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Title: Decentralized finance (DeFi)
Post by: dsanchez on January 04, 2020, 01:08:57
QuoteAt a time when high interest savings accounts are languishing at an anemic 2%, Craig Hammell found a way to earn more than 8% this past summer. Instead of storing his money with a bank, the software engineer lent it out to cryptocurrency owners on Compound, an automated lending platform.

More here (https://fortune.com/2019/11/14/crypto-interest-startup-compound-decentralized-finance/) and below.

Website: https://compound.finance/
Title: Re: DeFi: Compound
Post by: Ulrich on January 04, 2020, 14:40:24
Let us know how it worked, if you try it.

Need to be careful these days, many cheaters & tricksters out there (apparently some using to the "hype" around cryptocurrency).
Title: Re: DeFi: Compound
Post by: dsanchez on January 04, 2020, 17:01:20
Yes, of course. But compound.finance is just one actor from DeFi, what is happening there is going to be a revolution, but it will take time. We are just starting and at the moment even investing there is more for geeks because of all the technicalities. Some good reading here:

DeFi' movement promises high interest but high risk (https://www.ft.com/content/16db565a-25a1-11ea-9305-4234e74b0ef3)

Decentralized Finance: 5 Things You Should Know About DeFi (https://defiprime.com/decentralized-finance-5-things-you-should-know)

And although I trust compound.finance (https://compound.finance/) (the other one reliable is makerdao (https://makerdao.com/en/)) the main risk is someone hacking and stealing the funds (not really a scam in this case), although this has happened also with traditional banks. That's why these systems are audited (https://blog.openzeppelin.com/compound-audit/) every 3 months at least, looking for flaws and vulnerabilities. I loaded about 500 EUR there just to see how it goes, need more time to see how stable and reliable this is. For now, most of my savings are distributed more or less this way:

1) 30% in a traditional bank account which pays a ridiculous 0,3% year (in Peru banks pay 4% year!)

2) 60% invested in the stock market. I have a mix of bonds, stocks and commodities to manage risk. 2019 was a great year, with 25% in profits! Just 83x more what the bank above would offer :P For those in the EU I recommend degiro (https://www.degiro.com/) (which was recently acquired by German broker Flatex AG)

3) About 5-10% is invested in Bitcoin and Etherum. As of this writing Ether is worth 119.37 EUR but I think it will double (at least) its price this year (the reason being is DeFi, because as more people will use this, the value of Ether will proportionally increase). This of course is a high risk market hence I only invest here something that wouldn't put me on the streets if it crashes hard :)

I do really hope DeFi will succeed and people will have real control of their money. f*ck the banks! (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=acx8pyFavas)
Title: Re: Decentralized finance (DeFi)
Post by: Ulrich on January 05, 2020, 10:04:47
Thanks for your impressions, seems it worked out well for you.

And one of those links gives a good "headline": high interest, but high risk.  :1f62e:
Title: Re: Decentralized finance (DeFi)
Post by: dsanchez on January 05, 2020, 12:46:50
Well you know, if you don't risk you don't win :)
Title: Re: Decentralized finance (DeFi)
Post by: dsanchez on January 26, 2020, 19:40:33
Just starting putting some money aside for future Cure gigs in Compound through the Argent wallet (https://www.argent.xyz/) (very easy to install and use!). Will keep you updated on this. Current yearly interest in compound is 5,9% (in Slovakia my bank offers no more than 0,3%). I am of course not putting too much there (top would be perhaps 2,000 EUR) as this is in it's infancy and need to see how it goes before I can fully trust this:

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EPOjt4dWsAELWVn?format=jpg&name=4096x4096)
Title: Re: Decentralized finance (DeFi)
Post by: dsanchez on February 08, 2020, 18:27:32
Quote from: dsanchez on January 04, 2020, 17:01:20As of this writing Ether is worth 119.37 EUR but I think it will double (at least) its price this year

should have bought more... it's about 205 EUR now!