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Wish Remaster/Deluxe Edition?

Started by | SONA |, October 15, 2008, 20:00:23

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cheyler

I'd like to see that bonus disc too.  M, Faith, A Strange Day and The Big Hand are four of my favorite songs.  We need a good live version of The Big Hand, like the London T&CC II show from 1991, but I'll take Paris.  The 'Show' version of A Forest is one of the best; I like the 'In Orange' version from 1986 too.

The next three Deluxe Editions should be 'Wish', 'Show' and 'Paris'...can't wait!  Three of my favorites.

Ryan

I'm extremely excited for this!
Remember the time that the sky went black
We waited alone on the sands
Remember the taste of the raging sea
But nobody held out their hands

OWEI

Still no sign of Wish Deluxe remaster :-(

cheyler

It's been done for months, don't know what the hang-up is.

| SONA |

I started this post TWELVE YEARS AGO!!!! WHAT IS THE FREAKING DELAY??

cheyler

To paraphrase Basil Fawlty, "Please get it released before one of us dies..."

cheyler

Seems to me that RS only does things when he feels like it, and I can't begrudge him that; he's earned it.

OWEI

Quote from: cheyler on February 12, 2020, 22:02:23Seems to me that RS only does things when he feels like it, and I can't begrudge him that; he's earned it.

True, but if it's been ready for months, why sit on it?
Surely it's uncomfortable?😂

SueC

Quote from: cheyler on February 12, 2020, 22:02:23Seems to me that RS only does things when he feels like it, and I can't begrudge him that; he's earned it.

I wonder if that includes taking out the rubbish / recycling.  :angel


Quote from: OWEI on February 13, 2020, 10:19:03True, but if it's been ready for months, why sit on it?
Surely it's uncomfortable?😂

My husband has a theory that this means they actually are about to release their new studio album, and that the remaster of Wish isn't supposed to interfere / compete with that, and would logically be released a bit later.  (Of course, this doesn't explain why it wasn't released last year etc.)
SueC is time travelling

Ulrich

Quote from: | SONA | on February 12, 2020, 21:34:52I started this post TWELVE YEARS AGO!!!! WHAT IS THE FREAKING DELAY??

Nobody knows the exact reasons. We can only guess. First of all, in general, the re-releases of remastered albums stopped for quite some time after "Disintegration" (deluxe edition) back in 2010. (Up to then, in chronological order the previous album from '79 onwards had been re-released.)

Only (much) later in 2018, they followed this up with the "Mixed Up" remaster (plus new remixes).
Why this long break inbetween? No idea. Record company issues? RS waiting for the right moment to do his remixes?

Of course it's only logical that the next one should be "Wish". To me it would make sense to release this after the new album around late 2021/2022, so it will be kind of a 30th anniversary reissue.
If only I'd thought of the right words...

OWEI

Quote from: SueC on February 13, 2020, 13:14:13
Quote from: cheyler on February 12, 2020, 22:02:23Seems to me that RS only does things when he feels like it, and I can't begrudge him that; he's earned it.

I wonder if that includes taking out the rubbish / recycling.  :angel

I'm sure it wouldn't be the End of the World if he didn't...😂😂😂


Quote from: OWEI on February 13, 2020, 10:19:03True, but if it's been ready for months, why sit on it?
Surely it's uncomfortable?😂

My husband has a theory that this means they actually are about to release their new studio album, and that the remaster of Wish isn't supposed to interfere / compete with that, and would logically be released a bit later.  (Of course, this doesn't explain why it wasn't released last year etc.)

Maybe 20 years ago, but now? I doubt it.
The target market for deluxe remasters is the fans who've got older, brats have left home and they've got cash to spend on the merch etc they maybe didn't 20 years ago.
They'll probably buy the new elpee as well.
Eg Supergrass have just released a box set at £150 and Pink Floyd's early years was heading for £400!
😱

PJ4A

My all time favorite time period of The Cure was Disintegration, Mixed Up, Wish, Show & Paris - inclusive of "Burn" and their cover of "Purple Haze" which I package with the Wish era.  THAT was their zenith in my opinion.

Needless to say, I was beyond happy when both Disintegration AND Mixed Up were the first reissues to get 3CD versions... although I still would have preferred all the single's b-sides & remixes for Disintegration rather than Entreat Plus.

Bringing us to Wish, since it's my personal fav album, I have checked in about the deluxe edition approx once a week for a decade.  It's maddening that it STILL hasn't happened.  And I can't stop thinking about what the bonus disc(s) would contain.  Obviously hoping for the 4 tracks released via the Lost Wishes cassette, but am hoping for ALL the demos that made their way out via the Music for Dreams bootleg, all the single's b-sides regardless of them being on Join the Dots, and every remix done from a Wish track which there are about 12 of.

I've always wanted a complete version of Show on CD, so a deluxe edition of that would be epic.  And only  just  now finding out there are even more songs from Paris that weren't released... yes!, give us a deluxe version of that too.  I just wouldn't want any repeats from Show - something I always appreciated with the original releases.

Anything thereafter... I'm pretty indifferent to.

I do very much hope that one day they decide to do vinyl boxsets that include the albums and every 12" single from each one.  Depeche Mode are currently releasing boxes of every 12" single which is pretty cool, but sadly they don't include the albums... which they should.  Yet someone like Sisters of Mercy did it exactly right like that.  IE: The Floodland Collection featuring the remastered album + all 3 singles housed in a slipcase box.  I would kill for something like from The Cure... assuming of course it didn't take 40 years to ever complete like these CD deluxe editions have been.

cheyler

Probably a safe bet re: demos and early rough mixes; those have been included on every deluxe reissue so far.  The 'Lost Wishes' tracks are almost guaranteed, in my view anyway.  It would be nice to have the b-sides even though they were included on 'Join The Dots'.  I'd bet on their inclusion too since it would be from a more recent mastering than the one done in 2004.  On the third disc, I'd love to see either a cleaned-up version of the promo video of the Kilburn show in early May 1992 or maybe even the complete show since the whole thing was filmed anyway.  Barring technical problems on a whole bunch of tracks, it should be relatively simple to include. The XFM recording of the entire show is probably the best-sounding Cure available at the moment.  The set-list might artificially inflate my opinion of the show, but it is truly amazing.  RS said in an interview in the last day or two that the recording part of the new album is complete and now needs to be mixed, mastered, approved, pressed and distributed.  He says 'definitely by the end of the year', and he says nobody is going to believe him until they see it in the shops.  He's got a point.

SueC

Quote from: OWEI on February 13, 2020, 15:35:27Seems to me that RS only does things when he feels like it, and I can't begrudge him that; he's earned it.

Quote from: undefinedI wonder if that includes taking out the rubbish / recycling.  :angel

Quote from: undefinedI'm sure it wouldn't be the End of the World if he didn't...😂😂😂

No, but it could lead to A Night Like This:winking_tongue  :evil:  :beaming-face

Your theory makes sense too.  :smth023  It's just that logic and reason don't seem to apply as much with things people do as would be nice to see.  :angel   We're waiting for the re-release too, since we don't yet have Wish.

We just got the remaster of KM (same reason) and are delighted with the sound quality.  We have a non-remaster version of Disintegration on which we can't hear the cymbals properly, nor other high-frequency sounds, and the whole thing sounds like an MP-3.  Always wondered if we got a dud and how that could possibly have happened.  All its missing things aren't missing on Trilogy.

We didn't bother getting the extra material version of the KM re-master (but would consider it for Wish depending what it is) .  We also never listen to the acoustic disc of their Best Of, because it just doesn't do anything for us.  And it's not because we don't like acoustic versions, in general - e.g. the Yeah Yeah Yeah's Gold Lion is excellent both ways.  But some things seem sort of superfluous, unless you're a really hardcore fan who wants to listen to every note that this band ever recorded.
SueC is time travelling

OWEI

Where can I find the Kilburn recording, please as it wasn't on the travelling drive?

Ta!