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Offline japanesebaby

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Re: Two masters on Dime (Perth '07 and Hannover '85)
« Reply #75 on: March 18, 2008, 03:17:37 »
Oh well, it should still be a nice one to watch. 

but not to listen. it's supposed to be a concert dvd...
besides, MLK source is a good source so making it mono makes no sense. if it was a matter of disc space then why not just leave out the camcorder track completely?


**edit. i don't want to sound like a completely ungrateful d***head, just complaining. i AM grateful that videos form the tour do surface. but i'm simply pretty confused because i do think everyone of us would prefer enjoying music in STEREO. and i do know somewhat of producing dvds like this myself, and i simply cannot see any reason at all why the audio should have been made mono.
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Re: Two masters on Dime (Perth '07 and Hannover '85)
« Reply #76 on: March 18, 2008, 13:51:24 »
How difficult would it be to match the video from the DVD with the MLK version of the audio?

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Re: Two masters on Dime (Perth '07 and Hannover '85)
« Reply #77 on: March 18, 2008, 14:50:29 »
How difficult would it be to match the video from the DVD with the MLK version of the audio?

It could take a lot of time, considering the video surely has cuts from tape changes that aren't present on the MLK version. Not to mention that even digital audio sources don't always run at exactly the same speed, so sometimes you have to experiment with various pitch shifting values to get everything lined up perfectly.

And then you'd have to make a brand new menu and all that stuff. It really wouldn't be a lot of fun, considering all this could have been (easily) avoided in the first place.

I have enough of my own personal projects to work on than to start worrying about fixing everyone else's stuff.

I did an audio/video restoration similar to this a few weeks ago (different band, though). It's definitely no picnic, and not something I'd ever look forward to doing.

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Re: Two masters on Dime (Perth '07 and Hannover '85)
« Reply #78 on: March 18, 2008, 18:22:50 »
Ok here's the deal with the Milan DVD...

The videotaper's method of replacing the audio involves loading both audio tracks into a single file in Sound Forge. He puts one track in the left channel, and the other in the right (each in mono since Sound Forge doesn't have multitrack support).

Then he matches them up with each other so they are in synch. So when everything's done and he downmixes the final tracks, they are in mono.

Now, this is a crude method and not something an expert would do, but that seems to be the only way he knows how to do it.

At least he's not putting them in mono by choice (to conserve space or whatever). I was mistaken in suspecting this.

Still disappointing, but at least I understand it better now.

 

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