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Title: The Biggest News
Post by: mintcure on October 06, 2006, 11:20:47
Hello friends. The information below is official, from Universal. Not a rumor.

"Hello everyone â€" We have a new DVD from THE CURE that will be ready for release on DEC 5th in the U.S. and we are shooting to make a Nov 20 date for INTL release!

This is all the information I have so far, but we will send more as it becomes available â€" including a final track list.

SONGS FROM 9 SHOWS…A LOAD OF CURE FANS WITH MINI DV CAMERAS CUT TOGETHER WITH THE 'BIG SCREEN' FOOTAGE OF THE NIGHT!

A MUST HAVE FOR CURE FANS…A GREAT HOLIDAY GIFT

In 2005 a nascent Cure trio of Robert Smith, Simon Gallup and Jason Cooper celebrated the return of former guitarist Porl Thompson with a series of nine eclectic headline festival shows across Europe (SPAIN / BELGIUM / FRANCE / GERMANY / SWITZERLAND / SICILY / HUNGARY / GREECE / TURKEY). The quartet’s unique blend of passion and power proved to be a thrilling combination, and the summer set a new benchmark for Cure live highs.

Festival 2005 presents a selection of these performances captured by a mix of fans, crew and ‘on-the-night-big-screen cameras’.

Edited by Daren Butler and mixed by Keith Uddin in collaboration with Robert Smith, this 30 song DVD is a wonderful reminder of how and why The Cure remain one of the most vibrant bands on the planet. "

more will come soon
Title: Re: The Biggest News
Post by: boneheadhaggar on October 06, 2006, 11:31:48
excellent news, an early Christmas pressie for us all :-D :rocker
Title: Re: The Biggest News
Post by: cult_hero on October 06, 2006, 12:19:17
and why don't they just release a dvd with good shows?  :smth011  i think (if this will ever happen) this is the first cure item for years i won't buy. :evil:

okay, i moated enough...  ;)
Title: Re: The Biggest News
Post by: monghi on October 06, 2006, 16:06:58
what a beautiful day today!!! i´m so happy... can´t wait...
Title: Re: The Biggest News
Post by: lostflower4 on October 06, 2006, 19:03:49
Sounds really effin' great. :-D

:rocker
Title: Re: The Biggest News
Post by: japanesebaby on October 06, 2006, 20:56:15

yes! i'm happy about every pro-shot cure dvd they choose to put out!  :smth001
and hopefully there's something nice from the show i saw...
:rocker
Title: Re: The Biggest News
Post by: cult_hero on October 07, 2006, 08:40:52
Quote from: japanesebaby on October 06, 2006, 20:56:15

yes! i'm happy about every pro-shot cure dvd they choose to put out!  :smth001

this sounds a little bit... hm...? undemanding?  ;)
Title: Re: The Biggest News
Post by: lostflower4 on October 07, 2006, 09:28:24
Quote from: cult_hero on October 07, 2006, 08:40:52
this sounds a little bit... hm...? undemanding?  ;)

You're right... After the the horrible mixing job on Trilogy, perhaps we should be a bit more demanding. :twisted:
Title: Re: The Biggest News
Post by: cult_hero on October 07, 2006, 09:54:18
Quote from: lostflower4 on October 07, 2006, 09:28:24
Quote from: cult_hero on October 07, 2006, 08:40:52
this sounds a little bit... hm...? undemanding?  ;)

You're right... After the the horrible mixing job on Trilogy, perhaps we should be a bit more demanding. :twisted:

hm? i like trilogy very much... okay, a little bit less cuts would have been better - looks like mtv.

i cannot understand why robert will release a dvd with this 2005 hash and everyone except me is happy about it??? the guy who is responsible for the sound mix has a lot of work to do...  :twisted: - have you already seen/heard route du rock? i gave this show a try and heard it twice but i still don't like it. i thought i would get ear bleeding!  :smth011

anyway! i have to accept it. the cure live is history for me. thanks robert for wrecking the band! :x even though i'm still a little bit curious about new stuff although i don't expect much.

and now it's really time for me to shut up - i don't want become unpopular here...  ;)
Title: Re: The Biggest News
Post by: Cure on October 07, 2006, 09:57:17
i don't think it would b a gr8 dvd as well
but i'm only gonna buy it cuz i want 2 c what stuff from greece they'll have cuz i was straight above robert!

anyways
can't wait 4 it as well ;)
Title: Re: The Biggest News
Post by: lostflower4 on October 07, 2006, 09:58:53
Quote from: cult_hero on October 07, 2006, 09:54:18hm? i like trilogy very much... okay, a little bit less cuts would have been better - looks like mtv.

I'm talking about the sound of Trilogy. Robert's Bass VI is way to low in the mix (kind of an important instrument for these songs!), the vocals are too loud, the bass is thin...

The video part is fine to me, but for the above reasons I can barely stand watching it. Heck, the audience recordings of these shows sound better in many respects.

Piss poor production, that's what it is to me. I find it hard to believe Robert was really involved in it. :oops:
Title: Re: The Biggest News
Post by: cult_hero on October 07, 2006, 10:06:11
hm... i have no problems with the sound. sounds muuuuch better than... okay, not again!  ;) enjoy the new stuff i'll stay in the past.

and now i'll go shopping!
Title: Re: The Biggest News
Post by: japanesebaby on October 07, 2006, 10:26:31
Quote from: cult_hero on October 07, 2006, 08:40:52
Quote from: japanesebaby on October 06, 2006, 20:56:15

yes! i'm happy about every pro-shot cure dvd they choose to put out!  :smth001

this sounds a little bit... hm...? undemanding?  ;)

hey please read it again: i didn't say it's superb / it's great / it's wonderful etc.
i just said i'm happy when my favorite band chooses to put out SOMETHING on dvd - because they surely have put out too little what comes to dvds.
yes, i'd rather see a prayer tour dvd.
yes, i'd rather see  a good WMS dvd.
but maybe not a dream tour dvd if i got to choose - and hmm, i suppose a dream tour dvd might be 'undemanding' for me, if i had to try and think how and where to use the same expression...

anyway, i'm well aware of the faults in production etc. that you're talking about there. and i don't think trilogy was superb what comes to sound production. etc etc.
i was simply saying i'm happy that the cure is putting out something on dvd - hopefully it's as good as it can be.
and hopefully it'll make the band interested in putting out something else too, some older shows on dvds (if footage might exist).

(sorry that i was happy about these news!)
Title: Re: The Biggest News
Post by: cult_hero on October 07, 2006, 11:11:26
Quote from: japanesebaby on October 07, 2006, 10:26:31
Quote from: cult_hero on October 07, 2006, 08:40:52
Quote from: japanesebaby on October 06, 2006, 20:56:15

yes! i'm happy about every pro-shot cure dvd they choose to put out!  :smth001

this sounds a little bit... hm...? undemanding?  ;)

hey please read it again: i didn't say it's superb / it's great / it's wonderful etc.
i just said i'm happy when my favorite band chooses to put out SOMETHING on dvd - because they surely have put out too little what comes to dvds.
yes, i'd rather see a prayer tour dvd.
yes, i'd rather see  a good WMS dvd.
but maybe not a dream tour dvd if i got to choose - and hmm, i suppose a dream tour dvd might be 'undemanding' for me, if i had to try and think how and where to use the same expression...

anyway, i'm well aware of the faults in production etc. that you're talking about there. and i don't think trilogy was superb what comes to sound production. etc etc.
i was simply saying i'm happy that the cure is putting out something on dvd - hopefully it's as good as it can be.
and hopefully it'll make the band interested in putting out something else too, some older shows on dvds (if footage might exist).

(sorry that i was happy about these news!)


don't get me wrong: it's okay when you are happy but it sounded undemanding to me. i'm also happy if they release something on dvd but i also think that so many other recordings from other years exist so why this poor/weak stuff from last year??? the times where i take everything just because it's from the cure are over.

enjoy the dvd...  :smth001
Title: Re: The Biggest News
Post by: [labyrinth] on October 07, 2006, 11:40:17
Quote from: cult_hero on October 07, 2006, 11:11:26
i also think that so many other recordings from other years exist so why this poor/weak stuff from last year???

just because they believe in what they're doing...
and find the new stuff better for the release at the moment....
just give them our trust...and we'll see..

about the old stuff...well, it's beautiful and i really think it'll find its way for a release...but later... i think!
Title: Re: The Biggest News
Post by: Lady on October 07, 2006, 15:08:05
Oh, what a wonderful gift for Christmas!!! :D

Bello bello bello!!!!!! :-D :-D :-D
Title: Re: The Biggest News
Post by: Oso Blanco on October 07, 2006, 15:37:24
Quote from: lostflower4 on October 07, 2006, 09:58:53
Piss poor production, that's what it is to me. I find it hard to believe Robert was really involved in it. :oops:

Considering that we are talking about the same guy who messed up Join The Dots and the Deluxe Editions, it's not THAT hard to believe.

RS has either gone out of his mind or he lost his hearing abilities.
Title: Re: The Biggest News
Post by: cult_hero on October 07, 2006, 15:59:02
Quote from: Oso Blanco on October 07, 2006, 15:37:24
RS has either gone out of his mind or he lost his hearing abilities.

maybe that would explain the shows last year and decision to make a dvd of them...  :-D ;)
Title: Re: The Biggest News
Post by: Oso Blanco on October 07, 2006, 16:10:33
Quote from: cult_hero on October 07, 2006, 15:59:02
Quote from: Oso Blanco on October 07, 2006, 15:37:24
RS has either gone out of his mind or he lost his hearing abilities.

maybe that would explain the shows last year and decision to make a dvd of them...  :-D ;)

Hehehe ... probably!

But seriously, there must be some reason behind all of this. First time I noticed was the radion broadcast of the 2002 Hamburg show. RS himself did the mix, and it just didn't sound right. Trilogy was just as bad.

And how on earth is it possible that World War and Charlotte Sometimes sound so bad in their "remastered" versions? And the distortions on Breathe and A Chain Of Flowers? I don't even want to get started on all the cut intros on various remastered tracks. This man used to be a perfectionist, so there MUST be something wrong with him. Though, the big question is why didn't anyone tell him? Maybe Roger did and that's why he was fired. Who knows.
Title: Re: The Biggest News
Post by: japanesebaby on October 07, 2006, 16:14:07
Quote from: cult_hero on October 07, 2006, 15:59:02
maybe that would explain the shows last year and decision to make a dvd of them...  :-D ;)

oh yes, RS is so... hmmm, undemanding these days, isn't he?

a shame...
Title: Re: The Biggest News
Post by: [labyrinth] on October 07, 2006, 16:35:10
 :smth011 :smth011 :smth076 :smth076
Title: Re: The Biggest News
Post by: cult_hero on October 07, 2006, 17:15:47
Quote from: japanesebaby on October 07, 2006, 16:14:07
Quote from: cult_hero on October 07, 2006, 15:59:02
maybe that would explain the shows last year and decision to make a dvd of them...  :-D ;)

oh yes, RS is so... hmmm, undemanding these days, isn't he?

a shame...

yes! finally you've got it!!!  ;)  :-D
Title: Re: The Biggest News
Post by: japanesebaby on October 07, 2006, 17:22:49
Quote from: cult_hero on October 07, 2006, 17:15:47
Quote from: japanesebaby on October 07, 2006, 16:14:07
Quote from: cult_hero on October 07, 2006, 15:59:02
maybe that would explain the shows last year and decision to make a dvd of them...  :-D ;)

oh yes, RS is so... hmmm, undemanding these days, isn't he?

a shame...

yes! finally you've got it!!!  ;)  :-D


no i think it rather looks like you didn't quite get it...  :roll:  ;)
Title: Re: The Biggest News
Post by: [labyrinth] on October 07, 2006, 17:33:38
that..was..just..sarcastic..

and i have to agree with japanesebaby!
Title: Re: The Biggest News
Post by: cult_hero on October 07, 2006, 17:58:41
Quote from: [labyrinth] on October 07, 2006, 17:33:38
that..was..just..sarcastic..


yeah, and my statement was complete serious!  :roll:

anyway! spend your money and enjoy the dvd...
Title: Re: The Biggest News
Post by: [labyrinth] on October 07, 2006, 19:08:36
i will ;)
thanks... :rocker

*peace*  :-D
---------------------
however i'm not saying this will be the ultimate video, the perfect video of the cure... i just say i'll accept it as it is...and if i like it i'll watch it a lot of times..if no, at least i give them a chance for this change...
that's all...
for me is useless talking as "this will suck" "this will be beautiful" and things like these...
we're just happy for a new release ;)
Title: Re: The Biggest News
Post by: japanesebaby on October 07, 2006, 19:29:09
Quote from: cult_hero on October 07, 2006, 17:58:41
anyway! spend your money and enjoy the dvd...
exactly: some will spend their money, some won't. i suppose everyone's happy that way - so no big deal(?).

i just couldn't see why anyone should feel like instantly selling out and/or being a slightly uncritical dummy here, just by trying to take a positive attitude towards the upcoming release. after all, we don't even have the item in our hands just yet so why not  wait until the jury decides... and in any case, i know that none of my personal demands/wishes will ever make any difference to what gets released or what doesn't, so personally i'd rather not choose to **** and moan about it but try to think positive and enjoy what was coming up. that's all.
(but i suppose if any of us were in RS's shoes i guess we just wouldn't give a damn sometimes about what any others might demand from us... ;) )

Quote from: [labyrinth] on October 07, 2006, 19:08:36
*peace*  :-D
yep.  :smth001
Title: Re: The Biggest News
Post by: [labyrinth] on October 07, 2006, 19:37:12
i perfectly agree with you  ;)
Title: Re: The Biggest News
Post by: Oso Blanco on October 07, 2006, 20:06:03
Quote from: japanesebaby on October 07, 2006, 19:29:09
just by trying to take a positive attitude towards the upcoming release.

I have lost all my positive attitude towards any future Cure releases after they screwed us with all those messed up remasters. I have completely lost my faith in RS, so I'm extremely sceptical ...
Title: Re: The Biggest News
Post by: [labyrinth] on October 07, 2006, 21:12:23
well...i think Remasters are excellent !
it's just taste...
Title: Re: The Biggest News
Post by: Oso Blanco on October 07, 2006, 21:55:37
Quote from: [labyrinth] on October 07, 2006, 21:12:23
well...i think Remasters are excellent !
it's just taste...

No, it's not just taste. Apart from those awful audience recordings - which some strange people may even like - there are some big mistakes that are clearly NOT a matter of taste. Shitty sound quality (World War, Charlotte Sometimes), clipping distortions (Breathe, A Chain Of Flower), cut intros (The Weedy Burton, lots of tracks on JTD, Shake Dog Shake), the abscence of Killing An Arab ... all those things are the result of sloppy work, ignorance an non-respect to the fans. One could even consider it an insult.

If you are a fan, and you listen to the remasters closely ... can you look me straight in the eye, still telling me that they are excellent?
Title: Re: The Biggest News
Post by: dsanchez on October 08, 2006, 00:03:57
Hey Cult_Hero and JapaniseBabe...calm down...be happy...it's just a DVD..it's not the end of the world  :smth023

Cheers,

David.
Title: Re: The Biggest News
Post by: strange_day on October 08, 2006, 04:03:04
i dont think any of us are in a position to demand things from robert or the band, the fact that they are still going after nearly 30 years shows that they care about what they do, robert could have gone away with his millions way back in 1987 or '89 and never bothered with music again, but he didnt, its not their duty to serve you as consumers,if you dont like dont buy it, if you do then do buy it.
Title: Re: The Biggest News
Post by: gecko on October 08, 2006, 06:54:07
I am skeptical of this rumor.

1- Theres no advance sales sheet information anywhere online or at store chains
2- What fans taped this and when/how were they chosen?
3- Why isn't any of it available on servers already for sharing?

What fan or otherwise wouldn't just jack the camera and recording for themselves,
run home, and upload it for sharing/trading.

On the other hand, if it is all true, imagine the editing nightmare synching all these camera angles together and the dizzying effects of its outcome.

btw. daren butler is a writer (Cure - on Record), not a musician/sound mixer that I'm aware of anyway....
Title: Re: The Biggest News
Post by: [labyrinth] on October 08, 2006, 10:27:15
Quote from: Oso Blanco on October 07, 2006, 21:55:37
If you are a fan, and you listen to the remasters closely ... can you look me straight in the eye, still telling me that they are excellent?
yes, i can.
but maybe...am i not a fan like you....  :?
that's quite absurd...if you don't like those things..then, don't buy it... i found "JTD" perfect as it is.. and the Remasters (apart only from the live recordings) are so interesting...

and again...
we're talking about a thing not yet released, and we are already saying this will be s**t,that's a thing i wouldn't expect from a Cure fan..
sorry...
Title: Re: The Biggest News
Post by: Gweza on October 08, 2006, 10:42:15
I can't wait to see this 2005 DVD as I can't wait to see (again) Orange, Show, Tokyo, ... remastered on DVD (as promised by Robert ...) and with all there faults and goods ... Cure rules  :rocker
Title: Re: The Biggest News
Post by: cult_hero on October 08, 2006, 12:02:49
all i wanted to say about the first posting of japanesebaby was her sentence that sounded so undemanding. it sounded like a typical fan behaviour, like everything the master will do and release is okay. if you are all happy with this upcoming dvd it's okay for me. but i think it's also okay to say something negative. i used to have this behaviour in the past as well but this is definite over since 2004 (no write error, i really mean 2004).

unfortunately i've also made the experience that it's not very popular to say something negative about the band. there are just a few topics in which are negative comments are always welcome again and again (jason is plays bad, wms is bad...).

anyway! i'm tired of explaining myself here.

peace!
Title: Re: The Biggest News
Post by: [labyrinth] on October 08, 2006, 12:27:21
of course cult_hero is okay to say something negative...
the matter is, we have to wait for dvd to see and then we can say ..it's bad or not.. :)
and me, i don't like the 2004 (Album [but i love b-sides] + Tour) and that's really a bad period for The Cure in my opinion ...but then, i instead loved 2005 ...so i have no problem to say if a thing is bad or not...
as i was saying before...there are no A- Fan or B- Fan ...that's just taste...

anyway i didn't want to make such noise :)
so..come on.. peace :)

p.s.= i enjoy WMS (apart from 2/3 songs) ..it's weird  :-D
Title: Re: The Biggest News
Post by: cult_hero on October 08, 2006, 12:32:16
i also like wms very much...  :smth023

i know: we all don't know the dvd, how it will be and if it ever will be released (i have my doubts it will appear this year. come on, we all know robert!). i can just speak for me and you all know that i don't like what they've done last year but i'm sure if you like the 2005 stuff he will also like the new dvd. i don't understand this upcoming release cos there are for sure soooo many other recordings from the past. but i also know robert is happy with the current situation. that's why he will release stuff from the last year (and of course without roger and perry.  ;) ).
Title: Re: The Biggest News
Post by: strange_day on October 08, 2006, 20:16:24
i also think this dvd is roberts way of justifying the sacking of roger and perry, and sort of saying 'look, this is how i wanted us to sound', i dont think they really achieved it last year, whether it was the right decision or not, i will only make judgement when the new album comes out (if it ever does), because i thought the RAH show was much tighter than when they played last year. So who knows, it could work, its just waiting again i suppose.........
Title: Re: The Biggest News
Post by: [labyrinth] on October 08, 2006, 21:54:35
well..i would ask more why a mix of 9 shows ?
and not a single show as RAH (that was better for the quality than 2005 shows) ?

i would ask about this thing..

however , i'm really hoping this will find his way to release later in this year and not in the next year...

:)
Title: Re: The Biggest News
Post by: rodney on October 09, 2006, 14:17:04
Normally, when a band releases a DVD of a live show, they like for there to be at least 2 shows for them to choose the material from.  That way, if something messes up they can take the song from a different show.  The festival shows were all nearly identical sets with nearly identical stage set-ups.  So, if say, Robert loses his voice during The Blood, they can just pull it from a different appearance.

The only problem that I have with this current lineup is that it does limit the songs that they can perform.  Some, like Plainsong, simply don't work without keyboards.