i was just looking around www.cure-concerts.de and came across these songs:
you're so happy! unreleased song from 'Bloodflowers' recording -
heavy world unreleased song from 'Bloodflowers' recording -
everything forever unreleased song from 'Bloodflowers' recording -
anyone have any info or better yet, copies to share?
i've heard a version of You're So Happy but apparently this wasn't done by the cure??
J
hey buddy, i haven't heard these songs but i have heard a song called 'spilt milk' from the bloodflowers sessions. i was a really cool song, but i don't have a copy :( i heard it on a friends computer years ago. i hope that all of these tracks are on the deluxe edition when it finally comes out.
I've never heard of these songs... but my interest is piqued. I hope someone has them...
Quote from: splitmilk34 on February 15, 2008, 20:17:57
I've never heard of these songs... but my interest is piqued. I hope someone has them...
see if this works
http://www.crwebsites.com/cure/audio.html
do not unzip the file, just rename it as a mp3.
Never heard of any of those songs either. But the words for "You're So Happy!" used to be on The Cure's site.
"YOU'RE SO HAPPY (YOU COULD KILL ME!)
SO YOU DON'T CARE ABOUT THE BEAUTIFUL PEOPLE
BUT YOU'LL TRY ONE JUST THE SAME
yeah I KNOW YOU CAN LOVE IT OR LEAVE IT
YOU'RE JUST PLAYING A GAME...
AGAIN
oh YOU DON'T CARE ABOUT THE FAMOUSLY STUPID
BUT YOU'LL LIVE IT FOR A WHILE
oh I KNOW YOU'RE ONLY DOING THAT IRONY THING
WHEN YOU SMILE BUT DON'T SMILE...
YOU DON'T CARE ABOUT WHAT ANYONE ELSE IS
DON'T CARE WHAT THEY DO OR THEY SAY
YOU LIVE YOUR OWN LIFE IN YOUR OWN TIME
AND IN YOUR OWN DEAD INDIFFERENT WAY
yeah... in your own time...
NO YOU DON'T CARE ABOUT THE FABULOUS IN THINGS
BUT YOU'LL BE ONE JUST IN CASE
yeah I KNOW YOU CAN TAKE IT OR LEAVE IT
YOU'RE JUST HAVING A TASTE...
DON'T GIVE A f*ck ABOUT WHAT ANYONE ELSE IS
DON'T GIVE A f*ck WHAT THEY DO OR THEY SAY
yeah YOU ARE AS YOU FEEL IN YOUR OWN TIME
AND IN YOUR OWN DEAD INDIFFERENT WAY
AND YOU WILL SWEAR ON ANY LIFE BUT YOUR OWN
THAT YOU'RE HAPPY! HAPPY HOW IT ALL IS...
AT LEAST IT'S THE WAY THAT YOU THINK I SHOULD THINK
THAT YOU THINK ABOUT ANY OF THIS
ABOUT ANY OF THIS... yeah... and it's so much more than you ever need...
AND YOU WILL SWEAR ON ANY LIE BUT YOUR OWN
THAT YOU'RE HAPPY! HAPPY HOW IT ALL IS...
AT LEAST IT'S THE WAY THAT YOU THINK I SHOULD THINK
THAT YOU THINK ABOUT ANY OF THIS...
YOU'RE SO... HAPPY yeah!
YOU'RE SO... HAPPY yeah!
YOU'RE SO... HAPPY yeah!
YOU'RE SO... HAPPY yeah!
SO HAPPY... YOU COULD KILL ME!"
Perhaps it's a song that will show up on the new album or as a b-side.
From memory the rumor was that both Spilt Milk and You're So Happy were available as downloads from thecure.com when bloodflowers war realesed..i've got a version of YSH that's apparently from a tribute album \. the album name or performer name has something to do with "Pink Pig" not sure about all that though...
Quote from: nausearockpig on February 16, 2008, 08:11:12
From memory the rumor was that both Spilt Milk and You're So Happy were available as downloads from thecure.com when bloodflowers war realesed..i've got a version of YSH that's apparently from a tribute album \. the album name or performer name has something to do with "Pink Pig" not sure about all that though...
The "Pink Pig" project was just some idea some guy had. I guess he wanted Cure fans to cover every single song the band ever recorded. So he asked folks on the internet to pick a song and make a recording of it. (Think the end result was a 6 disc set!)
If I'm not mistaken "Pink Pig 2" was/is in the works to cover the songs recorded after the first one.
Official PP site: http://www.pinkpig.com.ar/homeen.html
PP Myspace: http://www.myspace.com/pinkpigproject
I don't know of many but I have Spilt Milk and Coming Up downloaded. How many unreleased tracks from Bloodflowers are there?
BF has 9 tracks. the Australian and Japanese versions have Coming Up as an extra track as number six I think.. Spilt Milk is def not an album track..
Spilt Milk was available as an official download when you bought your copy of Bloodflowers from a certain webshop, I forgot which one.
Heavy World, Everything Forever and You're So Happy have never been available in any form. You might want to check out the "Lost Flowers" demos, though. Five of them were unkown songs at the time they surfaced. One of those turned out to be "Just Say Yes", so that leaves four still untitled tracks.
interesting theory Oso Blanco.. i wonder if we'll get the chance to test that out when the remaster of BF hits the shelves... if it's coming that is.... :?
Quote from: Oso Blanco on February 26, 2008, 11:41:23Heavy World, Everything Forever and You're So Happy have never been available in any form. You might want to check out the "Lost Flowers" demos, though. Five of them were unkown songs at the time they surfaced. One of those turned out to be "Just Say Yes", so that leaves four still untitled tracks.
Yes, and of course "Possession" was released on Join the Dots.
I'd imagine that some of the "Lost Flowers" demos correlate to Heavy World or Everything Forever, but I have no proof of this. And even if they were, they're surely not the finished versions.
Actually, I named myself after Lost Flower 4 (or Lost Flower 3, depending on how you count those demo tracks after "Just Say Yes" became known) â€" so maybe I'll have to update my name if I ever realize what it really stands for. :lol:
Possession was a big disappointment, though. It was nothing like the "Lost Flowers", which I consider to be much superior to the final product "Bloodflowers". I wish they would release all their studio demos as full length CDs ... they are much more fun than the polished-to-death album versions.
If I could have a bet on which song is "You're So Happy", I'd say it's Lost Flower 3 ... because it sounds so happy, I could kill you! It's a great instrumental, anyway.
hi i have just say yes, heavy world and everything forever, if you don't bealive me check out my space in youtube.com and write RAMSUA...and enjoy them..bye...
Spilt milk is an awesome track, one of their best. awhile ago Ching Chang Chong surfaced too, which is an early version of Spilt Milk (not sure if it is one of the Lost Flowers)
I thought I remebered that at the time, there wer actually 10 or 12 Lost Flowers tracks, and that some have been impossible to find. Anybody recallt his more accurately than I can?
Erik
Quote from: Ramsua on April 08, 2008, 20:21:48
hi i have just say yes, heavy world and everything forever, if you don't bealive me check out my space in youtube.com and write RAMSUA...and enjoy them..bye...
any chance you can share these in another way? ie not thru youtube?
Quote from: Ramsua on April 08, 2008, 20:21:48
hi i have just say yes, heavy world and everything forever, if you don't bealive me check out my space in youtube.com and write RAMSUA...and enjoy them..bye...
Are you sure you're not just making this stuff up?
These are the exact same tracks that can be found on the common Bloodflowers Demos bootlegs going around.
Accoring to your YouTube videos:
Lost Flower 3 = Heavy World
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFlUpKG3_gY
Lost Flower 4 = Everything Forever
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l3xpHD6zg4c
By the way, your alleged Heavy World has always sounded like an alternate version of Just Say Yes to me.
Can you tell us how you know the names? Because honestly, these songs are nothing rare at all and can be found in much better quality than what your videos have. I've even shared them on this forum at one time...
If I could ever find any real proof, I might have good reason to change my username to "everything forever". :D
(absolutely love this song)
thanks caley for taking the time out to compare these tracks to the Lost Flowers..
Is it just me, or does Everything Forever sound an awful lot like To Wish Impossible Things speeded up?....Perhaps that's the point.
I haven't heard about any "Lost Flowers" before. Could the remixes of Out of This World and Maybe Someday (from Join The Dots) be among them, or are they all original songs? I suppose Signal To Noise isn't one of them, since it was released in 2001, but I may be wrong.
By the way, this guy claims to have the "Lost Flowers", in case someone hasn't found them yet:
http://curefans.com/index.php/topic,944.0/topicseen.html
Quote from: Poe on April 12, 2008, 13:41:59
Is it just me, or does Everything Forever sound an awful lot like To Wish Impossible
if you mean 'everything forever' on that youtube video posted there, it's not certain is that's 'everything forever'. read lostflower4's post a few posts up.
these "common" bloodflower demos are nothing rare. these have been shared many times, both here and elsewhere. just do a search with lost + flowers + demos and you should notice.
if anyone offers these in a trade (in mp3s) and says they are something unique, they are not. very common.
it's just tracks tracks 'heavy world', 'everything forever' and 'you're so happy' are supposed to be tracks that have not been shared before.
Quote from: japanesebaby on April 12, 2008, 15:05:12
if you mean 'everything forever' on that youtube video posted there, it's not certain is that's 'everything forever'. read lostflower4's post a few posts up.
I had read that one, but that point must have been lost on me somehow. :roll:
Okay, I guess I've misunderstood one or two things in the posts above. In the thread I linked to, the guy just said he had the Lost Flowers songs, no particular names mentioned, but all these Lost Flowers songs are very common, and the three ones you mentioned have nothing to do with them...is that it? Or am I still being a Swedish blonde here? Patience, patience...
Quote from: Poe on April 12, 2008, 17:13:40
Quote from: japanesebaby on April 12, 2008, 15:05:12
if you mean 'everything forever' on that youtube video posted there, it's not certain is that's 'everything forever'. read lostflower4's post a few posts up.
I had read that one, but that point must have been lost on me somehow. :roll:
Okay, I guess I've misunderstood one or two things in the posts above. In the thread I linked to, the guy just said he had the Lost Flowers songs, no particular names mentioned, but all these Lost Flowers songs are very common, and the three ones you mentioned have nothing to do with them...is that it? Or am I still being a Swedish blonde here? Patience, patience...
Here is one of the bootlegs these were released on.
http://bootlegs.host.sk/reviews/lostflowers.htm
Now, some releases listed Lost Flowers 1-5 because "Just Say Yes" wasn't identified until 2001 (these demos are from 1999).
So in other bootleg releases, Just Say Yes is sometimes called Lost Flower 1, and all the others are therefore one number higher than on this particular release.
In this case, Just Say Yes refers to the slow, electric instrumental version. There is another more acoustic and upbeat version labeled as Lost Flower 2 on this boot (or Lost Flower 3 on other releases ;)) This is the one that Ramsua claims is "Heavy World". Well, I haven't seen any real proof to back up this claim.
And no, these tracks aren't anything that appeared on Join the Dots. They are all instrumental versions, and generally more electric guitar driven that what the actual Bloodflowers album turned out to be. I personally think it's some really incredible stuff. :smth020
Yes, those demos sound much better than the final product known as "Bloodflowers".
By the way, back then when the "Lost Flowers" surfaced, someone claimed he once had a tape with 15 (!) tracks on it, but he could only put 12 of them on a CR-R. According to him, this CD-R is the source for the MP3s that are floating around the internet. Nobody knows if this story is true and nobody has ever heard the missing three tracks. I guess it will remain an unsolved mystery.
Quote from: Brother Tims on April 13, 2008, 09:00:49
Yes, those demos sound much better than the final product known as "Bloodflowers".
By the way, back then when the "Lost Flowers" surfaced, someone claimed he once had a tape with 15 (!) tracks on it, but he could only put 12 of them on a CR-R. According to him, this CD-R is the source for the MP3s that are floating around the internet. Nobody knows if this story is true and nobody has ever heard the missing three tracks. I guess it will remain an unsolved mystery.
Yep, this was always the story about them. However, the 12 songs that we know only total about 60 minutes, so I've always had doubts about the story that they wouldn't all fit. Maybe there was another reason.
By the way, I've never been able to find these songs in a lossless source. Even all the bootleg CDs (the ones I know) are mp3 sourced. I originally got these tracks on a P2P network sometime around 2002, and I've really been able to find a better source. Perhaps this is the only way they were distributed on a large scale?
The Lost Flowers have never been available in lossless form, and I think we should be happy that those demos have surfaced at all in such a high quality.
How greedy we have become ... 15 years ago we would have killed for MP3 quality demos, but now everything has to be lossless. Even audience recordings! It's a mad, mad world.
Quote from: Brother Tims on April 13, 2008, 21:27:45
How greedy we have become ... 15 years ago we would have killed for MP3 quality demos, but now everything has to be lossless. Even audience recordings! It's a mad, mad world.
hmm. surely it isn't greedy to ask the question (whether lossless version exists)? or greedy to appreciate quality? yesterday i was just listening to audience recordings recently shared here in both 24-bit and 16-bit versions and i can hear a clear quality difference between the two - so things like this does affect your level of enjoyment. also, i've two different copies for lost flowers in mp3s, from different sources. the other one sounds ok (because it's obviously the "original" file set), the other one sounds like crap and is artifacted as hell (because it's clearly been re-compressed several times to and fro). so... :?
i'd agree it's a mad world, yes, but for the opposite reasons. just watch youtube (paying attention to how stuff really looks like there, quality wise) and you'll know. ;)
and 15 years ago was 15 years ago. back then mp3s were something that was thought to be new and cool - because hardly nobody realized the cost of quality yet, unfortunately.
imo it would be pretty unnatural and pretty awful if things hadn't changed at all since those days.
ps. and let me add that nobody said we weren't happy that these surfaced at all.
Ok, so we all know the 9 songs from Bloodflowers, as well as 'spilt milk', 'possession', 'coming up'.
the Bloodflowers demos I know are:
out of this world
watching me fall
where the birds always sing
ther is no if
the loudest song
39
+ spilt mix
+ just say yes
+lost flower1
+lost flower2
+lost flower3
+lost flower4
Where are 'maybe someday', 'the last day of summer', and 'bloodflowers'? Somebody have them?
We also know songs title 'heavy world', 'you're so happy', and 'everything forever'. which one is lost flower 1, 2, and 3, and what is the song title to 4?