The new album for MAY 2007 !!!
Info here (http://uk.news.launch.yahoo.com/dyna/article.html?a=/06122006/325/smith-seeks-cure-writers-block.html&e=l_news_dm)
Smith seeks cure for writers' block
(Wednesday December 06, 2006 00:43 AM)
COPENHAGEN (Reuters) - Thirty years in the music business is no prevention for writers' block.
That is the problem facing The Cure frontman Robert Smith, who is struggling to come up with lyrics to some of the 33 new songs the band has recorded for its 14th studio album.
The record's release has already been pushed back to May and the group goes on tour in March, so the pressure is on for the 47-year-old, who does not want to his legacy to be an ageing band that gradually fades into the background.
"I want them (the words) to mean something, it's not enough that they rhyme," Smith told Reuters in a recent interview. "I find myself stopping short and thinking I've done this before, and better.
"I've given myself a deadline to finish the words before Christmas. If I don't I should be shot," he said.
Smith founded The Cure in 1976 and made an early splash with tight three-minute post-punk songs like "Boys Don't Cry".
Adding keyboards and layered guitars, he developed a taste for epic arrangements and took the band to the top of the charts in the 1980s with dark albums of melancholic grandeur like "Kiss Me Kiss Me Kiss Me" and "Disintegration" that also contained snappy pop hits like "Just Like Heaven" and "Lovesong".
His confessional lyrics made it acceptable for male rock singers to express feelings of vulnerability, and opened the path to a plethora of "emo" bands like Thursday or minimalist 1980s revival bands like Interpol.
The new album is shaping up to be a mix of mournful songs alongside more energetic and upbeat cuts.
"I tend to favour this option, more in the style of the 'Kiss Me' album, with different things happening instead of being a mood piece," Smith said. "But the art of that is to get it to all hang together."
For the first time in more than two decades, the band has no keyboard player after Roger O'Donnell quit last year. Original Cure guitarist Porl Thompson -- married to Smith's younger sister -- has returned for a third stint in the band.
"There's no need for keyboards when you have Porl playing guitar," Smith said. "He can pretty much create any sound you want. He's brought back a sense of urgency and we've got a rock edge again."
Bassist Simon Gallup, in the band on-and-off since 1979, and Jason Cooper, on drums since 1995, round up the ensemble.
"Being a four-piece is getting back to a stripped-down stage look and sound," Smith said.
"The fact that we can turn out anywhere with very little equipment and play is the old idea of The Cure. It's less grand than things we've done in the past, but we're still planning to play for three hours."
DON'T CALL ME GOTH
Smith's dishevelled hair, thick eyeliner and smeared lipstick earned him a reputation as leader of the gloomy goth rock movement in the press, a type-casting he has long battled to little effect.
"It's so pitiful when 'goth' is still tagged onto the name The Cure," he said.
"We're not categorisable. I suppose we were post-punk when we came out, but in total it's impossible. How can you describe a band that put out an album like 'Pornography' and also 'Greatest Hits' where every single song was top 10 around the world? I just play Cure music, whatever that is."
The makeup is part of his performance ritual.
"Performing doesn't come that naturally to me even though I've done it for years," he said. "Perhaps not as badly applied and not as obvious, but for thousands of years people have worn makeup on stage."
Fans can get an early glimpse of the band's new look and sound on a DVD released this week. "Festival 2005" was recorded during nine shows in Europe last year and mixes professional camera work with amateur footage shot by fans.
"It was never planned," Smith said. "By the time we did the final show in Istanbul we had 13 cameras, but at the first show we only had one. It was directed by serendipity, and it was kind of thrown together."
The DVD features 30 songs, one for each of the years Smith has been performing with The Cure.
"I'm genuinely surprised at people's reaction when we play shows, it's hard to ignore it," he said. "It's gratifying to know that people still want The Cure to exist. We're an old band playing to a young audience."
As long as he can still command that audience and perform for three hours, Smith said he wouldn't retire.
"I'm aware that time is moving on," he said. "I don't want The Cure to fizzle out doing 45-minute shows of greatest hits. That would be awful for our legacy."
here we are again,though i fear this "writer's block" .........
let's hope for the best...
i trust RS
:)
Thanks for the article Tof. ;)
33 songs.. eh.
Quote from: Tof on December 06, 2006, 16:41:47
The new album for MAY 2007 !!!
cool!!!!!!!!!!!!! :D
me pone nerviosa es 2007.....
pero confÃo en robert...
asà q mucha fuerza no más!!
ansiosa de lo que viene!! :smth020
Im glad Robert's being quite self critcal about his words, if hes stopping short and thinking about it, it can only be a good thing, because he wants to put out the best record he can. So hopefully the new album will be great :D
this will album will surely ROCK! :)
think about this:
Porl is back (and he's the best guitarist The Cure, by far. Even Though Parry was not bad at all)
Robert seems to be more interested in his words
Simon is on Fire and his bass is incredibly STRONG!
Jason seems to be in form!
well....
let's hope for the best :)
Quote from: Tof on December 06, 2006, 16:41:47
"I find myself stopping short and thinking I've done this before, and better.
I THINK THIS IS THE MOST IMPORTANT NON MUSICAL THING ROBERT SAID IN LAST 16 YEARS!
if he only belived his own words...
:twisted:
however, May is very far !
WRITERS BLOCKAAAAAAAAAAAA
12/20/2006 6:13:05 AM - by CURE:ROBERT
AAAAAAAGH! THE ALBUM IS NOT DELAYED (OR EVEN "DELAYED AGAIN"? ****!) DUE TO ME HAVING THAT MOST MYSTERIOUS OF AILMENTS 'WRITERS BLOCK'...
IN THE COURSE OF THE REUTERS INTERVIEW I CONDUCTED RECENTLY I TALKED (IN PASSING) ABOUT THE OBVIOUS DIFFICULTIES OF REALIZING 33 NEW SETS OF LYRICS - EACH TIME I SET OUT ON AN ALBUM PROJECT MY STANDARDS, PARTICULARLY WITH REGARDS TO THE SONGWORDS, GO UP - I NEED TO BE HONEST AND PROUD, AS WELL AS (HOPEFULLY) ENTERTAINING ETC ETC ETC...
THESE OBSERVATIONS WERE THEN (PREDICTABLY) REDUCED TO THE OLD JOURNALISTIC CLICHE 'WRITERS BLOCK', DISSEMINATED, AND SEIZED ON BY THE LAZY AND THE BORED...
I LOVE THE CREATIVE PROCESS OF MAKING SONGS, AND THIS ALBUM IN PARTICULAR HAS BEEN A JOY - THE THRILL OF PLAYING IN A BAND THAT LOVES WHAT IT DOES IS SOMETHING I HAD ALMOST FORGOTTEN - SO THE NOTION OF 'GETTING IT OUT ON TIME' - WHATEVER THAT ACTUALLY MEANS - IS NOT MY PRIORITY...
THE END JUSTIFIES THE MEANS, AND THE TRUE TEST OF ART IS TIME, AND...
WELL ENOUGH - YOU GET WHAT I MEAN I HOPE?!!
THE NEXT CURE ALBUM WILL BE f*cking AMAZING... BUT TO GET TO f*cking AMAZING SOMETIMES TAKES A LITTLE MORE TIME...
"TOMORROW MUST BE MORE" INDEED
RSX
PS
RE: CURE LIVE SHOWS...
AS EVER: WHEN WE HAVE AGREED TO PLAY ANYWHERE - ANYWHERE! - WE WILL POST IT HERE... SO IF IT ISNT HERE... ITS WISHFUL THINKING!
Well, Robert, I don't care if you have done it before !!!!
I'd rather been listening to Disintegration part II than you trying to impress us and giving birth to some kind of monster like Wild Mood Swings (which contains some great songs 8))
WMS is not bad, simply different ...
About the new album, wait and see ... It's difficult to know how it will sound, but apparently no keyboards ...
i would really love it if they churned out a pop/rock album to the standard of the head on the door but, as much as i hate to say it, i think that theyre just too old to turn out a really great pop record like close to me or inbetween days. then again i thought cut here and just say yes were definetly good enough to break the charts even if they couldnt eventually.
I DONT BELIVE IT WILL BE OUT THIS YEAR
I THIK ROBERT SHOULD THINK A BIT ABOUT THE PLACE OF THE CURE IN TODAY'S MUSIC WORLD...
IF THEY WANT TO MAKE AN ALBUM FULL OF "US OR THEM" CRAP, I DONT THINK THAT'S TOO WISE!
BUT I SEE THEM PLAYING "SHIT" WITH KORN, SO...
Quote from: farquad92 on January 02, 2007, 10:11:13
i would really love it if they churned out a pop/rock album to the standard of the head on the door but, as much as i hate to say it, i think that theyre just too old to turn out a really great pop record like close to me or inbetween days. then again i thought cut here and just say yes were definetly good enough to break the charts even if they couldnt eventually.
I THINK "CUT HERE" AND "SIGNAL TO NOISE" SOUND IS THE SOUND THE BAND SHOULD TRY TO RECREATE AND DEVELOP!
I LOVED IT SO MUCH!
As always, the cure want to set a new level and a new page to their music style, but will also sound as the traditionally cure.
very huge step to do...
I hope the new album will really be in store by mid of this year.
vnvrum
we're all hoping for that :-D
ah, and...welcome :)
I love the sound of the new line-up on Festival 2005 and am really hoping for something as gritty, abrasive and then beautiful and melodic as Kiss Me Kiss Me Kiss Me.
yes,I hope in something as "kiss me kiss me kiss me", even if everything they'll do is ok for me! ;)
Good Good....it is what im waiting for...nu album... yEaH!!! Smith rocksss!!! :rocker
I hope we get word of when its really coming out soon.
Idc if what it sounds like, i love all of their albums.
getting kinda late for a may release with yet no word on it or anything, no?
I think if we dont see an announcment in the next couple of weeks then we can rule out a May release date :(
I'm waiting so hard for this new album!
it's late, but maybe i think we will know something more in the next weeks...
Quote from: [labyrinth] on February 12, 2007, 13:37:25
it's late, but maybe i think we will know something more in the next weeks...
very, very good! :smth023
Quote from: [labyrinth] on February 12, 2007, 13:37:25
it's late, but maybe i think we will know something more in the next weeks...
maybe something about...the tracks?
yes, at least if it is completed or not yet.... :smth001
i think a july release. havnt they said they wont be playing again before the summer after miami?
I THINK THERE WONT BE ANY SPECTACULAR NEWS SOON.
ALBUM WONT BE OUT THIS YEAR...
AT LEAST MY INTUITION SAIS SO!
ANYWAY, IS IT TIME FOR A NEW ALBUM?!
:-D
I think we'll get a clue about the progress of the new record if any songs from it are played in Miami.
yes, sky is grey. :rocker
i've heard that the new album's gonna b like 'ks me, ks me, ks me..'
correct?
i'm very hopeful for the next album, why?:
because the song more sad can be here...
because all the albums of the cure are differents but the same way of feeling...
because the new album is the way of feeling of robert smith now,and maybe of mine too...
with hope
I can´t wait!!!
:rocker
And it's a good new that will be keyboards in the songs... I missed Roger all the past concerts...
HEY, THATS ONLY MONTH AWAY!
HURRY GUYS!!!
:-D
:smth075
Quote from: Janko on April 24, 2007, 02:54:57
HEY, THATS ONLY MONTH AWAY!
HURRY GUYS!!!
:-D
yes i think the camping outside shops has started already - and surely for a good reason.
we must all hurry indeed!
(http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2006/12/WiiQueueST_228x149.jpg)
;)
:-D
OTHER CONFIRMED SHOWS...
5/29/2007 7:56:38 PM - by CURE:ROBERT
THE REASON WE CANT ANNOUNCE ALL THE OTHER SHOWS WE ARE PLAYING (SINGAPORE, HONG KONG, AUSTRALIA, NEW Z.............. AND ALL THE NORTH AND SOUTH AMERICAN AND EUROPEAN SHOWS WE HAVE LINED UP) IS WE ARE OBLIGED TO KEEP ALL DETAILS CONFIDENTIAL UNTIL THE DATE IS 100%... IT IS FRUSTRATING, AS WE ALREADY KNOW 99% EVERY SHOW WE ARE PLAYING BETWEEN NOW AND NEXT MARCH! BUT WE CAN ONLY ANNOUNCE THEM WHEN WE KNOW 100%... OTHERWISE IT WOULD BE PRETTY POINTLESS HAVING AN 'OFFICIAL' SITE FULL OF TRUTH... NOW WOULDNT IT!
ANYWAY
THE AUSTRALASIAN SHOWS SHOULD BE POSTED HERE WITHIN A WEEK
AND ON THE OTHER MORE IMPORTANT FRONT
THE DOUBLE ALBUM (HA? PLEASE YEAH!) NEARS COMPLETION...
AT ITS OWN PACE...
MUSIC MADE TO LIVE AND DIE TO
NOT SELL
MORE NEWS AS IT GETS MADE...
RSX
Quote from: ohhfushia on May 31, 2007, 02:22:11
OTHER CONFIRMED SHOWS...
5/29/2007 7:56:38 PM - by CURE:ROBERT
THE REASON WE CANT ANNOUNCE ALL THE OTHER SHOWS WE ARE PLAYING (SINGAPORE, HONG KONG, AUSTRALIA, NEW Z.............. AND ALL THE NORTH AND SOUTH AMERICAN AND EUROPEAN SHOWS WE HAVE LINED UP) IS WE ARE OBLIGED TO KEEP ALL DETAILS CONFIDENTIAL UNTIL THE DATE IS 100%... IT IS FRUSTRATING, AS WE ALREADY KNOW 99% EVERY SHOW WE ARE PLAYING BETWEEN NOW AND NEXT MARCH! BUT WE CAN ONLY ANNOUNCE THEM WHEN WE KNOW 100%... OTHERWISE IT WOULD BE PRETTY POINTLESS HAVING AN 'OFFICIAL' SITE FULL OF TRUTH... NOW WOULDNT IT!
ANYWAY
THE AUSTRALASIAN SHOWS SHOULD BE POSTED HERE WITHIN A WEEK
AND ON THE OTHER MORE IMPORTANT FRONT
THE DOUBLE ALBUM (HA? PLEASE YEAH!) NEARS COMPLETION...
AT ITS OWN PACE...
MUSIC MADE TO LIVE AND DIE TO
NOT SELL
MORE NEWS AS IT GETS MADE...
RSX
HEY!
:-D
Oh, man...
A double album!
A tour up until March!
Oh, man...
I'm so excited right now!
:smth023
im not getting my hopes up. they arent starting until august and then australia, new zealand, singapore and hong kong will take the rest of that before they want a break. maybe some usa dates november-december and then europe/uk (hopefully) febuary-march with a new album june, then festivals.
What exactly does "double album" mean nowadays? Every album since "Paris" was a double album, and even before that they had "Show", "Wish", "Mixed Up" and "Kiss Me" all released as double albums.
Are they going to release a double CD now? I hope it's worth it!
im always ouzzled when people moan about how they didnt have the balls to stand up to fiction and make wish a double album, kiss me was a double album and a perfect one; no filler. i dont think they have enough A grade material to make a double cd album
Quote from: farquad92 on June 03, 2007, 01:10:34
kiss me was a double album and a perfect one; no filler.
I beg to differ.
Hey You was utter tripe & The Perfect Girl wasn't much better, let's be honest here.
Kiss Me is probably my third least-favourite Cure album, actually, beating out Three Imaginary Boys and The Cure for the top spot.
It's got some greats (The Kiss, If Only Tonight, Like Cockatoos, Icing Sugar), and some bads (Hey You!!!, The Perfect Girl, Fight). But it is probably a testament to the greatness of the band that even that I consider their third worst album as better than the vast majority of others' works.
And I'd be willing to bet money that Robert doesn't mean double-vinyl when he talks about the new album being a double. I'm expecting something around 90 to 100 minutes.
Don't misunderstand me. KMKMKM is a great package (even greater when they re-mastered it).
Just seems to me that there are some lazy moments there & that's just my opinion.
I guess that by then, they had a huge fan base that expected to get some sugary pop, so they had to satisfy those folks too.
From my perspective, they are ideal opportunities to go & make a cup of tea or a quick sandwich ;)
I must say, that Fight is (IMHO) one of the better tracks over-all.
Quote from: Steve on June 03, 2007, 09:36:39
I beg to differ.
Hey You was utter tripe & The Perfect Girl wasn't much better, let's be honest here.
Hmmmm.... No no no no no no no no no I have to disagree old mate, the bouncing bassline, and sweet guitars both wah-wah and non wah-wah all give Hey You!!! a brightness and vibrance that clearly outshine the drab chant that is Fight... [I like the Brass too...] It's been so long that I refused to listen to Fight, that I can't remember when I last heard that awful track!!!
I have a duty to attend to right now, so I can't rant on about The Perfect Girl being better than Fight, but I have a similar train of thought for that too....
Quote from: Oso Blanco on June 03, 2007, 00:14:48
What exactly does "double album" mean nowadays? Every album since "Paris" was a double album, and even before that they had "Show", "Wish", "Mixed Up" and "Kiss Me" all released as double albums.
Are they going to release a double CD now? I hope it's worth it!
now that's a very good question - "double album" is a format referring particularly to vinyl, "double cd" would be a different thing altogether. hmm. maybe it's just that the ol' man is still thinking in terms of vinyl? (since he's so damn old :-P)
i dont think double album refers to vinyl in 2007.
and hey you is great :D
Quote from: farquad92 on June 03, 2007, 12:47:06
i dont think double album refers to vinyl in 2007.
surely not but i was just co-wondering what does it refer to then? i don't think the term 'double album' can be used the same way today as in the vinyl era: many old albums that used to be double albums actually ceased to be double albums in the days of CD format today, just like KMKMKM. so if RS says "double album" people shouldn't maybe straight up think of KMKMKM as a "model" and/or even faintly start expect something like it. it's just not the same concept anymore.
double albums today - meaning "double cds" - are there really such thing released today? there are certainly lots of 2 cd albums but often they are just albums with bonus discs etc. - but a real double cd release? of course it's perfectly possible to release something like it and maybe that's what RS really means there, but at least it's a huge task today...
so i also do hope it's worth it! (should we be scared huh?)
Quote from: farquad92 on June 03, 2007, 12:47:06
and hey you is great :D
hey you is a silly song, surely not a 'great' cure tune. but it has its place in their oeuvre... and it can be kind of fun sometimes. :smth023
(yet the extended version sucks . because it got extended... it's supposed to be a short little thing (like all songs like that) so it becomes stupid and completely pointless when extended beyond its "natural lifespan".)
I would suggest that by using the term "double-album" RS means a release that is longer [in time, not physical length in cm or inches :lol:] than that of a conventional 12" record [played at 33 1/3 RPM] but shorter than two of these same records - but that still fits on one standard 80 minute CD.
... Something along the lines of the Kiss Me record. They managed to get that onto one CD for the remaster but still it was 2 pieces of Old Black Stuff...
As Marika alluded, he probably still thinks in the "old ways", like a lot of people still do... I still call them records, even though most of the time, they're not...
Or then again maybe not. Maybe the reason the record's been delayed is that they're finishing up lots of tracks to give us 160 minutes [Use Your Illusion I/II anyone?] of guitar-laden songs that run the gamut of pure pop genuis all the way to gloomy "goth" rock [i think i ripped that off from a WMS pre-release sticker somewhere/sometime].....
oh sweet candy... let it be so....
And I must agree, there really is something not right about the extended remix of Hey You!!!.. I think it isn't as good as the original, it does extend what shouldn't be made longer....
Then thinking about it, which remixes are better than the originals?? hmmmmm.....???
Now THAT sounds like a thread of its own.
But Mr S must realise that a CD is classed as an album these days & so anything less than a dbl is going to disappoint right?
On the G&R reference. You must have been reading my mind their Javi ;)
I wouldn't even mind if the cure did the same thing.
On the subject of Hey You, the extended version is terrible. As Marika pointed out, it is a silly song & should be left short (as short as possible).
I might be being controversial when I criticise it, but I am not really a fan of this style of Cure song & feel that given the past greats they have turned out, Hey You is a little bit......embarrassing.
Note I didn't get stuck into WCIBY. Again a bit goofy really, but I don't want to start a war :-D
i agree about hey you needing to be left short.
if im talking about a bands album il often refer to it as "their record" but i think theres a difference between that and saying we've made a double album. i think it'll be about 120 minutes over 2 cd's
When Robert says double album im thinking probably 2 cds, about 45 mins on each maybe....
It would also explain the delay in getting it out
But it is possible, look at The Fragile by NIN. A double cd album that works really well...... if you think of it in those terms it sounds like a great idea! 8)
Quote from: japanesebaby on June 03, 2007, 13:27:55
Quote from: farquad92 on June 03, 2007, 12:47:06
i dont think double album refers to vinyl in 2007.
double albums today - meaning "double cds" - are there really such thing released today?
Aphex Twin - Drukqs
Ayreon - The Human Equation
Frank Black - Fast Man Raider Man
Kate Bush - Aerial
Red Hot Chili Peppers - Stadium Arcadium
...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_double_albums
The list takes into account both double CD and double LP releases, but they are noted as 2xLP / 2xCD.
Lots.
Quote from: Bloodflower on June 03, 2007, 19:31:34
Aphex Twin - Drukqs
Ayreon - The Human Equation
Frank Black - Fast Man Raider Man
Kate Bush - Aerial
Red Hot Chili Peppers - Stadium Arcadium
haha and i even have several of those mentioned above - so ok i must be totally demented, to ever ask "do they really exist?" hahaha ;P
anyway, i still don't think double album counts as the same today as it did in the old days. 2xLP is a different format/concept than 2xCD. so i'm still not sure whether he's talking about having enough material to form an oldfashioned double album or about a more modern 2xCD release. it's not the same thing. anyway, i'll rest my case!
(maybe it's just that i've grown almost completely uninterested and ignorant what RS says in advance. i don't really care what he says, if he's talking about "putting together" or "finishing" a double album. because it still doesn't mean he's going to release it - or maybe he will but anyway, maybe not. of course i'm interested and not at all ignorant of the future release as such, but i guess i just don't really trust that guy too much anymore... haha. anyway, we'll see then... once it's released. if it's released... :-P)
THEN AGAIN, I THINK THE BAND DOESNT HAVE IT ANY MORE TO MAKE DOUBLE ALBUM!
:smth011
They've taken plenty of time recording the new songs... I think the band has it in them to make this work very well.
And, honestly, even if this double album has some filler on it I think it's pretty damn good that they're going to give us this much new music. I was thinking the new album would be kind of like Bloodflowers (or even The Cure) where there are 8-11 tracks and the running time is just shy of 60mins. I am really happy about this development... :smth023
yeah I'd be happy with a sprawling epic of a double album -be it vynil and or cd...
What the double album means -- if nothing else -- is that Robert, Simon, and Porl think that the sessions have yielded enough high quality songs to merit a double-album. So, while I'm sure there'll be filler, there's also bound to be a number of classics.
After all, what's the difference between creating a double album out of the bulk of the sessions, and making a single album and having a lot of b-sides?
Wild Mood Swings, anyone?
WELL, I THINK THIS MIGHT BE THE TOUGHEST POINT IN THE BANDS CAREER...
AT LEAST SINCE 1993!
WHAT DO YOU THINK?
I think that they're going to have to prove themselves to a lot of people again, that's for sure. However, I do think that it's a good sign that Geffen is willing to bankroll an eight month world tour based on these sessions.
ROBERT MUST BE UNDER A TERRIBLE PRESSURE AT THE MOMENT!
THIS ALBUM MIGHT BE CRUCIAL FOR THE CURE.
ALSO, THE LABEL WILL MOST LIKELY INSIST ON A SUBSTANTIAL HIT SINGLE THIS TIME!
AND AS WE KNOW IT, THE BAND IS IN A STILL FAIRLY NEW LINEUP...
:?
Labels will (most likely) never demand a substantial hit single from bands like The Cure (and all the other bands who've been successfully soldiering on for more than 25 years) because sales of the new album as well as the peak in sales of the back catalog will go far enough that there is almost no risk to having these bands on their roster. In fact, as stupid as major label heads are, they'd have to be downright ignorant and simple to think that The Cure (or Depeche Mode, or Rolling Stones, or Paul McCartney, etc...) are going to have a monster hit. Most of what is super-popular today is disposable hip-hop, disposable pop, disposable emo and, for whatever reason, Maroon 5. It's just not happening for any artist that has been around that long - and if it did, everyone would be complaining, "Oh, they just copied Just Like Heaven AGAIN... boo whoo." No worries, with the lasting popularity/influence/recognition of The Cure they'll never have to worry about being dropped from a label. Their body of work insures them as a valuable asset to anyone lucky enough to have them on their roster.
gefen dont get anything from their fiction work i dont think...
its true though, the big hitters are there to sell albums not singles
Didn't Depeche Mode just have a huge hit with Precious?
Quote from: splitmilk34 on June 10, 2007, 13:59:07
Labels will (most likely) never demand a substantial hit single from bands like The Cure (and all the other bands who've been successfully soldiering on for more than 25 years) because sales of the new album as well as the peak in sales of the back catalog will go far enough that there is almost no risk to having these bands on their roster. In fact, as stupid as major label heads are, they'd have to be downright ignorant and simple to think that The Cure (or Depeche Mode, or Rolling Stones, or Paul McCartney, etc...) are going to have a monster hit. Most of what is super-popular today is disposable hip-hop, disposable pop, disposable emo and, for whatever reason, Maroon 5. It's just not happening for any artist that has been around that long - and if it did, everyone would be complaining, "Oh, they just copied Just Like Heaven AGAIN... boo whoo." No worries, with the lasting popularity/influence/recognition of The Cure they'll never have to worry about being dropped from a label. Their body of work insures them as a valuable asset to anyone lucky enough to have them on their roster.
WELL, THEY CAN MAKE JUST ANOTHER AVERAGE ALBUM BUT THEY WILL GET ZERO PROMOTION AND ZERO SUPPORT FROM THE LABEL...
I DONT EXPECT A MONSTER HITS, I JUST WANT MORE
VISIBILITY FOR THEM!
AND ALSO, I WOULDNT LIKE THE CURE TO LIVE LIKE ROLLING STONES (ENDLESS TOURING DESPITE NOT HAVING A GREAT ALBUM FOR ALMOST 30 YEARS)!
Quote from: Janko on June 11, 2007, 06:31:23
WELL, THEY CAN MAKE JUST ANOTHER AVERAGE ALBUM BUT THEY WILL GET ZERO PROMOTION AND ZERO SUPPORT FROM THE LABEL...
I DONT EXPECT A MONSTER HITS, I JUST WANT MORE VISIBILITY FOR THEM!
AND ALSO, I WOULDNT LIKE THE CURE TO LIVE LIKE ROLLING STONES (ENDLESS TOURING DESPITE NOT HAVING A GREAT ALBUM FOR ALMOST 30 YEARS)!
I don't want to see them go down that road either, but the fact of the matter is The Cure don't make the type of music that will be a huge hit and give them a lot of visibility. They never really have been that type of band, nor has Robert wanted to be that type of band. The reason why The Cure won't end up like a Rolling Stones is that there is more music in Robert's repertoire than there is in Mick's & Keith's. The Cure have always made albums that are wildly different from one another (and also mostly different than whatever the current landscape of popular music is) while the Stones have been recycling the same 3 blues progressions over and over again. Their music is dreadfully uninteresting and it's their "hits" that make them such a huge touring act... they don't even play a lot of their new songs. Whereas at Curiousa, The Cure played A TON of the new material and, I think, it translated very well live. My point is, I wouldn't go into defeatist mode just yet. Let's see what the new album has to offer rather than speculate how much Robert has lost it...
Here in the US, Precious was hardly a "monster hit". Bigger than anything from Exciter maybe, but that's about it. Maybe light rotation on some of the more diverse "alternative" stations. I'd say that End of the World was bigger when it was released in 2004.
I'm out in California, and Precious was on the radio all the time in my city. The video was in fairly heavy rotation, too, on MTV and those other BS channels; or maybe Precious wasn't in heavy-rotation anywhere in the US, and I just had the fortune of always happening to turn on the radio/TV/etc. as it was about to come on....
Anyway, it was number four in the UK. Anything in the top five is a megahit, as far as I'm concerned.
here in italy,too
Precious was a huge HIT ,
it was on MTV almost once a hour...
Well, I am in the midwest (Cincinnati) which probably makes a difference, but I have XM Radio and heard it rarely on there.
PRECIOUS WAS A HUGE HIT!
NO DOUBT ABOUT IT!
:smth023
DM ARE STILL HUGE!
:smth020
when will this album b released @ last???????????????
I would suggest that the reason that it's taken so long to get this record out is that Robert and Co. are busying themselves with other The Cure releases such as the next batch of Remasters, the DVD boxed set and of course the new record.. I hope that they will release all of this stuff before heading out on tour - actually i crave the new record more than anything else. I would be very disappointed if when they play in my home town [soon yay!!!!] that they bash out some new tracks and that i won't know the songs and therefore wouldn't be able to fully appreciate them like i would had i heard them for a bit before hearing them live....
You'll just have to record the gig then Javi & learn the new songs before the LP comes out ;)
Of course, you could also share the recording so that we can also learn the new songs :D
I hope that the time they are taking, they are using to maximum effect. If it is on the next batch of re-masters, then great. Looking forward to a hi resolution release of Disintegration (DVDA or SACD, although I prefer the latter).
Until then, I guess I just need to be patient, but having said that, being a Sisters fan, I must have the patience of a saint :roll:
HA HA HA
I SUGGEST THAT WE START A TOPIC "NEW ALBUM OUT BY THE END OF THE YEAR. WE HOPE."
:-D
This is good! Sort of. Keeping fans constantly on needles and then just one day release the new album without announcement :-D
FROM CHAIN OF FLOWERS:
Update (06-30-07) - Album delayed again until late Oct. or Nov. Might be a "limited edition" double
:smth011
2008 IT WILL BE!
if that's the case then that's really fked.
so most of us won't have a chance to listen to the new songs on record before hearing them live... that's poor form..
what exactly is the point of touring all around the world, coming to australia after 7 years and not having the fans know the new songs..
i sincerely hope that this is not going to be the case!!
well,
in 2004 they were in Italy before the album was released... (Imola and Naples)
and i recognized the songs only for their lyrics (and for their performance of Lost, Before Three and The Promise previously played) ...but that was interesting...
i really enjoyed the fact i didn't know some songs...that was fun :smth001
the only thing i'm worried about is...why are they so "slow" at this time ? we'll see...
however if the album should be out in october or november, in september there will be a single out...and that will be something...at least...
WELL, IF THE ALBUM COMES THIS YEAR IT WILL STILL BE A YEAR TOO EARLY!
:-D
or maybe we should have 2 w8 till robert's next b-day
haha
OR, MAYBE THEY SHOULD SCRAP EVERYTHING AND GO BACK TO STUDIO MIRAVAL IN FRANCE IF IT'S STILL THERE...
:-D
Quote from: Janko on July 03, 2007, 12:09:19
OR, MAYBE THEY SHOULD SCRAP EVERYTHING AND GO BACK TO STUDIO MIRAVAL IN FRANCE IF IT'S STILL THERE...
:-D
i'm afraid they might just get stuck drinking wine all the time (like they almost did last time) and then forget why they were there in the first place...
maybe they'd need a babysitter again, to get something done....? ;)
Before this announcement it was scheduled for an early Oct release, so this is what, a three week delay? Big deal.
Quote from: rodney on July 03, 2007, 14:21:10
Before this announcement it was scheduled for an early Oct release, so this is what, a three week delay? Big deal.
the point is that it gets delayed all the time !!
SOUTH OF FRANCE IN SUMMER...
MAYBE A NEW "JUST LIKE HEAVEN" ...
:rocker
Quote from: Janko on July 04, 2007, 16:25:16
SOUTH OF FRANCE IN SUMMER...
MAYBE A NEW "JUST LIKE HEAVEN" ...
:rocker
*whines* But they've already
recorded Taking Off!
My friend recieved the following email from Universal Music NZ:
11th July 2007 FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
The Cure Seeing Double On 13th Studio Album
Set For A Spring Release
Would one expect anything less than a double album from The Cure on the occasion of its 13th studio release? "Rather than cut it down, at the stage we're at with the band, I'm making this record because I want to enjoy the process and be proud of the finished result," frontman Robert Smith tells Billboard of the as-yet-untitled effort, due in October via Suretone/Geffen. "It isn't a commercial concern for me."
"What will probably happen is that a double album will come out like a limited edition, mixed by me," he continues. "A single-disc version, which I assume will be primarily chosen by the label, might get mixed by someone else in order to have a different thing. There's a concern Cure fans will feel like they have to get both, but the fact is, I've agreed to sell the double version at a single album price, because I feel that strongly about it. It is almost impossible to get a double album nowadays. I naively thought my standing as an artist would push aside all objections, but the world gets ever more commercial as it turns."
Tracks due to make the cut include "Lusting Here in Your Mind" ("It sounds suspiciously like heavy rock to me," Smith says), "The Hungry Ghost," "The Perfect Boy," "Christmas Without You" ("That's not a very happy song," he says) and "Please Come Home."
"There are songs about relationships, the material world, politics and religion. They're very upfront and dynamic," says Smith of the new songs. "People will be surprised how stripped-down and in-your-face the record is."
Smith also trolled through his massive catalogue of demos and found three pieces dating back to the '80s that the band revamped. "They've changed quite a lot, but the basic melody and chord structure has remained," he says. "They do have a certain old Cure-ness about them."
As usual, Smith slaved over the lyrics, contributing to a delay in completing the project. "I've gone through so many revisions, probably more than all of the other records put together," he says. "I just wanted to get the tone right to reflect how I am at the age I'm at."
Smith promises The Cure will play new material during its world tour, but not too much. "A lot of people who come to Cure shows want to hear something they haven't heard before, but they also want to hear old songs," he offers. "I enjoy playing them. But the idea of going out and doing a two-and-a-half hour show and including 10 or 12 new songs would actually be really awful, I think. A show is an experience. Anyone coming to a Cure show isn't going to go home and think about buying the album. They've already made their minds up by the fact they've bought a ticket to see us."
The Cure play Auckland at the Vector Arena, Tuesday August 14th
Hopefully some new songs on tour and album not far afterwards (depending on which Spring they mean!). I think I will have to try and record the show after all....
that's awesome news..
maybe,
we'll have some news about the album in the month between the end of the australian leg of the tour and the start of the north-american one.
The new album artwork ...
(http://justlikecure.free.fr/Images/413.jpg)
hmm
i still hope it isn't ! :-D
Quote from: [labyrinth] on August 05, 2007, 17:15:11
hmm
i still hope it isn't ! :-D
No kidding! I seriosuly don't think I could buy an album with that picture of Jason it it. The thought of having that picture in my home creeps me out. 4:13 may be the first Cure album I just download through Rhapsody.
edit: Well, of course I'll buy the album because I fully supposrt The Cure. I'll just photoshop a picture of Boris over Jason's mug and hidious hair
but,
apart from Jason and stuff like that...
the cover would be really "meaningless" ... i mean, yes it is a picture of the moment and the lineup (of this era) but, it has not anything to deal with cover ART... it could be just a promo pic...
and of course i'll buy the album...but i would prefer a better cover,you know... i even liked the "bloodflowers" one.
anyway, is not the cover the important part of an album,isn't it? (even if i think it has such an important role in an album) so, if it will be this one or another one..let's hope for some NEW-REALLY-GOOD music :)
So 4:13, as in 4th decade, 13th album?
4-piece group doing the 13th album with 13 songs (single version) or 26 songs (13 * 2 in the double version)
4:13 as in its April 13th, 2009 release date!
But no, I think it's probably 4 members (ala 4tour, etc), 13th album.
I like the cover and the title, too...nothing original, but nice! ;)
To be honest, I really don't care very much about the name or the picture...all I want is a great album with very very very amazing songs!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :-D
well,
the title is kinda acceptable...
but the "ipotetic" cover is horrible :-D :-D
Quote from: [labyrinth] on August 07, 2007, 00:38:06
but the "ipotetic" cover is horrible :-D :-D
It reminds me of a boyband's album cover, ahahah!!!!! :lol:
Is this really the new album cover??? It looks a little bit simple.
It's not the artwork i'm used by the band.
So in the end let's wait and see what the album cover will look like when they will release the CD. :)
For me the most important thing is the music on the CD.
And in this case the music will be great!!!