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The Cure to release new album end of 2019?

Started by dsanchez, February 02, 2019, 13:18:10

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Ulrich

Quote from: tanyasmith on June 21, 2019, 18:37:42Falling in love with famous people is such a common experience that I've spent many years thinking about it. It seems pretty simple. There's a famous artist, actor, musician, entrepreneur that a person connects with, like would probably get along with if they knew them in their real lives and that famous person is projected all over the world, so in a way they become as familiar as a parent or best friend or lover. They have no faults, look perfect, and it's easy to project that they'd never disappoint or hurt the person who loves them.

But that's an illusion. They do have faults, they disappoint, they sweat, they need to go to the toilet, like everyone else.  :1f632:

I'm in the lucky position to have met some of my "heroes" (and no, I won't mention names here). The very positive side was: to me they really are (were) the persons they put across through their public appearances (I'd read the interviews, listened to the records, watched videso etc.).
Of course, if you happen to spend more than just a few hours with them (say: a week-long holiday, or accompany them on tour for a little while) you get to see "negative" sides of them too. But for me it was a good experience and eye-opening. And most importantly: I still like them, most and foremost as human beings (not as "idols" or whatever).

Quote from: tanyasmith on June 21, 2019, 18:37:42Famous people tend to be more confident with themselves and are willing to take more risks than the average person.

I wouldn't say that. Many may seem "confident", but aren't (deep inside). Also, there are artists who like to "play it safe", e.g. those who do repeat their successful "formula" etc.
Can't you see I try? Swimming the same deep water as you is hard...

piggymirror

After the NME interview, most of the hope I had on The Cure releasing a new album has disappeared.

I'm starting to feel like if they were pulling my leg.

They used to say... "this is our last album". And it was a lie.

Now they say "we're recording/have recorded an album/two albums". And for ten years, it's been a lie. It's the new normal.

I don't know wether I can believe them any more. Part of me wants them to go on.
But another part of me won't accept any random album, and even less won't accept it as an excuse to go and see them live.

I'm starting to be quite fed up with this silly nonsense.

At least the Banshees had the dignity of knowing when to stop.

tanyasmith

I get your sentiment, PiggyintheMirror. It might feel like they're playing with fans, but to me it seems to reflect that they're having a hard time producing something that they feel is worth peoples listening to. I wonder if they've gotten to a point of satisfaction with all the success that they've attained that they don't have as much to write about? A lot of their stuff from the past was inspired by their lives, feeling rebellious, or what Robert Smith was reading. Maybe Robert Smith is just having creative blocks? Or maybe what seemed like a really good idea at the time is not turning out as expected? Like have you had a great idea and you spend some time developing it and then somebody criticizes it or tells you to be realistic and your inspiration just goes out the window? I wonder if something like that has been going on.

chemicaloverload

But Piggymirror, if you know that's been the script for the last ten years, you canny get mad about it, can you? If you took every word anyone ever said to the press as gospel, the world would be like George's 1984.



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word_on_a_wing

...did I read a different NME interview? I felt pretty positive overall (Other than the documentary seeming to be delayed indefinitely?).
It was great to hear so much from RS

Things I heard:
*the album is heading towards the sound of Pornography and Disintegration rather than the later albums
(...woohoo). Gosh I hope that means not only the songs, but the production too!

*the album is still planned for release.  With no pressure to release it (ie no contract etc)...yes this means they can keep working on it till it feels right for release, which may mean delays to the initial 2019 plan.. but he indicates they are working on it (studio time booked around the Glasgow show)
-I don't feel particularly down about that. If/when it's meant to be released it will
...in the meantime, fans pushing and hollering at them won't change that





"Where the flesh meets the spirit world,
Where the traffic is thin..."

Ulrich

Quote from: word_on_a_wing on July 07, 2019, 07:21:28...did I read a different NME interview?

Seems like some people only read a few lines and then "know" it all already.

The album is on its way, according to the NME interview, I have no idea what some people read into it...
Can't you see I try? Swimming the same deep water as you is hard...

tanyasmith

Here's something from The Irish Examiner:

"The new album, in a funny way, it's not going to be that enjoyable.

"I know I shouldn't say that... it's something, it's a piece, we've tried and it just won't work.

"We've tried to squeeze a couple of songs in. I can imagine the crowd just staring back at us when we're playing it."

https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/entertainment/the-cures-robert-smith-says-new-album-not-going-to-be-that-enjoyable-933895.html


dsanchez

Quote from: tanyasmith on July 07, 2019, 18:55:15"The new album, in a funny way, it's not going to be that enjoyable.

he meant is not going to be enjoyable for the masses, which is great news for Curefans!
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tanyasmith

Quote from: dsanchez on July 07, 2019, 19:01:13
Quote from: tanyasmith on July 07, 2019, 18:55:15"The new album, in a funny way, it's not going to be that enjoyable.

he meant is not going to be enjoyable for the masses, which is great news for Curefans!

Yes, Dsanchez, it seems that's what is being said. I just get the sense that he's trying to make it into something it doesn't want to be, so he's been feeling stuck. I giggle at a lot of the ways he explains things. It's hilarious! And I love it!

piggymirror

Quote from: word_on_a_wing on July 07, 2019, 07:21:28...did I read a different NME interview? I felt pretty positive overall (Other than the documentary seeming to be delayed indefinitely?).
It was great to hear so much from RS

Things I heard:
*the album is heading towards the sound of Pornography and Disintegration rather than the later albums
(...woohoo). Gosh I hope that means not only the songs, but the production too!

*the album is still planned for release.  With no pressure to release it (ie no contract etc)...yes this means they can keep working on it till it feels right for release, which may mean delays to the initial 2019 plan.. but he indicates they are working on it (studio time booked around the Glasgow show)
-I don't feel particularly down about that. If/when it's meant to be released it will
...in the meantime, fans pushing and hollering at them won't change that

Regardless of the Pornography/Disintegration commercial decoys...

This is exactly the same song he's been singing to the media since even before 4:13 Dream was released.

Not to say since it was released.

If he were less fussy and more do-y, I'd find it a bit more plausible.

Not that I'm hoping for anything particularly relevant any more. 

Ulrich

Quote from: tanyasmith on July 07, 2019, 18:55:15Here's something from The Irish Examiner:

"The new album, in a funny way, it's not going to be that enjoyable.

That quote just makes more sense when it's read together with the sentence which goes before:

"I want the crowd to be part of the show, not for us to stand there and say 'Here's 10 minutes of doom and gloom, you'd better enjoy it.'

i.e. he says it's not gonna be "enjoyable" for a festival crowd.
Can't you see I try? Swimming the same deep water as you is hard...

word_on_a_wing

Quote from: piggymirror on July 08, 2019, 03:35:10....Not that I'm hoping for anything particularly relevant any more.

Man you are a sad puppy ... does someone need a hug?
"Where the flesh meets the spirit world,
Where the traffic is thin..."

SueC

Quote from: the thread of a dream on June 20, 2019, 13:18:43...and well, I'm not sure why he back combs his hair... (to make him more zany- and wacky?) They did crimp their hair for a bit actually...

I know I've said this before, but people really could make life so much easier for themselves and save so much time if they employed a van de Graaff generator on freshly washed hair; only takes a minute or two to get to this...



...and then you just spray-fix it with your free hand before you take the other hand off... simple!  :cool
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Ulrich

In the latest interview (from Fuji Rock, Japan) Robert mentions that they recorded music, but the vocals are far from finished - he needs to write words and sing them still... Will have to wait and see how long it takes.
Can't you see I try? Swimming the same deep water as you is hard...

SueC

@Ulrich, do you know the saying, "A watched kettle never boils"?  ;)

Also - re that avatar photo - do you know if there is a full transcript of that Bowie/RS interview anywhere? I can only ever find a bit of it...
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