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QuoteOne of the best Post-Punk live albums of all time is most certainly Siouxsie & The Banshees' Nocturne. Recorded September 30th and October 1st, and released on November 25th, 1983, Nocturne was a double live album and concert video from two amazing sets at Royal Albert Hall in London.The concerts were two homecoming gigs after the band had performed abroad in Japan, Australia, and Israel--and followed the released of the Dear Prudence single which marked the acquisition of The Cure's Robert Smith as an official member of the band. Smith had previously been a temporary member replacing John McKay for the remainder of the Join Hands tour in '79, so this was the Cure singer/guitarists second time filling in for an outgoing Banshees guitarist--in this case the hard to fill shoes of the brilliant John McGeoch. You can pick up a copy of Nocturne in the upcoming Banshees boxsets, the first of which is due out on January 29th, 2016.
Quote from: BiscuityBoyle on February 11, 2016, 19:37:13Need to listen to Hyeana; I guess I was always put off by a couple of disparaging remarks made by Robert about the strings etc.
Quote[...] GW: How did playing with the Banshees impact your guitar style? RS: It allowed me to experiment. I inherited an approach from John [McKay, the Banshee's first guitarist] which was just to have everything full up, really. It was just a matter of getting somewhere in the region of the right chord and you got away with it. Severin's bass was so loud, Budgie's drums were so thunderous, and Siouxsie's voice was so loud in the mix that there was very little room for guitar. It was phased/flanged distortion noise, really. There were only about 5 songs where I had to learn the parts. The rest of it was just in a key. It was a lot more interesting the second time I played with the Banshees and inherited John McGeoch's setup. [_McGeoch has also played with Magazine, Visage, and P.I.L.] He had an old MXR flanger mounted on a mike stand; he'd hit a chord and sweep the flange knob in real time. I actually watched a video of what he was doing and that gave me insight. They wanted me to use his guitar, but I refused - again, on grounds of aesthetics! I said, "That's an ugly instrument. I'm not going to play it." But I used his amp instead. GW: John McGeoch is a sadly underrated and unappreciated guitarist. RS: Yes, he is. I used to go out with him quite a bit. He left the Banshees under a bit of a cloud, but he stayed friendly with me and Severin. Last time I saw him was about 4 years ago, I think, in a hotel lobby. It was toward the end of his tenure with P.I.L. There was a real air of desperation - they weren't getting anywhere. We were leaving to go to a gig and so were they. It was in America so we were playing this Enormo-Dome sort of place and they were playing a club. John Lydon had an attitude of "I should be doing that, not them." It was really weird. McGeoch was kind of stuck in the middle, apologizing for having to side with his band. [...]
Quote[...] Those with long memories will recall that Smith was the Banshees guitarist for 18 months in the early Eighties, playing, most memorably, on the single "Dear Prudence". Asked if there was any ego clash between himself and the famously spiky Siouxsie Sioux, he permits himself a brief explosion of mirth, a sort of wheezy snigger. "It caused quite a lot of friction at the time, because the Cure were actually selling more records than the Banshees. We did 'Lovecats' and it was a big hit! When I was with the Banshees, I refused any payment. It meant they couldn't make me do anything. Sioux found it difficult; she's unused to males saying no to her." There's a long pause after this statement. "I've not seen or spoken to her but I'm not sure that Sioux and I would be on very good terms. She'd probably hold a grudge." [...]
Quote[...] "WHY'S HE ON THE COVER?" demands Siouxsie Sioux. "Fat fool!" "He" is Robert Smith and "the cover" is that of Uncut's sister publication NME Originals, their recent edition dedicated to goth. Or "goff", as the erstwhile queen of punk snorts derisively. Maybe Siouxsie has never fully forgiven the Cure frontman and one-time Banshees guitarist for deserting her band on the eve of a 1984 world tour. As Smith recently told Uncut (Take 87), he was diagnosed with chronic blood poisoning and quit on doctor's orders. Siouxsie's having none of it. "It wasn't like he became ill," she complains. "He was one of those people who just didn't say 'no' to anything, so when it's self-induced it's hard to have sympathy. To actually say two days before a tour that's been planned in advance that he can't do it - f*** off! What a lightweight." Or maybe she should have been on the cover herself? [...]
Quote from: Ulrich on February 12, 2016, 16:03:13Well, it's not a bad album. It has its flaws and Robert probably hears 'em more than we do. I guess he saw its potential and wasn't too happy about the result. ("Out of the 10 songs finally chosen for 'Hyaena' four are good and six are boring" is what he said once.)
Quote from: Ulrich on February 12, 2016, 16:03:13I listened to it around the time I made that post (or a bit before) and enjoyed it. And that article from post-punk I linked is good, they're right: Robert's guitar work on "Blow the house down" is amazing.
Quote from: piggymirror on June 23, 2016, 10:51:06The Banshees version of that flamewar, it's Robert Smith vs John McGeoch.
Quote from: piggymirror on June 23, 2016, 10:51:06That's obviously Blue Sunshine.If you have that album, look at the leaflet.
Quote from: Ulrich on June 24, 2016, 18:02:28Did a bit of Google research and found this article about "A Kiss In The Dreamhouse" and why and how John McGeoch had to be replaced (not a very nice story, but told by Severin and Sioux themselves):http://www.uncut.co.uk/features/siouxsie-and-the-banshees-we-were-losing-our-minds-2572
QuoteSlowly but surely, on the mend. Upgrading the studio this summer. Two solo albums coming by the end of the year.
QuoteMemoir a-go-go! My literary agent is starting to pitch to interested parties and I shall be writing an outline over the weekend to spur them on. Also in talks with a label to release a vinyl version of my unreleased CALIGARI score(s).
Quote from: Ulrich on June 24, 2016, 11:29:45Quote from: piggymirror on June 23, 2016, 10:51:06The Banshees version of that flamewar, it's Robert Smith vs John McGeoch.Where does that happen? I've never visited a Banshees forum in my life (if there is one), maybe better that way.
Quote from: Ulrich on June 24, 2016, 11:29:45Quote from: piggymirror on June 23, 2016, 10:51:06That's obviously Blue Sunshine.If you have that album, look at the leaflet. I have it (vinyl bought in early 90's or so), no leaflet inside though. :roll:
Quote from: piggymirror on June 29, 2016, 07:10:32There is no open Banshees forum that I'm aware of now.The last one was closed, and that flamewar was one of the main reasons.You can still see bits of that flamewar on the YouTube comments to certain Banshees albums or songs.
Quote from: piggymirror on June 29, 2016, 07:10:32I'll try and find the leaflet and write here what can be read on it. It's in a drawer at the moment.