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Offline pelicanmusicstuff

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Stupid people ask stupid questions
« on: June 03, 2008, 06:28:47 »
I downloaded the dime hollywood bowl show on limewire and it was almost time to be awesome and then it suddenly wasn't. What the hell is FLAC? It won't open in Itunes or any of the programs on my computer. Is there a way I can get this on my Ipod or convert it an mp3 or something different. I have the show but its like a water everywhere but not a drop to drink kind of thing, you know? If any one can help me out I'd greatly appreciate it.

edit: just saw a post about this where it was suggested Winamp, which I personally can't stand. I just like my Itunes and want something easy...btw why are MP3s so bad?

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Re: Stupid people ask stupid questions
« Reply #1 on: June 03, 2008, 07:19:50 »
welcome pelicanmusicstuff

there are a few programs you can use to convert flac to other formats. FLAC Frontend is one, as well as dBpoweramp.

I have used both of these and find them okay. Then it's easy enuff to pop into itunes.  :smth023

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Re: Stupid people ask stupid questions
« Reply #2 on: June 03, 2008, 15:49:55 »
here i found the site for dBpoweramp..

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http://www.dbpoweramp.com/
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Re: Stupid people ask stupid questions
« Reply #3 on: June 03, 2008, 16:04:14 »
The newest versions are Winamp (anything after 2.xx) are a indeed a bit clunky out of the box, but if you tweak the settings it's still hard to beat.

For something simpler, you can always try Foobar:

http://www.foobar2000.org


MP3 was pretty cool back in 1998, when hard drives were never bigger than 10 GB.

But times change. Quality over quantity. Technology should go forward, no?  ;)

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Re: Stupid people ask stupid questions
« Reply #4 on: June 03, 2008, 16:07:00 »
edit: just saw a post about this where it was suggested Winamp, which I personally can't stand. I just like my Itunes and want something easy...btw why are MP3s so bad?

*presses 'play'*:
"like all lossy compression, mp3 compression is destructive compression. an mp3 file retains only part of the sound data of the original uncompressed file. thus it's mangled/butchered/part of the sound was thrown away - whichever way you look at it , this is what happened there. thus it can never be as good as the original and unlike people all over the web insist, one can hear a difference between a lossy file and a lossless file. maybe you don't hear it if you only ever use your computer's speakers and/or those utterly awful headphones they "generously" give you when you buy an ipod - but that's not a good  excuse for forced violence."

mp3s are like those replica rolex watches that you ordered by replying to that spam mail that you got: looks sort of nice at first but only as long as you don't take any closer look.
another example of destructive compression: it's like someone took leonardo's mona lisa, thought it was nice but just maybe a bit too wide around the edges and took scissors to cut out everything else than the face of the fair lady and still insisted that "look! this is mona lisa!". right.


(i'm on mac so i should probably love itunes since it's "apple stuff", but personally i think itunes is really poor and far from something easy. i have never used that as my main media player since a lot better things are available for free. and even if i never used winamp myself i don't doubt it's the winner of the two.
anyway.)
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Re: Stupid people ask stupid questions
« Reply #5 on: June 03, 2008, 21:46:22 »
edit: just saw a post about this where it was suggested Winamp, which I personally can't stand. I just like my Itunes and want something easy...btw why are MP3s so bad?

*presses 'play'*:
"like all lossy compression, mp3 compression is destructive compression. an mp3 file retains only part of the sound data of the original uncompressed file. thus it's mangled/butchered/part of the sound was thrown away - whichever way you look at it , this is what happened there. thus it can never be as good as the original and unlike people all over the web insist, one can hear a difference between a lossy file and a lossless file. maybe you don't hear it if you only ever use your computer's speakers and/or those utterly awful headphones they "generously" give you when you buy an ipod - but that's not a good  excuse for forced violence."

mp3s are like those replica rolex watches that you ordered by replying to that spam mail that you got: looks sort of nice at first but only as long as you don't take any closer look.
another example of destructive compression: it's like someone took leonardo's mona lisa, thought it was nice but just maybe a bit too wide around the edges and took scissors to cut out everything else than the face of the fair lady and still insisted that "look! this is mona lisa!". right.


(i'm on mac so i should probably love itunes since it's "apple stuff", but personally i think itunes is really poor and far from something easy. i have never used that as my main media player since a lot better things are available for free. and even if i never used winamp myself i don't doubt it's the winner of the two.
anyway.)

well its not THAT bad... so long as its done right. The more you compress it obviously the more is lost. It would be more like taking a huge 9.2 megapixel photo of the mona lisa, opening it in paint then squishing it down to being 1280 x 800 and then pulling it back to 9.2 megapixel... There would be a noticeable loss in image quality when compared to the original.

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Re: Stupid people ask stupid questions
« Reply #6 on: June 03, 2008, 23:06:00 »
edit: just saw a post about this where it was suggested Winamp, which I personally can't stand. I just like my Itunes and want something easy...btw why are MP3s so bad?

*presses 'play'*:
"like all lossy compression, mp3 compression is destructive compression. an mp3 file retains only part of the sound data of the original uncompressed file. thus it's mangled/butchered/part of the sound was thrown away - whichever way you look at it , this is what happened there. thus it can never be as good as the original and unlike people all over the web insist, one can hear a difference between a lossy file and a lossless file. maybe you don't hear it if you only ever use your computer's speakers and/or those utterly awful headphones they "generously" give you when you buy an ipod - but that's not a good  excuse for forced violence."

mp3s are like those replica rolex watches that you ordered by replying to that spam mail that you got: looks sort of nice at first but only as long as you don't take any closer look.
another example of destructive compression: it's like someone took leonardo's mona lisa, thought it was nice but just maybe a bit too wide around the edges and took scissors to cut out everything else than the face of the fair lady and still insisted that "look! this is mona lisa!". right.


(i'm on mac so i should probably love itunes since it's "apple stuff", but personally i think itunes is really poor and far from something easy. i have never used that as my main media player since a lot better things are available for free. and even if i never used winamp myself i don't doubt it's the winner of the two.
anyway.)

well its not THAT bad... so long as its done right. The more you compress it obviously the more is lost. It would be more like taking a huge 9.2 megapixel photo of the mona lisa, opening it in paint then squishing it down to being 1280 x 800 and then pulling it back to 9.2 megapixel... There would be a noticeable loss in image quality when compared to the original.

well ok. but then again, sometimes slight exaggeration can help you to make your point - even if it is exaggeration. 
the point is that mona lisa's getting treated in a nasty manner there, when she's being squeezed and pulled and squished there anyway.
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