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The Cure => Music and Lyrics => Topic started by: Purple Orchid on July 12, 2006, 22:43:01

Title: FOREVER
Post by: Purple Orchid on July 12, 2006, 22:43:01
Apparently there is a topic on this below, but I'd like to hear which are your favorite versions of this one, and maybe a little comment on them.
I was assembling a CD with all my versions (a tedious task towards the end) and have found some great ones!
I also found that in 1982, they didn't always play All Mine, but sometines Forever as well (I though it was only All Mine in '82)
Like for example the version from 05 June 1982 Palais D'Hiver  Lyon, France. They start with Forever and after a quiet section they go to All Mine.
Another strange one is August 05 1983, New York, the chords are not Forever nor All Mine! unfortunately, it is cut in the middle.
The Mansfield '89 version with Shellyan Orphan is good because of the singer and because of the violin, but the structure isn't really too interesting.
The one from September 29 1985 Queens Hall, Leeds (England) is really great! The entrance of the drums is a quite unusual and the sax is crazy here!
And I hadn't listened in a long time to the one from 08 August 1996 Salt Lake City, Utah. The transition from a Forest is great! And Jason does a few unusual things.
And I?m very fond of the version from Toronto 2004, the quiet section is great!
I'd like to hear your comments on this!
Title: FOREVER
Post by: chucky30 on July 13, 2006, 18:15:19
Hi,

I'm also collecting all great versions of ''Forever'' and ''All mine''. Did you the one the played at Hamburg 2002?? It has incredible power, especially when Robert sings ''Turn around!!!, Turn around!!!''. I have been looking for ages to  get the complete ''Forever'' from Lille 1981, which was one of the best versions too. Unfortunatly, I still have the cut version (about 7 min. only).
Title: FOREVER
Post by: Purple Orchid on July 17, 2006, 17:50:25
Yeah! Hamburg 2002 is great! And one of the few with great sound quality!
Title: FOREVER
Post by: chucky30 on July 18, 2006, 22:44:23
I still believe the 1982 versions of ''Forever'' or ''All mine'' were the best you can find.
Title: FOREVER
Post by: lostflower4 on July 19, 2006, 00:40:34
Quote from: chucky30I still believe the 1982 versions of ''Forever'' or ''All mine'' were the best you can find.

I think '82 is great, but it wasn't really Forever. If you compare it musically, there's a big difference, besides the few exceptions that Purple Orchid pointed out.

I don't think I can give a fair answer to this. There's so much stuff I still haven't heard...
Title: Re: FOREVER
Post by: chucky30 on July 19, 2006, 00:48:21
Quote from: Purple Orchid
I also found that in 1982, they didn't always play All Mine, but sometines Forever as well (I though it was only All Mine in '82)
Like for example the version from 05 June 1982 Palais D'Hiver  Lyon, France. They start with Forever and after a quiet section they go to All Mine.

You are wrong Lost. In 1982, they have played at different occasions an improvisation that resembles a lot to ''Forever'' (like on June 5, at Palais d'hiver de Lyon). During this show, it was the first time that we could hear chords sequences that became the famous ''All mine''. So ''Forever'' has been played a few times during this tour.
Title: FOREVER
Post by: Curetastraphy on July 19, 2006, 00:51:52
They also Played Forever on May 27 82 in Strasbourg. Who knows if they went into All mine though
Title: Re: FOREVER
Post by: lostflower4 on July 19, 2006, 01:52:21
Quote from: chucky30
You are wrong Lost. In 1982, they have played at different occasions an improvisation that resembles a lot to ''Forever'' (like on June 5, at Palais d'hiver de Lyon). During this show, it was the first time that we could hear chords sequences that became the famous ''All mine''. So ''Forever'' has been played a few times during this tour.

Which is exactly why I said:

If you compare it musically, there's a big difference, besides the few exceptions that Purple Orchid pointed out.

8)
Title: FOREVER
Post by: gioez on July 19, 2006, 09:59:16
About "All mine" and "Forever" he's Robert Smith that said "I don't know how these songs had growed, I was so drunk all nights..." or something like that.

The version performed in Paris in 1982 is so different of many others... but I think that all versions have an unique history. It's possible write a book of thousands of pages about this "song"...  :D
Title: FOREVER
Post by: Yves28 on July 19, 2006, 15:16:03
Oh speaking about All Mine from Paris 1982 (what a great version !), did anyone noticed that a part of the bass line played, rather at the end of the song, at about 8 or 9 min sounds like the bass line of Icing Sugar ?

... or maybe I'm wrong ...
Title: FOREVER
Post by: Purple Orchid on July 19, 2006, 19:13:40
OK, from my 23 shows from '82 I found Forever  also on:
April 18 1982 Top Rank Skating Bowl Plymouth England
April 23 Phonix Hall, Sheffield (England) (incomplete unfortunately)
and
May 27 1982 Tivoli Hall, Strasbourg, France (also incomplete)
I have to check 5 more shows only.

The version from May 06 1982 Theatre Carr?, Amsterdam (Netherlands) is rare, because along with The Cure Are Dead, it's not Forever nor All Mine!
(I'll check All Mine from Paris)
Title: FOREVER
Post by: Purple Orchid on July 28, 2006, 16:27:28
So, as I was saying , I am assembling this audio CD of my favorite versions of Forever, but the wonderful version of August 8th Delta Center Salt Lake City 1996 I have it at 112kbps and doesn't sound well transferred to audio. Does anyone have this one at a higher bitrate and share it? Many thanks beforehand!
Title: FOREVER
Post by: lostflower4 on July 28, 2006, 21:31:46
In FLAC (http://ftp.imaginary-lemurs.com/cure1996-08-08d3t06.flac) :-)
Title: FOREVER
Post by: Descent on July 31, 2006, 01:12:18
They also played Forever in Bourges 1982.  :wink:

Lots of versions of the song are great.
Den Bosch 1984 is one of my favorite ones. It sounds tense.  :-D
Title: FOREVER
Post by: Inshiver on July 31, 2006, 14:16:15
Quote from: Descent
Den Bosch 1984 is one of my favorite ones. It sounds tense.  :-D

I didn't hear all the forever versions... but from all that I've heard is this one the best!!! It's very --> :twisted:
Title: FOREVER
Post by: Purple Orchid on July 31, 2006, 18:18:10
Many many thanks Caley! Excellent! You're so kind!
Title: Re: FOREVER
Post by: delma on August 20, 2006, 17:26:55
the 1982 versions are the best...Paris above all and then Edinbourgh,Glasgow,Amsterdam,Lyon...
from the 1981 versions I think Lille is great and one version from June 81 I don't remember when...I think it was during a german concert
I like also the 'Happy Birthday' 1980 version and Venendaal and Sydney from the same year
I don't like so much the 84 versions...Paris is good and also Melbourne...
85 versions of 'Forever' are horrible I think...I think during the 'swing tour' they played some very good versions I remember Turin a very intense 'piece'...
Title: Re: FOREVER
Post by: temptation-cure on September 22, 2006, 23:23:23
WOOW! FOREVER IT' WOULD BE FOREVER GREAT I THINK !!HHEE
WELL I FIND A GREAT VERSION THIS ONE FROM OLYMPIA 82 THAT VERSION CALLED ""ALL I HAVE TO DO IS KILL HER""  WITH THIS GREAT SOUND AND ROBERT'S VOICE AND FINALLY OF THIS SONG ROBERT SCREAMS: THEY USE TO LOVE .....UNTIL FADING! AWESOME :shock:
Title: Re: FOREVER
Post by: Joe on September 28, 2006, 22:42:52
I was wondering what happened to that site.
Title: Re: FOREVER
Post by: MeltingMan on April 18, 2014, 12:20:46
The version on "Faith de luxe" is incredible good.Well selected,Robert. :)
Title: Re: FOREVER
Post by: Ulrich on April 19, 2014, 10:14:35
I just wish I could hear this song the way I heard it live in Dresden (summer 1998), a brilliant 10minute+ version! If anyone finds a bootleg from around that time or from that show, let me know please.