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Title: Siouxsie & the Banshees (feat. Robert Smith)
Post by: Ulrich on July 15, 2015, 10:49:23
Although it is not really a "solo project", I'm missing a topic about Robert's stint as the guitarist in Siouxsie & the Banshees.
This happened twice, 1979 (for a tour only) and 1982-1984 (various tours, tv appearances, a single, a live album + a studio album).

Here you can find a new article incl. 2 nice vids from a tv show in 1979!  :smth020
http://dangerousminds.net/comments/siouxsie_and_the_banshees_with_a_young_robert_smith_on_something_else_1979 (http://dangerousminds.net/comments/siouxsie_and_the_banshees_with_a_young_robert_smith_on_something_else_1979)

Melt & Painted Bird (OGWT 1982)
https://youtu.be/s-5mVUb1gqM (https://youtu.be/s-5mVUb1gqM)
https://youtu.be/y5jmB4xgNWw (https://youtu.be/y5jmB4xgNWw)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nocturne_(Siouxsie_and_the_Banshees_album) (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nocturne_(Siouxsie_and_the_Banshees_album))

Nice article about "Hyeana" (1984):
http://www.post-punk.com/siouxsie-and-the-banshees-hyaena-turns-30/ (http://www.post-punk.com/siouxsie-and-the-banshees-hyaena-turns-30/)

Title: Re: Siouxsie & the Banshees (feat. Robert Smith)
Post by: Ulrich on December 01, 2015, 12:12:03
http://www.post-punk.com/siouxsie-and-the-banshees-nocturne/ (http://www.post-punk.com/siouxsie-and-the-banshees-nocturne/)

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One of the best Post-Punk live albums of all time is most certainly Siouxsie & The Banshees’ Nocturne. Recorded September 30th and October 1st, and released on November 25th, 1983, Nocturne was a double live album and concert video from two amazing sets at Royal Albert Hall in London.

The concerts were two homecoming gigs after the band had performed abroad in Japan, Australia, and Israel—and followed the released of the Dear Prudence single which marked the acquisition of The Cure’s Robert Smith as an official member of the band. Smith had previously been a temporary member replacing John McKay for the remainder of the Join Hands tour in ’79, so this was the Cure singer/guitarists second time filling in for an outgoing Banshees guitarist—in this case the hard to fill shoes of the brilliant John McGeoch.

You can pick up a copy of Nocturne in the upcoming Banshees boxsets, the first of which is due out on January 29th, 2016.
Title: Re: Siouxsie & the Banshees (feat. Robert Smith)
Post by: BiscuityBoyle on February 11, 2016, 19:37:13
Need to listen to Hyeana; I guess I was always put off by a couple of disparaging remarks made by Robert about the strings etc.

Anyway, travelling to Jerusalem with the Banshees was a direct inspiration for The Wailing Wall, which to me is one of The Cure's greatest songs. I've come across a couple of testimonies on his brief stay in Israel (I read Hebrew) and by all accounts he didn't have the best of times, consumed industrial amounts of beer and refused to speak about The Cure with local enthusiasts... Not that you'd assume as much listening to the song, which is of course among The Cure's most uplifting!  :-D 

Title: Re: Siouxsie & the Banshees (feat. Robert Smith)
Post by: Ulrich on February 12, 2016, 16:03:13
Need to listen to Hyeana; I guess I was always put off by a couple of disparaging remarks made by Robert about the strings etc.

Well, it's not a bad album. It has its flaws and Robert probably hears 'em more than we do.  ;)
I guess he saw its potential and wasn't too happy about the result. ("Out of the 10 songs finally chosen for 'Hyaena' four are good and six are boring" is what he said once.)

I listened to it around the time I made that post (or a bit before) and enjoyed it. And that article from post-punk I linked is good, they're right: Robert's guitar work on "Blow the house down" is amazing.  :smth020
Title: Re: Siouxsie & the Banshees (feat. Robert Smith)
Post by: BiscuityBoyle on February 12, 2016, 18:52:14
Yeah I agree, it deserves careful consideration regardless of what Robert said about it one time or another.

Not good at listening to entire albums in a single intake but Take Me Back is such a great song! I'm gonna go ahead and assume that the idea for Budgie's ace marimba riff came from Robert and/or Severin under the influence of Captain Beefheart, their favourite and mine :D Especially in a year when Robert penned his superb Trout Mask Replica homage, Give Me It.

BY THE WAY, from today's perspective Siouxsie's fat-shaming of Robert ("fat Bob", and I seem to remember "fat boy Smith") is "problematic", though Gothic rock goddesses cannot be expected to abide by the laws of political correctness, I suppose. Always thought he looked amazing in 1984 though.   
Title: Re: Siouxsie & the Banshees (feat. Robert Smith)
Post by: BiscuityBoyle on March 27, 2016, 17:43:02
If The Hanging Garden is The Cure's great Banshees-style single, this is literally a Cure pop song by Siouxsie & co

! No longer available (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6P5TUpN-VU#)
Title: Re: Siouxsie & the Banshees (feat. Robert Smith)
Post by: piggymirror on June 23, 2016, 10:34:52
Three interviews that, reading between the lines, can tell you a bit of what led to Robert leaving the Banshees.
Pity that Robert never managed to get John McGeoch into The Cure, that could have been incredible, but maybe they couldn't find each other at the right time.

The last we know about Robert having anything to do with the Banshees was that very recent pic of him and Severin in Edinburgh. Hope Severin's ok.

www.musicfanclubs.org (interview from Guitar World, June 1996) -click to read in its entirety- (http://www.musicfanclubs.org/cure/press/I11.html)

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[...] GW: How did playing with the Banshees impact your guitar style?

RS: It allowed me to experiment. I inherited an approach from John [McKay, the Banshee's first guitarist] which was just to have everything full up, really. It was just a matter of getting somewhere in the region of the right chord and you got away with it. Severin's bass was so loud, Budgie's drums were so thunderous, and Siouxsie's voice was so loud in the mix that there was very little room for guitar. It was phased/flanged distortion noise, really. There were only about 5 songs where I had to learn the parts. The rest of it was just in a key.

It was a lot more interesting the second time I played with the Banshees and inherited John McGeoch's setup. [_McGeoch has also played with Magazine, Visage, and P.I.L.] He had an old MXR flanger mounted on a mike stand; he'd hit a chord and sweep the flange knob in real time. I actually watched a video of what he was doing and that gave me insight. They wanted me to use his guitar, but I refused - again, on grounds of aesthetics! I said, "That's an ugly instrument. I'm not going to play it." But I used his amp instead.

GW: John McGeoch is a sadly underrated and unappreciated guitarist.

RS: Yes, he is. I used to go out with him quite a bit. He left the Banshees under a bit of a cloud, but he stayed friendly with me and Severin. Last time I saw him was about 4 years ago, I think, in a hotel lobby. It was toward the end of his tenure with P.I.L. There was a real air of desperation - they weren't getting anywhere. We were leaving to go to a gig and so were they. It was in America so we were playing this Enormo-Dome sort of place and they were playing a club. John Lydon had an attitude of "I should be doing that, not them." It was really weird. McGeoch was kind of stuck in the middle, apologizing for having to side with his band. [...]



The Independent (Nov/02/1997) -click to read in its entirety- (http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/arts-alas-smith-and-clones-1291727.html)

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[...] Those with long memories will recall that Smith was the Banshees guitarist for 18 months in the early Eighties, playing, most memorably, on the single "Dear Prudence". Asked if there was any ego clash between himself and the famously spiky Siouxsie Sioux, he permits himself a brief explosion of mirth, a sort of wheezy snigger. "It caused quite a lot of friction at the time, because the Cure were actually selling more records than the Banshees. We did 'Lovecats' and it was a big hit! When I was with the Banshees, I refused any payment. It meant they couldn't make me do anything. Sioux found it difficult; she's unused to males saying no to her." There's a long pause after this statement. "I've not seen or spoken to her but I'm not sure that Sioux and I would be on very good terms. She'd probably hold a grudge." [...]



www.untiedundone.com (interview from UNCUT, January 2005) -click to read in its entirety- (http://www.untiedundone.com/020105b.html)

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[...] "WHY'S HE ON THE COVER?" demands Siouxsie Sioux. "Fat fool!"

"He" is Robert Smith and "the cover" is that of Uncut's sister publication NME Originals, their recent edition dedicated to goth. Or "goff", as the erstwhile queen of punk snorts derisively. Maybe Siouxsie has never fully forgiven the Cure frontman and one-time Banshees guitarist for deserting her band on the eve of a 1984 world tour. As Smith recently told Uncut (Take 87), he was diagnosed with chronic blood poisoning and quit on doctor's orders. Siouxsie's having none of it.

"It wasn't like he became ill," she complains. "He was one of those people who just didn't say 'no' to anything, so when it's self-induced it's hard to have sympathy. To actually say two days before a tour that's been planned in advance that he can't do it - f*** off! What a lightweight."

Or maybe she should have been on the cover herself? [...]
Title: Re: Siouxsie & the Banshees (feat. Robert Smith)
Post by: piggymirror on June 23, 2016, 10:51:06
Another interesting fact is that certain Banshees fans have Robert in more or less the same position as Jason Cooper.

In The Cure, it's a Jason Cooper vs Boris Williams "war".
The Banshees version of that flamewar, it's Robert Smith vs John McGeoch.

The fun side of the story is that, if I'm not mistaken, there must be one record having "something" (can't say exactly what) containing Robert Smith, John McGeoch and maybe even Porl Thompson.
That's obviously Blue Sunshine.

If you have that album, look at the leaflet. You'll see a reference to a "recorded using the fish-panning method by Mr.Waverley". If I'm not wrong, that Mr.Waverley is none other than John McGeoch (the Mr.Waverley thing comes after a boat called Waverley in Greenock, McGeoch's birthplace in Scotland).

Interestingly, Martin McCarrick, who joined the Banshees in 1987, also appears on Blue Sunshine, as well as Andy Anderson and (if I remember correctly), some reference to "Porl and Lol".
Title: Re: Siouxsie & the Banshees (feat. Robert Smith)
Post by: piggymirror on June 23, 2016, 11:38:07
Need to listen to Hyeana; I guess I was always put off by a couple of disparaging remarks made by Robert about the strings etc.

I don't own the Ten Imaginary Years book (oficial Cure bio 1976-1986), but I seem to remember Reading about him not being very satisfied with the keyboards masking his guitar parts a bit too much.

Besides, he didn't get as much credit as he'd like, and that, for a second time, because he wrote or co-wrote at least one song from Kaleidoscope ('Hybrid', and correct me if I'm wrong, but I seem to remember him claiming his involvement in 'Christine').

Well, it's not a bad album. It has its flaws and Robert probably hears 'em more than we do.  ;)
I guess he saw its potential and wasn't too happy about the result. ("Out of the 10 songs finally chosen for 'Hyaena' four are good and six are boring" is what he said once.)

Must be that six songs were his, but he got no credit for that.
One is certainly 'Swimming Horses', which he as good as rewrote and turned into 'Six Different Ways'.

Interestingly, there's a funny number of Banshees/Creatures songs that have something to do with The Cure... or in reverse.

In 1987, the Banshees released the B-side 'The Whole Price Of Blood' -click to listen- (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AUqM1QXir7E), containing a previous recording of Robert on sitar.

Later on, in 1998, The Creatures released the song Pinned Down -click to listen- (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rURap5H8sqI), which... has a riff that is suspiciously similar to 'M'.

And in 1999, The Creatures released the song Exterminating Angel -click to listen- (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B7EohbF2A_I), which ressembles Wailing Wall more than a bit.

Finally, in 2008 The Cure released Sleep When I'm Dead, whose bassline ressembles quite a lot the Candyman bassline (Robert said it was a "Head On The Door outtake"). Candyman -click to listen- (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bTRPcUIOHxY) was recorded by the Banshees in 1985, released in 1986. It's in the Tinderbox album, which I've always found it has some vague similarity to Distintegration, to some degree (and it has a 'Lullaby', too, although the Banshees 'Lullaby' is just a B-side -a very good one though).

Curious, isn't it?

I listened to it around the time I made that post (or a bit before) and enjoyed it. And that article from post-punk I linked is good, they're right: Robert's guitar work on "Blow the house down" is amazing.  :smth020

Indeed it is.

Click here to watch a live recording of the Banshees in 1984 (Running Town, Bring Me The Head Of The Preacher Man, and an incomplete Blow The House Down) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D90qEeEFerM).
It's the only time I've seen Robert play his famous "fishbone" broken guitar.
The three of them sound rather different from the album versions btw.
Title: Re: Siouxsie & the Banshees (feat. Robert Smith)
Post by: Ulrich on June 24, 2016, 11:29:45
The Banshees version of that flamewar, it's Robert Smith vs John McGeoch.

Where does that happen? I've never visited a Banshees forum in my life (if there is one), maybe better that way.  ;)

That's obviously Blue Sunshine.

If you have that album, look at the leaflet.

I have it (vinyl bought in early 90's or so), no leaflet inside though.  :roll:
Title: Re: Siouxsie & the Banshees (feat. Robert Smith)
Post by: Ulrich on June 24, 2016, 18:02:28
Did a bit of Google research and found this article about "A Kiss In The Dreamhouse" and why and how John McGeoch had to be replaced (not a very nice story, but told by Severin and Sioux themselves):

http://www.uncut.co.uk/features/siouxsie-and-the-banshees-we-were-losing-our-minds-2572
Title: Re: Siouxsie & the Banshees (feat. Robert Smith)
Post by: stefano on June 24, 2016, 18:04:15
Did a bit of Google research and found this article about "A Kiss In The Dreamhouse" and why and how John McGeoch had to be replaced (not a very nice story, but told by Severin and Sioux themselves):

http://www.uncut.co.uk/features/siouxsie-and-the-banshees-we-were-losing-our-minds-2572
danke, Ulrich !
Title: Re: Siouxsie & the Banshees (feat. Robert Smith)
Post by: piggymirror on June 29, 2016, 07:04:18
Severin on Facebook:

May 2:

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Slowly but surely, on the mend. Upgrading the studio this summer. Two solo albums coming by the end of the year.

June 9:

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Memoir a-go-go! My literary agent is starting to pitch to interested parties and I shall be writing an outline over the weekend to spur them on. Also in talks with a label to release a vinyl version of my unreleased CALIGARI score(s).

 :-D
Title: Re: Siouxsie & the Banshees (feat. Robert Smith)
Post by: piggymirror on June 29, 2016, 07:10:32
The Banshees version of that flamewar, it's Robert Smith vs John McGeoch.

Where does that happen? I've never visited a Banshees forum in my life (if there is one), maybe better that way.  ;)

There is no open Banshees forum that I'm aware of now.
The last one was closed, and that flamewar was one of the main reasons.
It went as far as to reach Severin's own website (which used to have a forum).

You can still see bits of that flamewar on the YouTube comments to certain Banshees albums or songs.

That's obviously Blue Sunshine.

If you have that album, look at the leaflet.

I have it (vinyl bought in early 90's or so), no leaflet inside though.  :roll:

I'll try and find the leaflet and write here what can be read on it. It's in a drawer at the moment. Later though.
Title: Re: Siouxsie & the Banshees (feat. Robert Smith)
Post by: Ulrich on June 29, 2016, 09:02:11
There is no open Banshees forum that I'm aware of now.
The last one was closed, and that flamewar was one of the main reasons.

You can still see bits of that flamewar on the YouTube comments to certain Banshees albums or songs.

No thanks, I can live happily without ever reading those! (I hardly read any yt comments anyway. I go there to watch videos, listen to songs...)

I'll try and find the leaflet and write here what can be read on it. It's in a drawer at the moment.

No hurry, maybe I can find it online. Later.
Title: Re: Siouxsie & the Banshees (feat. Robert Smith)
Post by: Ulrich on July 02, 2016, 15:10:47
I'll try and find the leaflet ...

I found it online (or at least part of it).

(http://52.17.98.47/upload/items/3830-7-2.jpg)
Title: Re: Siouxsie & the Banshees (feat. Robert Smith)
Post by: piggymirror on August 15, 2016, 21:47:45
Need to listen to Hyeana; I guess I was always put off by a couple of disparaging remarks made by Robert about the strings etc.

I don't own the Ten Imaginary Years book (oficial Cure bio 1976-1986), but I seem to remember Reading about him not being very satisfied with the keyboards masking his guitar parts a bit too much.

Besides, he didn't get as much credit as he'd like, and that, for a second time, because he wrote or co-wrote at least one song from Kaleidoscope ('Hybrid', and correct me if I'm wrong, but I seem to remember him claiming his involvement in 'Christine').

Here is the studio version of Hybrid (click here to listen) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1wl-Iqs-mOA).
John McGeoch on guitar.

And here is the studio version of Christine. John McGeoch on guitar as well.
Christine really does sound a lot like a Cure song. Or maybe some Cure songs sound Banshee-like.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rtt_0OKzRek

I don't know wether Robert had a hand on Christine or not, but it definitely sounds Seventeen Seconds-ish.
Christine is officially a Severin song (Sioux did the B-side, the very gloomy Eve White/Eve Black).
Maybe Severin and Robert were listening to the same music at the time.
But I can clearly imagine Robert singing it.
McGeoch doesn't appear on the video because by then he wasn't a permanent member yet.

Btw, here is a 1982 version of Christine with Robert on guitar (click to listen) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uqrPLWxH5sM).
Title: Re: Siouxsie & the Banshees (feat. Robert Smith)
Post by: piggymirror on August 16, 2016, 17:51:56
This is not exactly related to the time of Robert's tenure as a Banshee, but here are two more curious coincidences:

Hello I Love You, by Siouxsie solo:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ev_twM4V3-E



Witchcraft, by The Creatures (on a medley with The Vamp and Standing There):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=njS_h8v_iQo

Title: Cure/Banshees/Creatures/Glove/Siouxsie combined discography.
Post by: piggymirror on August 18, 2016, 20:32:37
Here is a combined chronological discography of both bands and their parallel projects, counting all studio, remixes, and live albums, but not counting live videos (excepting Siouxsie's Dreamshow and The Cure's In Orange and Trilogy, which are counted given their exceptionality) or singles/greatest hits compilations (excepting The Cure's Japanese Whispers, which is counted as a studio album).

I've separated each band by a different color (The Cure in green, The Banshees in red, The Glove in blue, The Creatures in orange, Cult Hero in brown, Siouxsie in pink), albums go in capitals, Banshees recordings with Robert being credited as a player are marked thus (+), and Banshees recordings released under Robert's two tenures are underlined (regardless of Robert playing on the records or not).

Finally, later on I'll edit this post with the chart positions (if and when I find them).

-Hong Kong Garden (18 August 1978)
-THE SCREAM (13 November 1978)
-Killing An Arab (21 December 1978)
-The Staircase (Mystery) (23 March 1979)
-THREE IMAGINARY BOYS (8 May 1979)
-Boys Don't Cry (15 June 1979)
-Playground Twist (28 July 1979)
-JOIN HANDS (7 September 1979)
-Mittageisen (Metal Postcard)/Love In A Void (September 1979)
-Jumping Someone Else's Train (20 November 1979)
-Cult Hero (December 1979)
-Happy House (7 March 1980)
-A Forest (28 March 1980)
-SEVENTEEN SECONDS (22 April 1980)
-Christine (30 May 1980)
-KALEIDOSCOPE (1 August 1980)
-Israel (28 November 1980)
-Primary (20 march 1981)
-FAITH (14 April 1981)
-Spellbound (22 May 1981)
-JUJU (6 June 1981)
-Arabian Knights (24 July 1981)
-Wild Things EP (25 September 1981)
-Charlotte Sometimes (5 October 1981)
-PORNOGRAPHY (4 May 1982)
-Fireworks (21 May 1982)
-The Hanging Garden (12 July 1982)
-Slowdive (4 October 1982)
-A KISS IN THE DREAMHOUSE (5 November 1982)
-Let's Go To Bed (15 November 1982)
-Melt! (26 November 1982)
-Miss The Girl (15 April 1983)
-FEAST (15 May 1983)
-The Walk (27 June 1983)
-Right Now (8 July 1983)
-Like An Animal (9 August 1983)
-BLUE SUNSHINE (23 August 1983)
-Dear Prudence (23 September 1983, +)
-The Lovecats (18 October 1983)
-Punish Me With Kisses (18 November 1983)
-NOCTURNE (LIVE, 25 November 1983, +)
-JAPANESE WHISPERS (6 December 1983)
-Swimming Horses (16 March 1984, +)
-The Caterpillar (26 March 1984)
-THE TOP (30 April 1984)
-Dazzle (25 May 1984, +)
-HYAENA (8 June 1984, +)
-The Thorn EP (19 October 1984)
-CONCERT (LIVE, 22 October 1984)
-In Between Days (15 July 1985)
-THE HEAD ON THE DOOR (26 August 1985)
-Close To Me (9 September 1985)
-Cities In Dust (18 October 1985)
-Half An Octopus EP (8 December 1985)
-Candyman (28 February 1986)
-Boys Don't Cry (New Voice New Mix) (April 1986)
-TINDERBOX (21 April 1986)
-This Wheel's On Fire (5 January 1987)
-THROUGH THE LOOKING GLASS (2 March 1987)
-The Passenger (16 March 1987)
-Why Can't I Be You? (6 April 1987)
-KISS ME KISS ME KISS ME (25 May 1987)
-Catch (22 June 1987)
-Song From The Edge Of The World (13 July 1987, +)
-IN ORANGE (LIVE, October 1987)
-Just Like Heaven (5 October 1987)
-Hot Hot Hot!!! (8 February 1988)
-Peek-A-Boo (18 July 1988)
-PEEPSHOW (5 September 1988)
-The Killing Jar (19 September 1988)
-The Last Beat Of My Heart (21 November 1988)
-Lullaby (10 April 1989)
-Fascination Street (18 April 1989)
-DISINTEGRATION (2 May 1989)
-Lovesong (21 August 1989)
-Standing There (10 October 1989)
-BOOMERANG (6 November 1989)
-Fury Eyes (19 February 1990)
-Pictures Of You (19 March 1990)
-Never Enough (17 September 1990)
-Close To Me (Closer Mix) (22 October 1990)
-MIXED UP (REMIXES, 20 November 1990)
-A Forest (Tree Mix) (6 December 1990)
-ENTREAT (LIVE, 25 March 1991)
-Kiss Them For Me (13 May 1991)
-SUPERSTITION (13 May 1991)
-Shadowtime (1 July 1991)
-Fear (Of The Unknown) (22 October 1991)
-High (16 March 1992)
-WISH (21 April 1992)
-Friday I'm In Love (11 May 1992)
-Face To Face (13 July 1992)
-A Letter To Elise (5 October 1992)
-SHOW (LIVE, 19 October 1993)
-PARIS (LIVE, 26 October 1993)
-O Baby (28 December 1994)
-THE RAPTURE (17 January 1995)
-Stargazer (6 February 1995)
-The 13th (22 April 1996)
-WILD MOOD SWINGS (7 May 1996)
-Mint Car (17 June 1996)
-Strange Attraction (8 October 1996)
-Gone! (2 December 1996)
-Eraser Cut EP (3 August 1998)
-2nd Floor (5 October 1998)
-ANIMA ANIMUS (15 February 1999)
-Say (15 March 1999)
-Prettiest Thing (6 September 1999)
-HYBRIDS (REMIXES, 2 November 1999)
-Out Of This World (January 2000)
-BLOODFLOWERS (15 February 2000)
-Maybe Someday (April 2000)
-US Retrace (9 May 2000)
-TRILOGY (LIVE, 3 June 2003)
-THE SEVEN YEAR ITCH (LIVE, June 2003)
-Godzilla! (13 October 2003)
-HAI! (20 October 2003)
-THE CURE (29 June 2004)
-The End Of The World (19 July 2004)
-Alt.End (12 October 2004)
-Taking Off (18 October 2004)
-DREAMSHOW (LIVE, 13 September 2005)
-Into A Swan (3 September 2007)
-MANTARAY (10 September 2007)
-Here Comes That Day (29 October 2007)
-About To Happen (10 March 2008)
-The Only One (13 May 2008)
-Freakshow (13 June 2008)
-Sleep When I'm Dead (13 July 2008)
-The Perfect Boy (13 August 2008)
-Hypnagogic States EP (13 September 2008)
-4:13 DREAM (28 October 2008)
-BESTIVAL LIVE 2011 (LIVE, 6 December 2011)
-Love Crime (4 December 2015)
Title: Re: Siouxsie & the Banshees (feat. Robert Smith)
Post by: piggymirror on October 24, 2017, 04:24:50
I had forgotten about it, but I'm re-reading Ten Imaginary Years, and in it, Robert says he was in the studio with the Banshees during the recording of "A Kiss In The Dreamhouse"... go figure, we'll probably never know, but some Dreamhouse songs have "Robert was here" written all over them (namely Cascade, Slowdive, Melt and particularly She's A Carnival).
But it's true that they have "Severin" and "McGeoch" all over them, too.

Although it's true that Cure and Banshees have very, very similar sounds at times.
It is obvious that Cocoon was an ancestor of Lovecats, that Slowdive owes more than just one bit to Primary, and that She's A Carnival is an ancestor of some of the classic Cure pop singles (but hey, Boys Don't Cry was there first).

Later on in the book, Robert says Budgie attended a Cure concert in 1986 and liked it... That's interesting.
Title: Re: Siouxsie & the Banshees (feat. Robert Smith)
Post by: Ulrich on October 26, 2017, 11:48:59
I had forgotten about it, but I'm re-reading Ten Imaginary Years, and in it, Robert says he was in the studio with the Banshees during the recording of "A Kiss In The Dreamhouse"...

Yeah indeed, but I understood it as a way of "went to see the Banshees", thus it was a friend's visit to the studio to say "hi" and hang about for a while, maybe go for a drink... (i.e. no involvement in the actual recording session).
Title: Re: Siouxsie & the Banshees (feat. Robert Smith)
Post by: piggymirror on November 19, 2017, 06:18:42
I had forgotten about it, but I'm re-reading Ten Imaginary Years, and in it, Robert says he was in the studio with the Banshees during the recording of "A Kiss In The Dreamhouse"...

Yeah indeed, but I understood it as a way of "went to see the Banshees", thus it was a friend's visit to the studio to say "hi" and hang about for a while, maybe go for a drink... (i.e. no involvement in the actual recording session).

Credited.

Btw, Siouxsie (at least her) went to see The Cure at RAK during the recording of Pornography.
Title: Re: Siouxsie & the Banshees (feat. Robert Smith)
Post by: Ulrich on November 30, 2017, 10:47:23
Nothing really new in the text, but lots of good photos and many videos linked (some of them I'd not seen before)!!

http://www.post-punk.com/siouxsie-sioux-and-robert-smith/