But, speaking of Wish, there's a "Custom Optimization" (i.e. a private amateur "remaster"/eq'd) version on TPB - has anyone listened to an has an opinion on it?

I have it, they simply added more on the bass end, so you could feel the impact of tunes like Open and FTEODGS, it's nothing special, but removes the need to use equalizer if you are upset with the "flat" sound of the album.
Title: Re: Wish Remaster/Deluxe Edition?
Post by: | SONA | on February 02, 2011, 19:10:14
Is there still no news on this reissue?  We're now quite a while after the Disintegration reissue so this should be starting to happen no?  I've been waiting for this thing forever.

I'm personally not into the live stuff as much as remastered versions of all the material they recorded during this period in one awesome package.  I have the standard b-sides remastered from the Box set but rare stuff like Lost Wishes and the handful of unreleased songs would be incredible... I'm sure they'll give us a plethora of weird Smith demos too which is what I'd prefer for the 3rd disc to be, not live stuff.... unless they can fit the album, Lost Wishes, the unreleased tracks/versions and demos on two discs, which I doubt. 

Are they going to make us wait until 2012 for a 20th anniversary edition?

Title: Re: Wish Remaster/Deluxe Edition?
Post by: tothesky1988 on February 02, 2011, 19:16:18
Is there still no news on this reissue?  We're now quite a while after the Disintegration reissue so this should be starting to happen no?  I've been waiting for this thing forever.

I'm personally not into the live stuff as much as remastered versions of all the material they recorded during this period in one awesome package.  I have the standard b-sides remastered from the Box set but rare stuff like Lost Wishes and the handful of unreleased songs would be incredible... I'm sure they'll give us a plethora of weird Smith demos too which is what I'd prefer for the 3rd disc to be, not live stuff.... unless they can fit the album, Lost Wishes, the unreleased tracks/versions and demos on two discs, which I doubt. 

Are they going to make us wait until 2012 for a 20th anniversary edition?

My guess is they're not really focused on, or concerned about Wish at the moment. And if they are, they're probably trying to sort out what should be put out, releasing Join The Dots as they did, I think their feelings on b-sides and the like are that "they're out there", though lost wishes would be a surprise, and instantly would be worth whatever they charge.
Title: Re: Wish Remaster/Deluxe Edition?
Post by: | SONA | on March 25, 2011, 21:11:23
where's the news on this!!??  They must do a 20th anniversary edition for 2012.  ARRHHH
Title: Re: Wish Remaster/Deluxe Edition 3 CD
Post by: Sartr on March 28, 2011, 11:56:31
Hi, guys! I found it today, i think its promo edition, the quality of main album seems sounds better, it's remastered
http://clubs.ya.ru/indie/replies.xml?item_no=1408
Title: Re: Wish Remaster/Deluxe Edition?
Post by: Matti on March 28, 2011, 12:25:27
Nice try...

1. The given picture depicts a US back cover of the Wish CD, the MC cover, the CD itself, a label of one of the vinyl discs, and the back cover of the Pure Cure promo sampler, all issued in 1992.

2. Apart from Wendy Time (demo), Heart Attack + Sivvy, CD 2 features tracks that have been widely available for a long time. After Galore and Greatest Hits, why should they release a "Rarities" CD that contains single / 7" Mixes?

3. A live CD... oh yeah. Ever heard of Show and Paris?
Title: Re: Wish Remaster/Deluxe Edition?
Post by: | SONA | on March 28, 2011, 18:59:07
Damn it.  This is obviously a fake but I'd still pay $30+ for Lost Wishes and a few rarities like a Wendy Time demo, Heart Attack & Sivvy... when the real one comes out.  I hope they use the third disk for rare studio recordings, mixes or demos... please no more live discs!
Title: Re: Wish Remaster/Deluxe Edition?
Post by: | SONA | on March 29, 2011, 21:47:04
Found this:  says he was doing Disintegration, Wish and Mixed Up 2 all in a row!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xl-_pne6g9g&feature=related
Title: Re: Wish Remaster/Deluxe Edition?
Post by: | SONA | on March 30, 2011, 00:54:29
Could someone who knows please list all the known studio recordings from the Wish era, including alternate mixes etc.  Thx.
Title: Re: Wish Remaster/Deluxe Edition?
Post by: Matti on March 30, 2011, 09:04:45
- Wish album tracks
- High single (single mix, Higher mix + 2 b-sides)
- FIIL (single mix, Strangelove mix + 2 b-sides)
- Elise single (single mix, Blue mix + 2 b-sides)
- Lost Wishes
- High (Trip mix)
- Open (Fix mix)
- Doing the Unstuck (extd. mix)
- Elise (extd. mix)
- Elise "semi-instrumental" (without main vocals)

Other than that, I guess any speculation about a remaster/deluxe doesn't make sense until we get any info from CoF and/or the official site...
Title: Re: Wish Remaster/Deluxe Edition?
Post by: | SONA | on March 30, 2011, 20:07:32
ok, so here is what I have then.  Asterisks were included on Join The Dots (which were remastered).  R. Smith mentioned doing a Mixed Up 2 along with the Wish Remaster so all or most of those remixes may not end up on the Wish box set?  Any other rare songs from the Wish era not on this list?


01 Open (6:51)
02 High (3:37)
03 Apart (6:40)
04 From the Edge of the Deep Green Sea (7:44)
05 Wendy Time (5:13)
06 Doing the Unstuck (4:24)
07 Friday I'm in Love (3:39)
08 Trust (5:33)
09 A Letter to Elise (5:14)
10 Cut (5:55)
11 To Wish Impossible Things (4:43)
12 End (6:46)

13 High (Single mix)
14 High (Higher remix)
15 High (Trip mix)
16 Play*
17 This Twilight Garden*
18 Open (Fix mix)

19 Friday I'm In Love (Single mix)
20 Halo*
21 Sacred As You*
22 Friday I'm In Love (Strangelove remix)

23 A Letter To Elise (Single mix)
24 A Letter To Elise (Blue mix)
25 A Letter To Elise (Extended mix)
26 A Letter To Elise (Semi-instrumental)
27 The Big Hand*
28 A Foolish Arrangement*

29 Uyea Sound (Instrumental)
30 Cloudberry (Instrumental)
31 Off To Sleep (Instrumental)
32 The Three Sisters (Instrumental)

33 Doing The Unstuck (Extended Saunders mix)*
34 The Big Hand (Instrumental)

35 Old England (Instrumental) ?
36 Heart Attack (Instrumental) ?
37 Decadence ?
38 Wedding Dance ?
Title: Re: Wish Remaster/Deluxe Edition?
Post by: davidgoliath77 on March 31, 2011, 10:17:38
I may be in the minority but the "Wish" era is by far my favorite of the Cure's, and I'm dying for a Deluxe Edition re-release as they've done with the early records.  I'm new to the forum but couldn't find any info on if/when this might happen.  If it does, might all the amazing b-sides including Lost Wishes be included?  I'm more interested in having the whole era on a 2 disc set including b-sides rather then demos etc. (although those would be be cool too).  I ripped my Lost Wishes tape to mp3 and it's amazing how muddled it sounds!

eh, it's 2011 and so far no sign of this happening.....

SONA, to me Wish is by far the best album that Robert and Co. had put out. I love them all but Wish holds a very special place in my heart.

Gosh, I was just finishing school when it came out and it was a perfect soundtrack for entering the adult life.

Memories memories :)
Title: Re: Wish Remaster/Deluxe Edition?
Post by: | SONA | on March 31, 2011, 17:29:04
I've added The Big Hand Instrumental to the above list.  Does anyone have the Elise Instrumental?  That's the only rarity I don't own (I think)...
Title: Re: Wish Remaster/Deluxe Edition?
Post by: Matti on March 31, 2011, 19:08:17
By The Big Hand instrumental you mean the version from which an excerpt can be heard during the credits of the Picture Show video?
Title: Re: Wish Remaster/Deluxe Edition?
Post by: | SONA | on March 31, 2011, 19:20:38
By The Big Hand instrumental you mean the version from which an excerpt can be heard during the credits of the Picture Show video?

Yeah, there was a version of The Big Hand mixed in instrumental form... used for the Picture Show video... although we've only got the 1:40 segment to this point, unless it's out there somewhere.

I also added 4 songs to the above list that haven't been verified which were supposedly demoed and/or tracked during the Wish sessions.
Title: Re: Wish Remaster/Deluxe Edition?
Post by: Ulrich on April 01, 2011, 09:56:38
I love them all but Wish holds a very special place in my heart.

Same here! I used to love "Disintegration" as well, but it wasn't the happiest time of my life (thus "Disintegration" was of course the perfect soundtrack to it!). Then I waited for a follow-up ("Never enough" already hinted at more guitars being used), when "Wish" finally was released, I was very happy. I really like to remember that time, most of them are happy memories (incl. my first Cure concert)!

In short, I hope for a remastered re-release too! Would be fine if this came out within the next 15 months or so, to celebrate the 20th anniversary of "Wish".  :D
(Seeing "Mixed Up" and "Wish" are the "next in line", it should be possible!)
Title: Re: Wish Remaster/Deluxe Edition?
Post by: andyhare77 on July 06, 2011, 09:02:35
I love them all but Wish holds a very special place in my heart.

Same here! I used to love "Disintegration" as well, but it wasn't the happiest time of my life (thus "Disintegration" was of course the perfect soundtrack to it!). Then I waited for a follow-up ("Never enough" already hinted at more guitars being used), when "Wish" finally was released, I was very happy. I really like to remember that time, most of them are happy memories (incl. my first Cure concert)!

In short, I hope for a remastered re-release too! Would be fine if this came out within the next 15 months or so, to celebrate the 20th anniversary of "Wish".  :D
(Seeing "Mixed Up" and "Wish" are the "next in line", it should be possible!)

Ulrich, David, I am pretty much with you, however, quite often I switch between the two albums. I think Wish is still my favorite but sometimes I just prefer disintegration. I guess it's the album you need to be in a mood for.

Title: Re: Wish Remaster/Deluxe Edition?
Post by: | SONA | on January 16, 2012, 05:31:23
ok, it's 2012, that means it's time for a 20th anniversary reissue of Wish!  Where is it?!! 
Title: Re: Wish Remaster/Deluxe Edition?
Post by: | SONA | on March 03, 2012, 19:06:32
I didn't see this a couple months ago, this is promising, though no actual sources are named. We'll find out next month if Record Store Day produces a FIIL single...

http://www.slicingupeyeballs.com/2011/12/07/the-cure-wish-reissue-friday-im-in-love-record-store-day-single/ (http://www.slicingupeyeballs.com/2011/12/07/the-cure-wish-reissue-friday-im-in-love-record-store-day-single/)
Title: Re: Wish Remaster/Deluxe Edition?
Post by: Ulrich on March 05, 2012, 10:22:31
Sounds good and gives hope!
You never know these days, like with "Disintegration" it might be late and a 21st anniversary reissue...

But it would be perfect, as a new album seems to be out later (I don't expect one with all the festival shows lined up for summer). Thus a "Wish" deluxe edition would be fine for 2012 and a new album later in the year or early 2013... We'll have to wait and see (as usual).
Title: Re: Wish Remaster/Deluxe Edition?
Post by: Ulrich on March 14, 2012, 18:42:46
News just in: "Wish" remaster deluxe cd confirmed by Robert for this year!
http://craigjparker.blogspot.com/2012/03/robert-interview-in-new-nme.html (http://craigjparker.blogspot.com/2012/03/robert-interview-in-new-nme.html)
Title: Re: Wish Remaster/Deluxe Edition?
Post by: SidneyCure on July 27, 2012, 13:51:36
Doing the Unstuck 12" mix should be on CD2!
Title: Re: Wish Remaster/Deluxe Edition?
Post by: Ulrich on September 15, 2012, 13:46:31
Still no sign/news of this re-release?
I hope it'll be out before Xmas. The band performed quite a few songs from this album during the summer tour, so to me it would make sense to release this soon.

Or will it be a "21st anniversary issue" like with Disintegration?  :roll:
Title: Re: Wish Remaster/Deluxe Edition?
Post by: SidneyCure on September 30, 2012, 15:00:13
It should be a really fat beefed up package (like Disint.)

CD. 1 : Wish (Remastered)
CD. 2 : Lost Wishes EP
CD. 3 : B-Sides/Single Mixes/Remixes
CD. 4 : Demos
CD. 5 : Show (Remastered) [Including the songs that were only available on the VHS - eg. A Forest & Boys Don't Cry] & Side Show EP
CD. 6 : Paris (Remastered)
DVD. 1: Show

Any extras?
Title: Re: Wish Remaster/Deluxe Edition?
Post by: Ulrich on September 30, 2012, 18:07:36
I don't think they will need one whole disc for an EP!
B-sides are on "Join the dots", so they will only feature in demo/rough versions...

Not sure about Show/Paris live recordings, if they would be remastered, I guess these would make their own package.
We'll have to wait and see (as usual). Why am I repeating myself?  ;)
Title: Re: Wish Remaster/Deluxe Edition?
Post by: SidneyCure on September 30, 2012, 18:34:44
Yeah guess UR right about the EP. Erm, I dont know about Show/Paris.
Personally, I wouldn't mind about wether they were separate or on Wish. I already have Paris on CD anyway
Title: Re: Wish Remaster/Deluxe Edition?
Post by: Ulrich on August 11, 2015, 14:23:02
Nice article just found about the "lost wishes" and also someone who's been waiting for the re-issue!

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Wish was the 9th, and certainly the most commercially successful album from The Cure. Despite this, there is yet to be a Deluxe Edition released through Rhino—who seem to have stopped with The Cure Reissues with 1989’s Disintegration.

http://www.post-punk.com/the-cures-rarest-4-songs-the-lost-wishes-ep/ (http://www.post-punk.com/the-cures-rarest-4-songs-the-lost-wishes-ep/)
Title: Re: Wish Remaster/Deluxe Edition?
Post by: MeltingMan on August 12, 2015, 16:34:17
I would imagine it will be a while before we see any more remasters/deluxe editions.
It's a shame, but I'd rather they were releasing new material than re-releasing the old stuff.
I tend in the same direction.The Deluxe Edition has been overdue for years and that means something.
I believe that Robert (considering former members too) is reluctant to extend the copyright period for Wish.Maybe I'm wrong,but I think that Wish Deluxe will not materialize as previously described
and expected. :(
Title: Re: Wish Remaster/Deluxe Edition?
Post by: Ulrich on August 12, 2015, 19:17:47
It would've been nice in 2012...

I believe that Robert (considering former members too) is reluctant to extend the copyright period for Wish.

In this case, I don't think Robert is the hold-up. Probably more the record companies, not wanting to spend the extra pennies for extensive booklets and double CDs and then people don't buy many of them.
Title: Re: Wish Remaster/Deluxe Edition?
Post by: MeltingMan on August 14, 2015, 19:02:50
and then people don't buy many of them.
A limited run would be quickly sold out. I can even imagine a compilation which has
drawn together with rare and/or unfinished material from the Wish,WMS and 4:13 Dream period,
but I know it's just speculation or a single thought. ;)
Title: Re: Wish Remaster/Deluxe Edition?
Post by: cheyler on August 21, 2015, 23:07:54
and then people don't buy many of them.
A limited run would be quickly sold out.I can even imagine a compilation which has
drawn together with rare and/or unfinished material from the Wish,WMS and 4:13 Dream period,
but I know it's just speculation or a single thought. ;)

It's unfortunate but that will never happen.  Record companies rarely welcome the opportunity to work together to make a product that would otherwise be impossible.  In fact they generally hate each other.  BUT...now that there is a lord god high Record Company, UNIVERSAL, it may be possible since they own f*****g everything!  Except the independents of course, but when the offers start getting too good to pass up, they'll start disappearing as well.  Music is dying and no one seems to have a reasonable solution...I sure don't.  Can't wait for the Wish deluxe edition.  Really!
Title: Re: Wish Remaster/Deluxe Edition?
Post by: MeltingMan on August 22, 2015, 14:33:04
Can't wait for the Wish deluxe edition.  Really!
I don't know. SONA restarted the subject several times in a space of
four years and sadly disappeared. I'm feeling sorry for him/her.
Lost Wishes sounds wonderful. How many fans would recognize The Cure's music without Robert's
voice? Not many. I think it's time for Wish Deluxe!
Title: Re: Wish Remaster/Deluxe Edition?
Post by: Denise on August 23, 2015, 08:17:26
The Cure's sound works with or without vocals, always.
Title: Re: Wish Remaster/Deluxe Edition?
Post by: cheyler on August 23, 2015, 18:23:06
RE: Lost wishes, the music  is distinctively The Cure, and a couple of the tunes would not be out of place on 'Wish'.  I'd go so far as to say a couple of the tunes are better than one or two on the album.  Like...Wendy Time and even End.  Perfect example of the law of diminishing returns, End never turns out to be greater than the sum of the parts.  Lots of effort but very little to show for it.  I wouldn't mind if they never played it again...providing they ever do play again, that is...
Title: Re: Wish Remaster/Deluxe Edition?
Post by: | SONA | on October 04, 2016, 06:59:06
I still check in on this every now and then, quite disheartening this thread has been up for so many years with no hint of the reissue.  A few of my other favorite albums by bands have come out with incredible box-sets featuring unreleased material but not a word on Wish.
Title: Re: Wish Remaster/Deluxe Edition?
Post by: cheyler on October 05, 2016, 04:46:18
The three remaining albums I'd like to have in deluxe editions are Wish, Show and Paris.  This for me is my all-time favorite era of The Cure, 1989-1992.  I change my mind from time to time and the 2008 band is my favorite for awhile, then I go back and start the whole thing over again.  I LOVE the guitars and Porl was on fire, especially after Roger left.  Porl was sort of pushed into a corner and given very few parts to play.  Gee, I wonder if that had anything to do with Roger leaving?  Porl must have felt like he was working underwater with ALL those keyboards in every song.
Title: Re: Wish Remaster/Deluxe Edition?
Post by: Ulrich on October 06, 2016, 11:50:28
A few of my other favorite albums by bands have come out with incredible box-sets featuring unreleased material but not a word on Wish.

We had that with The Cure as well, from "TIB" up to "Disintegration". I too had hoped for this one (seeing "Wish" was a big seller, unlike the following album), but maybe the band or the record company didn't agree with something or other when it came to details concerning the re-issue.
My main "wish" was of course hearing re-mastered versions of the "Lost wishes" (or even unreleased instrumentals).
Title: Re: Wish Remaster/Deluxe Edition?
Post by: Ulrich on April 16, 2018, 12:05:36
Now that "Mixed Up" will see a "remastered" version out very soon, I think we can look towards "Wish" remaster being the next one!  :smth023

http://craigjparker.blogspot.de/2018/04/want-time-mix-debuts-on-bbc-6.html
Quote
Also aired a bit more of the interview with Robert, where he confirmed that the 'Wish' remaster is finished and will be the next Deluxe Edition released.
Title: Re: Wish Remaster/Deluxe Edition?
Post by: cheyler on April 16, 2018, 20:04:14
YES!  Can't wait...!
Title: Re: Wish Remaster/Deluxe Edition?
Post by: Borl Poris on April 22, 2018, 19:21:04
Now that record store day is over and I got my vinyl copy of Torn Down and the download code, it's all about Wish for me now. I hope we aren't years away from release.

One thing that excited me reading this old thread was about the Paris remaster.
Its probably fallen off Robert's back burner years ago. I'm just hopeful it still gets a release. All those songs recorded over three shows in 92 have me drooling. I can only imagine how amazing it could be and will be even more amazed if it actually gets released

Title: Re: Wish Remaster/Deluxe Edition?
Post by: PearlThompsonsBloodflowers on April 23, 2018, 00:20:06
One thing that excited me reading this old thread was about the Paris remaster.
Its probably fallen off Robert's back burner years ago. I'm just hopeful it still gets a release. All those songs recorded over three shows in 92 have me drooling. I can only imagine how amazing it could be and will be even more amazed if it actually gets released


IKR!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!??!?!?!?!?!?!?!??!?!?!?!!!??!? Same!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Wish Remaster/Deluxe Edition?
Post by: cheyler on April 23, 2018, 02:13:00
Now that record store day is over and I got my vinyl copy of Torn Down and the download code, it's all about Wish for me now. I hope we aren't years away from release.

There's also the 3-CD Deluxe 'Mixed Up' too; 'Wish' will probably be released at the same time...I'm betting summer/fall of this year.

One thing that excited me reading this old thread was about the Paris remaster.
Its probably fallen off Robert's back burner years ago. I'm just hopeful it still gets a release. All those songs recorded over three shows in 92 have me drooling. I can only imagine how amazing it could be and will be even more amazed if it actually gets released

The 'Paris' album sounds much better than 'Show', to me anyway.  I'd love to get something along the lines of a complete show from the run plus bonus tracks of the various other songs they played at the other two shows so we'd get one version of  each song.  I don't know how many different songs they did in Paris, I haven't checked. 

The 'Show' deluxe edition interests me greatly too.  I don't know if it makes sense to do a 2-CD set of the film soundtrack plus a DVD of the film but I can't really think of anything else.  There wasn't much variation on that tour.
Title: Re: Wish Remaster/Deluxe Edition?
Post by: Borl Poris on April 23, 2018, 14:14:07
Now that record store day is over and I got my vinyl copy of Torn Down and the download code, it's all about Wish for me now. I hope we aren't years away from release.

There's also the 3-CD Deluxe 'Mixed Up' too; 'Wish' will probably be released at the same time...I'm betting summer/fall of this year.

One thing that excited me reading this old thread was about the Paris remaster.
Its probably fallen off Robert's back burner years ago. I'm just hopeful it still gets a release. All those songs recorded over three shows in 92 have me drooling. I can only imagine how amazing it could be and will be even more amazed if it actually gets released

The 'Paris' album sounds much better than 'Show', to me anyway.  I'd love to get something along the lines of a complete show from the run plus bonus tracks of the various other songs they played at the other two shows so we'd get one version of  each song.  I don't know how many different songs they did in Paris, I haven't checked. 

The 'Show' deluxe edition interests me greatly too.  I don't know if it makes sense to do a 2-CD set of the film soundtrack plus a DVD of the film but I can't really think of anything else.  There wasn't much variation on that tour.

There were eleven songs performed and recorded in Paris that were not released.
Three Imaginary Boys
Jumping S E's Train (snippet)
Fire In Cairo (Acoustic)
It's Not You (Acoustic)
M
Faith
A Strange Day
Forever
Shake Dog Shake
Hot Hot Hot!!
The Big Hand

That would be an incredible bonus disc. I agree it would be fantastic to hear more Paris versions of songs that appeared on Show. I doubt any performance could top the Show version of A Forest.
That one's amazing
Title: Re: Wish Remaster/Deluxe Edition?
Post by: cheyler on April 24, 2018, 07:34:40
I'd like to see that bonus disc too.  M, Faith, A Strange Day and The Big Hand are four of my favorite songs.  We need a good live version of The Big Hand, like the London T&CC II show from 1991, but I'll take Paris.  The 'Show' version of A Forest is one of the best; I like the 'In Orange' version from 1986 too.

The next three Deluxe Editions should be 'Wish', 'Show' and 'Paris'...can't wait!  Three of my favorites.
Title: Re: Wish Remaster/Deluxe Edition?
Post by: Ryan on April 25, 2018, 12:03:35
I’m extremely excited for this!