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The Cure "40 Live Curaetion 25 + Anniversary" Deluxe Box Set

Started by dsanchez, August 05, 2019, 22:15:17

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SueC

Thanks for clarifying that!  :)  We feel like we're on an archaeological dig.  ;)  So is the film for Show no longer commercially available?
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Ulrich

Quote from: SueC on December 29, 2019, 02:46:57So is the film for Show no longer commercially available?

No, so far it has not been re-released on dvd (or bluray).
With luck you can find a VHS copy on Ebay or somewhere... (or just watch it on yt).

Back in the 90's I really enjoyed the "Show" video, because it was from the Wish tour and I'd seen one concert from that tour (Oct. '92), thus on video it looked similar to the show I'd experienced (the setlist wasn't the same, of course).
If only I'd thought of the right words...

SueC

Thank you for the information, @Ulrich.  I promise my next post will be back to the exact topic!  :angel
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Finally got around to watching the first half of the Cureation-25 gig last night and we both enjoyed that enormously.  To be honest, I was half expecting to be bored at the start because I'm not a huge fan of their earliest music (studio stuff, anyways) but I really wasn't, it was fantastic.  I tend anyway to prefer The Cure's music live - it takes on extra dimensions, is imbued with life and immediacy etc, plus they can do that AND sound technically better than in the studio at the same time, so wow... and it's just amazing to watch them put their music together in real time, just a bunch of people and their instruments...magic.

There's something viscerally comforting about the rhythm section at the core of this band - bass and drums just seep into you like some sort of auditory vitamin infusion; the low range drapes over you like a warm blanket on a cold day; your brain engages on this subterranean level, away from the usual cerebral stuff, and you just are.  It's very much the backbone of this music and carries everything else - splendid guitars working in with this, keyboards woven through, vocals floating around, sometimes not for quite a while because it's not the be-all and end-all of all this, and that's excellent...

We were talking about how this concert was shot, compared with the Hyde Park gig - the latter made us feel almost as if we were there; this one feels more like a documentary about the band.  Starting on the old TV screen dimensions for the first song, and that old video feel, took us back in time with it, although Brett was already saying, "OK, I just hope they don't do the whole gig like this!"  But they didn't...

A little wish, and I wonder if some others would like this too:   I wish for optional subtitles on concert films, in the little black bar beneath the film so as not to interfere with the footage.  It would allow a person to immediately get a better handle on the lyrics of unfamiliar material.  I find it so frustrating to only catch snatches of the words, as happens in some songs (and it's not just me, Brett actually has even more trouble making out what is being sung);  even just missing out a word in a line immediately becomes so unpleasant and makes it even harder to attend to what's next as the brain scrambles to keep up.   Maybe it's because I'm an avid reader, but if I watch a film with the subtitles on, I've already grasped what is being said well before the sentence is even out of a person's mouth, and I'm thinking about the implications while watching the body language and tone in which the sentence is delivered - instead of wondering what on earth that person just said, as can happen with broad regional accents, or mumbled delivery, or background noise - and while this may in part be becoming exacerbated by age-related hearing loss, I've always preferred to turn subtitles on when the subject material is complex or the words aren't 100% crystal clear (and BBC and ITV drama productions tend to do well in this regard - there it's not so confounding).

It's very un-fun to have to stop and rewind film footage to work out the words, or to try to sit there with a lyric sheet splitting one's attention between a piece of paper and a screen, or to get the impression that you have to study up before you watch a concert, just to catch the words.  It's a problem with some genres more than others, some singers more than others, some songs more than others, some listeners and their brain construction and the importance of lyrics to them more than others.  Anyway, with the lyrics already available in written form, it would be a simple thing to add optional subtitles to concert footage.

So I sit there getting frustrated, and Brett says after a while he just gives up, and just focuses on the music, and they might as well be singing in Swahili, and more's the pity because he'd quite like to know what is actually being said in the material we're less familiar with.  So yeah, optional subtitles would be excellent...


I've work to do and will add to this when I get some time / when we watch the second half etc. ;)

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